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[quote name='spoo']A 4 year delay, what?[/quote]
im guessing summer 2006
im guessing summer 2006
Is PS3 delayed 4 a year???
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[quote name='Stuka']Sony as a company has been going downhill for nearly 5 years and I believe in the red ink for the last 4 or so. They've already started the restructuring process and despite firing people, shifting their workforce, and hiring a new CEO, thus far they aren't faring much better. It will no doubt eventually help Sony out of hole they are in, but how long and how effective is the real question. Projected $5B isn't $5B in their pockets.
Their stock price started going up in November, but you better believe it's going to tumble when spring roles around and PS3 is nowhere to be found. It's on a steady decrease in 06 for the most part.
As for what people have said regarding 'the games division is doing fine, even if the company as whole is not', I say to you, that's reverse of logical thinking. If the plant is rotten but one branch is healthy, do you consider the whole plant or the one branch? People can make all the excuses they want that Sony electronics have so much DRM because of the music and movie divisions that it is hurting business, but it's still real and it's still hurting the business. Who cares what the cause is. Before Columbia Pictures misfired recently, the were the only other divisions along with videogames making a profit, so don't count on them selling off Columbia anytime soon, and if they do, it's even worse than people know. Anyone that doesn't acknowledge Sony is in trouble is either stupid, blind, or they work for Sony. That doesn't mean Sony is dead in the water, but it does mean they have little room for error. With PS3 and Blu-Ray on the way, 2006-2007 could be redemption time for Sony, or it could be a near death blow. Sony as a company may still be around but it may look drastically different in a couple years.[/quote]
wow nice explanation
Their stock price started going up in November, but you better believe it's going to tumble when spring roles around and PS3 is nowhere to be found. It's on a steady decrease in 06 for the most part.
As for what people have said regarding 'the games division is doing fine, even if the company as whole is not', I say to you, that's reverse of logical thinking. If the plant is rotten but one branch is healthy, do you consider the whole plant or the one branch? People can make all the excuses they want that Sony electronics have so much DRM because of the music and movie divisions that it is hurting business, but it's still real and it's still hurting the business. Who cares what the cause is. Before Columbia Pictures misfired recently, the were the only other divisions along with videogames making a profit, so don't count on them selling off Columbia anytime soon, and if they do, it's even worse than people know. Anyone that doesn't acknowledge Sony is in trouble is either stupid, blind, or they work for Sony. That doesn't mean Sony is dead in the water, but it does mean they have little room for error. With PS3 and Blu-Ray on the way, 2006-2007 could be redemption time for Sony, or it could be a near death blow. Sony as a company may still be around but it may look drastically different in a couple years.[/quote]
wow nice explanation
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[quote name='sfriedlander']wow nice explanation[/QUOTE]
Agreed....sorry Maynard I think Stuka also has the right idea and your just in denial....sorry i dont have the time to spell check...if you honestly think blu-ray versions of Devils Rejects at $40 a pop will help Sony...you have lost your mind...and no....apparently your investing/stock thoughts (at least in regards to Sony's gaming division) are not realistic....again it must be due to your bias to Sony....they failed with UMD...and if you were a gamer or at least in the gamer mind set instead of bringing up your masters or that your a restaurant owner or anything else that nobody really cares about, youd know about previous launches, what works and what killed other systems. Like PS3 is scary in that it is playing out like 3DO....back then it was $700 and now this PS3 is following the same trend...you mentioned DVD players...well they were $300 in range and up when they first came out not $1000. So why is anyone gonna buy a Blu-ray player when they can buy a PS3 that plays games and more? Well unless that PS3 is sooo high in price $800-1000 that it is comparable to a stand alone product for people who dont want to play games.
And just like I said and Stuka states as well :
"Anyone that doesn't acknowledge Sony is in trouble is either stupid, blind, or they work for Sony"
Agreed....sorry Maynard I think Stuka also has the right idea and your just in denial....sorry i dont have the time to spell check...if you honestly think blu-ray versions of Devils Rejects at $40 a pop will help Sony...you have lost your mind...and no....apparently your investing/stock thoughts (at least in regards to Sony's gaming division) are not realistic....again it must be due to your bias to Sony....they failed with UMD...and if you were a gamer or at least in the gamer mind set instead of bringing up your masters or that your a restaurant owner or anything else that nobody really cares about, youd know about previous launches, what works and what killed other systems. Like PS3 is scary in that it is playing out like 3DO....back then it was $700 and now this PS3 is following the same trend...you mentioned DVD players...well they were $300 in range and up when they first came out not $1000. So why is anyone gonna buy a Blu-ray player when they can buy a PS3 that plays games and more? Well unless that PS3 is sooo high in price $800-1000 that it is comparable to a stand alone product for people who dont want to play games.
