I hope you're happy...

LOL what kind of thread is this, so gay. "Mama with a baby carriage" or some crap was said in the first post. Well if that Mama hadn't raised such spoiled kids or just told her kids NO when they whined about getting a PS3, she wouldn't need to be standing out there. And those who shot and hurt others for a PS3 were in there for the money, so would it matter if someone who bought the PS3 to sell it or someone who bought it to play had actually gotten the PS3? No they'd be robbed either way. What a screwball thread.
 
[quote name='anomynous']this is a PATHETIC thread, TC, if someone wants to sell their PS3, they can. Stop crying about it[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind you're dealing with pissed off Sony fanboys jealous that they couldn't get their hands on the console because they showed up too late to the store. There is no place for rationality/common sense in this thread.
 
wow, TC, please never post again. Seriously, this is a laughable thread. Its their system, they will do what they want to do with it. no need to whine all because you couldnt get a ps3
 
[quote name='jalu6']Ugh. Great. Now you are going to have to make me teach a class. I'll try not to go too far over the head of some grunt who can't keep straight the number of teeth he has.

Yes, I've heard of supply and demand, but as I've said, I really don't give a shit what you do with the PS3s that you have acquired. If I was walking out of my office and saw one sitting on the sidewalk, I would probably pick it up and sell it also. However, that is not going to happen. Getting a PS3 takes effort, which brings me to what Economics is really about. Scarcity. The study of finite resources and how they are distributed.

In your case, this finite resource is time. You only have a certain number of hours in the day, week, month, whatever. You choose to spend 38 of those hours and lets say at least 3-4 more (to post, pack, and ship) aquiring and selling the PS3s. Thats about the work week for an average American. According to Kotaku.com, right now they are selling for $2600 on average making for nice clean profit of $2000 each. Not bad. Most people don't make anywhere near that in a work week.

But also included are the Opportunity Costs. What else could you have been doing in that 42 hours you are spending handling these PS3s? Could you have been furthering your education to eventually make more money in the long run? Could you have been spending time with your family? Could you have been researching Dental Insurance prices? Sure. You could have been doing all of these. What it comes down to is VALUE.

Like you said. Anyone could have gotten a PS3 if they wanted to. It wasn't about luck. It's more about Opportunity Cost. I, and most other people on these boards, find the Cost to be too far high to sit in front of Circuit City for 3 days. Your opportunity cost is far, far lower, since you clearly had nothing better to do, or you would not have been there.

So when you ask me why I post, I'll tell you this: I think on your first post you sounded like an douchebag, and laughing at people because they didn't get a PS3 only shows you as an uneducated person whom no one with a job that includes dental insurance envies.[/QUOTE]

Why thank you Professor NO NUTS ... um um... can you pwease wipee my assa... duh.. cause I'm justa gunt fum da mddel ub da US uv A. fuck you prick. Sure I messed with your "Economist" label in your profile, but you don't have a fucking clue as to what I did in the military. Is that how you view the people that protect your freedoms? I'll be sure to put in a good word for you if I ever run for office. Also no one needs to here your pathetic Teacher's Aid rendition of Oppurtunity Cost. As for my original post it was directed at the OP and if you took offense you're an imbecile. Just stick to the things you think you know teaching Basic Econ. and First Grade Reading. You obviously just pick and choose what you want to see in posts because I never once stated that this act is more important than family or work dickwad and as far as my teeth are concern I cleary stated to pimpinc333 that Insurance does not cover cosmetic surgery. So please let your cock eyes have a rest, take a breather and return when you have useful info instead of some Community College gobbelty-guk.
 
[quote name='neudog'] Is that how you view the people that protect your freedoms?[/quote]

wth does that mean
 
[quote name='Trakan']You're not right. More launch units equals less demand. If Sony produces more units, people won't be interested in buying it just for the resell value. Nobody is forced to go and wait in line. People choose to. I agree that people should not be getting hurt or robbed over the thing, but that is on a case by case basis and is not happening everywhere. Nobody learned anything last year from the 360 launch as far as waiting 12+ hours only to go home empty-handed and nobody will this year. I'm not flaming you, but you ain't right.[/QUOTE]

I'm not right that Sony's first generation units are buggy as hell, or I'm not right in saying that the shit that has happened shows a very ugly side of people? I'm not saying that Sony is blameless in this situation. They should have delayed the launch until there would have been enough units to sell where stuff like this wouldn't have happened. Instead they screw over the consumer by cutting back systems multiple times, and doing a painfully small launch quadrupling the already high price.

