How do you feel about the urbanization of video games?

Scrubking

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And how far do you think it will go?

- NBA Ballers
- Def Jam Vendetta 1 & 2
- Snoop in True Crime, etc

If these kind of games sell well, how would you feel about the industry making more and more games with an urban flava?
 
[quote name='Scrubking']And how far do you think it will go?

- NBA Ballers
- Def Jam Vendetta 1 & 2
- Snoop in True Crime, etc

If these kind of games sell well, how would you feel about the industry making more and more games with an urban flava?[/quote]

I dunno about the others, but I didn't buy Def Jam cos of the "urban flava." I bought it because it was a decently reviewed game on my favorite wrestling/fighting engine.
 
*cough*NBA Street vol1/2, NBA Ballers, NFL Street*cough* lol anywayz

i believe they're just wantin to try something new. Alot of people like sports games, but dont like playing by the rules all the time. In my opinion, NFL Blitz started it all.
 
[quote name='Cracka']*cough*NBA Street vol1/2, NBA Ballers, NFL Street*cough* lol anywayz

i believe they're just wantin to try something new. Alot of people like sports games, but dont like playing by the rules all the time. In my opinion, NFL Blitz started it all.[/quote]

LOL what about NBA Jam?
 
Hip Hop artists seem to want to make money off anything they can. They have clothing lines, energy drinks, cars, video games, oh and music. Many people, mainly males 14-26 or so consider owning anything with a rappers name on it makes them more "gangsta". As long as the game is actually a pretty solid one, like DJV, then I really don't mind too much. As long as Snoop Dog's idea for a game isn't created, which was people who could turn into pit bulls, who could turn into pimps, I think we're safe.
 
its called being an entrepreneure?.... lmao i just violated the spelling of that word... but i'm hoping yall get what i was aimin at.
 
I want to smack the mofo that put all those rap songs in Tiger Woods 2004.

I am only against "urbanization" of games when it goes contrary to the theme of the game.

True Crime: fine
NBA Street: fine
Tiger Woods: FREAKING NO
 
What rap songs could you do with golf?

Grab your clubs when you see Tiger
Call the press when you see Tiger, Uhh
Who beat me,
But, your punks didn't finish
Now, you 'bout to feel the wrath of a golfer
ni**a, I putt 'em up
 
[quote name='Scrubking']And how far do you think it will go?

- NBA Ballers
- Def Jam Vendetta 1 & 2
- Snoop in True Crime, etc

If these kind of games sell well, how would you feel about the industry making more and more games with an urban flava?[/quote]

I think it will set back the spelling standards of the nation back about 100 years;-)
 
Sometimes I think its rediculous to put the type of hardcore tap they do on games like Madden. The game is E rated, but the songs are nasty. I think it would be great if they let you set it up from the get go to which type of soundtrack you wanted, weather it be Hiphop, Rock, Pop, or instrumental.
I hate having to go in and delete the songs I dont want to keep hearing over and over(Killa Mike for instance).
 
[quote name='superstevedogg']Sometimes I think its rediculous to put the type of hardcore tap they do on games like Madden. The game is E rated, but the songs are nasty. I think it would be great if they let you set it up from the get go to which type of soundtrack you wanted, weather it be Hiphop, Rock, Pop, or instrumental.
I hate having to go in and delete the songs I dont want to keep hearing over and over(Killa Mike for instance).[/quote]

Custom sound tracks on the xbox! Not sure if its on madden though. Thats what sells! Thats why they do it.
 
[quote name='ElwoodCuse']
I am only against "urbanization" of games when it goes contrary to the theme of the game.
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I agree.

And you can't really say there's an "urbanization" of games. It's not like hip hop or whatever you consider "urban" is in every single video game coming out. And it's not like the games are made just for the urban market, it's a representation of what really happens. I mean would you want to see a street ball game with a bunch of preppy kids with sweaters? NO, becasuse that's not the crowd that are "street ballers". And I know when I was playing NBA Street, I didn't want to hear some rock and roll music or something like that, it just doesn' fit. And True Crime is a game based in South Central LA, I don't know what you've heard, but I don't think there are many "non-urban" people just chillin there. And lastly, there aren't that many "urban" games, as you may label them, on the market.
 
To answer Scrubking's original question, "How far do you think it will go?", I'd say that we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg now. So much of today's youth culture is urbanized, that it's influence in videogaming is bound to increase.

For me, being a crotchety 140 year old man (see picture) this is not good news, everyone. I understand it, but I don't have to like it.
 
[quote name='Danimal']
For me, being a crotchety 140 year old man (see picture) this is not good news, everyone. I understand it, but I don't have to like it.[/quote]

I"m not necessarily saying it's good, but I would like to know why you don't think it's a good thing.
 