And just like I said and Stuka states as well :
"Anyone that doesn't acknowledge Sony is in trouble is either stupid, blind, or they work for Sony"
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The proliferation of the internet has caused the firestorm of unrational loud arguments from fanbases on anything. Back in the day, during PS1 there were problems doubts etc, During Dreamcast release, magazines had articles bashing and praiseing Sega, but the internet was not so much around to spread stuff before the respective companies were ready for "Leaks" etc to occur.
People really shouldn't jump the gun and begin tirades about Sony VS Microsoft, it would seem so Much more enjoyable if people could rationally converse about their opinion. I am sure after Superman the movie comes out there will be a forum full of Bryan Singer superman vs Richard Donner Superman.
Personally I think Sony is trying harder to make a bigger splash this time, I personally didn't like the Playstation 2 when it was introduced Tekken tag I thought was horrible (For a next gen console) and preferred Tekken 3 on ps1, and thus stuck with my computer until years passed and I looked at consoles again. Today I love the PS2 and Gamecube and after owning Xbox about 2 years ago I sold it after few months,deciding it didn't offer me what I wanted, oddly enough the person I sold it to after playing ninja gaiden for about 2 months become unhappy with xbox and sold it to someone else. But then my fiance, she likes her xbox more than the gamecube and ps2, but then again in her opinion Mortal Kombat Games are better than DOA, TEkken and Soul Calibur series.
My only problem with Sony is their silence. Since "Possibly:Rumor" God of War 2 coming out for Ps2, Black, Driver: Parellel Lines and GT4 rehash with Online, PS2 gamers can be happy if Ps3 is delayed for a few months, Sony just tell us something. With anticipation so high for a PS3 release this year, if Sony waits till E3 to come out and say "sorry folks" no ps3 until next year, their will be great dissapointment and maybe fanboy defections.
People really shouldn't jump the gun and begin tirades about Sony VS Microsoft, it would seem so Much more enjoyable if people could rationally converse about their opinion. I am sure after Superman the movie comes out there will be a forum full of Bryan Singer superman vs Richard Donner Superman.
Personally I think Sony is trying harder to make a bigger splash this time, I personally didn't like the Playstation 2 when it was introduced Tekken tag I thought was horrible (For a next gen console) and preferred Tekken 3 on ps1, and thus stuck with my computer until years passed and I looked at consoles again. Today I love the PS2 and Gamecube and after owning Xbox about 2 years ago I sold it after few months,deciding it didn't offer me what I wanted, oddly enough the person I sold it to after playing ninja gaiden for about 2 months become unhappy with xbox and sold it to someone else. But then my fiance, she likes her xbox more than the gamecube and ps2, but then again in her opinion Mortal Kombat Games are better than DOA, TEkken and Soul Calibur series.
My only problem with Sony is their silence. Since "Possibly:Rumor" God of War 2 coming out for Ps2, Black, Driver: Parellel Lines and GT4 rehash with Online, PS2 gamers can be happy if Ps3 is delayed for a few months, Sony just tell us something. With anticipation so high for a PS3 release this year, if Sony waits till E3 to come out and say "sorry folks" no ps3 until next year, their will be great dissapointment and maybe fanboy defections.
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say they announce an FFVII remake...i think in halo terms that's the equivalent to "boom headshot" or something. they could release the ps3 in the middle of july at $499 and everyone in japan would still buy one. the whole country will buy one regardless. Then, in the U.S., Playstation is still the household name. the fact is, we know nothing untill we get dates, prices, launch titles, screens, vids etc etc etc...
Sony as a company do need to make tons of adjustments and I think our resident master's degree holders speculations that the company will "crash and burn" before the company attempts any of those adjustments is just plain wrong (though I can barely comprehend Daddy's train of thought or grammar, that's my best shot at it.) they have enough room to deal with financial difficulties with one hand and fight the console war with the other. a company that size with it's hands in so many different things doesn't just flop over and die...
