How do collectors feel about re-releases?

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Interested in getting a second opinion on this... not re-prints, like Gamequestdirect stuff, but actual re-releases. Here's an example:

For a long time, Megaman X2 and X3 were hard to find on the SNES, and fetched a good amount. Anyone who had them in their collection, well hey, that was a shining jewel in someone's cap. Now the Megaman X Collection came out, it dosen't seem like out the value, but it just made it kind of redundant to pay the extra money for it on SNES when all 6 X games are available for 1/2 the cost.

Using a personal example, I had Megaman 1 - 6 complete for the NES for a long time... I was pretty proud of getting them all with all their original materials. However, Megaman Anniversary Collection came out for a fraction of the cost it took to get the games complete back in the day.

It seems more companies are digging into their back catalog, and it seems the Wii virtual console, if it really catches on, will be a very quick and cheap way to grab alot of the "hard to find" retro games if companies decide to list them... I'm just curious on what collector's thoughts are on these?

Right now I'm thinking it's completely pointless for me to keep Megaman 1 - 6 on the NES, espically since Megaman Anniverary has 1 - 8 all on one conveinent DVD.

It seems the new trend is taking what's old and making it new again. It makes alot of classics accessible, but at what cost to "collections"?
 
I have no problem with re-releases, it's reprints that piss me off. Sure, a re-release may have a small efect on a game's value, but it's nowhere near the effect that a reprint has. Mainly, my problem with reprints is that they compromise the integrity of the orginal, genuine product. Re-releases give players everywhere a chance to play great games without kicking owners of the original material in the balls.
 
A lot of the pride in having collections is actually owning the stuff. Roms of MM1-6 have been free and accessible for much longer than MMAC has been around, but did that lessen it any? Keep them, MM1-6 are great games, and you're doing them an honor by keeping them mint and complete. I'd rather have the complete NES versions over MMAC any day of the week.

Ebay value may go down with re-releases, but your collector's pride shouldn't be linked to the highest bid.
 
It really doesn't matter to me. If more people get to play a game, that's great. We need the industry to grow. However, it would be nice if game publishers did something similar to what book publishers do and print an edition number. First editions would obviously hold their value better than third or fourth editions - that would keep the collectors' market a little happier.
 
It depends, as far as I'm concerned.
Examples:
1. I had both the original Castlevania GBA games, but sold them on Ebay the second I heard of the double-game cartridge re-release before the values dropped. Why? Because I knew that if I ever wanted to replay those games, I could just buy the rerelease for cheap.
2. My megaman carts are here to stay, regardless of the collections on disc.

Why the difference? Simple - the controller. The Castlevania games can be replayed in the same format (and button configs) that they were originally intended. The Megaman collection disc however, can't be played with NES/SNES cons...and that makes all the difference to me, especially since they cocked up the button setup on the GC version of the MM collection.

So, to me, it varies from case to case.

/my 2 cents
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Exactly. If you enjoy the games then why let the market value of them detract you from that enjoyment.[/QUOTE]

It's not really market value, it's more or less like if Konami decided to re-release Suikoden 2 on a PS2 disc at a budget price, the price of it on PS One might not drop but the worth of it might.

It wouldn't be the prized gem in many collections that it was, since only the hardcore or the insane would still buy it on PS1 at an inflated cost of the same exact thing was available on a newer system.

It's kind of an extreme example, but you can see where I'm coming from. Sure, having Megaman 1 - 6 is great on NES is great, but you know how many times I play those copies over the PS2 ones? Zero.

I mean, I can easily sell half my collection I think and still keep the games I want to play on the different formats, and it would still be enjoyable.... it's the point of all these threads, it's difficult to really make that big step that someone like TSD made.

Plus, I could still just rebuy them cart only, but the importance of manuals / boxes is a different thread I plan on making... it's interesting getting a bunch of collectors opinions.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']I have no problem with re-releases, it's reprints that piss me off. Sure, a re-release may have a small efect on a game's value, but it's nowhere near the effect that a reprint has. Mainly, my problem with reprints is that they compromise the integrity of the orginal, genuine product. Re-releases give players everywhere a chance to play great games without kicking owners of the original material in the balls.[/quote]

Compromises the integrity... Its not like they're making it have sex with a minor transvestite prostitute. THATS compromising integrity.

I wouldn't care about Suikoden 2 getting reprinted, but then I only paid $13 for it on clearance when it was brand new.

