Is it just me or is there somthing wrong witht he 200 dollar give away.

[quote name='Tromack']What I'm saying is that post number should have nothing to do with it. There are people who have been on here since July of last year who have fewer posts then you. But that makes them more of a newbie than you? Or hell there are people who joined 2 weeks ago and have made ridiculous numbers of posts and have twice as many as me. Does that make me a newbie compared to them? To be trite and cliched, I'm saying you can't judge a book by its cover. And I still say you have no reason to bitch.[/quote]

Agreed.

And for the people that have multiple usernames...Im sure Cheapy can match them up by IP, can't he, to see if they entered more than once?
 
I dis agrre with the orignal post here I only have a handfull of post but have been here since january does that make me a newibe just trying to get the $200 this is just my 2cents worth
 
Sorry man, i forgot about the people who have been here a while and just dont post, im not really annoyed at them. I just find it funnny and it kind of gets me irritated when people who have been here like three days talk about CAG with such emotion
 
[quote name='spyhunterk19']Sorry man, i forgot about the people who have been here a while and just dont post, im not really annoyed at them. I just find it funnny and it kind of gets me irritated when people who have been here like three days talk about CAG with such emotion[/quote]

We were all noobs once, dood. This site has more noobs than anything else. The noobs helped CAG get to 20,000. There are alot of noobs who have been here a while but just lurk also. People who have been here for only 3 days that talk about CAG with alot of emotion could have been lurking for 6 months, you never know. My point is that CheapyD wants the contest to be this way and the noobs helped get to 20,000, so I say they should be eligible.
 
I will agree to that seen some funny things said bye some new people. Man I can not type for crap today need another beer
 
You're probably right, and Im not gonna disagree with cheapy, but i guess in the end I hope that peope didn't just joinfor the contest then leave, cause i dont think thats what cheapy wanted.
 
i doubt anyone well-known on here will win just for the simple fact that, "figures _____ won, he only won cuz hes here all of the time" blah blah blah....a no name is more likely to win because than their is no arguement such as that and it seems that everyone can be a winner...drawing more new ppl to the site...and im really not complaining...i already forgot about the contest til i saw this thread a few minutes ago...and everyone needs to know that cheapy doesnt have to do this, he brings enough to the table just by having this site up for us....and dont forget about defender, hes bringing this contest to you as well....either way, i will say this, ill split the prize with cheapy if he'll rig it up so that i win :twisted:
 
[quote name='evilmojo12542']I dis agrre with the orignal post here I only have a handfull of post but have been here since january does that make me a newibe just trying to get the $200 this is just my 2cents worth[/quote]

True, I'd agree it doesn't mean that you are a newbie.
But you can also look at it that you really aren't contributing all that much to the site and it's collective pool of deals either.
Considering all the negative implications that that could imply (vulture, leech, etc), I'd think first before popping off too much.
 
[quote name='trustcompany1013']i doubt anyone well-known on here will win just for the simple fact that, "figures _____ won, he only won cuz hes here all of the time" blah blah blah....a no name is more likely to win because than their is no arguement such as that and it seems that everyone can be a winner...drawing more new ppl to the site...and im really not complaining...i already forgot about the contest til i saw this thread a few minutes ago...and everyone needs to know that cheapy doesnt have to do this, he brings enough to the table just by having this site up for us....and dont forget about defender, hes bringing this contest to you as well....either way, i will say this, ill split the prize with cheapy if he'll rig it up so that i win :twisted:[/quote]


I don't know about that Trustcompany, I just figure it will be an unknown or relative unknown due to the numbers. The number of known posters makes up about 1-2% percent of the site users. The WELL known posters make up only a fraction of that.
 
[quote name='spyhunterk19']Mabye so, and i did ask for your opinion on it and i guess thats it....sorry if I offended the great 1k+ post gods with my opinion and thread just to talk about somthing and not flame me.[/quote]

By posting this in a public forum you sure as hell are asking for my opinion. You said your piece, I get to say mine. So just stop digging yourself into a hole and shut up.
 
Ya, again i asked for your opinion , an example might be "I belivet hat everyone should be allowed to answer", a flame might be "Shut up" there is a big difference between an opinion and a flame.
 
[quote name='spyhunterk19']Ya, again i asked for your opinion , an example might be "I belivet hat everyone should be allowed to answer", a flame might be "Shut up" there is a big difference between an opinion and a flame.[/quote]

The tone of the responses you recieve with a contraversial subject is usually very closely related to the tone which you yourself use.
Considering that your tone is much like tromack's, you can't complain all that much.
 