I can't help that you all think I'm upset simply because I didn't get my PS3 (trust me, I really am ok with just getting a Wii). I also can't stop the people who did pre-order just to sell or camped out an extra 38 hours to snag a second or third system. Nothing I say can or will change that. All I know is that a fucking video game system caused some of the most hideous behavior that I have personally seen in a long time. I'm ashamed to be associated with video games as both someone who plays them and a member of the gaming press. I'm also hardly surprised that the vast majority of the flames (not you Trakan) are coming from some of the biggest trolls on the board.
 
[quote name='Spades22']wth does that mean[/QUOTE]


you wouldn't understand, canadian.


:lol:
 
Haha, hey I don't think soldiers are bad guys or anything, it's just he seemed like he was shoving it in his face as if soldiers are better than anyone else.
 
[quote name='Spades22']Haha, hey I don't think soldiers are bad guys or anything, it's just he seemed like he was shoving it in his face as if soldiers are better than anyone else.[/QUOTE]


it's cause the guy he was quoting called him a grunt...surefire way to piss off someone who went to war.
 
People need to realize its a video game system, not food, air, and shelter.

It sure as hell isn't worth catching a heart attack over.
 
Is there anybody that would seriously keep it rather than sell it at this point (current value, lack of games) if they had one? Well except for the Sony loyal.

Resistance and some crappy ports are not worth $600.
 
Not that I give a fat babies dick one way or the other but who are we to judge someone that had the time to sit in line for hours on end to buy these and possibly flip em?

In Austin Tx there were two stories of people that were in line as groups and bought 1 to play and the others to flip to pay for the first. Sure its sick and it sucks but again, I dont care simply because I didnt want to take a chance on the first batches for glitch problems. Not worth the hassle at that price point.
 
[quote name='screwkick']People need to realize its a video game system, not food, air, and shelter.

It sure as hell isn't worth catching a heart attack over.[/quote]

Right on, it look like a riot was about to happen at the Arundel Hills Mall in MD early this morning. Hundreds of people converged to the front of the Best Buy and 7-8 squad cars had to come in to bust it up.
 
[quote name='A7las']Hahaha... you'd think we were still in the fucking Cold War the way people throw that insult around.
Learn some history, and come back to 2006, before you go calling someone something you don't even understand.[/QUOTE]

I understand communism perfectly. The funny thing is that you took it as an insult. The word should have a nuetral meaning to someone as educated as you. The point is that what he is complaining about is capitalism at its fiercest. What he wants is communism at its ideal. So what he said was pretty socialistic, wouldn't you think?
 
How am I insane for keeping a PS3? People are insane for buying them for 8-10 grand.

Dude, are you kidding? You do realize keeping one and buying one from eBay are the same right?

In either case you have a PS3 but $3,000 less than you would have if you didn't have a PS3, that's why it's the same.
 
[quote name='gaelan']i guess the OP will really whine after watching this video[/QUOTE]

One smashed unit = one less unit on E-Bay. Though it is rather hypocritical he bought a second one to E-Bay.
 
[quote name='gaelan']i guess the OP will really whine after watching this video[/quote]

Some guy did the same thing at the 360 launch. He threw it out a car window as he drove by the line of people waiting to get theirs. Priceless.
 
[quote name='neudog']Why thank you Professor NO NUTS ... um um... can you pwease wipee my assa... duh.. cause I'm justa gunt fum da mddel ub da US uv A. fuck you prick. Sure I messed with your "Economist" label in your profile, but you don't have a fucking clue as to what I did in the military. Is that how you view the people that protect your freedoms? I'll be sure to put in a good word for you if I ever run for office. Also no one needs to here your pathetic Teacher's Aid rendition of Oppurtunity Cost. As for my original post it was directed at the OP and if you took offense you're an imbecile. Just stick to the things you think you know teaching Basic Econ. and First Grade Reading. You obviously just pick and choose what you want to see in posts because I never once stated that this act is more important than family or work dickwad and as far as my teeth are concern I cleary stated to pimpinc333 that Insurance does not cover cosmetic surgery. So please let your cock eyes have a rest, take a breather and return when you have useful info instead of some Community College gobbelty-guk.[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't know how to respond. Amid all this name-calling, poor language and worse grammar, you haven't been able to contradict anything I've said. Your original post may have been directed to the OP, but this is a public forum, and you really should have expected some sort of reply, just as I expected one from you.

