I hate Itunes

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So my sister bought me an ipod, I install Itunes, and it re-sorts all my music folders.

OK I'm now held hostage by ITunes but eventually I got used to it. Now with the latest upgrade it starts moving new songs to those shitty deep level Windows User folders. I reset the folder to the one of my choice and now it won't move my new music files into artist/album folders.

fuck you Apple.
 
My friend gave up on Apple and Itunes and bought a Zume instead because of the same reasons why you hate Itunes.
 
Thanks for the heads up. I've been thinking about getting an ipod touch but I absolutely hate software that doesn't let you put music exactly where you want it to go.

I currently have an 80 gb zune and the software just screws with the arrangement too much. It has literally put hundreds of tracks in the unknown folder, everything from classical music to radio shows.

I also have a Sandisk Sansa Fuse which does have drag and drop but tdoes some baffling things with the arrangement also. With some albums it puts random letters and numbers in front of the names of folders and tracks, which you can not simply rename because it just adds them again. It also screws with the folders themselves. The way I like to arrange folders is by the name of the artist and then add that artists albums in that one folder. Well I tried that and sometimes it rearranges several artists in one folder and changes the names of all the folders to New Folder.

The best software I've come across is the one for Creative products. It lets you put stuff exactly where you want without any issues and without having a permament library on one harddrive. Unfortunatley I sold off my Zen Vision M.

My next mp3 player is definitely going to be a Creative one. Im just waiting for the ones I have too die off.
 
I just set up my own folders and move music around accordingly. I used to use itunes back when it first came out, and got sick of it fairly quickly.
 
[quote name='wildcpac']My friend gave up on Apple and Itunes and bought a Zume instead because of the same reasons why you hate Itunes.[/QUOTE]

ha you said Zume.
 
Im fine with itunes. I told it not to control my music and I have it all set up myself no problems. Instead of bitching about it, why dont you try looking at the options it gives you which would probably solve your issue.
 
When you install it uncheck the button that says Let Itunes organize your music.....

Do not get a Zune if you don't want to get pissed off. The software is absolutely terrible
 
My music was already organized and I didn't let itunes fuck with it. I don't particularly like itunes either, but not for that reason.
 
[quote name='slickkill77']When you install it uncheck the button that says Let Itunes organize your music.....

Do not get a Zune if you don't want to get pissed off. The software is absolutely terrible[/QUOTE]

I actually preferred the Zune software to Itunes, but overall, they both suck.
 
iTunes default install option is to NOT sort music, you actually have to go out of your way to ignore the description and check "Automatically Sort My Music"

Don't blame iTunes for user error.

That being said I agree I don't like iTunes either.
 
I hate, hate Itunes with a passion. It's the worst fucking piece of software ever created/written. It trumps IE 6 and anything else I can think of or imagine. Pain in the piece of shit. I've just barely gotten to the point where I can tolerate it. My next mp3 player is going to be a Zune without a doubt. My friend has one, which he let me play around with for some time, and I really liked it infinitely more than my Ipod/Itunes. Employing Itunes on its users by Apple is pure sadism.
 
amen, BigPopovPump. I love iTunes, though.[quote name='camoor']So my sister bought me an ipod, I install Itunes, and it re-sorts all my music folders.

OK I'm now held hostage by ITunes but eventually I got used to it. Now with the latest upgrade it starts moving new songs to those shitty deep level Windows User folders. I reset the folder to the one of my choice and now it won't move my new music files into artist/album folders.

fuck you Apple.[/QUOTE]It's your own fault for not unchecking the box where it finds all of your shit and sorts it. (There's a box for that, right? Cause I added all my shit on my own and never had that problem.)
 
That being said, I've never gotten into messing around with alternatives for iTunes for my nano. What are you people using?
 
[quote name='BigPopov']iTunes default install option is to NOT sort music, you actually have to go out of your way to ignore the description and check "Automatically Sort My Music"

Don't blame iTunes for user error.

That being said I agree I don't like iTunes either.[/QUOTE]

I was trying to fix another bug where Itunes couldn't find some of the tunes and the help I googled said I had to do a temp "automatically sort the music". Also you click that button and there's no fucking going back. I had planned on unchecking it once Itunes got back on track - and for backup I saved my current mp3 and mp3 dir configuration in another folder, I didn't expect Itunes to be so viral. Itunes hunted out my backup dir out and resorted it as well without even asking me (adding a bunch of dupes that it's too stupid to realize are dupes).

Apple (and Microsoft for that matter) punish the user who wants to customize their experience. All sorts of errors crop up and the help always says "why don't you let our software take everything out of your hands". As soon as you need to troubleshoot or want to explore options you're fucked. It's like falling down the rabbit hole.

Everyone said Itunes was awesome so I guess I had bought into the hype. I thought this thing would impress me, making me feel it read my mind. It's mediocre at best.
 
[quote name='camoor']
Everyone said Itunes was awesome so I guess I had bought into the hype. I thought this thing would impress me, making me feel it read my mind. It's mediocre at best.[/QUOTE]

first, I've seen a lot more itunes hate than love on the internet. Also, it "reads your mind" by organizing everything by artist in an itunes music folder. from then on, all you need to do is either drop albums in the artist's folder or into the "Automatically add to itunes" folder. And you check music you want on your ipod or uncheck it if you don't. Pretty damn simple.

