I don't like to share my PS3!

[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']You mean people actually watch movies on their GAME systems? :roll::roll: I must be the only person who has owned multiple PS2's and currently has a PS3 and NOT ONCE did it even cross my mind to play a movie on something I bought to play games on.
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Many people bought PS3s to be a Blu-Ray player and nothing else. For a while, it was the best bargain for videophiles looking to go hi-def. So yes, people play movies on a GAME system. People are very happy to watch DVDs but if they see a stack of Blu-Rays, most will be curious to see what the fuss is all about. And I don't understand why you wouldn't watch one Blu-Ray on the PS3. Watching a couple movies on the PS3 won't cause it to shutdown and start acting crazy like a 360.

So back OTT, I suggest the OP start acting assertive in his own house or pack up the stuff until guests leave.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Many people bought PS3s to be a Blu-Ray player and nothing else. For a while, it was the best bargain for videophiles looking to go hi-def. So yes, people play movies on a GAME system. People are very happy to watch DVDs but if they see a stack of Blu-Rays, most will be curious to see what the fuss is all about. And I don't understand why you wouldn't watch one Blu-Ray on the PS3. Watching a couple movies on the PS3 won't cause it to shutdown and start acting crazy like a 360.

So back OTT, I suggest the OP start acting assertive in his own house or pack up the stuff until guests leave.[/quote]

I've seen at least one BR movie on my one friends' families' PS3, which he is always upstairs playing, but I can honestly say I was NOT impressed in the least. All that extra cost per movie and for what? A snazzier picture? :razz:

They have an HDtv, I don't. Either way, I wasn't impressed enough to shell out $20 or so PER movie even if I DID have an HDtv.

As long as I can find a tv with a digital tuner in it after Feb 2009, that's all that'll matter to me since I don't care about 'high def', since Comcast is pissin' me off and giving me some bs line about how I'll have to 'rent a box from them for $2 a month PER tv if I wanna keep watching crap soon after the switch to digital'.
 
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well theres your problem right there IATCG you watched spiderman 3 which just sucks ass. And i know people like you (for instance my dad, and to an extent my sister who "doesn't really see a difference between N64 and my 360) so i mean its all a personal thing, personally hi-def video is amazing, watch a recent movie (hopefully meaning it'll be a transfer) on dvd then blu-ray (with an HD-Tv and all the set-up) and then tell me you don't see a difference. you don't ahve to be a videophile to notice the amazing upgrade

P.S. i still love my dvds
 
IATCG. I've already said something about this but you bought nice chrome rims for a hoopty. Of course, Blu-Rays won't look better. Besides, this is CAG, you can find Blu-Rays for cheap. Hell, there's a used game store here in Indy that sells Blu-Rays for $10. I don't really understand your point thus far.
 
[quote name='Gumby the Green']well theres your problem right there IATCG you watched spiderman 3 which just sucks ass. And i know people like you (for instance my dad, and to an extent my sister who "doesn't really see a difference between N64 and my 360) so i mean its all a personal thing, personally hi-def video is amazing, watch a recent movie (hopefully meaning it'll be a transfer) on dvd then blu-ray (with an HD-Tv and all the set-up) and then tell me you don't see a difference. you don't ahve to be a videophile to notice the amazing upgrade

P.S. i still love my dvds[/quote]

You know of a store that sells BR movies for $3-5 each? That's my BUY price for movies now. If not, then I cannot be helped. I don't really care about the upgrade in picture, even if I had an HDtv it wouldn't matter to me unless the movies were the SAME damn price as the standard format.

I just DON'T see the need for the new format already, aside from their piracy concerns(which I understand them wanting to protect their IP's), but the price is ridiculous. I don't but a movie unless it's $3-5 PERIOD.
 
[quote name='elwood731']Why not just grow up? Seriously? Throwing a tantrum because your in-laws play with your toy?[/quote]

lol... that's an expensive toy.. he's justified if his in-laws are retarded and have a knack to mess things up
 
[quote name='depascal22']So back OTT, I suggest the OP start acting assertive in his own house or pack up the stuff until guests leave.[/quote]

I guess I don't really disagree with you.

I would say it involves a judgement. If the OP's guests' kids are angels and he wants to risk it, he can leave out the PS3. Otherwise it's easier to just pack it up and act like it doesn't exist. That way noone's feelings are hurt.