Also, your military career doesn't really matter to me, just as my job as a market analyst for a trading company probably doesn't matter to you (I'm not a teacher). So I hope you don't use that "how you view people who protect your freedoms" in too many situations, because really, this is still a video game forum discussing the release of a console, we're not exactly burning flags in front of the Pentagon.
 
[quote name='kujustin']Dude, are you kidding? You do realize keeping one and buying one from eBay are the same right?

In either case you have a PS3 but $3,000 less than you would have if you didn't have a PS3, that's why it's the same.[/QUOTE]

ok.........
You do realize if you sell your house (and anything else that might have appreciated) and live on the street, you'll get $$$$$ for it too!!
Here is another helpful hint for you.
Don't waste money on food.
You'll only poop it out a few hours later.
 
[quote name='gaelan']i guess the OP will really whine after watching this video[/QUOTE]

I like how no one even cares about those guys anymore.

"HEY LOOK I'M SMASHING A PS3"

"What? ....eh whatever, I'm selling mine for 2500 bucks tomorow"

"BUT GUYS LOOK IM SMASHING A PS3 I MUST BE CRAZY!!!"
 
[quote name='MadFlava']Right on, it look like a riot was about to happen at the Arundel Hills Mall in MD early this morning. Hundreds of people converged to the front of the Best Buy and 7-8 squad cars had to come in to bust it up.[/quote]

What I seriously don't understand is. How bad are the managers of these stores? Everyone who has half a brain knew what was going to happen if you didn't have any organization. If you only have 20 systems (or whatever number), how hard is it to organize it so ONLY 20 people are expecting it in the morning. Hand out numbers, whatever. The managers of these stores are as much to blame as anyone else in these situations.

As the someone else posted. A walmart he went to had 12 chairs set up and let them watch movies. Very simple, and a hell of a lot more organized. How difficult is that?
 
The profits I make are going straight to my credit card bills which I am too poor and too hard pressed to pay off, this is an accumulation of all sorts of expenses related to being a poor full time student working 2 jobs and with very little support from my family.

I have been a hardcore gamer since day one, I love to play games just as much as any of you and I would at the drop of a hat pay premiums to get those gems of titles that are harder to find just to display them.

It breaks my heart when someone rips on what it is we've done as if we are responsible for killing gaming; I love gaming, but at the same time I need to survive, it's more or less a balance of what one deems morally sound and financially savvy. It seems some of us are having a hard time coming to terms with this balance and point the blame at others for outbreaks of violence, censorship, or price gouging.

It also breaks my heart that there are those of us that would try to steal from another or harm another for financial gain, hell my car was recently broken into and I lost $600 of audio gear that was extremely important to what I do. CNN will play it all day to make it seem like society has collapsed which is a crock of crap, most any edumacated persons can attest to that.

When I camped outside for the 28+ hours I met some genuinely nice and very cool people who were more than willing to help each other out with food, blankets, conversation, and entertainment. All in all it was a very cool experience and my first time ever camping out for something; I will do it again if I have the time.

Sorry for the novel; I'm just trying to defend what I've done and what others are doing. Stop for a minute and rationalize the situation to yourself: No one here is killing gaming.

Also for what it's worth it seems my system is up on ebay and still has not gotten any bids, there's only a few hours left now too :(
 
Who camps?

I woke up an extra half hour early last month and pre-ordered at EB. Not a whole lotta cost on my part. Is it my fault if someone wants to pay me triple the street value for my system? Eff you if you're going to judge me when you're likely just butthurt that you couldn't get one.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']What I seriously don't understand is. How bad are the managers of these stores? Everyone who has half a brain knew what was going to happen if you didn't have any organization. If you only have 20 systems (or whatever number), how hard is it to organize it so ONLY 20 people are expecting it in the morning. Hand out numbers, whatever. The managers of these stores are as much to blame as anyone else in these situations.

As the someone else posted. A walmart he went to had 12 chairs set up and let them watch movies. Very simple, and a hell of a lot more organized. How difficult is that?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's a pretty good point.
 
