I doubt anyone here cares, but is anyone seeing Hostel II?

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I'm probably the only person on the forum excited for it, but I just thought I'd ask. I've already got my tickets, and I cannot wait another minute for it.

I know a lot of you hated the first one, but check out some reviews of the second. Even people who hated the first movie gave the second a great review.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hostel_2/

(Urg, dropped to 62%)

(If you go to the forums, don't click any thread with a title similar to "Just watched it". It will be riddled with spoilers).
 
I am definitely seeing it. I've heard numerous reviews of this being better than the first.

For some reason sequels always seem to get a bad rap. Yet if you really take the time to examine the sequel, specifically as it implies to genre films in the Sci-Fi and Horror vein, more often than not the sequel is far superior, in terms of story, character development, gore and suspense/thrills, to the original. Of course a lot of sequels simply suck, too.

Trying to nail down why some sequels succeed and some fail is tough. One could say that some succeed due to the injection of new blood (different screenwriter, different director, different actors) which often brings a fresh, new approach to the familiar material. Yet just as many sequels done by the original team of creators have succeeded as those done by a new team and vice/versa. Basically, we could sit here and argue the merits of each for hours, but the simple fact remains, some sequels fare better because of new creative blood and others fair better thanks to old blood. You just never can tell.

With Hostel: Part II the original creator is back on tap. This would be director/screenwriter/producer Eli Roth, who has actually improved upon the first Hostel film, delivering more gore, but more importantly delivering a more streamlined, and dare I say, mature spin on the slasher genre. He joins the ranks of George Miller and Sam Raimi as a wild genre director who takes his initial concept and builds upon it, giving us more refined bits of the first film, but put through a meat grinder and made a bit more palpable. Hostel was ground chuck, Hostel: Part II is top sirloin.



To be quite frank, I was not a fan of Roth's first youth hostelling exploitationer, feeling that it was a little trite, a little forced, and basically hell-bent for providing shocks over substance. Needless to say when news of Hostel: Part II came down the pike I immediately went into cynical shock, thinking that Roth and company were just out to make another quick buck bringing some half-assed schlock and awe to the Cineplex in an attempt to further placate the masses with sub-standard horror fare. Watching the dismal Turistas recently didn't do much to assuage these fears.

Yet a surprising thing happened on the way to the house of slaughter: Roth completely upped his game, improved upon the original by leaps and bounds, and actually made a believer out of this crusty old nub. Following in the tradition of such classic sequels as The Devils Rejects, Evil Dead 2, and Road Warrior Roth wastes no time sinking into familiar territory, giving the audience a quick fix jolt of gore and suspense right out the gate. From there he shifts tones and goes straight to romantic Italy where three young ladies—the obnoxious hottie (Bijou Phillips), the cute and meek (Lauren German) and the geek (Heather Matarazzo) -- are studying abroad. Naturally they decide to take a break from school and head off to Prague for a weekend of debauchery. As can be expected, their plans shift a bit and they end up at everybody's favorite Slovakian hostel. You know what happens next…or at least you think you do.

Part of the allure of Hostel: Part II is that for most of the film you are fairly certain you know what's going to happen. When a hot foreign chick shows up and befriends the trio on their way to Prague you just know that she's part of the whole slaughterhouse cadre. Or is she? When hot Slovakian hunks pop up and begin to seduce members of the trio you just know that they're part of the bulldog tattoo posse. Or are they? Basically, Roth tosses so many red herrings at you and hopes that some of them stick and some flop away. The result is that he invariably and very slyly sucks you into a sense of familiarity that gives you a false sense of "Hey, I know what's going on." What ends up happening is that more often than not you are turned slightly on your head. Sure, a lot of what you guess will happen eventually does happen, but it's delivered in such a smooth manner that even when you've figured something out it doesn't feel like a letdown when it actually happens.