The way I see it, leaving a shiny new PS3 in front of a kid (esp if it has the type of games his mom has forbidden him from playing) is like leaving the house with a defrosting T-bone steak in reach of a dog. By virtue of their development they're operating at a lower and more error-prone level of moral reasoning, and I'd rather save my bargaining chips for more important battles (like no jumping on the beds and no shoes on the couch)

In my experience "being assertive" rarely works out the way you think it will, esp with family and/or houseguests.
 
[quote name='Paco']Yeah because a screen that says USERNAME and PASSWORD means it's broken? It should mean. YOU NEED ACCESS TO GET ON DIPSHIT.[/quote]

You'd be surprised how many people have no understanding what "username" and "password" mean on a screen. While I'm personally the type that likes to give people the benefit of the doubt, I also must acknowledge that the majority of people who use these electronics expect everything to "plug & play". If they've played a Playstation 3 before, and never saw a login screen on it, they may actually assume it's broken ("it doesn't normally display that screen; his PS3 must be fucked").

Personally, I'd say just remove your hard drive, provided you're pretty sure they won't have another one to plug in and format (thus making your old one useless without reformatting). Easiest way to disable a PS3 without rupturing any of it's functions or protocol.

[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']You know of a store that sells BR movies for $3-5 each? That's my BUY price for movies now. If not, then I cannot be helped. I don't really care about the upgrade in picture, even if I had an HDtv it wouldn't matter to me unless the movies were the SAME damn price as the standard format.

I just DON'T see the need for the new format already, aside from their piracy concerns(which I understand them wanting to protect their IP's), but the price is ridiculous. I don't but a movie unless it's $3-5 PERIOD.[/quote]

Piracy is the lowest concern on the BD side; each copy protection scheme they come up with is cracked (the latest was cracked in less then a week, iirc). Personally, I can't stand SD content on my HDTV, because it looks like shit. Everyone has been impressed by my BD movies, so I'd say there's a noticible quality difference. 7.1 sound is much better than 5.1 too, but most people don't bother going past 5.1, if they even do that (I'm still on 2.1, but I'm afraid upgrading will result in the police knocking on my door).

If you're only buying movies for $3-$5, you're probably not buying anything that's new (and if you are, they're probably bootleg or stolen :p). I haven't paid more than $15 for any of my Blu-rays yet, and that's very reasonable to me (though I haven't exactly been buying "new" movies, either).

I should also remind you that the PS3 supports AVCHD & h264...
 
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[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']You know of a store that sells BR movies for $3-5 each? That's my BUY price for movies now. If not, then I cannot be helped. I don't really care about the upgrade in picture, even if I had an HDtv it wouldn't matter to me unless the movies were the SAME damn price as the standard format.

I just DON'T see the need for the new format already, aside from their piracy concerns(which I understand them wanting to protect their IP's), but the price is ridiculous. I don't but a movie unless it's $3-5 PERIOD.[/quote]

Piracy is the lowest concern on the BD side; each copy protection scheme they come up with is cracked (the latest was cracked in less then a week, iirc). Personally, I can't stand SD content on my HDTV, because it looks like shit. Everyone has been impressed by my BD movies, so I'd say there's a noticible quality difference. 7.1 sound is much better than 5.1 too, but most people don't bother going past 5.1, if they even do that (I'm still on 2.1, but I'm afraid upgrading will result in the police knocking on my door).

If you're only buying movies for $3-$5, you're probably not buying anything that's new (and if you are, they're probably bootleg or stolen :p). I haven't paid more than $15 for any of my Blu-rays yet, and that's very reasonable to me (though I haven't exactly been buying "new" movies, either).

I should also remind you that the PS3 supports AVCHD & h264...
 
[quote name='elwood731']Why not just grow up? Seriously? Throwing a tantrum because your in-laws play with your toy?[/quote]

Would you let a 16 year old drive a '68 Mustang that you spent all summer fixing up? Why not? It's just a car. Don't be a big baby and give him the keys so he can wrap that bad boy around a phone pole.

Would you let your in-laws smoke in your home? Why not? Quit throwing that tantrum because they left a couple dime sized burn holes on your brand new couch and you house smells like an ashtray now. It's really what the guests want.

How about letting that brad brother-in-law of yours take some of your valuable baseball cards from the 1950s and put them on his bike so he can hear the whap whap whap as he goes down the street in style. It's really all about the kid's satisfaction isn't it?
 
[quote name='depascal22']Would you let a 16 year old drive a '68 Mustang that you spent all summer fixing up? Why not? It's just a car. Don't be a big baby and give him the keys so he can wrap that bad boy around a phone pole.