I don't seem to understand this argument. Supposing there were 150,000 units that sold today, the best possible end result according to the OP is that 150,000 units will go to "people who really care about video games." Suppose 75% of those purchased were being bought with intent to sell on ebay (112,500 units), only 37,500 are in the hands of "people who really care about the video games". BUT.... the 112,500 that WILL EVENTUALLY BE SOLD TO PEOPLE WHO DO "care about the video games", still results in 150,000 "people who care about video games" being in posession of a launch PS3 (correction 149,999, need to account for the one from smashmyps3.com). Yes, you could argue that their distribution is skewed entirely to the wealthy, but that's how it goes with a lot of things.

Additionally I would argue that Sony has already priced everyone below the upper middle class out of their market. Six hundred dollars is a lot of money for a toy, and a 600$ toy does not scream middle class to me. While most families COULD afford a $600 console, it would be irresponsible if it meant making certain types of sacrifices. Also, it would be irresponsible to turn down $3000 on a $600 purchase for most middle class families.
 
All 6 PS3's sold at my Target were eBay PS3s. None of had any shame about it, we have things to pay for. Just because pearls are free at the bottom of the ocean, doesn't mean they should be free in jewelry stores.
 
[quote name='jalu6']I honestly don't know how to respond. Amid all this name-calling, poor language and worse grammar, you haven't been able to contradict anything I've said. Your original post may have been directed to the OP, but this is a public forum, and you really should have expected some sort of reply, just as I expected one from you.

Also, your military career doesn't really matter to me, just as my job as a market analyst for a trading company probably doesn't matter to you (I'm not a teacher). So I hope you don't use that "how you view people who protect your freedoms" in too many situations, because really, this is still a video game forum discussing the release of a console, we're not exactly burning flags in front of the Pentagon.[/QUOTE]

HYPOCRITE! GET YOUR HYPOCRITE HERE! You end your response about this being a video game forum to discuss "Video Games", yet you want to give anyone reading a lesson in Economics and the meaning of oppurtunity cost. Keep your slanted comments on wallstreet asshole. No one ever stated on here that time spent in line was more valuable than time spent elsewhere. Also not all of us are big ol' market analyst, which means our way of living is totally different. You would think someone with your supposed intelect, seeing as how you're qualified to be an Economics teacher and English teacher, would know that a family income comprised of a full time student and a teacher doesn't have the most luxurious lifestyle. Also it is ironic that you question or scold anyone for their actions when you know that this shit happens all the time in your line of work. As for the "protecting freedoms" you obviously didn't heed my advice and adjust that one fucked up cock-eye and understand what you read. You are so educated in all realms of life, yet you think all service men and women are grunts. For shame sad little man. So if you want to live an enlightened, moral lifestyle that is fine with me Ghandi, but don't question and attempt to shed light on anything here because your words amount to nothing more than a pile of manure.

[quote name='dallow']All 6 PS3's sold at my Target were eBay PS3s. None of had any shame about it, we have things to pay for. Just because pearls are free at the bottom of the ocean, doesn't mean they should be free in jewelry stores.[/QUOTE]

Simple and straight to the point. Well stated dallow.
 
Ever seen a Cabbage Patch Doll,Tickle Me Elmo or Furby doll launch??

Same crap just a different group....you really don't want to be up against
this group when a "new doll" is coming out for the holidays.

IMHO if you stand outside a retail store with hundreds of dollars in your pocket,
for 2-4 days in advance.....does anyone ever think that the criminals are thinking
the same thing......mmmmmmmm 15-400 people on line...how many of them are
carrying hard cash.....and how many can we hit??

And they're "gamers"................ these fools aren't packing any weapons.

Kudos to the "gamers" that got jumped trying to get into their cars with their PS3's
One of them stabbed the would-be-robber.........screwed with a "gangsta gamer".:applause:
 
Comparing the ps3 to a hot toy of the moment isnt the same.
A 20 dollar toy compared to a 600 dollar system? Everyone would like to make thousands off a ps3.

I agree with the person who started this thread..

microsoft didnt have to launch a small amount of units
Neither did ps3 if you cared for your consumer why not push the date back and complete the order atleast get a large portion of the demand..

They want people to scramble when ps3s get back into the store all those people that witnessed the hype 'us' go like 'wow i can finaly get one of those'
instead of 'i might go pick one up later when its cheaper'.