I have MMAC and I'm still trying to get the original NES games. I like just having the original. I'm not going to pay a shit load for it though.
 
[quote name='Kayden']...Its not like they're making it have sex with a minor transvestite prostitute.... [/QUOTE]
Well, we can't say that we know that for sure.
 
Re-releases don't bug me but reprints bug me when they come out brand new at a price that is a lot less than what I paid for my copy just so I could play it.
 
I don't understand the point of collecting anything so I say that if there is a reprint or a re-release then the game must be pretty good and the more people that have the opportunity to play the game the better.
 
im mostly no longer a collector cause there is just so much stuff that can happen to games. I just popped in a Sega cd game the other day and its not loading up anymore. And after last summer mishap (my cousin step on and broke shining force cd for the sega cd) . I mostly no longer hold on to any games that fetch 100 + anymore

i used to have at least 6 games that fetch 100+ but now i only own 2


Panzer dragoon saga Saturn -- what i should of sold off long ago since the price is crashing

valk profile- though i should sell it off
 
[quote name='vietgurl']Re-releases don't bug me but reprints bug me when they come out brand new at a price that is a lot less than what I paid for my copy just so I could play it.[/QUOTE]

I really don't understand you (and the others with a similar opinion). It sounds like the problem is you envy other people, which you don't even know, because they got a better deal. Well, progress is progress. Most of the technology available today was either not around or much more expensive 10 years ago - so what? What are you going to do when media becomes fully digital and is always offered for sale? None of this makes sense.
 
I like collections... how could I not want to have an entire series (like MMX) bundled with some extras thrown in? As for it making part of my collection worthless... yeah, I suppose that's an issue, but I don't really care that much since this not only provides me with an opportunity to have a bunch of games in one place, but it won't really dent my collection since there's still so many games that will never recieve re-releases.
 
Re-releases are cool with me. I like old favorites readily available on newer consoles as backup or to play with friends. I must have bought Street Fighter and Mega Man releases more than anything else.
 
Rereleases are fine by me. I like owning the original much more then the rerelease. That is what makes a person a collector after all.

I really like playing the game on the original system as well, makes for a much more authentic experience.
 
One thing about games I like is how the game feels when played on the original system vs a new one.

When I play a game on the NES, I expect to play like a NES game. When I play a NES game on the PS2, I expect it to play just like a NES game.

I don't know how to explain it, but I couldn't stand Mega Man AC on the GC or PS2... I found it frustrating. But when I played it on the NES, I enjoyed it plenty.
 
I dont mind. The fact that you own the ORIGIONAL version is very satisfying. Think of it in a different way. Let just say you like swords, and you have a Hitori Honzo from 100 years ago, but just now they decide to remake them, but there is a difference in the durability. You're sword is still worth more than the re-release.
 
What's the difference between reprints and re-releases? I know reprints are just another batch of printing of the exact same game and same packaging (perhaps without bonus such as a soundtrack CD). What about re-releases? re-released on another console system or something?
 
[quote name='eau']What's the difference between reprints and re-releases? I know reprints are just another batch of printing of the exact same game and same packaging (perhaps without bonus such as a soundtrack CD). What about re-releases? re-released on another console system or something?[/QUOTE]
Re-release is when they release a game on anther console years later. Final Fantasy Anthologies would be considered a Re release.
 
[quote name='secretvampire']You are smoking crack. I sold my extra copy for $170 on Ebay a week or so ago. I can't remember it ever being higher.[/QUOTE]

your lucky then

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most are going under 150 now hell one only got 100. I put the one i got (opened but never played - just opened to make sure all 4 disc were in the box cause the box seemed very lite. with starting bids of 125-140 and never got a single bid on ebay

same with shining force 3 (used to fetch around 100+ -- now 90
 
I dont mind rereleases for newer consoles at all. I love collection/compilation discs. Reprints Im okay with if they differentiate the reprint in some way. Greatest hits packaging is one way, but as long as there is some way to tell a day one release from a reprint, Im fine with it.

Reprints with differences are ideal, because they let gamers who missed out on the game originally, enjoy playing the game for a reasonable price, while still preserving the collectibility and value of the original release.

What I dont like are the GQD reprints that once opened, are indistinguishable from the original game.

When I collect games, I collect them for a specific system. It doesnt matter to me if the games have been rereleased for a newer system as a collection. If I collect NES stuff, I want those Megaman games, wether or not I have the MMAC for my GC or PS2. The fact that I have that collection disc may affect how much Im willing to pay to aquire those older versions, but I still want them.