Would you let your in-laws smoke in your home? Why not? Quit throwing that tantrum because they left a couple dime sized burn holes on your brand new couch and you house smells like an ashtray now. It's really what the guests want.

How about letting that brad brother-in-law of yours take some of your valuable baseball cards from the 1950s and put them on his bike so he can hear the whap whap whap as he goes down the street in style. It's really all about the kid's satisfaction isn't it?[/QUOTE]

You're making a false analogy. The OP was complaining because he didn't like people touching his PS3 without asking his permission first. He sounds like a baby crying. If there's little kids then you tell their parents not to let them touch it. To go hide or unplug or fake it being broke is just being childish. Everyone jumps to the conclusion these must be kids just smashing the thing.

Basically, when you invite someone into your home you are inviting them to be "at home," especially with family. If you don't feel comfortable with that, then you shouldn't be inviting them. If they run through your home smashing things, then you tell them not to come back. Otherwise, you're kind of being a baby telling people not to touch your things. It's something that most people got over at 10 years old.

If you didn't, then it says a lot more about you than it does your house guests.
 
[quote name='Methadon']
Piracy is the lowest concern on the BD side; each copy protection scheme they come up with is cracked (the latest was cracked in less then a week, iirc). Personally, I can't stand SD content on my HDTV, because it looks like shit. Everyone has been impressed by my BD movies, so I'd say there's a noticible quality difference. 7.1 sound is much better than 5.1 too, but most people don't bother going past 5.1, if they even do that (I'm still on 2.1, but I'm afraid upgrading will result in the police knocking on my door).

If you're only buying movies for $3-$5, you're probably not buying anything that's new (and if you are, they're probably bootleg or stolen :p). I haven't paid more than $15 for any of my Blu-rays yet, and that's very reasonable to me (though I haven't exactly been buying "new" movies, either).

I should also remind you that the PS3 supports AVCHD & h264...[/quote]

Let me answer each of the points I highlighted in red, one at a time.

On the first point, I don't have an HDtv, I have an standard def Panasonic 20" tv. It works fine for my uses, so there's NO NEED to upgrade for me.

On the second point, I use the standard speakers that're on said SD tv for any sound, though I have heard and seen a PS3 played on an HDtv with surround sound speakers. For the added cost for both, it was NOT worth it imo.

On the third point, I almost always wait until Circuit City or Best Buy has a $3-5 movie sale(Circuit City ad from THIS week, $3.99 movie sale: http://circuitcity.shoplocal.com/ci...2397415&rapid=0&listingid=-2091287156&offerid=) and I will ON OCCASION buy a movie when they have it for a $9.99 movie sale.

Otherwise, aside from some exceptions(The Crow, Aqua Teen Hunger Force: Movie Film For Theaters and the original animated Transformers movie) I have not paid OVER $10 for ANY movie I own and ZERO of them are stolen or bootlegs. I actually took offense to the insinuation that they 'must be stolen' if I'm getting them that cheap.

Lastly, what the fuck is AVCHD & h264?? Seriously, if those terms are audio or videophile terminoloy, I doubt I'd EVER know wtf they mean. As long as the picture shows up on the screen and isn't messed up in any way, shape or form and I have sound, that's all that matters to me. I don't care if it's high def, low def, wide screen, full screen, purple screen, blue screen, etc, etc. As long as I can see the picture and it's clearly visible, who cares?
 
The people in here asking "why wouldn't you want them on your PS3" must not care much about their discs and accessories. Seriously. I trust nobody with handling my CD's/DVD's, because people just don't treat them with care (fingerprints/scratches/leaving them out).

Overwriting saves is also a troubling issue, especially with people that won't take the time to make a new account. ("I don't know how!")

I never deny access to my systems when I'm at my house/apartment, but when I'm away, I take care to make them unplayable (controllers put away, wires disconnected).

I actually wish systems had the ability to require an initial username/password, that limits access to the entire machine...like a PC, I suppose. I would love that.
 
[quote name='elwood731']You're making a false analogy. The OP was complaining because he didn't like people touching his PS3 without asking his permission first. He sounds like a baby crying. If there's little kids then you tell their parents not to let them touch it. To go hide or unplug or fake it being broke is just being childish. Everyone jumps to the conclusion these must be kids just smashing the thing.

Basically, when you invite someone into your home you are inviting them to be "at home," especially with family. If you don't feel comfortable with that, then you shouldn't be inviting them. If they run through your home smashing things, then you tell them not to come back. Otherwise, you're kind of being a baby telling people not to touch your things. It's something that most people got over at 10 years old.

