im starting to hate the younger generation I must be getting old

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razrvamp

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So I'm trying to play some mp this morning and I got this kid who's 14 on my team that more concerned with trying to kill his own team and shouting the f word in the mic than actually playing and this got me thinking. The younger generation for the most part does not listen anymore, has no sense of respect, gives bad customer service, basically I can't find one redeeming aspect of them. I'm in my mid 30s now and maybe I'm just out of touch but if these kids are the future leaders of the country the future does not look great. I know there's always a exception to the rule but this new up and coming generation sucks.
 
Yea I know what you mean... Though it seems to me that parents are caring less and less about what their kids can do. I know if I hear my son speak the way I hear these 12 year olds speak to me I will have a shitfit.
 
[quote name='punklivz']Yea I know what you mean... Though it seems to me that parents are caring less and less about what their kids can do. I know if I hear my son speak the way I hear these 12 year olds speak to me I will have a shitfit.[/QUOTE]

Your right I think it partly has to do with the parents. I have a 10, 9, and 8 year old. If I see them doing what these kids do I would have a shitfit too
 
[quote name='razrvamp']Your right I think it partly has to do with the parents. I have a 10, 9, and 8 year old. If I see them doing what these kids do I would have a shitfit too[/QUOTE]

mine are 3, 4, and 5 lol. My son plays a lot already (my 4 year old) but I will not let him get on the mic.
 
I don't hate the younger generation but I see them making the same dumb mistakes that I made when I was their age.

Sometimes its easy to look at yourself with rose-colored glasses. But I know for a fact that I was a stupid punk kid too long ago.
 
[quote name='razrvamp']So I'm trying to play some mp this morning and I got this kid who's 14 on my team that more concerned with trying to kill his own team and shouting the f word in the mic than actually playing and this got me thinking. The younger generation for the most part does not listen anymore, has no sense of respect, gives bad customer service, basically I can't find one redeeming aspect of them. I'm in my mid 30s now and maybe I'm just out of touch but if these kids are the future leaders of the country the future does not look great. I know there's always a exception to the rule but this new up and coming generation sucks.[/QUOTE]


its not you its them.i hate those damn kids who have mics and just go on and on about nothing like theyre so starved for attention theyll say and do anything for it. no wonder there seems to be a boom in pedos.

also what the fuck is with the young girls being so slutty? and why the fuck couldnt they be like that when i was a kid? same thing for the hot teachers.
 
Me too. Not just high school kids though, even the damn college kids I have to teach drive me nuts half the time.

I'm just getting old and grumpy I guess.
 
I'm pretty sure every generation says that about the younger ones at some point. We're old, man, we're old.
 
I've been teaching high school for 12 years now, and I can say for sure that teens are less mature, less respectful, and far less intelligent than they were a decade ago.
 
[quote name='shinn']mid 30s, i stopped reading right there... no offense, but your old now.[/QUOTE]

Yep I am probably old, I'm already falling apart. Better get a cane and start yelling wt kids to get off my lawn
 
I'm not that old (mid 20's), but you have to accept things change. We blame kids for being disrespectful, uncaring and lazy. Who do they learn from? Some parents just aren't cut out to be parents sadly. The internet also makes it easy for kids to learn about things the older generation had to learn through experience or through parent guidance. We also have the older generation who caters to the younger kids through commercials, advertisements, television shows, movies, etc and than wonder why they act or dress a certain way?

I have quite a few relatives and a lot of my younger cousins are good kids. Not perfect by any means, but are conscious of their actions. They make mistakes like we did, experiment with drugs or sex like we did and grow up through their own experience like we did. When you become a parent you become even more conscious of a kids actions. All of a sudden it matters more and you see things differently.
 
I'm 16, but I hate 95% of teenagers. They are awful, they have poor judgment, they're short sighted and judgmental. I can't stand teenagers.
 
Maybe we are just getting old, but it does seem like more kids are disrespectful. I used to hate it when the news generalized teenagers in the mid 90's to being disrespecful and worse than the teens before them. It's not all kids, but you notice the ones that do stupid crap.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Funny, I remember way back in the early 90s when they said the same exact shit about your generation.

Welcome to getting old.[/QUOTE]

^This
 
They hate us for being "old" and we hate them for being "stupid, spoiled and not with the program...unless it's an app"
 
as a 19 yo i dont like my generation either. I don't really like anyone actually but w/e. Generation z+milenial generations are facing problems and situations generation y and backwards have never faced. As a generation z'er I absorb more information than any other generation before me tenfold. I pretty much have to go into debt and attend college, something previous generations also never had to contend with. My generation will also have to face and solve the crumbling infastructures of our global political, economic, and environmental policies, which were all mismanaged by previous generations, for right or for wrong.
 
