How many CAGs are vegetarians?

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I wanted to make a useless poll during the Cheapy awards that no one can see and I was lisenting to Immortal Technique - Beef and Broccoli. So answer the poll and leave a comment if you wish.
 
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I am not, nor will i ever be, a vegetarian. its just too expensive for my cheapass anyways. i might as well eat something i like that costs less than eat something i am not sure that i will like and pay more.

but i didn't answer the poll honestly.
 
Not me... but I know some people who are.
And I know exactly why they choose to be vegetarian, personally don't think it's dumb, I just could not give up meat.
 
[quote name='javeryh']No offense to anyone out there but choosing to be a vegetarian is just dumb.[/quote]

That's very narrowminded.

As for me, the only meats I really like are chicken and bacon, but I REEALLY like them.
 
I think it would be kinda neat to be a veggiesaurus....

But I just love taking out an ice cream scoop and scooping a double helping right out of the thigh of my beautiful cow, Betsy.

Oom.
 
[quote name='javeryh']No offense to anyone out there but choosing to be a vegetarian is just dumb.[/quote]

That's a fascinating way to not offend anyone. Let me know if it works.

myke.
...respects thoughtful vegetarians who plan their diets, but, alas, is not a vegetarian himself.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Didn't we have on of these not too long ago? Do we really need another?

No offense zewone.[/quote]

Didn't see it and to be honest I didn't search because I don't. Lock it up, whatever I don't care.
 
[quote name='AdamInPlaidum'][quote name='javeryh']No offense to anyone out there but choosing to be a vegetarian is just dumb.[/quote]

That's very narrowminded.

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I didn't say I didn't like vegetarians or that I didn't accept them - I just think it is a dumb thing to do to yourself. Meat is delicious (opinion, of course) and good for you too. I've never met a vegetarian who wasn't a little pasty.

[quote name='mykevermin']That's a fascinating way to not offend anyone. Let me know if it works.

myke.
...respects thoughtful vegetarians who plan their diets, but, alas, is not a vegetarian himself.[/quote]

um, I think it is working... why would anyone be offended because I think choosing to be a vegetarian is dumb? There are plenty of things I do in my life that others might find dumb but that won't offend me - it's just not their thing and that's fine with me.
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='AdamInPlaidum'][quote name='javeryh']No offense to anyone out there but choosing to be a vegetarian is just dumb.[/quote]

That's very narrowminded.

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I didn't say I didn't like vegetarians or that I didn't accept them - I just think it is a dumb thing to do to yourself. Meat is delicious (opinion, of course) and good for you too. I've never met a vegetarian who wasn't a little pasty.

[quote name='mykevermin']That's a fascinating way to not offend anyone. Let me know if it works.

myke.
...respects thoughtful vegetarians who plan their diets, but, alas, is not a vegetarian himself.[/quote]

um, I think it is working... why would anyone be offended because I think choosing to be a vegetarian is dumb? There are plenty of things I do in my life that others might find dumb but that won't offend me - it's just not their thing and that's fine with me.[/quote]

It's very obvious that you have a different idea of what is offensive and what isn't. You wouldn't ask someone what they do for living, and then tell them they have a stupid job.
 
if we shouldn't eat it...then it would kill us if we ingest it.

I had this friend who was fanatically vegan....literally he would tryto force his beliefs upon you. but still I do have some friends who are vegitarians and needless to say it's annoying to eat with them....but hey. what are you going to do
 
[quote name='youruglyclone']if we shouldn't eat it...then it would kill us if we ingest it.

I had this friend who was fanatically vegan....literally he would tryto force his beliefs upon you. but still I do have some friends who are vegitarians and needless to say it's annoying to eat with them....but hey. what are you going to do[/quote]

thats when you order a nice big slab of meat and just slowly eat it and tease them or tear into it and make them cringe.

all in a friendly/joking manner.
 
I'm not a vegetarian, but I probably don't eat enough meat as I should (lack of funds, donations accepted!). I prefer turkey and fish, but still like beef. I won't eat veal (and probably rabbit). My bf has been buying soy milk lately instead of cow milk, but I've been buying some of my own because I like making hot chocolate. Soy milk is nice to have around the house though since it keeps a lot longer than cow milk. It also can be used just like regular milk in recipes and such. I could use it in hot chocolate, but it's just too weird for me to think of using it right now. It would taste the same though.

