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Oh, thanks Moxio I didn't know that. It's 36-41 MPG. It was a good price Kube hehe, I don't like mentioning what I paid for stuff over $1k.
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[quote name='Caliburn']Hm, tons of Ford bashing.
I have a 1994 Ford Probe SE at 131000 miles and it's still running great. Although, it is essentially a Mazda under the hood.[/QUOTE]
You know not to hijack Avid, but the Ford bashing got completely out of hand here and I figured I would psot this up, I believe it was released in Mid April.
Ford Quality Equals Toyota!!!
Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News
In survey of 31,000 new vehicle owners, Ford beats industry average for problems. The 2007 Mercury Milan was one of the most problem-free vehicles from any manufacturer, with just 910 issues reported per 1,000 vehicles. In terms of initial vehicle quality, Ford Motor Co. is in a statistical dead-heat for second place with Japan's Toyota Motor Corp. and Nissan Motor Co., according to a new study the Dearborn automaker plans to release today. Honda Motor Co. is the quality leader.
: The report is based on an annual survey of 31,000 new vehicle owners that was conducted for Ford by the RDA Group, a market research firm based in Bloomfield Hills. The study evaluated 2007 model cars and trucks from all full-line manufacturers and asked drivers to list any problems they had encountered during their first 90 days of ownership.
The Detroit News reviewed the findings with sources familiar with the report. These sources said four Ford vehicles -- the Mercury Milan, Ford Shelby GT-500, Ford Expedition EL and Lincoln Navigator -- led their segments in initial quality. Improving quality is a major goal for Ford, which is struggling to hold on to what remains of its U.S. market share after years of losses to foreign competitors. The RDA study found Ford cars and trucks had 1,458 problems per 1,000 vehicles -- 32 fewer problems than the industry average of 1,490 and 128 fewer than Ford customers reported last year.
The results were even better for Ford's North American brands -- Ford, Lincoln and Mercury -- which combined had 1,456 problems per 1,000 vehicles. Sources said the overall number was slightly hurt by the automaker's European brands. The Milan was one of the most problem-free vehicles from any manufacturer, with just 910 issues reported per 1,000 vehicles. Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari confirmed the existence of the report, but would not discuss the findings. She said the company will release the details today, but wanted to tell employees first. She said improving quality is a central aim of the company's Way Forward turnaround plan.
"We are pleased with the direction of our quality, but we're not satisfied," Gattari said. "This is something we have to continue to be diligent with. Quality, along with safety, innovation and design, are our top priorities in delivering more vehicles that customers want."
Consumers need convincing
While the RDA study found that Ford has closed the quality gap with its Japanese rivals, it also found the company still lags its Asian competitors in customer satisfaction and another key metric: whether or not customers would recommend the brand to other car buyers.
RDA has been conducting the annual survey for Ford since the late 1990s. The marketing firm conducts similar studies for other automakers, and its findings have historically hewed close to those of the closely-watched annual initial quality survey independently conducted by J.D. Power and Associates of Westlake Village, Calif.
Most of Ford's brands lagged well behind Toyota in last year's J.D. Power study, but those results reflected a new survey methodology the firm adopted for 2006.
Other independent a n a lysts have also noted a marked improvement in Ford's quality in recent years -- most notably Consumer Reports magazine, which recently declared the Milan and its Blue Oval sibling, the Ford Fusion, the most impressive new vehicles of the 2007 model year.
"We see Ford as the top domestic in many ways," said David Champion, senior director for automotive testing at Consumer Reports. "They've realized they're going to be eaten for lunch if they don't produce reliable vehicles."
Champion said Ford's newer products show a marked improvement over those the automaker was turning out just a few years ago. He said the company has learned from past mistakes as well as from its Japanese affiliate, Mazda Motor Corp., which shares many common production practices with Toyota.
I have a 1994 Ford Probe SE at 131000 miles and it's still running great. Although, it is essentially a Mazda under the hood.[/QUOTE]
You know not to hijack Avid, but the Ford bashing got completely out of hand here and I figured I would psot this up, I believe it was released in Mid April.
Ford Quality Equals Toyota!!!
Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News
In survey of 31,000 new vehicle owners, Ford beats industry average for problems. The 2007 Mercury Milan was one of the most problem-free vehicles from any manufacturer, with just 910 issues reported per 1,000 vehicles. In terms of initial vehicle quality, Ford Motor Co. is in a statistical dead-heat for second place with Japan's Toyota Motor Corp. and Nissan Motor Co., according to a new study the Dearborn automaker plans to release today. Honda Motor Co. is the quality leader.
: The report is based on an annual survey of 31,000 new vehicle owners that was conducted for Ford by the RDA Group, a market research firm based in Bloomfield Hills. The study evaluated 2007 model cars and trucks from all full-line manufacturers and asked drivers to list any problems they had encountered during their first 90 days of ownership.
The Detroit News reviewed the findings with sources familiar with the report. These sources said four Ford vehicles -- the Mercury Milan, Ford Shelby GT-500, Ford Expedition EL and Lincoln Navigator -- led their segments in initial quality. Improving quality is a major goal for Ford, which is struggling to hold on to what remains of its U.S. market share after years of losses to foreign competitors. The RDA study found Ford cars and trucks had 1,458 problems per 1,000 vehicles -- 32 fewer problems than the industry average of 1,490 and 128 fewer than Ford customers reported last year.