Well, although the term "urbanization of video games" is questionable, I would consider any change in video game presentation and creation is perhaps representative of its consumers likes and desires. Sometimes a game will emerge that alters the definition of what a video game is, thereby pushing the boundaries. Change is good because, in my opinion, Video Games can be seen as an emerging art-form, and art needs to constantly push through to new boundaries.
Peace, Love, and SOUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
[quote name='PapiChullo'][quote name='Danimal']
For me, being a crotchety 140 year old man (see picture) this is not good news, everyone. I understand it, but I don't have to like it.[/quote]

I"m not necessarily saying it's good, but I would like to know why you don't think it's a good thing.[/quote]

It's just not my taste, Papi, that's all. I don't like rap, and anything "urban" usually means rap culture. I can put up with it (barely) in Madden, but I just had no interest in DJV, no matter how good the reviews were. For anyone who loved the game, or loves rap, I'm not trying to put it down, I'm just saying it's not for me personally.
 
I see, I thought you were saying that "urban" culture was a bad thing in general. But now I understand, it's more of a personal thing. Good stuff. :D
 
[quote name='PapiChullo']I see, I thought you were saying that "urban" culture was a bad thing in general. [/quote]

How can gangstas, bitches, hoes, ebonics, forties, weed and caps in people's asses be good?
 
[quote name='Scrubking'][quote name='PapiChullo']I see, I thought you were saying that "urban" culture was a bad thing in general. [/quote]

How can gangstas, bitches, hoes, ebonics, forties, weed and caps in people's asses be good?[/quote]

Because not everyone in this so called "urban" culture is a gangsta, bitch, or hoe. (And there is nothing wrong with 40s by the way, especially for broke college kids :D) And there are just as many gangs, bitches, hoes, and a ton of drugs among the most suburban of the suburban people. So it's dumb to just generalize an entire "culture", I guess, based on how the media depicts it.
 
So it's dumb to just generalize an entire "culture", I guess, based on how the media depicts it.
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And how exactly do you know what my opinion is based on? Oh, you don't. You're just making stupid assumptions.

And yes, a culture that promotes gangstas and the rest of it is bad imo. Not everyone from that culture is bad, but that culture's idealogy is.
 
It's funny that you mention Madden because every time I load it up this damn rock and roll song comes up. I don't even know what the song's called, I just tune out the guy screaming.

Hell, I'll play the devil's advocate. I think the real issue here is black/ African-American culture and the fear of its growing acceptance into mainstream society.

Its all fine and well when you can watch it on BET, Bernie Mac or Chappelle, but turn off the TV and its gone. But now we're seeing it in other medium that aren't so easily turned off, and now it seems cause for alarm.

When it comes down to it though there is no cause. I don't think there is any 'urbanization' at all. It just so happens that the market for urban games -- crime sims, basketball/football, etc. is just getting more exposure. The majority of games coming out are standard RPGs/ action/ adventure and the like that aren't even set on Earth or in the same time period as urban culture.

If it is in fact the tip of the iceberg, and every other game made has some 'flava', then vote with your dollars and don't buy the game. If its just the soundtrack you don't like, turn off the music. If its the urban concept of the game you don't like, then just buy a different game. That was my random 2 cents.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']
So it's dumb to just generalize an entire "culture", I guess, based on how the media depicts it.
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And how exactly do you know what my opinion is based on? Oh, you don't. You're just making stupid assumptions.

And yes, a culture that promotes gangstas and the rest of it is bad imo. Not everyone from that culture is bad, but that culture's idealogy is.[/quote]

Ok, so what is your opinion based on? And I don't think the ideology of the "urban" culture is to promote those things. It's all about, "This is where I've been and what I've been through", made into the music, which I guess created the "culture".
 
[quote name='Scrubking']
And yes, a culture that promotes gangstas and the rest of it is bad imo. Not everyone from that culture is bad, but that culture's idealogy is.[/quote]

I agree. Let's see...the answer is Sopranos, Sex in the City and the Beatles.

What are a few examples of the promotion of 'gangsters', hoes/bitches and recreational drug use idolized by mainstream society. Not everyone in the culture is bad but the ideology is.
 
[quote name='PapiChullo']So are you saying Black culture is bad????[/quote]

No I'm not. I never said anything was bad. I just said that this could have something to do with some people having issue with that specific culture gaining acceptance. That is not African-American culture; just so happens people might perceive it to be from the music and such, calling it 'urbanization'.
 