I have a lot of respect for people who choose to be vegetarian since they usually cook a lot more than a normal person does and eat a lot healthier.
 
[quote name='AdamInPlaidum'][quote name='javeryh'][quote name='AdamInPlaidum'][quote name='javeryh']No offense to anyone out there but choosing to be a vegetarian is just dumb.[/quote]

That's very narrowminded.

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I didn't say I didn't like vegetarians or that I didn't accept them - I just think it is a dumb thing to do to yourself. Meat is delicious (opinion, of course) and good for you too. I've never met a vegetarian who wasn't a little pasty.

[quote name='mykevermin']That's a fascinating way to not offend anyone. Let me know if it works.

myke.
...respects thoughtful vegetarians who plan their diets, but, alas, is not a vegetarian himself.[/quote]

um, I think it is working... why would anyone be offended because I think choosing to be a vegetarian is dumb? There are plenty of things I do in my life that others might find dumb but that won't offend me - it's just not their thing and that's fine with me.[/quote]

It's very obvious that you have a different idea of what is offensive and what isn't. You wouldn't ask someone what they do for living, and then tell them they have a stupid job.[/quote]

I think the larger point is that, if you are opposed to something, then perhaps you should have a well thought out, rational/logical explanation for doing so. If you cannot produce that, then that is fine also. Your judgmental attitude is what's offensive.

Adam, I agree with your comparison to telling a person their job sucks; however, if people work in advertising/marketing, then they do suck (Just to avoid the mighty arrow of hypocrisy, I'll explain - Advertisers and marketers exist for the sole purpose of deceiving the public into thinking they absolutely *need* to have the greatest, newest, shinest product ever. A bag of potato chips, perhaps. The marketer's job is to convince you, the public, that your life will improve and be more satisfying if you buy these chips. Marketers are paid liars; analytical, thoughtful liars, but liars nonetheless. - See! It's not that hard!)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I think the larger point is that, if you are opposed to something, then perhaps you should have a well thought out, rational/logical explanation for doing so. If you cannot produce that, then that is fine also. Your judgmental attitude is what's offensive.[/quote]

*sigh* ... fine, being a vegetarian is dumb because there is no logic to it, IMO, of course.

First of all, meat tastes good - this is hardly an opinion. I don't know a single person, vegetarian or otherwise, who doesn't like the taste or smell of some kind of meat. It's just part of being human.

Second, it is not the healthiest thing to do to yourself. Yes, I know there are other ways to get protein and all that good stuff but meat contains lots of nutrients that are good for the body. Most vegetarians are pasty and have a ghostly malnurishment look to them. I hope they know that the Cure aren't looking for a lead singer.

Third, being a vegetarian is a huge pain in the ass to everyone else. I can't count how many times I've had to wait for an order of food or choose a shitty restaurant because some dumb vegetarian has to have a salad or something.

Fourth, the whole "it's cruel to animals" angle is really really really stupid. Most of these "animal lovers" eat fish anyway - are fish not living things (and are plants not either for that matter)?

Finally we get to the psycho vegans - they are the worst of the bunch. They won't use glue or eat jello or eggs or cake or anything that remotely could have come from an animal (because only monsters could possibly harm an animal) blah, blah, blah. Just go away.

Do they "offend" me because they have different views than I do? No. I'm over the age of 10 and I have tougher skin than that.
 
I'm a humanitarian and feel that vegetarians have abdicated their position in the food chain. Thus they're fair game if I'm feeling peckish and the food court is all the way at the other end of the mall.
 
[quote name='epobirs']I'm a humanitarian and feel that vegetarians have abdicated their position in the food chain. Thus they're fair game if I'm feeling peckish and the food court is all the way at the other end of the mall.[/quote]

Agreed! :lol:

I'm a full-fledged carnivore. Mmmm...beefy!!!
 