The results were even better for Ford's North American brands -- Ford, Lincoln and Mercury -- which combined had 1,456 problems per 1,000 vehicles. Sources said the overall number was slightly hurt by the automaker's European brands. The Milan was one of the most problem-free vehicles from any manufacturer, with just 910 issues reported per 1,000 vehicles. Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari confirmed the existence of the report, but would not discuss the findings. She said the company will release the details today, but wanted to tell employees first. She said improving quality is a central aim of the company's Way Forward turnaround plan.
"We are pleased with the direction of our quality, but we're not satisfied," Gattari said. "This is something we have to continue to be diligent with. Quality, along with safety, innovation and design, are our top priorities in delivering more vehicles that customers want."
Consumers need convincing
While the RDA study found that Ford has closed the quality gap with its Japanese rivals, it also found the company still lags its Asian competitors in customer satisfaction and another key metric: whether or not customers would recommend the brand to other car buyers.
RDA has been conducting the annual survey for Ford since the late 1990s. The marketing firm conducts similar studies for other automakers, and its findings have historically hewed close to those of the closely-watched annual initial quality survey independently conducted by J.D. Power and Associates of Westlake Village, Calif.
Most of Ford's brands lagged well behind Toyota in last year's J.D. Power study, but those results reflected a new survey methodology the firm adopted for 2006.
Other independent a n a lysts have also noted a marked improvement in Ford's quality in recent years -- most notably Consumer Reports magazine, which recently declared the Milan and its Blue Oval sibling, the Ford Fusion, the most impressive new vehicles of the 2007 model year.
"We see Ford as the top domestic in many ways," said David Champion, senior director for automotive testing at Consumer Reports. "They've realized they're going to be eaten for lunch if they don't produce reliable vehicles."
Champion said Ford's newer products show a marked improvement over those the automaker was turning out just a few years ago. He said the company has learned from past mistakes as well as from its Japanese affiliate, Mazda Motor Corp., which shares many common production practices with Toyota.
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[quote name='Snake2715']You know not to hijack Avid, but the Ford bashing got completely out of hand here and I figured I would psot this up, I believe it was released in Mid April.
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Not a problem. Since I'm having problems posting on an Echo forum I guess I'll ask here for now. Anything I can do to keep my car or more specific the engine in good shape? Penzoil? I'm not a car guy, at least not before so I know jack squat.
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Not a problem. Since I'm having problems posting on an Echo forum I guess I'll ask here for now. Anything I can do to keep my car or more specific the engine in good shape? Penzoil? I'm not a car guy, at least not before so I know jack squat.
after reading through im surprised that no-one has yet to mention the diesel powered jetta that v-dub has. my father has an 02 tdi taht he literally drove into the ground getting about 49 Mpg. hes on the reserve list alrdy to get the new 08 model thats supposed to get ~65mpg. you pay more for diesel gas but the mileage difference is huge.
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[quote name='Day1221']after reading through im surprised that no-one has yet to mention the diesel powered jetta that v-dub has. my father has an 02 tdi taht he literally drove into the ground getting about 49 Mpg. hes on the reserve list alrdy to get the new 08 model thats supposed to get ~65mpg. you pay more for diesel gas but the mileage difference is huge.[/quote]
Well around me Diesel is $4.69 a gallon lol so that would not even be a thought.
Well around me Diesel is $4.69 a gallon lol so that would not even be a thought.
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definitely dont get why people say that...gas is 4.10 here and diesel is pushing 5$. If diesel is getting you 15+ more mpg then what the big deal about another dollar. Your going way further on a tank and in end up at the pump less often.[/quote]
Im just saying it may pay if your driving alot but lets say that has a 12.5 gallon tank like the average tossing out $60 for gas is alot up front and even my 05' Grand Prix GT costs me close to $50 to fill up and thats on regular unleaded. I was just saying the overall up front cost.
It is similar to a Ford focus I was reading about that was a turbo diesel that got 100+ miles per gallon and they have them in Canada but will not release them here.
Just like today reading about the price of the barrel of oil dropping but the prices at the pump keep going up.......
I Think im going to have to stimulate the oil industry if I ever get my Stimulus check and just use it for gas.
definitely dont get why people say that...gas is 4.10 here and diesel is pushing 5$. If diesel is getting you 15+ more mpg then what the big deal about another dollar. Your going way further on a tank and in end up at the pump less often.[/quote]
Im just saying it may pay if your driving alot but lets say that has a 12.5 gallon tank like the average tossing out $60 for gas is alot up front and even my 05' Grand Prix GT costs me close to $50 to fill up and thats on regular unleaded. I was just saying the overall up front cost.
It is similar to a Ford focus I was reading about that was a turbo diesel that got 100+ miles per gallon and they have them in Canada but will not release them here.
Just like today reading about the price of the barrel of oil dropping but the prices at the pump keep going up.......
I Think im going to have to stimulate the oil industry if I ever get my Stimulus check and just use it for gas.
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