Humble Bundle Thread

warreni said:
I feel this only bolsters my argument against getting monthlies. It seems as though everything's going to turn up in a regular Humble sooner or later. I guess we'll see as the year unfolds.
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It bolsters the argument against getting monthlies to the same extent as it does the argument against grabbing the BTA.

 
have any of the hero monthly games been bundled afterwards for less? That would be a better test for/against.

Mad Max for $12 by itself is the lowest it has ever been.

South Park/war of mine, same

ark/wasteland 2, same

all the other games in each monthly bundle should be mathed out to $0 because you are already getting 1-2 known games for the cheapest they have ever been at that time, and the cheapest for several months after the bundle

 
vherub said:
have any of the hero monthly games been bundled afterwards for less? That would be a better test for/against.

Mad Max for $12 by itself is the lowest it has ever been.

South Park/war of mine, same

ark/wasteland 2, same

all the other games in each monthly bundle should be mathed out to $0 because you are already getting 1-2 known games for the cheapest they have ever been at that time, and the cheapest for several months after the bundle
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Pretty much this.Imo, I don't see the point on complaining about small repeats when you're getting stuff like ARK Survival Evolved, Wasteland 2, South Park, This War of Mine, Mad Max, Alien Isolation, Nuclear Throne along with a bunch of other highly praised indies.

 
vherub said:
all the other games in each monthly bundle should be mathed out to $0 because you are already getting 1-2 known games for the cheapest they have ever been at that time, and the cheapest for several months after the bundle
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It's never about the cheapest they have been. It's always about getting it for as little as humanly possible.

You can cut up the math any way that makes you feel better, it still kind of sucks that they're recycling games from recent subscription bundles.

As an aside... I wonder how far they're going to take this "discount for new subscribers only"? So far I've continued to get the coupon rate, but the moment they try to enforce it I'm just going to sign up with another email address. I would imagine everyone else is too.

 
warreni said:
I feel this only bolsters my argument against getting monthlies. It seems as though everything's going to turn up in a regular Humble sooner or later. I guess we'll see as the year unfolds.
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That makes no sense... Everything has the chance to be bundled later. If you're buying the monthly bundles to not to play the games right away you're always gonna feel ripped off. It's like complaining because I bought a game on release for full price and then getting mad cause it got bundled later.

 
jrodri86 said:
That makes no sense... Everything has the chance to be bundled later. If you're buying the monthly bundles to not to play the games right away you're always gonna feel ripped off. It's like complaining because I bought a game on release for full price and then getting mad cause it got bundled later.
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This is CAG. Most here have done that.

 
Just got A Boy and his Blob from Tremor. Surprised they started selling the games this early. Unfortunately, Shantae was already gone.

 
HBX said:
Just got A Boy and his Blob from Tremor. Surprised they started selling the games this early. Unfortunately, Shantae was already gone.
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Sending you Shantae.

*Edit: As soon as Humble stops taking a dump and processes my god damned order.

I got it from Tremor after it was in the monthly for WAAAY too much doll hair and I eat kitty videos.

 
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Motoki said:
Sending you Shantae.

*Edit: As soon as Humble stops taking a dump and processes my god damned order.

I got it from Tremor after it was in the monthly for WAAAY too much doll hair and I eat kitty videos.
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Thank you very much. I've watched too many trampoline videos there recently.

 
I want that damned Towerfall but it's always in some surprise bundle I didn't buy or in a higher tier I don't want to pay for with crap I already have and I'm not a gazillionaire on Tremor to pay the 1200 coins.

I'll try when I get home to do some schiesty ass offers if it's still around but I doubt it and bet all the dirty foreigners will steal them all.

 
Motoki said:
Sending you Shantae.

*Edit: As soon as Humble stops taking a dump and processes my god damned order.

I got it from Tremor after it was in the monthly for WAAAY too much doll hair and I eat kitty videos.
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This Shantae game wasn't in the monthly. IIRC Pirate's Curse was.

