I always knew that Bill Maher was an asshole, but...

South Park has done anything and everything at this point. It's generally expected that they will do this.

It doesn't matter that it's Bill Maher dressing up like that. It could be Oprah Winfrey or Seth Green and I'd still say it's tasteless and not funny.
 
Oh, I get it now. If you don't appreciate the costume you must hate Bill Maher. So that's how it works now?

Personally I think it's pretty lame. The outfit and the hair.
 
His face looks like a wrinkly ass....
But still, I don't care about the costume no matter who it is inside of it.

He is unfunny though. I kinda compare him to Dennis Miller, they use the same jokes over and over even when they were not funny to begin with.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']I'm sure if Ali G, Dane Cook, Johnny Knoxville or someone similar who can do no wrong did this, no one would have a problem.[/QUOTE]
Kind of like that? ^
 
I would have thought the costume was stupid if anybody did it. Had nothing to do with the jackass in it.

And is Dane Cook the guy who played Spence in King of Queens? Ali G sounds like he is half retarted. And Knoxville...well he got his career started by taking shots in the nuts and jumping off buildings on a skateboard, so that speaks for itself.

Not offensive to me, it just looks retarted.
 
[quote name='Rags']I would have thought the costume was stupid if anybody did it. Had nothing to do with the jackass in it.

And is Dane Cook the guy who played Spence in King of Queens? Ali G sounds like he is half retarted. And Knoxville...well he got his career started by taking shots in the nuts and jumping off buildings on a skateboard, so that speaks for itself.

Not offensive to me, it just looks retarted.[/QUOTE]

Retarted huh? Sounds like a baking technique.
 
I am going to a Halloween party as Bill Maher. Here is my costume:

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[quote name='BIG5']That is in bad taste, but I'm more interested in one of the previous entries.

http://thesuperficial.com/2006/10/jessica_alba_has_sex_in_the_oc.html[/quote]

Agreed. Is the costume questionable, without a doubt, but it shouldn't be made into such a big deal by some people. Stupid costume, get over it. It doesn't take anything away from what Steve Irwin did. Did anyone see SP last week? Obviously it's ok for South Park to go after Steve Irwin, but not anyone else. What a double standard.

[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']I'm sure if Ali G, Dane Cook, Johnny Knoxville or someone similar who can do no wrong did this, no one would have a problem.[/quote]

Exactly.
 
[quote name='lordxixor101']Well, maybe I feel a bit different about this. First off, I think JFK and Steve Irwin is a bit different. Whatever you think of him, JFK was the President, and he died while being President. That's a major difference than a person who's goal is to create an image to make money off of (which obviously isn't Steve Irwin, but most celebrities and even popular athletes).

Now, this costume may be in bad taste, but I don't see the horrendous offense. Sorry, if I wanted to be Steve Irwin last year, that is ok. Heck, it's a compliment to him. However, Steve made a living by tempting danger, when danger gets him, it will be seen in this way. Same thing if David Blaine ever dies in one of his acts, that will be a costume.

Now, I'm not a fan of Bill Maher, and it is kind of early for these jokes it seems. But honestly, would you be offended if someone dressed up as dead Elvis sitting on a toilet? Would anyone worry about the Presley family's feelings on it. Sure, it would be a stupid costume, but no one would care.

Secondly, I heard of South Park. Wasn't Irwin's widow upset that her kids might see the episode? Well, her kids are 8 and under, so they shouldn't be watching South Park right now. When they are older, sorry, they will have to learn to deal with this. It's a side effect of what their dad use to do?[/quote]

:applause::applause::applause::applause:
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Agreed. Is the costume questionable, without a doubt, but it shouldn't be made into such a big deal by some people. Stupid costume, get over it. It doesn't take anything away from what Steve Irwin did. Did anyone see SP last week? Obviously it's ok for South Park to go after Steve Irwin, but not anyone else. What a double standard.



Exactly.[/quote]Funny someone should mention that, again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6093802.stm

And other than the people that have mentioned it in this thread, no, I don't think anyone else did see SP.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Did anyone see SP last week? Obviously it's ok for South Park to go after Steve Irwin, but not anyone else. What a double standard.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I don't think you did, though, as you missed the point.