It doesn't read the minds of people who have weird archiving styles or who want to control itunes every step of the way. It doesn't anticipate the .00005% of its users who have their mp3s arranged by hash check numbers and hue of the album cover in the subdirectories on a remote raid server in Mexico.
 
iTunes has never really bothered me. I've used it for years despite not having an iPod until a couple months ago.

I've never had it move my stuff around. My music is in a "My Music" folder with folders for each Artist in it and each album of theirs under those folders. It was that way before and after using iTunes.

Only issue I've had is having to retag compilation albums after importing say a soundtrack CD to keep them in one place rather than getting the songs in each artists folder or in a compilations area etc.

Where I do hate iTunes is for the iPad. My girlfriend has one, and while iTunes is fine for musics and movies, it's not good for apps, documents, photos etc. It just wasnt' designed for that and they haven't tweaked it enough to make it work. Though part of that is just the lack of a file system on the iPhone/iPad OS. It's a pain when you drag say a PDF into one PDF reader apps file sharing area in iTunes, but then it's only accessible to that app and not any other PDF reader/annotation programs you have.
 
[quote name='ninja dog']first, I've seen a lot more itunes hate than love on the internet. Also, it "reads your mind" by organizing everything by artist in an itunes music folder. from then on, all you need to do is either drop albums in the artist's folder or into the "Automatically add to itunes" folder. And you check music you want on your ipod or uncheck it if you don't. Pretty damn simple.

It doesn't read the minds of people who have weird archiving styles or who want to control itunes every step of the way. It doesn't anticipate the .00005% of its users who have their mp3s arranged by hash check numbers and hue of the album cover in the subdirectories on a remote raid server in Mexico.[/QUOTE]
:applause:

iTunes keeps all of my shit organized and looks sexy doing it.
 
I have been using iTunes recently and I enjoy it. It keeps my Music, Podcasts, and Video organized nice and easily. I still buy CDs however, and rip them into MP3s rather than buy MP3s on iTunes or Amazon.
 
I have never liked iTunes. And had to do a manual transition of several GBs of data. It's a very painful process. If you have any direction on what you want to do with it, it'll fight, and it will not do what you want it to do.

I don't like the software at all, but for anyone that doesn't want any control to it, it works slick.
 
I owned Sandisk Sansa, Original Zune, and iPhone and I still prefer the Sansa's interface. It is like a usb drive you can copy and play.
 
Wow. Some of you act like itunes raped your sister and took a shit on you when you were sleeping. Its not that bad. Yes it is slow and has a lot of unnecessary shit but it at least detects all of your music and is easy to use. It almost seems like people hate it in the same way people hate on MS's operating systems or Halo. They do it just because its cool and different. At least give a viable reason as to why you hate it.

The zune software of the other hand is so bad its not even funny. It doesn't even detect all of your music. And the music it does detect probably won't end up on your zune. I have all 4,200+ songs tagged and they are all in mp3 format in the same "Music" folder and the Zune software still couldn't detect them all. It detected about 4,000 of them. Then it put about 3,900 on the actual Zune itself.
 
I don't keep my music on my PC but as of late I have because I have been to lazy to delete it. However the thing I hate is when I put my iPod on shuffle it plays everything. So if I have some comedy or an audio book it will play that with my music. I would think I could correct this issue but I have not played with it that much. Also if I have one cd that has other artists on it iTunes lists each song with the other artist but it does not get put with that album. I know I can put it with a compalation(SP?) but that just fucked everything up when I last did that.
 
[quote name='slickkill77']When you install it uncheck the button that says Let Itunes organize your music.....[/QUOTE]
This.
 
Seeing as how I don't ever leave the comfort of my well, I don't have an MP3 player. I just keep all of my J-Pop and video game themes organized on my external HDD. They are organized into many categories and I'm afraid itunes would ruin that for me.
 
I hated iTunes when i started using it. But I've grown to love it so much I shitcanned Winamp (pretty much because AOL ran that program into the ground) and you couldn't pay me to use that piece of shit Windows Media Player for anything other than watching porn vids.

It does suck that there are too many unnecessary background processes (ituneshelper.exe, etc.) but I really don't play games on my PC anymore and have 2GB of RAM anyway. So it doesn't bother me too much. Other programs that run background processes piss me off more. Like Java Update Scheduler and the various Windows Media Player related processes.

[quote name='sendme']However the thing I hate is when I put my iPod on shuffle it plays everything. So if I have some comedy or an audio book it will play that with my music. I would think I could correct this issue but I have not played with it that much.[/QUOTE]

Don't use Shuffle. Use Smart Playlists. Then you could create one that excludes genres you don't like, and have the default iPod shuffling mix it up for you. Smart Playlists are a godsend when you have 4,500+ songs. You can even go crazy and add tags to your MP3's comment tag, like "beer drinking music" and create a Smart Playlist that just grabs those songs.
 
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