 
Motoki said:
Why then why is everyone freaking out of the monthly? Oh hell I can't keep tracking of them games. Way Forward has more Shantaes than RuPaul's Drag Race.
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Both Towerfall and Mushroom 11 were in monthlies. The $1 was pretty awesome for me actually. Thought I owned Shantae because, like you, I thought this was the one in the monthly. Picked up Mini Metro for $1 via cesspool so that saved me from being tempted to split the BTA tier.

 
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Motoki said:
I want that damned Towerfall but it's always in some surprise bundle I didn't buy or in a higher tier I don't want to pay for with crap I already have and I'm not a gazillionaire on Tremor to pay the 1200 coins.

I'll try when I get home to do some schiesty ass offers if it's still around but I doubt it and bet all the dirty foreigners will steal them all.
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Towerfall seems to be available in a lot of splits on group buys.

 
I was happy to see the repeats from the monthlies in the BTA tier. That way I wasn't tempted to get it. I'll pick up Mini Metro in the cesspool or wait for a rebundle, and be happy with the $1 tier.

 
Paid $1 for the Ninty bundle and the Eye Candy Bundle. Didn't have anything in the $1 tier for Eye Candy and really wanted Shantae and ABaHB so that was a good buy.

Speaking of Tremor, anybody know the difference between buying a Steam Game and a Steam gift for a particular game, aside from Gift being more obscenely expensive over Game?

 
I'm not going to delude myself into thinking I'm ever going to get around to playing any of the games they added to the Nintendo bundle, so if you want one of them, just quote me and tell me which one you'd like (and be a somewhat regular user who doesn't take part in trading/selling these). To make that clear, I'm giving away:

[strike]Swords and Soldiers II (Wii U)[/strike]
Runbow (Wii U)
Nano Assault EX (3DS)

I might be a little slow to reply, so don't get too impatient if I take a while to get back to you. Thanks!

 
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thievery said:
I'm not going to delude myself into thinking I'm ever going to get around to playing any of the games they added to the Nintendo bundle, so if you want one of them, just quote me and tell me which one you'd like (and be a somewhat regular user who doesn't take part in trading/selling these). To make that clear, I'm giving away:

Swords and Soldiers II (Wii U)
Runbow (Wii U)
Nano Assault EX (3DS)

I might be a little slow to reply, so don't get too impatient if I take a while to get back to you. Thanks!
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I'd like Nano assault if you're giving it away :)
 
thievery said:
I'm not going to delude myself into thinking I'm ever going to get around to playing any of the games they added to the Nintendo bundle, so if you want one of them, just quote me and tell me which one you'd like (and be a somewhat regular user who doesn't take part in trading/selling these). To make that clear, I'm giving away:

Swords and Soldiers II (Wii U)
Runbow (Wii U)
Nano Assault EX (3DS)

I might be a little slow to reply, so don't get too impatient if I take a while to get back to you. Thanks!
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I would really like Runbow. :)

 
So I'm not going to start a whole "internet argument" thing, because there are legitimate points to be made on both sides from where I'm sitting, but . . .

jrodri86 said:
That makes no sense... Everything has the chance to be bundled later. If you're buying the monthly bundles to not to play the games right away you're always gonna feel ripped off. It's like complaining because I bought a game on release for full price and then getting mad cause it got bundled later.
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vherub said:
have any of the hero monthly games been bundled afterwards for less? That would be a better test for/against.

Mad Max for $12 by itself is the lowest it has ever been.

South Park/war of mine, same

ark/wasteland 2, same

all the other games in each monthly bundle should be mathed out to $0 because you are already getting 1-2 known games for the cheapest they have ever been at that time, and the cheapest for several months after the bundle
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Here's the issue as I see it: if you're willing to brave the key-selling (aka trash) thread on or around the time that a bundle is released, you can usually find the headline game for $5 or less because a subset of subscribers have already acquired that game for their personal inventories through shady sites or glitches. Because HB is going to (apparently) rebundle everything else in later bundles, the value of the "extra" games is fairly limited, but if there are one or two that you really want, you can find folks selling their extras for one or two bucks in the trash thread too. So for considerably less that the $10.8 or $12 entry point, depending on whether you have a current coupon, you can get the bits of a bundle that you're interested in without the filler that you don't want.