Also, nobody in this thread is making a huge deal out of it. Simply put, he's a tasteless asshole for wearing this kind of costume. Keep in mind, Steve Irwin is someone's father, someone's husband, etc. How would you like it if I was a big name celebrity, who has some type of unfortunate voice in our society (some celebrities just shouldn't), and I dressed as your dead mother who just passed away?
 
[quote name='Brak']Yeah. I don't think you did, though, as you missed the point.[/quote]

Gotta love the internet. People can tell me what I did and didn't see.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Gotta love the internet. People can tell me what I did and didn't see.[/QUOTE]
Hmm. That's kinda funny, considering you just fucking stated that you're oblivious to the difference between the two.

In wake of your dodgey, smarmy-ass remark:

Gotta love the Internet. People think they can get away with double-talk.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Gotta love the internet. People can tell me what I did and didn't see.[/QUOTE]

Well then you did miss the point. Every year someone dies and people think it is funny to go as a dead person (I remember when Payne Stewart died people were going to go out with a golf club wrapped around their neck) and it isn't. It just makes people uncomfortable and people should pay respects to the dead not mock them because they died in a tragic manner. Of course South Park used humor to make the point, because if they did not it would have been untrue to the premise of the show.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Well then you did miss the point. Every year someone dies and people think it is funny to go as a dead person (I remember when Payne Stewart died people were going to go out with a golf club wrapped around their neck) and it isn't. It just makes people uncomfortable and people should pay respects to the dead not mock them because they died in a tragic manner. Of course South Park used humor to make the point, because if they did not it would have been untrue to the premise of the show.[/QUOTE]
Thank the heavens I wasn't the only one who saw that.

( I knew I couldn't have been. ;) )
 
[quote name='Brak']Hmm. That's kinda funny, considering you just fucking stated that you're oblivious to the difference between the two.

In wake of your dodgey, smarmy-ass remark:

Gotta love the Internet. People think they can get away with double-talk.[/quote]
Hold up.....I clearly mentioned that it's a double standard. I'm not taking anything away from what Steve Irwin did, but people are unfairly going after Maher like he killed somebody. The man dressed up in a costume for Halloween get over it. Insensitive, maybe; bad taste, probably; people crying over it, endless. It's a freaking costume for god's sake.

And thanks for indentifying my remarks as smarmy. I didn't think it was that, nor did I even attempt to make it seem Chuck Woolery-esque 9sp) but now I feel special that you Brak commented on my remark. Woo hoo! What did I do up until this point. And finally, what double-speak (not double-talk, though you can get off on a technicality) did I initiate. That South Park is allowed to do this, but yet when others do something similar they scream blasphemy? I would think that you Brak of all people (at least from your posts I have read) would see the double standard, the irony, that's laced in this controversy.

And finally, my point about the internet is that at some point those of us who are on the internet need to realize that we are wasting our time arguing over pointless shit and not actually doing something. I'm only on CAG or the internet at this point to simply pass the time or when I have nothing else to do at school or work. Arguing over stupid shit like this is not going to help the world, change it, or do anything for anyone. I doubt that anyone actually cares.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Well then you did miss the point. Every year someone dies and people think it is funny to go as a dead person (I remember when Payne Stewart died people were going to go out with a golf club wrapped around their neck) and it isn't. It just makes people uncomfortable and people should pay respects to the dead not mock them because they died in a tragic manner. Of course South Park used humor to make the point, because if they did not it would have been untrue to the premise of the show.[/quote]

Let's see people go as past dead presidents, etc. or the victim of some slasher flick and no one gets uncomfortable. It's just that everybody is up in arms because this is so near to his death. Personally people need to let go of the past and move on. And I'm done with this pointless discussion as I have work to do.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Hold up.....I clearly mentioned that it's a double standard. I'm not taking anything away from what Steve Irwin did, but people are unfairly going after Maher like he killed somebody. The man dressed up in a costume for Halloween get over it. Insensitive, maybe; bad taste, probably; people crying over it, endless. It's a freaking costume for god's sake.