Leno's doing headlines. He told Kevin he thinks he knows why he's a vegeterian. He then holds up a grocery store ad and one of the items is Boston butt whole. :lol: I still enjoy some occasional jr. high humor.
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='mykevermin']I think the larger point is that, if you are opposed to something, then perhaps you should have a well thought out, rational/logical explanation for doing so. If you cannot produce that, then that is fine also. Your judgmental attitude is what's offensive.[/quote]

*sigh* ... fine, being a vegetarian is dumb because there is no logic to it, IMO, of course.

First of all, meat tastes good - this is hardly an opinion. I don't know a single person, vegetarian or otherwise, who doesn't like the taste or smell of some kind of meat. It's just part of being human.

Second, it is not the healthiest thing to do to yourself. Yes, I know there are other ways to get protein and all that good stuff but meat contains lots of nutrients that are good for the body. Most vegetarians are pasty and have a ghostly malnurishment look to them. I hope they know that the Cure aren't looking for a lead singer.

Third, being a vegetarian is a huge pain in the ass to everyone else. I can't count how many times I've had to wait for an order of food or choose a shitty restaurant because some dumb vegetarian has to have a salad or something.

Fourth, the whole "it's cruel to animals" angle is really really really stupid. Most of these "animal lovers" eat fish anyway - are fish not living things (and are plants not either for that matter)?

Finally we get to the psycho vegans - they are the worst of the bunch. They won't use glue or eat jello or eggs or cake or anything that remotely could have come from an animal (because only monsters could possibly harm an animal) blah, blah, blah. Just go away.

Do they "offend" me because they have different views than I do? No. I'm over the age of 10 and I have tougher skin than that.[/quote]

There is logic to being a vegetarian, but in order to follow that logic and arrive at the same conclusion, you would have to begin with the same premise -- If you do not believe that animals have the right to live without being tortured and killed, and you are unwilling to even accept that as a possibility, then there is no way you would be able to understand why someone would choose to be vegetarian.

First, while I do agree that many meats taste good, I do know people who don't care for the taste. You should get out and meet more people.

Second, being vegetarian and examining one's diet is a lot healthier than eating at McDonalds.

Third, yes, being a vegetarian can be a pain in the ass both to the vegetarian and to those around them. This is more of a societal issue, however. Ignorant (and, I mean that in a non-disparaging way) people who do not understand that vegetarians have a right to eat can be a real pain in the ass. At an old job, my coworkers and I would go out for lunch together on many occasions. They didn't like trying anything new, and would basically only eat at places like O'Charley's and Ruby Tuesday, which meant a lot of pretty bland salads for me. However, according to most of society, I was the pain in the ass when I wanted something other than salad at a restaurant that they were unwilling to try (Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern, etc.). That is BS. Being vegetarian is not the same as being picky. There is a big difference. Asking me to eat meat would be similar to asking you to kill a human and eat it.

Fourth, your fourth argument(s) are some of the stupidest I have seen, and I have seen them before. You are reasoning that the food industry isn't cruel to animals because some "vegetarians" eat fish? In my opinion, "vegetarians" who eat fish are not vegetarians (hence the quotes). But even if they are hypocrites does not mean they are wrong. And, yes, plants are living. Did someone tell you that a vegetarian won't eat living things? You have been misinformed.

Finally, I am a "psycho vegan". What an open-minded way of putting it. Perhaps I can have T-shirts made up. Clearly, in spite of your protests to the contrary, vegetarians do offend you, or you would not have mocked us and told us to "just go away". And most people are grossed out when they find out what Jello is, btw.

What you had meant to post initially is "It would be dumb for me (javeryh) to choose to be vegetarian".


"*sigh* ... being a vegetarian is dumb ... huge pain in the ass ... dumb vegetarian ... really really really stupid ... psycho vegans ... blah, blah, blah. Just go away." -- Condensed ignorance.
 
There is logic to being a vegetarian, but in order to follow that logic and arrive at the same conclusion, you would have to begin with the same premise -- If you do not believe that animals have the right to live without being tortured and killed, and you are unwilling to even accept that as a possibility, then there is no way you would be able to understand why someone would choose to be vegetarian.
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Have you ever killed a spider? What about eating "free range" animals? - there is no torture involved whatsoever (unless you equate torture with just plain killing - I can't help you there).