Most of my posts earlier were freindly, its just id rather have people offer their opinions then call me stupid, unless that is the only opinion they have.
 
You started this post bitching about something, you ask for people's opinions, but when people offer opinions that are contrary to yours you tell them that they are wrong and that you don't want their opinions. Maybe I was a bit hostile, but I still feel that you have no right to bitch about the chance to get free money. and that is the source of my hostility. You should have just said, "Cheapy, thanks for doing this for us. We all appreciate the great deals and everything else you do for us. Thanks." and left it at that.

Edit - And I did offer my opinion then called you stupid. I'm sure you meant "than", but I did do exactly what you said you wanted.
 
[quote name='spyhunterk19']Most of my posts earlier were freindly, its just id rather have people offer their opinions then call me stupid, unless that is the only opinion they have.[/quote]

Most Arabs aren't terrorists, yet there are developing stereotype as well as profiling.
 
I just happened to think about the new users signing up just to enter the contest, as well. Also, I'm not sure about having to have a certain number of posts to enter the contest.

You can't really judge a user by how many posts they have. They might have 1,000 posts, and those posts could just be a bunch of useless, one-word replies to threads. On the other hand, a user could just have 10 posts, and they could have used those 10 posts to post some good deals, help out others, etc.

Overall, we have a bunch of great people here. And I'm sure that there will be plenty more good people joining in the future.
 
[quote name='Saucy Jack']I just happened to think about the new users signing up just to enter the contest, as well. Also, I'm not sure about having to have a certain number of posts to enter the contest.

You can't really judge a user by how many posts they have. They might have 1,000 posts, and those posts could just be a bunch of useless, one-word replies to threads. On the other hand, a user could just have 10 posts, and they could have used those 10 posts to post some good deals, help out others, etc.

Overall, we have a bunch of great people here. And I'm sure that there will be plenty more good people joining in the future.[/quote]

The thing is, you can. If someone has been around for years, and only posted say 10-11 times, than chances are it's not them that is posting the majority of the deals. Yes, people will high post counts may indulge in some of the worthless threads more often, but they are often also more likely to be the ones submitting and posting the deals as well.
 
[quote name='Saucy Jack']

Overall, we have a bunch of great people here. And I'm sure that there will be plenty more good people joining in the future.[/quote]

On that I couldn't agree more.
 
I signed up quite soem time ago and use this site alot. I just don't post. I used to be a big poster at Digital Press... but I barely post there anymore either.
 
I think only members that joined on or before the date that the contest was announced should be able to join. That way you allow the lurkers to join but any non-honest CAGers that think "hey I am going to make 50 accounts to try to win" can't.
 
If you do that, then you risk losing the traffic the contest generates in the first place.

It's a circular argument with no good solution except to take it for what it's worth and hope the fickle finger of fate picks someone deserving.
 
[quote name='Marioallstar2600']I signed up quite soem time ago and use this site alot. I just don't post. I used to be a big poster at Digital Press... but I barely post there anymore either.[/quote]

You can't exactly consider yourself a useful, productive member of the community then, can you?
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']If you do that, then you risk losing the traffic the contest generates in the first place.

It's a circular argument with no good solution except to take it for what it's worth and hope the fickle finger of fate picks someone deserving.[/quote]

You know, I don't even really care about the contest, that's CheapyD's idea, and for the specific event it celebrates, the rules make sense.

It's the presumption of importance that some of these people have taken that is more vexing than anything.
 
I personally could care less who wins. IF they win good for them.

I know I won't win since I never win anything, so I am not all that concerned. What would piss me off is if someone entered twice with two different accounts won.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I personally could care less who wins. IF they win good for them.

I know I won't win since I never win anything, so I am not all that concerned. What would piss me off is if someone entered twice with two different accounts won.[/quote]

Exactly.
I couldn't care less about the contest and who wins.
It's the underlying issues that this thread has unearthed that are of greater concern to me.

Of course, post count and time served have no bearing on someone's importance to the community... it's how they are viewed by the rest of the community.

After this thread vanishes back into the aether, some people will still be well known and important to the community regardless of post count, and many of the people will just vanish back into the nothingness from whence they came.
 
yeah i may only have ~15 posts, but that doesnt mean that I havent supported CAG by buying through links, etc. Why does this come down to number of posts? The question was what does CAG mean to you? Not "what have the forums meant to you?" Frankly, I generally dislike forums (blame gamefaqs) but I do enjoy these boards. I just choose not to clutter the boards with posts that don't have any substance (a la gamefaqs) so I dunno why I should be punished for this...
 