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']as a 19 yo i dont like my generation either. I don't really like anyone actually but w/e. Generation z+milenial generations are facing problems and situations generation y and backwards have never faced. As a generation z'er I absorb more information than any other generation before me tenfold. I pretty much have to go into debt and attend college, something previous generations also never had to contend with. My generation will also have to face and solve the crumbling infastructures of our global political, economic, and environmental policies, which were all mismanaged by previous generations, for right or for wrong.[/QUOTE]
A simple "thank you" would suffice, you ungrateful little punk!:lol:
 
I'm pretty sure most teenagers now would have been considered retarded by previous standards. It really is a disservice to put mentally challenged people in the same category as today's teens.
 
[quote name='dm85']
I have quite a few relatives and a lot of my younger cousins are good kids. Not perfect by any means, but are conscious of their actions. They make mistakes like we did, experiment with drugs or sex like we did and grow up through their own experience like we did. When you become a parent you become even more conscious of a kids actions. All of a sudden it matters more and you see things differently.[/QUOTE]

There are alot of good kids out there. That's the problem with making blanket statements about groups of people is you won't find everyone. And young kids are always going to make poor decisions because they don't have the experience and nothing you tell them can supplement the experience.

But.... I think it's hard to argue it's not getting worse. Back in my day we'd at least act like we were listening to the older people and then go do what we wanted. That was how we disrespected older people in my day. Now a days, the younger crowd will tell you to f-off right to your face and then say what are you going to do about it. A different level of disrespect I'd say. Again, not everyone does it, but I'm always surprised what people let their kids get away with today.
 
I think the proliferation of technology has a lot to do with the "rudeness"....though that's not limited to younger generations. Just more prevalent in terms of usage than in older generations.

But it's just a growing problem across the board of checking smart phones in class, at the dinner table etc., going around everywhere with headphones in and not able to hear or pay attention to others around you and so on. Hell, I've caught myself being guilty of some of that kind of crap a times, but at least try to refrain from it.

But it seems like many college age and under folks are completely tied to their smartphones and texting and checking facebook and all that stuff and just don't have the attention span to put it down and pay attention to a class lecture or a movie in the theater etc. And sadly I've even seen some middle aged colleagues who are just as bad, with checking their smart phones in meetings, graduation ceremonies etc.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I think the proliferation of technology has a lot to do with the "rudeness"....though that's not limited to younger generations. Just more prevalent in terms of usage than in older generations.

But it's just a growing problem across the board of checking smart phones in class, at the dinner table etc., going around everywhere with headphones in and not able to hear or pay attention to others around you and so on. Hell, I've caught myself being guilty of some of that kind of crap a times, but at least try to refrain from it.

But it seems like many college age and under folks are completely tied to their smartphones and texting and checking facebook and all that stuff and just don't have the attention span to put it down and pay attention to a class lecture or a movie in the theater etc. And sadly I've even seen some middle aged colleagues who are just as bad, with checking their smart phones in meetings, graduation ceremonies etc.[/QUOTE]

This is my thoughts exactly. It is the cell phones and technology that is ruining the younger generation. All of my little cousins can't put their cell phones down during class, family events, or anything. My wife is a teacher and kids are constantly complaining about doing work....they just want to talk and get on their cell phones. Things were not like this when I was in school 10 years ago...we actually listened to the teacher.
 
Here's another point. Technology is definitely a big issue. Kids nowadays have all these means of communication. If your a parent nowadays you might be from a technologically impaired generation. So your kids are on Facebook, Sexting, Skyping, browsing the internet for shit they shouldn't know and as a parent you have no idea how to handle it.
 
My brother has a 12 and 15 year old and he quit taking them to the movies because neither of them will put down the phone and watch the film. Its just text and Facebook til the film is over. Smartphones are one hell of a crutch when you want to be antisocial in public too. I'm guilty of hugging a wall and checking facebook instead of talking to strangers myself and I am 26.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I think the proliferation of technology has a lot to do with the "rudeness"....though that's not limited to younger generations. Just more prevalent in terms of usage than in older generations.

But it's just a growing problem across the board of checking smart phones in class, at the dinner table etc., going around everywhere with headphones in and not able to hear or pay attention to others around you and so on. Hell, I've caught myself being guilty of some of that kind of crap a times, but at least try to refrain from it.