And if there are any enhancements, changes, or additions made to later releases of the game, then the original version still has value to me, cos its different.

If Im sitting around with a friend and waxing nostalgic about how great the dreamcast was, I want to be able to pull out my DC and play those great games for it. I dont want to say 'Oh yeah Crazy Taxi was great, lets play it on the PS2, and MvC2 was great, let me bust out my xbox.'

Its almost as if I view different consoles as existing in a vacuum. I want the great games for each console I own.
 
give everyone the same opporunity... its capitalism its like saying only selling a movie at 14.99 and the price not to drop... game compaines need to stay in business and the only way is to remake games to fund the new games... same thing with the ipod... but hey its life.. do i get mad everytime my computer drops in value... yes but i appericate the time i get out of it..
 
[quote name='Puffa469']
If Im sitting around with a friend and waxing nostalgic about how great the dreamcast was, I want to be able to pull out my DC and play those great games for it. I dont want to say 'Oh yeah Crazy Taxi was great, lets play it on the PS2, and MvC2 was great, let me bust out my xbox.'

Its almost as if I view different consoles as existing in a vacuum. I want the great games for each console I own.[/QUOTE]

To me, this makes no sense. If a game is ported, but the port is perfect, who cares what console it originates on?

How many Metal Gear fans are saying "Oh, Metal Gear is awesome, let me bust out my MSX and play it". Or if you want to go to extremes "Hey, Street Fighter 2 is awesome, let's go crowd around the arcade unit".

I guess for me, I'll take the system that is the most conveinent if the game is exactly the same. If I feel like playing some Ikaruga, I'm going to pop it in the Gamecube, not bust out the DC and hook it up for one game. If I want some Tales of Destiny 2, I will get the highly more accessible, much cheaper, but otherwise still the same PSP port.

Speaking about games that went up in price, Dragon Force has gotten insanely high lately, or maybe I'm just not remembering how much it did go for. It kind of makes me wish they'd bring out the Sega Ages PS2 port over here, because I really don't want to spend 70 - 100 on it.
 
There are two types of video game collectors (in my experience).

- Those who take pride in finding/having cool things that very few others have

- Those who take pride in having all the cool games, but could care less if everybody else has them also.

The first group dislikes reprints, while the second group could care less. Either group generally dislikes/resents the other group and is generally outspoken and often hateful about it (Case in point, the post directly above this one). Some might say it is a larger idealistic battle between people who think the best things in life are those that you work for vs. people who think all good things should be readily available to anyone and everyone who wants them. Personally, I like the thrill and excitement of the treasure hunt and it's frustrating when someone mass-produces the treasure I spent 3 years looking for - but at the same time I can tell you 100% if I owned the rights to Final Fantasy XYZ and had the opportunity to reprint it and make an extra $200,000 next year I'd be neck-deep in Final Fantasy reprints so I don't blame the companies for doing it, I'm just disappointed when they do.

People fuss over the dollar values of their collections, but my theory is that while the money does hold some weight, it moreso provides an indicator of the intrinsic value of the collection. So when people fuss that said game "used to be worth $100+ and is now only worth $20", the monetary value is really just a measure of how the reprint devalued their collection rather than how much money they "lost". In other words, they are really saying "My collection is now a lot less cool/unique than it was before, and it's GQD's fault!"
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Collectors? fuck 'em.[/QUOTE]
:applause: If you want to invest your money try the stock market. Leave gaming to gamers not collectors. Re-releases and reprints are great for gamers, fuck the collectors.
 
A lot of you guys have the misconception that collecting is about the monetary value. It all depends on what you're collecting. If you're a game collector then having the games is the point and the monetary value shouldn't mean anything.

The guy with the Panzer Dragoon. If you're a game collector then you still have the game so why should you be mad that it's not fetching the same price? But the thing is that you held onto it not because you wanted it but you thought it would be worth even more - that's a speculator.
 
I don't mind collecting to an extent...I'll buy Maximo 2 not having played the first, thinking whenever I get to the first game I'll probably like to play the second. But I do not buy any game I don't eventually plan on playing.

Thankfully there are only a few games left in the current generation and that's going away pretty fast. Next month Valykre Profile is out on PSP, so people who want to play the game will finally have a chance to without paying more then a Playstation 2. With $600 consoles a reality paying these kinds of prices for such old games needs to stop, it isn't going to help the industry.
 
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