Sony as a company do need to make tons of adjustments and I think our resident master's degree holders speculations that the company will "crash and burn" before the company attempts any of those adjustments is just plain wrong (though I can barely comprehend Daddy's train of thought or grammar, that's my best shot at it.) they have enough room to deal with financial difficulties with one hand and fight the console war with the other. a company that size with it's hands in so many different things doesn't just flop over and die...
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Sorry if my spuratic thoughts arent typed the best and you have a good point Ming...but i didnt step on any toes till my man Maynard made some comments to me but i could care less....my crash and burn statement was about their gaming division not Sony as a whole. Nothin looks good for them in the past months from over priced handhelds to UMD failure to $1000 Blu-Ray players to $40 DVD's to $800 or $900 PS3 price tags to delays to options being taken out of there system to higher priced games to remakes of games that have been done 100193938 times.....I bet GTA (fill in the blank) or Gran Turismo (fill in the blank) will be launch titles.....and its no surprise....it doesnt take a "masters" to figure out they are in trouble. As i said before look for a 2007 launch (in the US) as the only way to get them back on track
[quote name='Daddy']Sorry if my spuratic thoughts arent typed the best and you have a good point Ming...but i didnt step on any toes till my man Maynard made some comments to me but i could care less....my crash and burn statement was about their gaming division not Sony as a whole. Nothin looks good for them in the past months from over priced handhelds to UMD failure to $1000 Blu-Ray players to $40 DVD's to $800 or $900 PS3 price tags to delays to options being taken out of there system to higher priced games to remakes of games that have been done 100193938 times.....I bet GTA (fill in the blank) or Gran Turismo (fill in the blank) will be launch titles.....and its no surprise....it doesnt take a "masters" to figure out they are in trouble. As i said before look for a 2007 launch (in the US) as the only way to get them back on track[/QUOTE]
What a completely shit post. Let's go through why:
1. Your typing, grammar, and punctuation is absolute shit. Learn english, please.
2. The price of a standalone Blu-Ray DVD player has no bearing on the price of the PS3. The first Blu-Ray DVD players won't sell that many units (only hardcore videophiles who own HDTVs will probably buy them), so they manufacture less of them, which means the cost to make each one and therefore the final price, goes up. It's called economy of scale.
3. #2's argument also applies to the $40 cost of the movies.
4. There has been no announced PS3 price tag. Everything is just speculation that only dumbasses like you put any stock in.
5. What options were taken out of the system? None. Oh, you mean the router capability? That was never actually announced as part of the system, and was pulled out before the system specs were ever known to the public.
6. Higher priced games? And you know this how exactly?
7. Remakes of games? WTF are you talking about? Do you have some kind of "generate retarded post" extension for Firefox?
8. And somehow you're magically able to know what games are coming out as launch as well. Congratulations, Kreskin.
What a completely shit post. Let's go through why:
1. Your typing, grammar, and punctuation is absolute shit. Learn english, please.
2. The price of a standalone Blu-Ray DVD player has no bearing on the price of the PS3. The first Blu-Ray DVD players won't sell that many units (only hardcore videophiles who own HDTVs will probably buy them), so they manufacture less of them, which means the cost to make each one and therefore the final price, goes up. It's called economy of scale.
3. #2's argument also applies to the $40 cost of the movies.
4. There has been no announced PS3 price tag. Everything is just speculation that only dumbasses like you put any stock in.
5. What options were taken out of the system? None. Oh, you mean the router capability? That was never actually announced as part of the system, and was pulled out before the system specs were ever known to the public.