[quote name='PapiChullo'][quote name='Scrubking']
So it's dumb to just generalize an entire "culture", I guess, based on how the media depicts it.
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And how exactly do you know what my opinion is based on? Oh, you don't. You're just making stupid assumptions.

And yes, a culture that promotes gangstas and the rest of it is bad imo. Not everyone from that culture is bad, but that culture's idealogy is.[/quote]

Ok, so what is your opinion based on? And I don't think the ideology of the "urban" culture is to promote those things. It's all about, "This is where I've been and what I've been through", made into the music, which I guess created the "culture".[/quote]

The fact is most rap songs are not neutral in their so called explanation of their life - just the fact that they make videos and the like glorifies all of the bad stuff they are supposedly just singing about. It is one thing to sing about gangs and how bad they are and another to sing about how you are a badass cause you used to cap people while in a gang.
 
[quote name='magilacudy'][quote name='PapiChullo']So are you saying Black culture is bad????[/quote]

No I'm not. I never said anything was bad. I just said that this could have something to do with some people having issue with that specific culture gaining acceptance. That is not African-American culture; just so happens people might perceive it to be from the music and such, calling it 'urbanization'.[/quote]

[quote name='Scrubking']Black culture and rap culture are 2 different things.[/quote]

No, I was talking about that. I thought that he was responding to my post.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky'][quote name='Scrubking']And how far do you think it will go?

- NBA Ballers
- Def Jam Vendetta 1 & 2
- Snoop in True Crime, etc

If these kind of games sell well, how would you feel about the industry making more and more games with an urban flava?[/quote]

I dunno about the others, but I didn't buy Def Jam cos of the "urban flava." I bought it because it was a decently reviewed game on my favorite wrestling/fighting engine.[/quote]
Hey, So Im not alone.
 
My favorite "Urbanization" has to be Urban Chaos. They were probably sitting in a room somewhere and somebody goes, "I got it. Let's make a Tomb Raider in a city setting and make the main character a black chick." Sounds like a license to print money to me. I actually like Def Jam, but EA does need to chill out with the music. I can maybe understand basketball, but baseball and hockey?
 
i dont mind it if it fits with it, its fine in sports games, but all they do is play shit rap that you can hear anywhere, play some roots or j5 or something! the best rap music ive heard in a game so far is on thug, theres some really good songs on that.

p.s. true crime and def jam just sucked gameplay wise (which was shocking for defjam) so i wouldnt use them as examples of anything except what not to do
 
[quote name='superstevedogg']Sometimes I think its rediculous to put the type of hardcore tap they do on games like Madden. The game is E rated, but the songs are nasty. [/quote]

Madden does a LOT of censoring. In that one song they bleep out the word "porn" (the song that goes "just met a porn star, she was an actress").
 
I don't hate the games, or even the spread of the urban, hip-hop culture. I'm more disturbed about the whiny little suburban children of all races who try to act street, yet would fear for thier lives if they were even a couple of feet on the other side of 8 Mile during the middle of the day. They're a bunch of annoying brats that are all just talk.

I'm about as far from urban as you can get, but
I've driven through all parts of Detroit during all times of day. Heck, I've driven down Gratiot all the way from Warren Avenue up until you cross 8 mile and end up in Eastpointe... during the dead of night, and done this multiple times.

This is the very similar to setting you see for most of the rap videos and "urbanized games" that these kids base thier "urban" image on, yet most of them wouldn't even dare cross though there during daylight hours.

These kids are to attracted to the "disneyfied" version of street... you can act hardcore, but you never have to do anything to back it up. Of course, thier overindulgent parents and likeminded friends probably don't help the situation either.
 
I think we all remember the controversy behind the U.S. release of Final Fantasy VII which was one of the first, if not the first, mainstream game to contain the word "shit". Of course the problem was that it only came out of Barret, the rough-talkin'-african-american character. The urbanization of games and game characters has been happening for a while now. Somebody mentioned NBA Jam which did have that "urban flava", albeit in a more subtle fashion. How about the announcer in Crazy Taxi or Fight Night 2004? Similar aspects here.
 
I think urbanization is good to some extent. I live around the whole urban scene so I like to see a game like NBA Street and NFL Street with the whole urban scene. As long as it doesn't go to the point where I pick up my SOCOM 2 and it starts playing rap in the background and the soldiars are running around in Roca WEAR and SOUTH POLE (etc) clothes on. So my point would be that yes urbanization is good to some extent.
 
Hip Hop rap gansta style isn't for me....

As long as they keep it on the console the "tought guys" play, the PS2, and don't bring them over to infect GameCube, I couldn't care less.

Only one more reason to laugh at PS2 players who think it's cool and Nintendo is kiddy :)
 
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