But it seems like many college age and under folks are completely tied to their smartphones and texting and checking facebook and all that stuff and just don't have the attention span to put it down and pay attention to a class lecture or a movie in the theater etc. And sadly I've even seen some middle aged colleagues who are just as bad, with checking their smart phones in meetings, graduation ceremonies etc.[/QUOTE]

As a college student I can say this probably is an actual issue. Growing up with so many distractions has made it very hard to focus on any one thing. I don't know about other universities, but I'd say half the kids here take adderall to stay motivated for school work -- legal prescriptions or not.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']As a college student I can say this probably is an actual issue. Growing up with so many distractions has made it very hard to focus on any one thing. I don't know about other universities, but I'd say half the kids here take adderall to stay motivated for school work -- legal prescriptions or not.[/QUOTE]

It's definitely an issue.

Even for me, I have a harder time focusing on any one thing than I did 5-10 years ago when in college/grad school, or even in high school before that.

And I didn't have a cell phone until 2002 when I was 24, never had broadband at home until 2005 etc. So there's no doubt that it's even worse for these younger generations who've had all these distractions for most of their lives.
 
[quote name='dm85']Here's another point. Technology is definitely a big issue. Kids nowadays have all these means of communication. If your a parent nowadays you might be from a technologically impaired generation. So your kids are on Facebook, Sexting, Skyping, browsing the internet for shit they shouldn't know and as a parent you have no idea how to handle it.[/QUOTE]

This cracks me up. The same parents who would not allow their underage children to watch a pornographic material on their TV at home pay no attention to what their children are downloading to their phones or PCs.

I had relatives visiting my house this weekend, including my nephews, all of various ages with smartphones (grade school to high school), and everywhere we went that could pick a wireless signal, they would try to access questionable internet content. Their parents, being technologically ignorant, had no idea what they were doing until I pointed out in a restaurant that one of their grade school boys was looking at big titty porn in a restaurant via their phone. When these kids arrived at my house, they acted like we were denying them air once they found out Auntie and Uncle had their wireless internet on lockdown and they couldn't access our wireless signal. I told them they would have to wait until they were adults to watch big titty porn in my house.

Todays teens in first world countries have a wealth of information at their disposal via the internet, and what do they do with it? Download videos of people crapping on each other.
 
[quote name='razrvamp']So I'm trying to play some mp this morning and I got this kid who's 14 on my team that more concerned with trying to kill his own team and shouting the f word in the mic than actually playing and this got me thinking.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly why I mute everyone but friends on XBL. :lol:
As a result I think today's kids are great! ;)
Not really.
 
I think it's overwhelmingly a reflection of the parents. If one of my kids was shouting an expletive while playing videogames in his room, the power plug would be yanked and there would be major repercussions.

This younger generation lack of respect thing has been happening. I coach middle school aged kids, and about 10 years ago when I was first starting to coach, and play less, I noticed just a bit of the attitude. In the last 3-4 years it's so bad that each year I tell myself this will be the last season I coach, then somehow get roped back into it when the season nears.

As a child, I had a small bit of fear, a large amount of respect, for those who were older than me, even by just 2-3 years. The guys that are in their early to mid twenties don't even have this now. They think they know it all.

A big part of it is cultural too. Most of the people from my background are taught at a very early age that you respect your elders, and adults that you know aren't called by their first names, they're called uncle or aunt so-and-so. That might be a bit antiquated, but I am much happier hearing my young children refer to one of my friends as uncle.

Society has a real lack of respect for each other. It starts with the adults and elders who should be teaching their kids better, but if they don't even respect each other, it's hopeless.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I think the proliferation of technology has a lot to do with the "rudeness"....though that's not limited to younger generations. Just more prevalent in terms of usage than in older generations.

But it's just a growing problem across the board of checking smart phones in class, at the dinner table etc., going around everywhere with headphones in and not able to hear or pay attention to others around you and so on. Hell, I've caught myself being guilty of some of that kind of crap a times, but at least try to refrain from it.

But it seems like many college age and under folks are completely tied to their smartphones and texting and checking facebook and all that stuff and just don't have the attention span to put it down and pay attention to a class lecture or a movie in the theater etc. And sadly I've even seen some middle aged colleagues who are just as bad, with checking their smart phones in meetings, graduation ceremonies etc.[/QUOTE]

That's a sensational point. Additionally, if they aren't on a smartphone, they're on a laptop, which as part of its form factor has you sheilding yourself from everyone else with the back of the screen. Maybe it's a reduction in acquired social skills that is accelerating the decline. Very interesting stuff.