If you didn't, then it says a lot more about you than it does your house guests.[/quote]

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[quote name='elwood731']You're making a false analogy. The OP was complaining because he didn't like people touching his PS3 without asking his permission first. He sounds like a baby crying. If there's little kids then you tell their parents not to let them touch it. To go hide or unplug or fake it being broke is just being childish. Everyone jumps to the conclusion these must be kids just smashing the thing.

Basically, when you invite someone into your home you are inviting them to be "at home," especially with family. If you don't feel comfortable with that, then you shouldn't be inviting them. If they run through your home smashing things, then you tell them not to come back. Otherwise, you're kind of being a baby telling people not to touch your things. It's something that most people got over at 10 years old.

If you didn't, then it says a lot more about you than it does your house guests.[/quote]


I'm not really making a false analogy. If your father-in-law was a huge car buff, would he be itching to check out your restored Mustang? Yes. Would he give two shits about a five year old Altima? No way. Would you allow someone to go joyriding in said Mustang while you were out at work? C'mon. You want them to feel at home right? Shouldn't a house guest whatever he wants just because he's your guest?

I used to be all about making people comfortable but then movies and CDs started coming up missing. I'd find puke in the closet because people were too drunk and stupid to find a toilet or the door outside. Oh, you wanted a cold beer after work? Sorry. Drank the last one two minutes ago but it was the fifth I had in the last hour so I puked it all up in your guest closet. My bad.

Not every guest is like that. Thing is, you don't find out until something very valuable comes up missing or broken. Then, you have to play the "Are you accusing me of stealing?" game that never gets resolved. It's always easy to tell people to leave after they've destroyed the place but do you have a couple hundred bucks to replace a PS3 every time crazy house guests come over? Isn't it easier to lay down the law or just put up the system? People might think you're immature but it's better than knowing they're too immature to replace what's broken and/or missing.
 
If my father-in-law was really into cars, then I would led him drive said Mustang. For example, I have a father-in-law who is really into Apple computers, and I've never had a problem with him fooling with my laptop (on the rare occasion when it is newer than his).

I also regularly lend out DVDs to family. If they don't return them, then they simply don't get anymore. If one turns up broken, I assume it's an accident. Things happen and a DVD is at most $20 or so. Same with a game. And I have a hard time believing people are breaking too many PS3s just from use without intentional abuse.

Hey, I agree with you that if people came into my home and smashed things I'd be upset. I'd simply not invite them back, even if it was my wife's family. Most people simply don't do things like that, though (outside of drunken college guys). And if you can't trust people in your home not to steal or break things, then you really shouldn't have them in your house.

Different outlook, I suppose.
 
[quote name='elwood731']If my father-in-law was really into cars, then I would led him drive said Mustang. For example, I have a father-in-law who is really into Apple computers, and I've never had a problem with him fooling with my laptop (on the rare occasion when it is newer than his).

I also regularly lend out DVDs to family. If they don't return them, then they simply don't get anymore. If one turns up broken, I assume it's an accident. Things happen and a DVD is at most $20 or so. Same with a game. And I have a hard time believing people are breaking too many PS3s just from use without intentional abuse.

Hey, I agree with you that if people came into my home and smashed things I'd be upset. I'd simply not invite them back, even if it was my wife's family. Most people simply don't do things like that, though (outside of drunken college guys). And if you can't trust people in your home not to steal or break things, then you really shouldn't have them in your house.

Different outlook, I suppose.[/quote]

Our outlooks aren't that different. I'm just more cynical at this point in my life.

I don't mind lending DVDs or games. Hell, half the time I just find another copy and give the person the game. It's much easier on family relations being the guy that hooks everyone up with games instead of being the guy that calls every day about returning a game. Even if I do lend a game and it's not returned, it's not a big deal. The $10-30 is easily made in an hour of work. I just get antsy when people are around things that cost the equivalent of a rent check or more.

Another part of this debate is respect given to someone. I don't know the OP but if he pays the rent and puts food on the table, he should be accorded at least a little respect. If I'm allowing you to stay in my house and eat my food, then it's courtesy to follow a couple guidelines just so there's no hard feelings down the road. I make sure that my guests are comfortable but I'm not going to go broke just to make them happy. I tell people three simple things when they stay at my place. Don't go in the Master Bedroom. Don't mess with the electronics if I'm not there. Leave at least one beer in the fridge for me or tell me we're out when I'm out at work or running errands. Haven't had any problems since.
 
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