Conversely, all the twists and turns are logical. Never once do you go "WTF?" when something happens to a character. On this level Roth is near genius as all too often in these types of films there's a twist that makes nary a lick of sense no matter which way you slice and dice it. As with the original Hostel Roth tosses in little hidden verbal cues here and there which make watching the sequel very much like unfolding a psychotic cinematic version of Where's Waldo?, except the payoff is much, much, much bloodier and much, much, much more demented.

The other major tweak that Roth has done to this film is that he's more or less tossed any of the forced humor of past endeavors (think that over-the-top hillbilly shtick from Cabin Fever and the over-the-top street urchins from Hostel) to the wind, letting it flutter away in favor of more restrained and subtle (at least for Roth, which still isn't that subtle) asides of twisted wit. Granted, familiar characters are still in place delivering dry moment of goofiness (the desk clerk at the hostel, the devilish Our Gang orphans, etc.) that flow well within the context of the film and actually capture a much more accurate assimilation of those creepy Euro thrillers and chillers from the '60s and '70s with rich tongue-in-cheek appreciation.



Hostel: Part II isn't so much a horror film as it is a gore soaked thriller. In this way Roth has more or less done what James Cameron did with Aliens. Rather than remake the claustrophobic horror of Ridley Scott's Alien Cameron went straight for the gonads with an extreme action film. Here Roth has ditched the "horror" of the first film in favor of a more exact sense of modern noir and creepiness, serving up a disconcerting slow burn instead of a mallet-to-the-head shocker (don't get me wrong, there's still plenty of shocking gore in Hostel: Part II, it just comes in spaced out waves). The bottomline with this sequel is such: any horror flick steeped in Giallo tradition (with slight forays into the whole Spanish/West German lesbian vampire sub-genre) that brings Dawn Weiner back from the dead only to get sliced and diced in some over-the-top Grand Guignol fashion is pretty damn bueno; in a sick-and-twisted sort of way, mind you, but damn bueno all the same.
 
I'm going to go see it. I actually liked the first. Then again, most movies I like, everybody hates.

Sometimes it's nice disconnect the brain for a couple of hours. There's enough going on up there the rest of the day.
 
I'll probably be seeing it tomorrow at midnight. Most of my friends are playing the "disturbing" card, but its just a movie. And to the guy abouve, youre right. It is a relief to diconnect the brain from the stress we go through. Nothing better than just zoning out for a couple hours.
 
Definitely seeing it, although finding people to go with is gonna be a pain in the ass. I enjoyed the first one (a bit disappointing though), so I'm definitely looking forward to this.
 
I enjoyed the first Hostel and will be seeing Part II on Monday.

I've heard good things about Part II so hopefully it lives up to expectations.
 
Second one is definitely better. It's mainly because they got better actors and the pacing is infinitely better. And the fact that it looks like they got someone to do the actual lighting helps as well.

This is not just 'torture porn', which in effect makes it even harder to watch. I mean the fucking character work is very good for what a film like this 'should' be and it just adds to the suspense.
 
I have been looking forward to seeing this since I first caught wind of it awhile back. I plan on seeing it if there is a midnight showing around here and I loved the first one.

My girlfriend loved the first one to, so we are really pumped for seeing this if not tomorrow, then Friday for sure.
 
No, I'll probably rent it on DVD

You people are fucked up for enjoying movies like this and Saw and such though, they're disturbing as hell (though hard to stop watching). If you watch something like this, it should be alone and ashamed, with feelings of guilt and puke in your throat

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I hated hated hated hated the first Hostel. It wasn't a horror movie. It was a porno.

Still...I never learn my lesson and will probably end up seeing this
 
it's suck but at least you will see the guy from the first movie again. Oh well but he die anyway early in the movie. ^__^;
 
[quote name='nonggame']it's suck but at least you will see the guy from the first movie again. Oh well but he die anyway early in the movie. ^__^;[/quote]
It did not suck. If you go in expecting a wall to wall bloodbath, you're going to be let down. If expect some character work however, you will be pleased.
 