EldritchOnRye said:
I think it has to do with trading and one is more desirable but I don't go in that world.
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OTOH, there's this. Some people hate the trash thread and won't go near it if you paid them. And they don't want to tremorbro or venture onto Steamtrades or whatever other mechanism may be available for this purpose. For some folks, it's just easier to pony up the $12. I respect that, but this is CAG.

 
The Tie Fighter and X-Wing steam versions got an update yesterday that added the CD-ROM collectors editions, along with some windows 10 fixes/patches. They should be equal to the GOG versions now, which is good if you got them when they were bundled.

 
thievery said:
I'm not going to delude myself into thinking I'm ever going to get around to playing any of the games they added to the Nintendo bundle, so if you want one of them, just quote me and tell me which one you'd like (and be a somewhat regular user who doesn't take part in trading/selling these). To make that clear, I'm giving away:

Swords and Soldiers II (Wii U)
Runbow (Wii U)
Nano Assault EX (3DS)

I might be a little slow to reply, so don't get too impatient if I take a while to get back to you. Thanks!
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I"ll take Swords if you stil have it. TY!

 
warreni said:
Here's the issue as I see it: if you're willing to brave the key-selling (aka trash) thread on or around the time that a bundle is released, you can usually find the headline game for $5 or less because a subset of subscribers have already acquired that game for their personal inventories through shady sites or glitches. Because HB is going to (apparently) rebundle everything else in later bundles, the value of the "extra" games is fairly limited, but if there are one or two that you really want, you can find folks selling their extras for one or two bucks in the trash thread too. So for considerably less that the $10.8 or $12 entry point, depending on whether you have a current coupon, you can get the bits of a bundle that you're interested in without the filler that you don't want.

OTOH, there's this. Some people hate the trash thread and won't go near it if you paid them. And they don't want to tremorbro or venture onto Steamtrades or whatever other mechanism may be available for this purpose. For some folks, it's just easier to pony up the $12. I respect that, but this is CAG.
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Some people need to stop seeing the monthly bundle as a normal one, I see it as PS+ for PC but in this case you keep the games. You get one recently released game or two middle prices ones at their lowest historical price for the total price of the bundle and on top of that you get a bunch of good indies (some of which have never been on sale). For the people who are going to play the games right away it's a damn good deal, but if your objective is to get all the games at their lowest price possible then you're always gonna feel ripped off. It's clearly not for everybody (and certainly not for me as I'm not subscribed).

Imo, complaining about rebundles it's ludicrous cause at this point people should know that everything is bound to get bundled later not only by Humble Bundle but by the other 10 indie seller outlets out there. The whole games being rebundled lowers the value of the monthly bundle argument is stupid cause it was clearly a damn good deal when you bought it, but if you keep backlogging your games of course they're gonna lose value. One would think that at this point everyone would've figured this out.

 
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EldritchOnRye said:
I think it has to do with trading and one is more desirable but I don't go in that world.
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Pretty much this. A lot of people are completely averse to buying keys, not matter if they come from an authorized seller, for fear of them being revoked or not work at all. However, they prefer to go and buy a Steam tradable gift from an unknown person because fuck logic. That's the reason why Steam tradable gifts tend to be more expensive.

 
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jrodri86 said:
Pretty much this. A lot of people are completely averse to buying keys, not matter if they come from an authorized seller, for fear of them being revoked or not work at all. However, they prefer to go and buy a Steam tradable gift from an unknown person because fuck logic. That's the reason why Steam tradable gifts tend to be more expensive.
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gift can be stored for later use and u know that it will work. Key can't be verified without being redeemed.

you haven't traded very much.. hence you have such opinion

 
If anyone wants to buy any of the Wii U games from the Nintendo bundle (particularly Darksiders II, top BTA tier) shoot me a PM - I'd like to buy the bundle just for the 3DS games and defray some of the cost of the games I can't play.