I bet its a great selling tool to taunt the consumer .
The sad part is kids are realy let down.

OR how about these companys tell everyone 'were shipping millions of units demand will be met dont fall for thousand dollar pre order bundles and non retail resellers'.
^just them saying that pubicly alone even if they lied would fix this problem.
 
[quote name='neudog']HYPOCRITE! GET YOUR HYPOCRITE HERE! You end your response about this being a video game forum to discuss "Video Games", yet you want to give anyone reading a lesson in Economics and the meaning of oppurtunity cost. Keep your slanted comments on wallstreet asshole. No one ever stated on here that time spent in line was more valuable than time spent elsewhere. Also not all of us are big ol' market analyst, which means our way of living is totally different. You would think someone with your supposed intelect, seeing as how you're qualified to be an Economics teacher and English teacher, would know that a family income comprised of a full time student and a teacher doesn't have the most luxurious lifestyle. Also it is ironic that you question or scold anyone for their actions when you know that this shit happens all the time in your line of work. As for the "protecting freedoms" you obviously didn't heed my advice and adjust that one fucked up cock-eye and understand what you read. You are so educated in all realms of life, yet you think all service men and women are grunts. For shame sad little man. So if you want to live an enlightened, moral lifestyle that is fine with me Ghandi, but don't question and attempt to shed light on anything here because your words amount to nothing more than a pile of manure.[/QUOTE]

For the love of God will you please go to dictionary.com and PLEASE look up how to spell the word "opportunity"? That's like the third time you did that. Also, you misspelled "intellect" which I suppose goes a long way to prove my point. But like I said, I'm not a teacher. And I don't think that all serviceman and women are grunts. In fact, I knew enough about it that calling you one would do a fine job of pissing you off, and it looks like I was right.

But whatever, I'm done with this thread now. This has gone on far too long anyway. So if you haven't already, go sell your PS3s that you had the "dedication" to go acquire. I hope they sell for above market value and you make more than enough money to pay for your tuition for the next 6 or 7 years, or however long it takes you to get that Associates Degree you are after.

Good Luck.
 
Kids let down? Hmm if that's the argument you'd be silly to feel bad. They shouldn't be playing games like Resistance anyway, and they aren't getting sonic anymore, at least not at launch. If they want sonic they can get a 360 or if they want even more fun games for children, a Wii.
 
[quote name='Lauryn2000']Ever seen a Cabbage Patch Doll
[/QUOTE]

So you are saying just buy a fake PS3? For every true toy you just buy a ripoff one and the kid never knows.
 
[quote name='jalu6']For the love of God will you please go to dictionary.com and PLEASE look up how to spell the word "opportunity"? That's like the third time you did that. Also, you misspelled "intellect" which I suppose goes a long way to prove my point. But like I said, I'm not a teacher. And I don't think that all serviceman and women are grunts. In fact, I knew enough about it that calling you one would do a fine job of pissing you off, and it looks like I was right.

But whatever, I'm done with this thread now. This has gone on far too long anyway. So if you haven't already, go sell your PS3s that you had the "dedication" to go acquire. I hope they sell for above market value and you make more than enough money to pay for your tuition for the next 6 or 7 years, or however long it takes you to get that Associates Degree you are after.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]

Just as grunt set me off I purposely prod at you about teaching and mispell things to get under your skin. I think someone is way too anal when it comes to spelling. This is a message board where people use acronyms and mispelled words on a daily bases. As for the education aspect we all can't print out our certificates and declare ourselves bonified Market Analyst's. Regardless of how you defend your argument, it is jealousy that fuels your motivation to counter everything I post. So sad that a Market Analyst couldn't get his hands on a system... oh wait that's right if you spent time in line you wouldn't get a paycheck, then you couldn't pay the bills and of course that leads to no food and no home... man for some reason I stood in line, still have a happy family and my bills are still being paid. I'm so happy you understand oppurtunity cost because unlike me you can be in a warm home eating Peking Duck and driving your H3. Your opinion is absolutely irrelevant to the topic. Anyone who stood in line subconciously knows about oppurtunity cost and they weighed out their choices. As you can see many realized the plus side and leaned more towards the PS3. I look forward to your counter point seeing as how you're one of those vain pricks that has to always be right and have the last word. Maybe this ol' Kuntry boi kan teech yu sumtin... oops eye spelld Cuntry rong :rofl:
 
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