6. Higher priced games? And you know this how exactly?
7. Remakes of games? WTF are you talking about? Do you have some kind of "generate retarded post" extension for Firefox?
8. And somehow you're magically able to know what games are coming out as launch as well. Congratulations, Kreskin.
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[quote name='Daddy']Sorry if my spuratic thoughts arent typed the best and you have a good point Ming...but i didnt step on any toes till my man Maynard made some comments to me but i could care less....my crash and burn statement was about their gaming division not Sony as a whole. Nothin looks good for them in the past months from over priced handhelds to UMD failure to $1000 Blu-Ray players to $40 DVD's to $800 or $900 PS3 price tags to delays to options being taken out of there system to higher priced games to remakes of games that have been done 100193938 times.....I bet GTA (fill in the blank) or Gran Turismo (fill in the blank) will be launch titles.....and its no surprise....it doesnt take a "masters" to figure out they are in trouble. As i said before look for a 2007 launch (in the US) as the only way to get them back on track[/QUOTE]
no problem, there's a lot of rumors and speculation, it's really too early to say. but I don't think it would take much for the ps3 to be successful-- an xmas '06 launch at $399 with a few good games would clinch it.
no problem, there's a lot of rumors and speculation, it's really too early to say. but I don't think it would take much for the ps3 to be successful-- an xmas '06 launch at $399 with a few good games would clinch it.
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[quote name='Daddy']Sorry if my spuratic thoughts arent typed the best and you have a good point Ming...but i didnt step on any toes till my man Maynard made some comments to me but i could care less....my crash and burn statement was about their gaming division not Sony as a whole. Nothin looks good for them in the past months from over priced handhelds to UMD failure to $1000 Blu-Ray players to $40 DVD's to $800 or $900 PS3 price tags to delays to options being taken out of there system to higher priced games to remakes of games that have been done 100193938 times.....I bet GTA (fill in the blank) or Gran Turismo (fill in the blank) will be launch titles.....and its no surprise....it doesnt take a "masters" to figure out they are in trouble. As i said before look for a 2007 launch (in the US) as the only way to get them back on track[/quote]
I have to agree UMD, I believe is a failure to reference another post about the Microsoft Handheld rumors, I never really understand the handheld market to begin with. I cann't comprehend why someone would want to play Resident Evil/GTA/Tekken on a handheld only quickie (Games called in the Old day quarter munchers) games I can understand Tetris/Nintendogs etc. And to watch portable movies in teh long run a portable dvd player is way cheaper. I hate to repeat what many have said but no matter who makes the game system, a game system is that a game system and anything else should be coincidence.
And Launch Games for any system shouldn't be a new version/sequel in my mind, Especially considering Launch titles usually don't fair well later in the consoles life. Ps3 launch Titles rumored or other wise I am looking forward to MotorStorm Storm/StrangleHold/I-8 and Unreal 2007 (only if keybord/mouse supported) all original versions in their respective genres. Please Sony Confirm for us some information on the PS3.
I have to agree UMD, I believe is a failure to reference another post about the Microsoft Handheld rumors, I never really understand the handheld market to begin with. I cann't comprehend why someone would want to play Resident Evil/GTA/Tekken on a handheld only quickie (Games called in the Old day quarter munchers) games I can understand Tetris/Nintendogs etc. And to watch portable movies in teh long run a portable dvd player is way cheaper. I hate to repeat what many have said but no matter who makes the game system, a game system is that a game system and anything else should be coincidence.
And Launch Games for any system shouldn't be a new version/sequel in my mind, Especially considering Launch titles usually don't fair well later in the consoles life. Ps3 launch Titles rumored or other wise I am looking forward to MotorStorm Storm/StrangleHold/I-8 and Unreal 2007 (only if keybord/mouse supported) all original versions in their respective genres. Please Sony Confirm for us some information on the PS3.
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Ok evenft.....anyway how do I know what games they will have...hmmm what was Sony's killer app that made you have to buy a system (PS2) lately....none...while God of war and SOTC were cool games they were not worth buying the system for it alone...and while Nintendo can get away with Mario, Sony on the other hand doesnt have that kinda game. They redo Tekken,and GTA or FF maybe....it would be nice if they had a stand alone "exclusive" title that was mind blowing....but they dont...hopefully at E3 they produce that and again not here to argue and your wasting your time doing it...if you dont agree then just put your reasons. As of now if you are a Fanboy or you hate Sony it really doesnt matter b/c they have nothing positive to say,announce or do but copy other companies... IE- Nintendo or MS..... and hope there fanbase doesnt care that they do it (IE- Playstation HUB). I enjoy all of the systems but PS2 did fade out for me without a strong online component, Nintendo has always been innovative and taken the steps to awe gamers and hope they do a sweet launch and are sucessful....as for Sony all i see is a system that wont turn out to be much stronger if any then Xbox 360 and a launch date far far away with a higher pricetag and harder to develop for. By then there will be so many Xbox 360 titles why change to PS3? So I can play backwards copies of old games? Anywho we shall see who is right and who is wrong in 2 and 1/2 months at E3....i'll be more than happy to "qoute" you then and if your right feel free to qoute me....but till then you really havent showed me much reason as to why your right...just lame excues like my typing or "forecasting" of games and pricing speculation.