And thanks for indentifying my remarks as smarmy. I didn't think it was that, nor did I even attempt to make it seem Chuck Woolery-esque 9sp) but now I feel special that you Brak commented on my remark. Woo hoo! What did I do up until this point. And finally, what double-speak (not double-talk, though you can get off on a technicality) did I initiate. That South Park is allowed to do this, but yet when others do something similar they scream blasphemy? I would think that you Brak of all people (at least from your posts I have read) would see the double standard, the irony, that's laced in this controversy.

And finally, my point about the internet is that at some point those of us who are on the internet need to realize that we are wasting are time arguing over pointless shit and not actually doing something. I'm only on CAG or the internet at this point to simply pass the time or when I have nothing else to do at school or work. Arguing over stupid shit like this is not going to help the world, change it, or do anything for anyone. I doubt that anyone actually cares.[/QUOTE]

Nice musings. However, and you can read Casey's post, my point is that what South Park did wasn't a double-standard. Much like everything South Park does, it was absolutely misunderstood, as they guise legitimately deep life lessons under a veil of irreverence.

Thus, not a double-standard, as both parties had a different intention.
 
[quote name='Brak']Nice musings. However, and you can read Casey's post to see my point on how what South Park did wasn't a double-standard. Much like everything South Park does, it was absolutely misunderstood, as they guise legitimately deep life lessons under a veil of irreverence.

Thus, not a double-standard, as both parties had a different intention.[/quote]
You're right....stupid costume versus stupid show that people intentionally over analyze to get some life lesson that they cannot get from doing good or looking into religion (i.e. buddhism, hinduism, etc.) (which I'm not really into, but you can see the morals that they teach and take that from it at least). Why don't you just go read a self-help book if you are looking for deep life lessons.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']I'm sure if Ali G, Dane Cook, Johnny Knoxville or someone similar who can do no wrong did this, no one would have a problem.[/quote]

That's bullshit. I dont' care who does it, it doesn't matter who it was. The fact is, doing that so soon after it happened makes it wrong. I love Ali G, but if he did that shit, i'd probably never watch his stuff ever again.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']You're right....stupid costume versus stupid show that people intentionally over analyze to get some life lesson that they cannot get from doing good or looking into religion (which I'm not really into, but you can see the morals that they teach and take that from it at least). Why don't you just go read a self-help book if you are looking for deep life lessons.[/QUOTE]
You just won the argument.

You're 100% correct, with that.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']That's bullshit. I dont' care who does it, it doesn't matter who it was. The fact is, doing that so soon after it happened makes it wrong. I love Ali G, but if he did that shit, i'd probably never watch his stuff ever again.[/quote]
Thanks for helping my point. Regardless of what you think of Maher, it isn't the fact that he did it as much as how soon after the incident. It could have been anyone dressing up like him and people would be up in arms not because of the costume, but how soon after his death. South Park does it and evidently it's allowed because that's what the premise of the show is so they are allowed to get away with it.
 
[quote name='usickenme']rolly eyes.. Just say you don't like Bill and be done.

"It's no TeH funny" has to be the lamest criticism leveled against a fucking halloween costume I've heard.[/QUOTE]

I don't like Bill but that has nothing to do with the fact that I still think it's a lame attempt at humor. He tried to be a funny smart ass by wearing this costume and probably expected everyone to chuckle and go "ohhh that's bad" when in reality he just came across as being an ass. He was trying to be funny, there's simply no other explanation. He wasn't making a social commentary, he wasn't trying to be intelligent, the costume was intended as a joke and it failed. Whether you find it offensive or not, I don't see how you can possibly say the thing is funny.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']Let's see people go as past dead presidents, etc. or the victim of some slasher flick and no one gets uncomfortable. It's just that everybody is up in arms because this is so near to his death. Personally people need to let go of the past and move on. And I'm done with this pointless discussion as I have work to do.[/QUOTE]

Victims of slasher flicks are fake people, and most people don't go as a president with a damn sting ray stinger sticking out from their gut. Honoring someone's legacy or how much of an asshole they are is part of what dressing up like a President is about (plus a lot of people probably saw point break). Dressing up as a real person who died tragically and then mocking the way they died is just wrong. You are right in saying that time does heal the pain, but this just happened a few weeks ago and it is not like Steve Irwin was some piece of shit. People loved him and idolized him for what he did in his conservation efforts and to prey on people loving someone just to get a cheap pop is wrong.