[quote name='d00k']I don't know about anyone else, but I personally cannot wait to see the story following the two torturers. I can't imagine what they've cooked up.[/quote]
Don't expect much. I've seen it, and for a film that runs an hour and thirty three minutes, their isn't room for much backstory. :)
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Don't expect much. I've seen it, and for a film that runs an hour and thirty three minutes, their isn't room for much backstory. :)[/quote]
I mostly just want to see what the timid one ends up doing.

How did you see it already? Bootleg?
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']It did not suck. If you go in expecting a wall to wall bloodbath, you're going to be let down. If expect some character work however, you will be pleased.[/QUOTE]
WTH, it's the same thing all over again, but this time it 3 American girls. Same old trick, nothing new >< . The ending is such a joke.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Don't expect much. I've seen it, and for a film that runs an hour and thirty three minutes, their isn't room for much backstory. :)[/QUOTE]
Since you've already seen it, is it a porno like the first one or is it actually a horror movie?
 
I'm not planning to see Hostel 2 because the first one was such a boring piece of shit.

Shitty softcore porn mixed with shitty torture scenes mixed with great location mixed with horrible thriller/revenge exploitation film.

Unless there is a huge jump in quality, I doubt I'll ever get around to seeing it.
 
[quote name='whoknows']Since you've already seen it, is it a porno like the first one or is it actually a horror movie?[/quote]
No porno this time. Only one death scene can be considered porno, and it wasn't even that intense. The ending made sense as to how the characters were built and what the Hostel/Factory is all about.

All together, there is more time spent talking about what the hell is going on compared to actual deaths and what not. It's more of a thriller film with a few gorey scenes thrown in, perhaps ala Hannibal, than the original Hostel. A better way to put is that you won't feel dirty after watching this.

And thinking about it, the first one was WAY more violent. Take your girlfriend to see it because she'll probably end up liking it more than you, if only for the ending.

[quote name='Sporadic']I'm not planning to see Hostel 2 because the first one was such a boring piece of shit.

Shitty softcore porn mixed with shitty torture scenes mixed with great location mixed with horrible thriller/revenge exploitation film.

Unless there is a huge jump in quality, I doubt I'll ever get around to seeing it.[/quote]
I think that has less to do with Hostel 2 and more to do with you being a jerk. You're just looking to shit over anything and everything you can because it makes you feel better. Anyone else could say they didn't like it and I'll accept that. You're basically reviewing a film you haven't seen. Go watching fucking Mary Poppins if make you feel better.
 
Didn't even really like the first, but I'll probably see it. Friend of mine is very excited and he wants to go before he leaves for Germany (Monday).
 
Trust me the formula for 2 is the same as one so if you loved the first one you will go nuts for the second one. The one part I really hate is the tie to the first one, I will not spoil it like some other dicks here.
 
The 1st is one of my favorite movies. I didn't even know the 2nd one was coming out this friday until I read the paper this morning. I'll be seeing it this weekend for sure. The fact that I just found out it's getting good reviews has just made me even more excited.
 
i skip it. not worth 10 bucks . It be out on DVD soon enough

I was hoping to go see it when it first had a Jan 2007 date BUT i no longer care about it (sounds they took all the gore out of it. So no reason to see it)
 
[quote name='nonggame']it's suck but at least you will see the guy from the first movie again. Oh well but he die anyway early in the movie. ^__^;[/quote]Good God man, where's teh spoiler tags.
 
How do people think that "Hostel" was a porno? Two different girls showed their tits, and then were filmed in a very weak sex scene with the main characters of the movie.

Have these people never seen real porn?:roll:
 
I could never watch a movie like this - I watched seven when it came out, and that was the last gory horror terror movie I ever want to see.

I'll stick with The Ring, The Shining, The Sixth Sense etc thanks alot.