PS- Game of the year was Resident Evil 4, and it was worth buying a copy of the game and the system to play
PS- Game of the year was Resident Evil 4, and it was worth buying a copy of the game and the system to play
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Hey Daddy......
I had to say this in response to your Location, I am sure you will get it if the rest don't.
"well You got time to Duck"
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"This stuff will make you a sexual Tyrannosaurus. Just like me!"
I had to say this in response to your Location, I am sure you will get it if the rest don't.
"well You got time to Duck"
and
"This stuff will make you a sexual Tyrannosaurus. Just like me!"
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Well Daddy
I had to say this in response to your Location, I am sure you will get it if the rest don't.
"well You got time to Duck"
and
"This stuff will make you a sexual Tyrannosaurus. Just like me!"
I had to say this in response to your Location, I am sure you will get it if the rest don't.
"well You got time to Duck"
and
"This stuff will make you a sexual Tyrannosaurus. Just like me!"
[quote name='Daddy']Ok evenft.....anyway how do I know what games they will have...hmmm what was Sony's killer app that made you have to buy a system (PS2) lately....none...while God of war and SOTC were cool games they were not worth buying the system for it alone[/QUOTE]
Yes, they were. But most people already own a PS2 (they DID sell 100 million consoles, after all) so that point is pretty much invalid.
Also, how the
can you mess up my username? It's right in ing front of you, dipshit.
[quote name='Daddy']...and while Nintendo can get away with Mario, Sony on the other hand doesnt have that kinda game. They redo Tekken,and GTA or FF maybe....it would be nice if they had a stand alone "exclusive" title that was mind blowing....but they dont...hopefully at E3 they produce that and again not here to argue and your wasting your time doing it...if you dont agree then just put your reasons. [/QUOTE]
Because Sony makes Tekken, GTA, and FF? Oh wait, they don't. Namco, Rockstar, and Square-Enix do.
Of course, Sony has Guitar Hero, God of War, SOTC, Amplitude, Tekken 5, Devil May Cry 3, Virtua Fighter 4, etc.
[quote name='Daddy']As of now if you are a Fanboy or you hate Sony it really doesnt matter b/c they have nothing positive to say,announce or do but copy other companies... IE- Nintendo or MS..... and hope there fanbase doesnt care that they do it (IE- Playstation HUB). [/QUOTE]
WTF are you trying to say? Your inability to present your arguments clearly shows a distinct lack of intelligence.
[quote name='Daddy']I enjoy all of the systems but PS2 did fade out for me without a strong online component, Nintendo has always been innovative and taken the steps to awe gamers and hope they do a sweet launch and are sucessful....as for Sony all i see is a system that wont turn out to be much stronger if any then Xbox 360 and a launch date far far away with a higher pricetag and harder to develop for. [/QUOTE]
Look! More speculation! Congratulations!
[quote name='Daddy']By then there will be so many Xbox 360 titles why change to PS3? So I can play backwards copies of old games? Anywho we shall see who is right and who is wrong in 2 and 1/2 months at E3....i'll be more than happy to "qoute" you then and if your right feel free to qoute me....but till then you really havent showed me much reason as to why your right...just lame excues like my typing or "forecasting" of games and pricing speculation.[/QUOTE]
Here's the problem: Everything you say has been random bullshit or speculation. Your posts are so cluttered and unintelligable that it makes it impossible to deciper any sort of point you're trying to make.
Yes, they were. But most people already own a PS2 (they DID sell 100 million consoles, after all) so that point is pretty much invalid.
Also, how the
can you mess up my username? It's right in ing front of you, dipshit.[quote name='Daddy']...and while Nintendo can get away with Mario, Sony on the other hand doesnt have that kinda game. They redo Tekken,and GTA or FF maybe....it would be nice if they had a stand alone "exclusive" title that was mind blowing....but they dont...hopefully at E3 they produce that and again not here to argue and your wasting your time doing it...if you dont agree then just put your reasons. [/QUOTE]
Because Sony makes Tekken, GTA, and FF? Oh wait, they don't. Namco, Rockstar, and Square-Enix do.