First, while I do agree that many meats taste good, I do know people who don't care for the taste. You should get out and meet more people.
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I've got plenty of vegetarian friends - in fact, two of my very best friends are vegetarians. That doesn't mean I like their eating habits. Every one of them is "grossed out" by the concept of meat but they won't deny it tastes and smells pretty good.

Second, being vegetarian and examining one's diet is a lot healthier than eating at McDonalds.
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Being a vegetarian is not "examining one's diet" - it's just an irrational response to the thought of poor cute little animals being bred and killed for food. Boo hoo. I'm pretty sure a bear wouldn't think twice about eating you. Oh yeah, I forgot... you're enlightened. :roll: FYI, I haven't been to McDonalds in over 10 years and I don't plan on ever going back. I'm a very healthy eater (and so are a lot of meat eaters, believe it or not) - I'm just not crazy.

Third, yes, being a vegetarian can be a pain in the ass both to the vegetarian and to those around them. This is more of a societal issue, however. Ignorant (and, I mean that in a non-disparaging way) people who do not understand that vegetarians have a right to eat can be a real pain in the ass. At an old job, my coworkers and I would go out for lunch together on many occasions. They didn't like trying anything new, and would basically only eat at places like O'Charley's and Ruby Tuesday, which meant a lot of pretty bland salads for me. However, according to most of society, I was the pain in the ass when I wanted something other than salad at a restaurant that they were unwilling to try (Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern, etc.). That is BS. Being vegetarian is not the same as being picky. There is a big difference. Asking me to eat meat would be similar to asking you to kill a human and eat it.
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You have the right to eat whatever you want - and so do your co-workers. You shouldn't be going out to lunch with them though if you don't like where they are going. You chose to eat like that not them. I would feel the exact same way if you had 50 other vegetarian co-workers and the meat eaters were complaining about where you guys were always eating. Don't be a pain in the ass - either go where the group wants to go or don't. What's BS is that they have to put up with your whining.

Also, your analogy about eating me humans is completely flawed. I'm sure we taste delicious (if cooked properly, of course) but it is illegal to kill and eat a human in our society. We don't eat dogs and cats and other household pets either because there are laws against that too. I get that you don't eat meat and I'm not saying you should - I really don't care. I just think it is dumb.

Fourth, your fourth argument(s) are some of the stupidest I have seen, and I have seen them before. You are reasoning that the food industry isn't cruel to animals because some "vegetarians" eat fish? In my opinion, "vegetarians" who eat fish are not vegetarians (hence the quotes). But even if they are hypocrites does not mean they are wrong. And, yes, plants are living. Did someone tell you that a vegetarian won't eat living things? You have been misinformed.
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You are misunderstanding my point. Most "vegetarians" don't eat meat because they believe it is cruel to animals yet they eat fish with no problem. That is just insane. Also, I know vegetarians eat living things (duh) - I was just making the point that where they draw the line as to what living things they will or won't eat makes absolutely no sense.

Finally, I am a "psycho vegan". What an open-minded way of putting it. Perhaps I can have T-shirts made up. Clearly, in spite of your protests to the contrary, vegetarians do offend you, or you would not have mocked us and told us to "just go away". And most people are grossed out when they find out what Jello is, btw.
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Oh, yes. T-shirts. That would be a great idea. Then I wouldn't have to worry about asking someone out only to find out that she is a vegan on our first date and dump her on the spot (true story). Look, I don't have a problem with vegetarians (I could never date one though - what a pain in the ass that would be). I will admit I just don't "get" vegans - it does seem a little strange to me although "psycho" probably wasn't the right word - I just think it is a dumb thing to do to oneself.

What you had meant to post initially is "It would be dumb for me (javeryh) to choose to be vegetarian".
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This is true.

"*sigh* ... being a vegetarian is dumb ... huge pain in the ass ... dumb vegetarian ... really really really stupid ... psycho vegans ... blah, blah, blah. Just go away." -- Condensed ignorance.
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:roll: Saying I'm "ignorant" is completely off the mark. I'm informed as to how vegetarians eat and (most of) the reasons behind it. I've gathered available information and formed an opinion - being a vegetarian is dumb. I'm certainly not ignorant just because I don't agree with you.