[quote name='JSweeney']
Of course, post count and time served have no bearing on someone's importance to the community... it's how they are viewed by the rest of the community.[/quote]

Exactly. It just pisses me off that people automatically associate post count with importance. Now, most of the people who are important to the site do have high post counts, but there are some good deal contributors who have low post counts, since they only post deals. Are they less important than someone who just posts a ridiculuous amount of "XBOX is TEH SUck LOL!!!!1!1 JK" crap? I don't think so.
 
Well, I don't know about you guys, but I contribute to the site by posting........well, I always find out......uhm. Ha ha....let's just forget all about this...
 
[quote name='madmage']yeah i may only have ~15 posts, but that doesnt mean that I havent supported CAG by buying through links, etc. Why does this come down to number of posts? The question was what does CAG mean to you? Not "what have the forums meant to you?" Frankly, I generally dislike forums (blame gamefaqs) but I do enjoy these boards. I just choose not to clutter the boards with posts that don't have any substance (a la gamefaqs) so I dunno why I should be punished for this...[/quote]

Therein lies the problem that makes quantifying someone's importance to the community/site so difficult.
People like you are rare and precious. You are just as important to CAG as anyone, and moreso that even some of the long time posters, as you help keep money flowing in, and help keep CAG around.
You're putting you're money where you're mouth is, and supporting CAG.
This should be lauded. It's also why I don't agree to arbitary limits set on contests.

However, I don't care for people who make no posts, don't use the links that help support the site, leech off of the deals that the contributing posters and provide absolutely nothing to the community, yet expect to be treated the same as those who constantly post deals.

Just to state by biases, this is how I see the site's hierarchy of importance.

CheapyD--->Defender---->People who post deals/People who buy through CAG links----->People who shape the community---->People who post regularly---->People who provide nothing yet benefit from the deals.

Yes, People who pay in to the site and people who post deals are of equal importance, as without either, the site wouldn't exist or be successful.
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='spyhunterk19']Most of my posts earlier were freindly, its just id rather have people offer their opinions then call me stupid, unless that is the only opinion they have.[/quote]

Most Arabs aren't terrorists, yet there are developing stereotype as well as profiling.[/quote]

Most Arabs think there is nothing wrong with suicide bombing. Helloooooo. That's screwed up thinking.
 
[quote name='WarrenGekko'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='spyhunterk19']Most of my posts earlier were freindly, its just id rather have people offer their opinions then call me stupid, unless that is the only opinion they have.[/quote]

Most Arabs aren't terrorists, yet there are developing stereotype as well as profiling.[/quote]

Most Arabs think there is nothing wrong with suicide bombing. Helloooooo. That's screwed up thinking.[/quote]

If you actually believe what you just said, you must be on crack.
I can think of a couple thousand in Dearborn that would love to kick your ass for even suggesting that.
 
[quote name='fireball343']the contest is because we have 20,000 users so excluding them really defeats the purpose of the contest, but the fact that a very large percentage of the users are just lurkers they shouldn't quailfiy because they aren't really part of CAG.

Personally i think Defender should win.[/quote]


This is the only person in this thread with any sense. You should all listen to him. :)
 
[quote name='defender'][quote name='fireball343']the contest is because we have 20,000 users so excluding them really defeats the purpose of the contest, but the fact that a very large percentage of the users are just lurkers they shouldn't quailfiy because they aren't really part of CAG.

Personally i think Defender should win.[/quote]


This is the only person in this thread with any sense. You should all listen to him. :)[/quote]

What would you do with a $200 VGD GC? :wink:

(I know he saves $200, don't ruin my fun. :lol: )
 
[quote name='defender'][quote name='fireball343']the contest is because we have 20,000 users so excluding them really defeats the purpose of the contest, but the fact that a very large percentage of the users are just lurkers they shouldn't quailfiy because they aren't really part of CAG.

Personally i think Defender should win.[/quote]


This is the only person in this thread with any sense. You should all listen to him. :)[/quote]

You make a convincing argument there, defender.
 
Let me ask the OP this, what was the last deal you posted?

I think this is a great site but there definitely is a pervasive elitist attitude around here in regards to number of posts. I have posted about a few deals int he past when I first started but invariably people already knew about it and I got flamed for posting info people already know about so I just stopped trying. I can only think of a handful of posters who regularly submit meaningful deals such as trustcompany, punksux etc.. Looking at the bulk of posts the vast majority are about silly topics about people's personal lives, or politics etc. that have nothing to do with gaming. The reason CAG is able to reach 20,000 is because of lurkers who enjoy the site and take advantage of the deals and more often than not, use the links. We deserve to be considered just as much as everyone else.
 