Of course, Sony has Guitar Hero, God of War, SOTC, Amplitude, Tekken 5, Devil May Cry 3, Virtua Fighter 4, etc.
[quote name='Daddy']As of now if you are a Fanboy or you hate Sony it really doesnt matter b/c they have nothing positive to say,announce or do but copy other companies... IE- Nintendo or MS..... and hope there fanbase doesnt care that they do it (IE- Playstation HUB). [/QUOTE]
WTF are you trying to say? Your inability to present your arguments clearly shows a distinct lack of intelligence.
[quote name='Daddy']I enjoy all of the systems but PS2 did fade out for me without a strong online component, Nintendo has always been innovative and taken the steps to awe gamers and hope they do a sweet launch and are sucessful....as for Sony all i see is a system that wont turn out to be much stronger if any then Xbox 360 and a launch date far far away with a higher pricetag and harder to develop for. [/QUOTE]
Look! More speculation! Congratulations!
[quote name='Daddy']By then there will be so many Xbox 360 titles why change to PS3? So I can play backwards copies of old games? Anywho we shall see who is right and who is wrong in 2 and 1/2 months at E3....i'll be more than happy to "qoute" you then and if your right feel free to qoute me....but till then you really havent showed me much reason as to why your right...just lame excues like my typing or "forecasting" of games and pricing speculation.[/QUOTE]
Here's the problem: Everything you say has been random bullshit or speculation. Your posts are so cluttered and unintelligable that it makes it impossible to deciper any sort of point you're trying to make.
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Who says i messed up posting your name evan...eheheh...sure got ya mad...lol....im done with you, your wasting my time....oh yeah tekken 5....listen to that in your head...Part.5....yeah b/c you have new what in a part 5 of that game? Outfits?....bahbahba....ok then...thanks for proving my point for me
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I enjoy all of the systems but PS2 did fade out for me without a strong online component, Nintendo has always been innovative and taken the steps to awe gamers and hope they do a sweet launch and are sucessful....as for Sony all i see is a system that wont turn out to be much stronger if any then Xbox 360 and a launch date far far away with a higher pricetag and harder to develop for.
How is that speculation? i said it faded out for me...my opinion....Nintendo has always been innovative....controllers,Mario,Zelda,Mike Tysons Punch out,Metriod....and a laundry list of other reasons..again not speculation....Its already been said that its hard to develop for by multiple dev's and the launch date is far away and the price tag isnt gonna be cheap ...even stated by Sony....again not speculation....your losin it
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Originally Posted by Daddy
As of now if you are a Fanboy or you hate Sony it really doesnt matter b/c they have nothing positive to say,announce or do but copy other companies... IE- Nintendo or MS..... and hope there fanbase doesnt care that they do it (IE- Playstation HUB).
Have you not been a gamer for long? Sony copies other companies like its going out of style....always have and always will...if i really have to give you examples past the Playstation HUB perhaps your not much of a gamer or your new to gaming? Im sure if you start a thread or ask some people in here to give you examples of how Sony copies Nintendo or MS it shouldn't be too hard. Again not trying to bash you but your not really paying attention here wether its my typing or someone else's...again i'll assume its b/c you love Sony or something....
Oh and in case you wanna talk about 100mill units....what was Sony's first competition? N64.....playstation 1 was an obvious choice....oh anyone miss thier good old dreamcast.....
Then it was gamcube vs. PS2..again pretty easy choice at first (PS2 also had backwards comp games)....now you have nintendo putting out games like Resident evil 4 on gamecube...and getting game of the year .....also now then there was Xbox vs. PS2 as well...now Sony is seeing the competition just like any business now adays....gone are the easy days of business...even in gaming...now he shoe is on the other foot for them and they are comin out of the door last for once...so dont tell me about numbers overall when there wasnt much competition for a nice hunk of those numbers. Dont get me wrong i've owned every system except for 3DO (rented one back in the day when you could) so i cant say Sony wasnt my go-to-system for some time...but they are NOT LOOKING GOOD....just admit it
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Originally Posted by Daddy
I enjoy all of the systems but PS2 did fade out for me without a strong online component, Nintendo has always been innovative and taken the steps to awe gamers and hope they do a sweet launch and are sucessful....as for Sony all i see is a system that wont turn out to be much stronger if any then Xbox 360 and a launch date far far away with a higher pricetag and harder to develop for.