Also still not sure if Nintendo's game account/ID actually work the way they should yet (basically like Steam, PSN and XBL tying the games to your account and not hardware).

 
agentghost said:
gift can be stored for later use and u know that it will work. Key can't be verified without being redeemed.

you haven't traded very much.. hence you have such opinion
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I haven't traded much? LOL you should check my feedback not only here but on Steamgifts, SGS, etc... The whole pricing of gifts vs keys is something I have always found ridiculous cause at the end of the day it's pretty much the same game and I'm fine with either as long as they come from a reputable seller or an authorized outlet. However, that's how the market works and there's no point on try changing it and clearly it's also futile to put it up to discussion.

 
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Hand-wringing about repeats from monthly bundles aside, I just gotta say that none of the "Eye Candy" games look all that visually extraordinary.  The Mushroom 11 one has the most attractive backgrounds but others look like pretty typical platformer/retro stuff and a couple minimal style games that I wouldn't call "eye candy".

Anyway, go back to debating the valuation spread on a $3 game.

 
jrodri86 said:
... I see it as PS+ for PC...
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jrodri86 said:
I haven't traded much? LOL you should check my feedback not only here but on Steamgifts, SGS, etc... The whole pricing of gifts vs keys is something I have always found ridiculous cause at the end of the day it's pretty much the same game and I'm fine with either as long as they come from a reputable seller or an authorized outlet. However, that's how the market works and there's no point on try changing it and clearly it's also futile to put it up to discussion.
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I could be wrong, but I believe agentghost was referring to the fact that you think most key traders are unreliable. If you do much trading here on CAG, you'll find that the opposite is true.

I'm also not really sure that you understood Eldritch's post or maybe I didn't--I read it to mean that he was saying that, as I stated earlier, some people would rather buy a whole bundle than horse-trade for keys with others. This is completely unrelated to whether keys or gifts are more expensive and the rationale behind it.

Syntax Error said:
Hand-wringing about repeats from monthly bundles aside, I just gotta say that none of the "Eye Candy" games look all that visually extraordinary. The Mushroom 11 one has the most attractive backgrounds but others look like pretty typical platformer/retro stuff and a couple minimal style games that I wouldn't call "eye candy".

Anyway, go back to debating the valuation spread on a $3 game.
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After reviewing some of the games, I somewhat agree. I think it's silly to call a pixel art game "eye candy" when the main reason people (especially indie devs) rely on this art style is that it's simpler and therefore easier than creating more conventional character models and backgrounds. Towerfall and Shantae qualify as pixel art games and Mini Metro is so minimalistic that the label doesn't really fit either. However, A Boy and His Blob has a pretty well-crafted cartoon aesthetic and Mushroom 11 and Human Resource Machine each have an unusual but well-crafted 2D look that seems to work well. I could argue that Evoland II fits the term because the latter stages are probably quite sophisticated; it seems to be essentially a duplicate of the first game in that context.

 
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Human Resource Machine is definitely not good to look at, but it seems like a decent introduction to programming. In fact, Intro to Programming classes use pseudo-code programs that look just about the same as that (we used Alice back when I first learned how, and that was a nightmare). And one of the challenges looks to be cleaning up code for less compile time (gtfo with 20 if statements). People interested in learning the concepts of programming should check it out.

 
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jrodri86 said:
I haven't traded much? LOL you should check my feedback not only here but on Steamgifts, SGS, etc... The whole pricing of gifts vs keys is something I have always found ridiculous cause at the end of the day it's pretty much the same game and I'm fine with either as long as they come from a reputable seller or an authorized outlet. However, that's how the market works and there's no point on try changing it and clearly it's also futile to put it up to discussion.
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True, i see no difference and yes it's ridiculous to differentiate IF you buy to play RIGHT AWAY.

But my buyers and their wallets see the other way and if they are willing to fork out more $ for a "gift" copy, then why not?

 
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