I'm done discussing this. My opinion is that it is dumb to be a vegetarian. You don't have to agree with me and I'm not asking you to. I don't have anything against vegetarians or the way they choose to live their lives. Some of my best friends are vegetarians and I'm sure that there are things I'm passionate about that they think are dumb and that's fine with me. We can agree to disagree. :D
 
If you think about it, *all* food is kinda weird/gross.
Fish? They're just yucky to look at, especially with the head chopped off or staring at you.
Meat? Grinding up an animal to eat its flesh.
Milk? Let's squeeze these things and drink whatever comes out.
Shrimp? You know what that 'vein' actually is? And all those little legs, and that exoskeleton thing....
Eggs? Chicken abortions.
Plants? These green/red things, growing for months outside, having manure and chemicals dumped on them.
Yogurt? 'Contains living bacteria'. Am I the only one who saw The Stuff?

Anyway, almost anything can be argued.
I personally am not a vegetarian, I like meat, primarily ground beef and chicken. If someone else wants to be a vegetarian/vegan, whatever. I might disagree with their conclusion, or the way they got there, but I'll respect their right to do so--as long as they don't get militant on me. I don't force them to eat meat, or try to convince them to, so leave me alone as well.

The argument that 'well, because I'm a *blank*, it's unfair, because everyone else wants to go somewhere I can't eat' is totally flawed. They say "Let's to go Steaks R Us,", you either say, Yes, No, or How bout somewhere else? And the group comes to a decision which you either deal with or don't. I have a two year old, is it fair for me to say to my group of friends [who don't have kids] to say 'No, let's go here, because my boy can come with us', and *expect them* to always bow to my will? In today's political correct, tyranny of the minority society, perhaps, but common sense says No, I either deal with it, don't go, or convince them to go somewhere else.

Isn't veganism where you don't eat or use anything made out of animal products? Which of course is quite hard to do, since we've been using animals since the caveman days. I always chuckle when I hear the twosidedness of many of these militants, like what's her name, the head of PETA, who is adamantly allegedly pro-animal, but her organization kills more animals than a city animal shelter, and she relies on animal byproducts for her lifesaving medicine, while trying to prevent us poor peons from having the same benefit.
 
I think its cool for someone to be a vegetarian, but me personally, I could never give up eating meat. Its just too damn good.

Also, what is Jello made out of?
 
[quote name='zewone']I think its cool for someone to be a vegetarian, but me personally, I could never give up eating meat. Its just too damn good.

Also, what is Jello made out of?[/quote]

The Zenithian Legend.

myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin'][quote name='zewone']I think its cool for someone to be a vegetarian, but me personally, I could never give up eating meat. Its just too damn good.

Also, what is Jello made out of?[/quote]

The Zenithian Legend.

myke.[/quote]

Gross.
 
I heard somewhere that meats contain certain enzymes that help to keep your teeth white, and this is why a lot of vegetarians have miscolored teeth. Is there any truth to this?
 
[quote name='masterh']My fiancee is a vegetarian. Which more or less makes me a vegetarian..[/quote]

You'll do well as a married man :)
 
[quote name='zewone'][quote name='mykevermin'][quote name='zewone']I think its cool for someone to be a vegetarian, but me personally, I could never give up eating meat. Its just too damn good.

Also, what is Jello made out of?[/quote]

The Zenithian Legend.

myke.[/quote]

Gross.[/quote]
:D
 
[quote name='javeryh']
There is logic to being a vegetarian, but in order to follow that logic and arrive at the same conclusion, you would have to begin with the same premise -- If you do not believe that animals have the right to live without being tortured and killed, and you are unwilling to even accept that as a possibility, then there is no way you would be able to understand why someone would choose to be vegetarian.
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Have you ever killed a spider? What about eating "free range" animals? - there is no torture involved whatsoever (unless you equate torture with just plain killing - I can't help you there).[/quote]
Well, killing isn't exactly the friendliest thing you can do to someone.

