I need some PHOTOSHOP help!!

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As some of you may know, I am in the process of building a jukebox. The time has come to add some artwork for the marquee but I have no idea how to use Photoshop and I am not really artistic in general. I need help!

The only requirement is that the image be 300 DPI and fill the entire space. Also, do not put a border around the edge because lining it up exactly will be difficult.

Anyway, here is the layout for the artwork:

marqueefs7.jpg


And here is a shot of where it will go (the front of the jukebox will be solid black Plexiglas when it is finished and there will be sliver accents like the volume knob and speaker grill):

Juke+100708+010.jpg


I actually don't have any ideas other than I generally like the Rock Band 2 tribal artwork (similar to this but not looking like a skull - just random fractals/swirls):

Rock-Band2.jpg


I also like the idea of making it look like the top half of an old time radio dial. Something like this maybe:

835dial.jpg


I think it might actually look really cool to do the dial thing but only the black lines and replace the yellowish background with something else like the tribal art... or maybe something completely different. I don't know.

It would be a HUGE help if some of the more experienced graphic artists took a stab at this for me. If I end up using your design I can send 1600 MS points or 2000 Wii Points or something for your trouble...
 
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Here's the problem as I see it (I could be mistaken, but we'll see)...

It's not a perfectly circular shape. The way you've measured the two radii doesn't reveal to us the total side-to-side distance. I'd be happy to take a stab at it, but I think I need a few more measurements to get the shape right (or at least close enough for your purposes).

EDIT: Is that an exact layout? Like, could I resize and put the image directly over that?
 
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[quote name='Jek Porkins']Here's the problem as I see it (I could be mistaken, but we'll see)...

It's not a perfectly circular shape. The way you've measured the two radii doesn't reveal to us the total side-to-side distance. I'd be happy to take a stab at it, but I think I need a few more measurements to get the shape right (or at least close enough for your purposes).

EDIT: Is that an exact layout? Like, could I resize and put the image directly over that?[/quote]

It is most definitely NOT an exact layout - I made that in MS Paint in about 2 minutes. :D

I think there are enough dimensions in the drawing though... If you draw the big circle first with a cross at the center point and then measure down from the top 4-17/32" (adding the 3-7/32" and 1-5/16" dimensions) you will get the center point of the smaller circle. Then you can draw a horizontal line through that center point to find the bottom edge of the shape (it will intersect the larger arc).

Thanks!
 
Gotcha. The photo angle made me doubt that it was a true semi-circular shape, and more of an elliptical shape. I see it now, though.

I've got to go to work now, but I'll probably give it a shot later tonight!

Any other artistic vision?
 
change the posts title too:
"Attn Artists: I want your free work because I don't support you"

I think that has a good ring to it.

But honestly, if you had an art student do it for you it would probably be around $50 +/- (depending on how much was going to be an original design)

Atleast give Mr. Porkins a free icecream coupon or something...
 
Sweet!

I don't have any other artistic visions but you or anyone else bored on a Friday night is more than welcome to come up with something. :)
 
If I remember tomorrow, I can whip up some drawings in AutoCAD to make the picture a little more clear if you want. Hell, I could even make 3D model of the whole thing if I wanted to.

As for artists, I know that Relentless Rolento and Zew make good stuff. I'm sure there are other artistic CAGs but I've only seen their work.
 


Ignore the colors and basic layout. It's at the size you need it to be, with a bit extra on each side. Your photo of the actual box makes it look like it would support a bit of extra image (bleed) on the inside just to be safe.

The blue is where the swirly 'tribal' design will go (as I envision it, at least), mirrored on either side and meeting at the top center. I'm thinking like the way it looks at the top of the skull on the RB2 image. I know that you originally thought of the tribal design in the background of the yellow, which is possible, but would be pretty busy.

The yellow is a rough of how the radio part might look. Do you want the numbers and assorted markings, or just the suggestion of the radio dial shape?


Interested in further progress? Any direction? Any words or other images you'd like incorporated?
 
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OK, I did a bunch of playing around and came up with this:

index.php


The background is from the rockband.com website HERE.