I will, however, read the spoiler for sure :D
 
[quote name='d00k']I'm probably the only person on the forum excited for it, but I just thought I'd ask. I've already got my tickets, and I cannot wait another minute for it.

I know a lot of you hated the first one, but check out some reviews of the second. I haven't seen a single bad review so far. Even people who hated the first movie gave the second a great review.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hostel_2/

(If you go to the forums, don't click any thread with a title similar to "Just watched it". It will be riddled with spoilers).[/quote]

What is that pic in your sig?
 
[quote name='camoor']What is that pic in your sig?[/quote]
That's a still from the movie.

[quote name='seanr1221']This should go well with Manhunt 2.[/quote]
Hellz yeah.

*EDIT*

Yuck, I sure hope this changes.
 
[quote name='d00k']That's a still from the movie.


Hellz yeah.

*EDIT*

Yuck, I sure hope this changes.[/quote]
That rotten score is pretty good considering its a horror movie.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']I think that has less to do with Hostel 2 and more to do with you being a jerk. You're just looking to shit over anything and everything you can because it makes you feel better. Anyone else could say they didn't like it and I'll accept that. You're basically reviewing a film you haven't seen. Go watching fucking Mary Poppins if make you feel better.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, I just get a big hard on dumping on Hostel and your crappy rip off....hold on what

[quote name='Scrubsy']Trust me the formula for 2 is the same as one so if you loved the first one you will go nuts for the second one. The one part I really hate is the tie to the first one, I will not spoil it like some other dicks here.[/QUOTE]

Imagine that, Hostel 2 is just like Hostel 1 except with girls playing the part of unlikeable bastards.

Why would I waste money to see that when it's a rehash of a movie I hate?

And my dislike for it has nothing to do with it's violence. A movie just has to bring more to the table then "look how sadistic I am/check out these tits"
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Oh yeah, I just get a big hard on dumping on Hostel and your crappy rip off....hold on what

Imagine that, Hostel 2 is just like Hostel 1 except with girls playing the part of unlikeable bastards.

Why would I waste money to see that when it's a rehash of a movie I hate?

And my dislike for it has nothing to do with it's violence. A movie just has to bring more to the table then "look how sadistic I am/check out these tits"[/quote]
All I'm saying is you come across as a super angry sissy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Sporadic fears Hostel.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']All I'm saying is you come across as a super angry sissy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Sporadic fears Hostel.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, not everybody can be ultra edgy/creative like you and come up with stories about hillbillies dragging people through the woods by their intestines and slicing people up with chainsaws.

fuck if only I wasn't such a bitch and had the brain power to come up with a creative pseudonym like Zen Davis, I would be a millionaire!
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']I think I might attack some neighborhood squirrels with a BBQ fork instead.[/quote]

The fuck?

*declares thread an all out brawl*
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Yeah, not everybody can be ultra edgy/creative like you and come up with stories about hillbillies dragging people through the woods by their intestines and slicing people up with chainsaws.

fuck if only I wasn't such a bitch and had the brain power to come up with a creative pseudonym like Zen Davis, I would be a millionaire![/quote]

Sporadic still fears Hostel.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Sporadic still fears Hostel.[/QUOTE]

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[quote name='crazytalkx']Yeah, and that's where I'm taking a girl for our first date :lol:[/QUOTE]

Be careful, it may give her some ideas.

somebody gets their penis cut off

:lol:
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Be careful, it may give her some ideas.

somebody gets their penis cut off

:lol:[/QUOTE]

OH SHI-
 
[quote name='crazytalkx']OH SHI-[/quote]
Yeah...
there's a full frontal castration towards the end.

And from what I've heard so far, not a moment of it is left to the imagination.
[quote name='dastly75']The fuck?

*declares thread an all out brawl*[/quote]
Don't worry. I actually thought that was pretty funny.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Be careful, it may give her some ideas.

somebody gets their penis cut off

:lol:[/quote]

That did that in a scene from "I Spit on Your Grave". Pretty crazy stuff.
 
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