First, while I do agree that many meats taste good, I do know people who don't care for the taste. You should get out and meet more people.
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I've got plenty of vegetarian friends - in fact, two of my very best friends are vegetarians. That doesn't mean I like their eating habits. Every one of them is "grossed out" by the concept of meat but they won't deny it tastes and smells pretty good.
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As stated, I do agree that meat tasted (and can smell) good to me. I also stated that I know people who don't like the smell and taste of meat. It doesn't matter how many people you find who like it, my point was merely that there are exceptions.

Second, being vegetarian and examining one's diet is a lot healthier than eating at McDonalds.
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Being a vegetarian is not "examining one's diet" - it's just an irrational response to the thought of poor cute little animals being bred and killed for food. Boo hoo. I'm pretty sure a bear wouldn't think twice about eating you. Oh yeah, I forgot... you're enlightened. :roll: FYI, I haven't been to McDonalds in over 10 years and I don't plan on ever going back. I'm a very healthy eater (and so are a lot of meat eaters, believe it or not) - I'm just not crazy.
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Being vegetarian is not "examining one's diet", but it requires examining one's diet, something which most meat eaters do not do. I did not mean to imply that all meat eaters have unhealthy eating habits -- good for you that you are a healthy eater. Note: add "boo hoo", "you're enlightened. :roll:", and "crazy" to ignorance list.

Third, yes, being a vegetarian can be a pain in the ass both to the vegetarian and to those around them. This is more of a societal issue, however. Ignorant (and, I mean that in a non-disparaging way) people who do not understand that vegetarians have a right to eat can be a real pain in the ass. At an old job, my coworkers and I would go out for lunch together on many occasions. They didn't like trying anything new, and would basically only eat at places like O'Charley's and Ruby Tuesday, which meant a lot of pretty bland salads for me. However, according to most of society, I was the pain in the ass when I wanted something other than salad at a restaurant that they were unwilling to try (Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern, etc.). That is BS. Being vegetarian is not the same as being picky. There is a big difference. Asking me to eat meat would be similar to asking you to kill a human and eat it.
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You have the right to eat whatever you want - and so do your co-workers. You shouldn't be going out to lunch with them though if you don't like where they are going. You chose to eat like that not them. I would feel the exact same way if you had 50 other vegetarian co-workers and the meat eaters were complaining about where you guys were always eating. Don't be a pain in the ass - either go where the group wants to go or don't. What's BS is that they have to put up with your whining.

Also, your analogy about eating me humans is completely flawed. I'm sure we taste delicious (if cooked properly, of course) but it is illegal to kill and eat a human in our society. We don't eat dogs and cats and other household pets either because there are laws against that too. I get that you don't eat meat and I'm not saying you should - I really don't care. I just think it is dumb.
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I don't think I wrote anything indicative of whining. I was the only vegetarian, but there were other people who liked the same restaurants I did. But the few who were unwilling to eat at non-American style restaurants dictated where we would go when we all went out together. Being an office environment, there were many occasions when not going was not an option. My statement about eating humans had nothing to do with legality. Add "pain in the ass" and it is "dumb".

Fourth, your fourth argument(s) are some of the stupidest I have seen, and I have seen them before. You are reasoning that the food industry isn't cruel to animals because some "vegetarians" eat fish? In my opinion, "vegetarians" who eat fish are not vegetarians (hence the quotes). But even if they are hypocrites does not mean they are wrong. And, yes, plants are living. Did someone tell you that a vegetarian won't eat living things? You have been misinformed.
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You are misunderstanding my point. Most "vegetarians" don't eat meat because they believe it is cruel to animals yet they eat fish with no problem. That is just insane. Also, I know vegetarians eat living things (duh) - I was just making the point that where they draw the line as to what living things they will or won't eat makes absolutely no sense.
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I agreed with you that it is "insane" to call oneself a vegetarian and still eat fish. And you bring up a good point that it is all about where one draws the line, for there must be a line, otherwise one would eat nothing and die. But do you really believe there is no difference between eating plants and eating animals? I am not trying to convince you to become a vegetarian, but seriously, you don't think animals exhibit more intelligence and ability to reason than plants?