Ideally I'd like to make it look more professional (crisper lines) and probably redraw the entire dial with all the numbers (since the pic I snagged isn't a perfect circle). Finally, instead of the random text that you can barely read, I'd like to add a personal touch like maybe "Mfg. by Javery 2008" or something.

Hopefully this gives you enough direction to make something cool. :D
 
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[quote name='javeryh']OK, I did a bunch of playing around and came up with this:

index.php


The background is from the rockband.com website HERE.

Ideally I'd like to make it look more professional (crisper lines) and probably redraw the entire dial with all the numbers (since the pic I snagged isn't a perfect circle). Finally, instead of the random text that you can barely read, I'd like to add a personal touch like maybe "Mfg. by Javery 2008" or something.

Hopefully this gives you enough direction to make something cool. :D[/QUOTE]

Way ahead of you on the redrawing of the circle. That part is pretty much done, and was what I thought would be the most time consuming part of the project. I can put in the "Mfg" line and whatever else you'd like in there, too.

Here's the problem with the rock band background image: it's at 72 dpi. You're hoping for 300. It's a big image, so it's not the worst case of image blowup that you could have, but it still loses some detail when it's made to fit your window image (which is near 14 inches wide). I think it looks ok, but this thing isn't going into my living room. I'll post my results later tonight and you can see what you think.

Sorry it's taken me a while on this, but the full-time job and amazing game releases have kept me away. :)

Also, the background for the dial is open for whatever look you like, so think about if you prefer the yellowed paper look, or if you want it to look like something else.
 
i have a suggestion for when you go to print it. i didn't see a mention of what type of media you plan to print the design on. have you considered window cling material? It's not full-on adhesive, so application is much easier and the material is translucent, so if you plan on having lighting behind it, it would give a nice glow. most decent sign shops should be able to print full color on cling material.
 
I'm going to have it printed professionally by mamemarquees.com. They print it on some VERY high quality material.
 
If you don't necessarily care about the rockband background and just want random fractals, you can just download high definition fractal brushes (in .abr format) on the interwebby and install in photoshop (in the presets/brushes folder). Then start up photoshop, create a blank image in 300 ppi (or above for even higher resolution) in whatever background color you want, pick a contrasting (or complementing) color for the brush and click away.
 
Visual update for you!



This is at the size and resolution you want, so that's the best the background will look this way.

What do you think about it? It doesn't look half bad at 300 dpi, mostly because it's low contrast to begin with.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Thanks jaykrue - I actually put the rockband background into the vector magic program to create a scalable vector. The detail is lost but the general idea remains. If anyone wants to check out the vector, I uploaded it here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PF6JIQBL[/quote]

If it's scalable vector then very little detail will be lost. I'd guess the only detail lost would be near the end tips of fractals. I was going to suggest vectors in illustrator (as that's how I would've done it a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away) but that's very time consuming. It's awesome that you found a vector program to automate it for you. If I did that rockband thing by hand, I'd guess it's at least 4 hrs of vector work. I'm glad I'm not in design anymore. :lol:
 
[quote name='jaykrue']If it's scalable vector then very little detail will be lost. I'd guess the only detail lost would be near the end tips of fractals. I was going to suggest vectors in illustrator (as that's how I would've done it a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away) but that's very time consuming. It's awesome that you found a vector program to automate it for you. If I did that rockband thing by hand, I'd guess it's at least 4 hrs of vector work. I'm glad I'm not in design anymore. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Newer versions of Illustrator have an automatic vector conversion built in, but like Javeryh was finding, it loses some of the detail if it's not a large, highly detailed and clean image to start with. I can still change it from it's current state to vector, but I think it might be ok the way it looks at the right size now.

Just waiting for the feedback. :)
 
[quote name='Jek Porkins']Newer versions of Illustrator have an automatic vector conversion built in, but like Javeryh was finding, it loses some of the detail if it's not a large, highly detailed and clean image to start with. I can still change it from it's current state to vector, but I think it might be ok the way it looks at the right size now.

Just waiting for the feedback. :)[/quote]

Heh. Didn't know that. It's really been a while since I've dusted off Illustrator. But still, if illustrator has a vector conversion program that can get you 90% of the way, it shouldn't be that much more to clean up and sharpen the remaining detail using bezier curves and paths. Cool nonetheless. :cool:
 
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