Of course you think that. It would give you a better chance of winning. However, why should I be excluded just because I have been here for a shorter amount of time with little to say because my house is damaged from flood....
 
[quote name='WarrenGekko'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='spyhunterk19']Most of my posts earlier were freindly, its just id rather have people offer their opinions then call me stupid, unless that is the only opinion they have.[/quote]

Most Arabs aren't terrorists, yet there are developing stereotype as well as profiling.[/quote]

Most Arabs think there is nothing wrong with suicide bombing. Helloooooo. That's screwed up thinking.[/quote]
:shock:
did you forget the sarcam tag?
or did you forget the racism tag?

the world may never know
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='WarrenGekko'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='spyhunterk19']Most of my posts earlier were freindly, its just id rather have people offer their opinions then call me stupid, unless that is the only opinion they have.[/quote]

Most Arabs aren't terrorists, yet there are developing stereotype as well as profiling.[/quote]

Most Arabs think there is nothing wrong with suicide bombing. Helloooooo. That's screwed up thinking.[/quote]

If you actually believe what you just said, you must be on crack.
I can think of a couple thousand in Dearborn that would love to kick your ass for even suggesting that.[/quote]

See...religion of violence!
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='WarrenGekko'][quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='spyhunterk19']Most of my posts earlier were freindly, its just id rather have people offer their opinions then call me stupid, unless that is the only opinion they have.[/quote]

Most Arabs aren't terrorists, yet there are developing stereotype as well as profiling.[/quote]

Most Arabs think there is nothing wrong with suicide bombing. Helloooooo. That's screwed up thinking.[/quote]

If you actually believe what you just said, you must be on crack.
I can think of a couple thousand in Dearborn that would love to kick your ass for even suggesting that.[/quote]

See...religion of violence! [/quote]


Dearborn is a tough place
 
Just because I don't post regularly and 2-3 times a day doesn't mean I don't visit the site daily. It's unfair to count out those who aren't as "posty" as others.
 
[quote name='slimpip']Just because I don't post regularly and 2-3 times a day doesn't mean I don't visit the site daily. It's unfair to count out those who aren't as "posty" as others.[/quote]3 posts in over a year of coming to CAG is just wrong. 2 posts not counting the one you just did. I and so many others would call you a lurker. But that's just me and some other people's opinion on this.





To whoever asked the OP, when was the last deal he posted? he has posted atleast 1 deal in the past 3 days which I'm sure is more than you did with your 20 posts or whatever you had. :roll:
 
wow - this thread has it all!!!

**flame-baiting: check
**flaming: check
**stupid race-related comments: check
**sarcasm: check
**criticism of Cheapy for not running his GIVEAWAY CONTEST the way everyone wants it: check
**newbie whining: check
**some kid who's been here for 2 months complaining about too many "newbies" getting in on the contest: check
**a "the storm was rougher on me than on you" argument: check

whoa! I'm away for a bit, and everyone goes crazy!!

BTW, people like me who have been here a long time but don't post 100 times a day have seen some of our posts disappear as old threads are cleared. I (and others) would have way more posts if that weren't the case; I don't give a shit though, because post count here means about as much as my rank on SOCOM 2: nothing!

Cheapy: run the contest however you want, it's yours. hell, run a cock-sucking contest for all i care - it's your site! ;)
 
[quote name='sj41'][quote name='slimpip']Just because I don't post regularly and 2-3 times a day doesn't mean I don't visit the site daily. It's unfair to count out those who aren't as "posty" as others.[/quote]3 posts in over a year of coming to CAG is just wrong. 2 posts not counting the one you just did. I and so many others would call you a lurker. But that's just me and some other people's opinion on this.





To whoever asked the OP, when was the last deal he posted? he has posted atleast 1 deal in the past 3 days which I'm sure is more than you did with your 20 posts or whatever you had. :roll:[/quote]

Well if it makes you feel better I'll be posting more often :) As you can see I have an AVatar and sig now YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
 
Well, maybe this will bring some sort of comfort.

Mods along with Cheapy can track IP adresses. By clicking a button, we can see who else has ever posted from the IP, along with IP's that they have posted from.

So Im sure if Cheapy see's that the winner has 20 different names that have all singed up in the past 2 weeks, they'll get a DQ.
 
It's funny, but that's exactly the reason I didn't enter the contest. I check the site daily, but I've never stumbled across a deal on my own, so I haven't posted much. I could use $200, but I figured it would be better if it went to one of the people who's helped me save some money.
 
wee, good thing i contributed to this site, i think... well, its not fair for somebody to post there first post in a contest, thats like, going to a party only to eat all the food and drink all the drinks and leave. =D me
 
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