Also as brak pointed out, South Park is far from a stupid show. They may have dumb premises and dumb episodes, but the majority of episodes try and espouse some kind of virtue people should live by. I could rattle off numerous episodes where not lying, being true to yourself, standing up for what you believe in, etc. are all the underlying premises and the main point that is driven home but there are ten seasons and it would take way too much time. Let's just sum it up with there is a reason Kyle says "I learned something today" a lot.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Victims of slasher flicks are fake people, and most people don't go as a president with a damn sting ray stinger sticking out from their gut. Honoring someone's legacy or how much of an asshole they are is part of what dressing up like a President is about (plus a lot of people probably saw point break). Dressing up as a real person who died tragically and then mocking the way they died is just wrong. You are right in saying that time does heal the pain, but this just happened a few weeks ago and it is not like Steve Irwin was some piece of shit. People loved him and idolized him for what he did in his conservation efforts and to prey on people loving someone just to get a cheap pop is wrong.

Also as brak pointed out, South Park is far from a stupid show. They may have dumb premises and dumb episodes, but the majority of episodes try and espouse some kind of virtue people should live by. I could rattle off numerous episodes where not lying, being true to yourself, standing up for what you believe in, etc. are all the underlying premises and the main point that is driven home but there are ten seasons and it would take way too much time. Let's just sum it up with there is a reason Kyle says "I learned something today" a lot.[/quote]

Don't have any more time to waste for this thread, but here's what I wrote before:

[quote name='hiccupleftovers']You're right....stupid costume versus stupid show that people intentionally over analyze to get some life lesson that they cannot get from doing good or looking into religion (i.e. buddhism, hinduism, etc.) (which I'm not really into, but you can see the morals that they teach and take that from it at least). Why don't you just go read a self-help book if you are looking for deep life lessons.[/quote]
 
[quote name='Z-Saber']Didn't care for him before, care less now.

I'm absolutely not letting my mom find out about this. She had a fit when I told her Irwin died. She'd bust out and kill Maher if she knew.[/quote]

... how is this a bad thing? so your reason for not telling her is?
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']... how is this a bad thing? so your reason for not telling her is?[/quote]She'd be traumatized and murder someone?
 
So what if the sting ray was gone and he was just Steve Irwin? Can you portray the man at all or is it just the "death" part of it that is objectionable? How about if someone went as Cory Lidle?

Me personally, I don't see the big deal in all of it. I wanted to know the feelings of those who do find it in very poor taste. I don't think it was in the best taste, but being portrayed in ways you or your family may not like is part of being a celebrity in our society.
 
What exactly are deep life lessons? I don't see how adding the word deep in front of life lessons makes any difference or makes them more profound. Do things have to explicitly spelled out to be deep life lessons as you said people are over analyzing a dumb show and finding these answers in self-help books?

To me all it seems like you are wanting to do is hate on the show because you are missing the key point of the segment and feel that it is necessary to trash the show because you did.
 
[quote name='Brak']

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Guess what Bill Maher dressed up as for Halloween. If you guessed Steve Irwin you'd be correct. If you guessed 'asshole' you'd also be correct. In fact, that answer is acceptable any other time of the year as well. He doesn't even need to be in costume.[/quote]
:rofl:
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']What exactly are deep life lessons? I don't see how adding the word deep in front of life lessons makes any difference or makes them more profound. Do things have to explicitly spelled out to be deep life lessons as you said people are over analyzing a dumb show and finding these answers in self-help books?

To me all it seems like you are wanting to do is hate on the show because you are missing the key point of the segment and feel that it is necessary to trash the show because you did.[/QUOTE]

life lesson: don't stick a fork in the electrical outlet

deep life lesson: don't buy her a bunch of things if she ain't giving you any

Oh, hell...I'm just trying here.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']life lesson: don't stick a fork in the electrical outlet

deep life lesson: don't buy her a bunch of things if she ain't giving you any

Oh, hell...I'm just trying here.[/quote]

:rofl:
 
I'm sorry, but the Steve Irwin costume is pretty funny. Call me insensitive, but you knew the guy was going to get fatally attacked eventually, just so happened it was a sting ray. Go figure.
 
What I'm trying to figure out is this: did he color his hair as part of the costume, or was he trying to look under 70 to impress the bunnies?
 
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