Also, having more information at your disposal than any previous generation is NOT the same as learning more. Retention, comprehension, and understanding are required to learn. Reading part of something on your phone while Gears 3 loads is not learning. :p
 
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[quote name='berzirk']As a child, I had a small bit of fear, a large amount of respect, for those who were older than me, even by just 2-3 years. [/QUOTE]

This is a HUGE problem. Kids today seem to have no fear of anything at all. I think it is a combination of the internet and lazy parenting. When I was growing up most people I knew had one working parent and one stay-at-home parent to keep the kids in line. Now there are a ton of two income families who use daycare or a nanny who can never be as demanding of respect as your own parents. Jeez, I remember basically crapping myself as a kid when I heard "Just wait until your father gets home" from my mother.

Also, the internet and access to information is another issue. I'm not sure it is a problem because the more information you have access to the better, IMO, but I do think it contributes. I don't think we have learned what to make of it yet since it is so new - maybe our kids will figure it out.
 
They're no worse than we were. Remember your fellow classmates from high school or even middle school. I bet you they would give these teens today a run for their money. The behavior we are noticing has more to do with technology. We are now forced to share the same digital space as these teens. Their immaturity stands out in such situations. It is true that there might be a few more bad apples today but overall I believe today's teens aren't that bad...just more socially inept.
 
[quote name='kill3r7']....but overall I believe today's teens aren't that bad...just more socially inept.[/QUOTE]

But I think that's why they are worse. I think a lot of the lack or respect etc. comes down more of them being social inept from doing most of their socializing through text messages, Facebook etc.

So you're getting the rudeness people express themselves with online now mixed into real life interactions.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']But I think that's why they are worse. I think a lot of the lack or respect etc. comes down more of them being social inept from doing most of their socializing through text messages, Facebook etc.

So you're getting the rudeness people express themselves with online now mixed into real life interactions.[/QUOTE]

This is very true but adults are guilty of exhibiting the same behavior. Not a day goes by without someone saying lol. For fuck sakes just fucken laugh out loud...no need for lol. I know it's a crude example but it proves my point.
 
[quote name='kill3r7']This is very true but adults are guilty of exhibiting the same behavior. Not a day goes by without someone saying lol. For fuck sakes just fucken laugh out loud...no need for lol. I know it's a crude example but it proves my point.[/QUOTE]

Oh I agree. As I said above, this kind of stuff is just more prevalent among the younger generations as they're pretty much all into the internet, texting etc. Where as not everyone in the older generation is. But older folks who are are often just as bad with that crap, or checking their phones at dinner or in a movie theater etc.

But I was more talking about people just being assholes to others. I think people are used to being dicks to people online and that's overall made many people more likely to be dicks to people in real life.

And it just seems like each generation gets more self centered than the last, which doesn't help with respect/rudeness either.
 
[quote name='Javery']This is a HUGE problem. Kids today seem to have no fear of anything at all. I think it is a combination of the internet and lazy parenting. When I was growing up most people I knew had one working parent and one stay-at-home parent to keep the kids in line. Now there are a ton of two income families who use daycare or a nanny who can never be as demanding of respect as your own parents. Jeez, I remember basically crapping myself as a kid when I heard "Just wait until your father gets home" from my mother.

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Uh, I come from a two income family. Just because both parents work and need someone else to watch their children doesn't make them bad parents. What makes them bad parents is if they pick crappy nannies, babysitters, or daycare providers. When I was growing up, all these kinds of child givers were allowed to physically discipline unruly children, and when I babysat as a teenager in my area we were still allowed to spank children. And then the parents would discipline the children when they got home on top of that. Trust me, when I was growing up, no one wanted their babysitter to tell their parents they had been bad when they were gone. Nowadays any of these childcare providers could be sued if they tried to keep kids properly in line.
 
I don't think he meant to imply that all two-income families=bad parents.

Just that there's a trend of both parents working, shuffling their kids off to day care, and not being that involved with what the kids are doing nights and weekend as they're busy working at home or doing their own things.

There are plenty of two-income families where the parents bust ass at work and come how and bust ass at parenting too. But at the same time, it's still less parental contact than having a good mother (or father) who's a full time parent.
 