How is that speculation? i said it faded out for me...my opinion....Nintendo has always been innovative....controllers,Mario,Zelda,Mike Tysons Punch out,Metriod....and a laundry list of other reasons..again not speculation....Its already been said that its hard to develop for by multiple dev's and the launch date is far away and the price tag isnt gonna be cheap ...even stated by Sony....again not speculation....your losin it
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Originally Posted by Daddy
As of now if you are a Fanboy or you hate Sony it really doesnt matter b/c they have nothing positive to say,announce or do but copy other companies... IE- Nintendo or MS..... and hope there fanbase doesnt care that they do it (IE- Playstation HUB).
Have you not been a gamer for long? Sony copies other companies like its going out of style....always have and always will...if i really have to give you examples past the Playstation HUB perhaps your not much of a gamer or your new to gaming? Im sure if you start a thread or ask some people in here to give you examples of how Sony copies Nintendo or MS it shouldn't be too hard. Again not trying to bash you but your not really paying attention here wether its my typing or someone else's...again i'll assume its b/c you love Sony or something....
Oh and in case you wanna talk about 100mill units....what was Sony's first competition? N64.....playstation 1 was an obvious choice....oh anyone miss thier good old dreamcast.....
Then it was gamcube vs. PS2..again pretty easy choice at first (PS2 also had backwards comp games)....now you have nintendo putting out games like Resident evil 4 on gamecube...and getting game of the year .....also now then there was Xbox vs. PS2 as well...now Sony is seeing the competition just like any business now adays....gone are the easy days of business...even in gaming...now he shoe is on the other foot for them and they are comin out of the door last for once...so dont tell me about numbers overall when there wasnt much competition for a nice hunk of those numbers. Dont get me wrong i've owned every system except for 3DO (rented one back in the day when you could) so i cant say Sony wasnt my go-to-system for some time...but they are NOT LOOKING GOOD....just admit it
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Just curious general question how can a person be a fan of the Awesome Death Metal Band Celtic Frost and then be a Fan of horrific rap stuff like Snoop Dog.
[quote name='Daddy']Who says i messed up posting your name...eheheh...sure got ya mad...lol....im done with you, your wasting my time....oh yeah tekken 5....listen to that in your head...pt.5....yeah b/c you have new? outfits?....bahbahba....ok then...thanks for proving my point for me[/QUOTE]
What are you, stupid? The gameplay in Tekken 5 is greatly enhanced over others in the series and is head and shoulders above most fighting games.
[quote name='Daddy']
How is that speculation? i said it faded out for me...my opinion....Nintendo has always been innovative....controllers,Mario,Zelda,Mike Tysons Punch out,Metriod....and a laundry list of other reasons..again not speculation....[/QUOTE]
Nintendo has done nothing really innovative this gen besides Pikmin, Animal Crossing, and the DS.
[quote name='Daddy']Its already been said that its hard to develop for by multiple dev's [/QUOTE]
Because how difficult a system is to develop for when dev kits haven't been in the hands of game makers for that long is exactly how difficult it will be over the entire life of the system?
[quote name='Daddy']and the launch date is far away [/QUOTE]
Oh my, the launch date is a whole 10 or 11 months away!!! What ever will I do to occupy myself during such a long period of time!!! Oh mercy!!!
[quote name='Daddy']and the price tag isnt gonna be cheap ...even stated by Sony....again not speculation....your losin it[/QUOTE]
So let me get this straight: Sony says something about the release date, quality of games, etc., and you think it's BS. But when Ken Kutaragi makes some random remark about the system being expensive (which of course could mean completely different things in Japan than in the U.S.), you believe that? BRILLIANT!
[quote name='mercilessming']Just curious general question how can a person be a fan of the Awesome Death Metal Band Celtic Frost and then be a Fan of horrific rap stuff like Snoop Dog.[/QUOTE]
Celctic Frost is in that sig pic? I think it's only Immortal and Darkthrone. I have the Snoop Dogg avatar because I find it amusing that he's wearing a Metallica shirt and giving the horns.