Finally, I am a "psycho vegan". What an open-minded way of putting it. Perhaps I can have T-shirts made up. Clearly, in spite of your protests to the contrary, vegetarians do offend you, or you would not have mocked us and told us to "just go away". And most people are grossed out when they find out what Jello is, btw.
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Oh, yes. T-shirts. That would be a great idea. Then I wouldn't have to worry about asking someone out only to find out that she is a vegan on our first date and dump her on the spot (true story). Look, I don't have a problem with vegetarians (I could never date one though - what a pain in the ass that would be). I will admit I just don't "get" vegans - it does seem a little strange to me although "psycho" probably wasn't the right word - I just think it is a dumb thing to do to oneself.
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Was it like "Oh, you're a vegan, take a cab home"? Or were you more tactful than that? Also, and I know this is a longshot, but, do you still have her number? Could you PM me with it? Finding a vegan woman isn't easy.

What you had meant to post initially is "It would be dumb for me (javeryh) to choose to be vegetarian".
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This is true.

"*sigh* ... being a vegetarian is dumb ... huge pain in the ass ... dumb vegetarian ... really really really stupid ... psycho vegans ... blah, blah, blah. Just go away." -- Condensed ignorance.
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:roll: Saying I'm "ignorant" is completely off the mark. I'm informed as to how vegetarians eat and (most of) the reasons behind it. I've gathered available information and formed an opinion - being a vegetarian is dumb. I'm certainly not ignorant just because I don't agree with you.

I'm done discussing this. My opinion is that it is dumb to be a vegetarian. You don't have to agree with me and I'm not asking you to. I don't have anything against vegetarians or the way they choose to live their lives. Some of my best friends are vegetarians and I'm sure that there are things I'm passionate about that they think are dumb and that's fine with me. We can agree to disagree. :D
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I never called you ignorant. I never did any name calling (you did, btw). Your statements were ignorant. Once again, you have stated that "it is dumb to be a vegetarian". This is a rude and ignorant statement. "It would be dumb for me (javeryh) to be a vegetarian" is what you meant to write -- I believe we covered that. Prefacing an offensive statement with "it is my opinion that..." doesn't make it less offensive -- go up to someone and say "I'm not saying you are an asshole, but it is my opinion that you are an asshole", and see if they notice the subtle difference. You claim to have nothing against vegetarians, yet almost every statement you make about them is rude or intentionally offensive. And "I'm done discussing this" is one of the most ignorant statements a person can make -- it shows an unwillingness to open one's mind and listen to reason. Surely you don't think you have gathered all the possible information on the subject, I know I haven't -- no one has. I understand that there are other things with which you would rather occupy your time, and that is fine, but stating that you are unwilling to read any more about a subject which you have been discussing is like a child covering one's ears and saying "lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala" to block out the sound of anyone trying to get through.
 
By the way - as someone who's recently had to do all of the cooking / food purchasing in a relationship, vegetarianism really IS the Cheap-ass way to go. Beef prices seem to've skyrocketed in the past year or so... not to mention how nervous buying ground beef / chicken makes me after reading Fast Food Nation.
There are reasons for choosing vegetarianism other than ethical reasons, as my fiancee's taught me (she just doesn't like meat.) Vegetarianism is cheap, pretty healthy (if you make sure you have full proteins - google on protein combining), and - if you choose the right foods - a great way to lose weight, as I've found over the past few months.
'Course, if you don't like vegetables/ love meat, it's a moot point. I buy a small steak for myself every now and then when I'm jonesing, but I can live without it for the most part.
 
[quote name='masterh']vegetarianism really IS the Cheap-ass way to go.[/quote]

Meat isn't necessarily that expensive if that's all you eat (say on the Adkins diet or something). Lots of other food (dairy, prepared suger/baked goods, etc.) can be expensive also, and when you eliminate those from your diet, meat by itself isn't really an expensive alternative.
 
[quote name='masterh']vegetarianism really IS the Cheap-ass way to go.[/quote]

Hmm... the vegetarians I know tend to shop at wholefood market places, which are not cheap, AT ALL. But, for the others, I guess that's true.
 
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