[quote name='Javery']This is a HUGE problem. Kids today seem to have no fear of anything at all. I think it is a combination of the internet and lazy parenting. When I was growing up most people I knew had one working parent and one stay-at-home parent to keep the kids in line. Now there are a ton of two income families who use daycare or a nanny who can never be as demanding of respect as your own parents. Jeez, I remember basically crapping myself as a kid when I heard "Just wait until your father gets home" from my mother.

Also, the internet and access to information is another issue. I'm not sure it is a problem because the more information you have access to the better, IMO, but I do think it contributes. I don't think we have learned what to make of it yet since it is so new - maybe our kids will figure it out.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you grew up in a pretty well-to-do neighborhood. Every family in my hood required 2 working parents to survive. You can't really blame it on "lazy parenting" in those types of situations when 24/7 parenting is a luxury or work schedules require daycare as not everyone will have family that is able or willing to take care of someone's kids all afternoon.

[quote name='kill3r7']They're no worse than we were. Remember your fellow classmates from high school or even middle school. I bet you they would give these teens today a run for their money. The behavior we are noticing has more to do with technology. We are now forced to share the same digital space as these teens. Their immaturity stands out in such situations. It is true that there might be a few more bad apples today but overall I believe today's teens aren't that bad...just more socially inept.[/QUOTE]
Yeah...I've known some pretty horrible kids and it's the same shit as it was 15-20+ years ago. Broken windows, egged cars, rampant cursing, fights, slutty clothing, etc. Hell, I think things were worse in my hood 40 years ago.

[quote name='dmaul1114']But I think that's why they are worse. I think a lot of the lack or respect etc. comes down more of them being social inept from doing most of their socializing through text messages, Facebook etc.

So you're getting the rudeness people express themselves with online now mixed into real life interactions.[/QUOTE]
I don't think you knew enough catty people that were pre-xanga...:D.
 
[quote name='dohdough']
Yeah...I've known some pretty horrible kids and it's the same shit as it was 15-20+ years ago. Broken windows, egged cars, rampant cursing, fights, slutty clothing, etc. Hell, I think things were worse in my hood 40 years ago. [/quote]

Good point.

I think the issue is more that behavior has gotten worse even among the white middle class kids. Maybe not with vandalism and that kind of crap as kids of all races and social classes have always gotten involved in that stuff and always will, but just with being disrespectful to adults, teachers etc. and lacking basic manners and social competency.

Those kind of skills get developed in face to face interaction with peers, and that has declined with people spending so much time online. And that really starts with our generation (for those of us in our mid 30s) as we were in high school when the internet took off, and obviously spend too much time online given how much most of us post on forums like CAG!

That's just multiplied for the younger generations as they've never lived in a world without the internet, cell phones, text messaging etc.

I don't think you knew enough catty people that were pre-xanga...:D.
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Probably. And I also grew up in a rural area and only had small towns around. People tend to be nicer/more respectful their than in big cities where I've lived the past 10 years or so.

Though I did go home for the holidays and noticed that people seemed ruder than in the past their as well. But I'd be bitter and disgruntled if I was still stuck in WV as well, so I can't fault them!
 
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[quote name='dohdough']Sounds like you grew up in a pretty well-to-do neighborhood. Every family in my hood required 2 working parents to survive. You can't really blame it on "lazy parenting" in those types of situations when 24/7 parenting is a luxury or work schedules require daycare as not everyone will have family that is able or willing to take care of someone's kids all afternoon.[/QUOTE]

dohdough, I was seriously thinking that you were going to say something to that effect when I wrote that!

I don't think 2 income families = lazy parenting and that was not my intent. I am in a 2 income family! I just meant that it seems like because there are more two income families nowadays that less time is being devoted to disciplining kids when they get out of line. I should have said something like "less time devoted to parenting" or something because it really is a 24/7 job. Nannies/daycare just can't discipline kids with the same force. I hope I'm not doing a disservice to my kids (although the wife works weekends and we only have a babysitter 2 days a week) but someone has to pay the bills.
 
I think it's comical that you're judging the current generation of kids based on the kids who are being allowed to play MW3 and the like without supervision.
 
[quote name='crunchewy']I think it's comical that you're judging the current generation of kids based on the kids who are being allowed to play MW3 and the like without supervision.[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone is doing that though. People have been talking about their young relatives, students they teach etc.

The kids online are just one extreme example of the problem.
 
I blame parents, internet (facebook) and media (jersey shore, being whores, drinking and smoking are cool). Mostly parents though. Kinda glad I'm not a kid in 2011, I'm sure I would be even stupider now than I was when I was a teen.
 
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