Celctic Frost isn't death metal, BTW, they're black metal.
What are you, stupid? The gameplay in Tekken 5 is greatly enhanced over others in the series and is head and shoulders above most fighting games.
[quote name='Daddy']
How is that speculation? i said it faded out for me...my opinion....Nintendo has always been innovative....controllers,Mario,Zelda,Mike Tysons Punch out,Metriod....and a laundry list of other reasons..again not speculation....[/QUOTE]
Nintendo has done nothing really innovative this gen besides Pikmin, Animal Crossing, and the DS.
[quote name='Daddy']Its already been said that its hard to develop for by multiple dev's [/QUOTE]
Because how difficult a system is to develop for when dev kits haven't been in the hands of game makers for that long is exactly how difficult it will be over the entire life of the system?
[quote name='Daddy']and the launch date is far away [/QUOTE]
Oh my, the launch date is a whole 10 or 11 months away!!! What ever will I do to occupy myself during such a long period of time!!! Oh mercy!!!
[quote name='Daddy']and the price tag isnt gonna be cheap ...even stated by Sony....again not speculation....your losin it[/QUOTE]
So let me get this straight: Sony says something about the release date, quality of games, etc., and you think it's BS. But when Ken Kutaragi makes some random remark about the system being expensive (which of course could mean completely different things in Japan than in the U.S.), you believe that? BRILLIANT!
[quote name='mercilessming']Just curious general question how can a person be a fan of the Awesome Death Metal Band Celtic Frost and then be a Fan of horrific rap stuff like Snoop Dog.[/QUOTE]
Celctic Frost is in that sig pic? I think it's only Immortal and Darkthrone. I have the Snoop Dogg avatar because I find it amusing that he's wearing a Metallica shirt and giving the horns.
Celctic Frost isn't death metal, BTW, they're black metal.
Daddy
CAGiversary!
Evan gimmie a break when the head of a company says its gonna be expensive i highly doubt thats a lie or a way to get people to buy it...unless that is your using the Cartman Land theory?....we are open but you cant come in!
PS- No more time to argue with evanft and his Celctic Frost and a guy whos avatar says he likes to masturbate
PS- No more time to argue with evanft and his Celctic Frost and a guy whos avatar says he likes to masturbate
mercilessming
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Celctic Frost is in that sig pic? I think it's only Immortal and Darkthrone. I have the Snoop Dogg avatar because I find it amusing that he's wearing a Metallica shirt and giving the horns.
Celctic Frost isn't death metal, BTW, they're black metal.
my bad, thought is was Celtic Frost, anyway never used black metal always use heavy metal and Death metal for genre descriptions, cool I was just worried for a sec, cann't stand it when Heavy Metal Fans are fans of rap crap. Always Believe Rap destroyed Metal because American youths thought it was cool to be "urban ganstas" when they usually grew up in 2 parent mid income or better suburban homes,(sex, drugs, rock n roll, satan, chaos, anti-goverment is universal...pimping/9mms/losing "brothers" to drive bys and rivals only happens to most people in video games):lol:
Any Way March 28 Rob Zombies New Album is released and The best Hard Rockers BuckCherry are back and their new Album is released in Japan and coming to american this quarter.
Man o man, reading daddy's post is makes me feel good about my education. Daddy you officially are the man who flips burgers at McDonalds and your 34 and call it a career.
[quote name='Daddy']Hahah... ok...i think your schooling is getting to your head....considering i already have a masters and already have a career....i dont need you to even comment grasshopper and why dont you say ROI if your gonna use examples.[/quote]
Daddy I have asked many times and you continue to dodge the question, where and when did you achieve your masters degree. The way you type sounds like you can't be older than 18 and you've achieved your Book IT! degree from Pizza Hut.
Listen, like Stuka said Sony is in trouble, fine and dandy. They still have plenty of cash in hand and you gotta spend money to make money guys, debt is always a good thing for companies. As for sony going down, or "crashing and burning" its not gonna happen.
I having a hard time reading your posts daddy, and in response to them i guess I could type ajdslk;fl;jwoiefnoriawe and you would probably still find something to talk about. As for me being a gamer I have been playing games since intellivision, which was my first system, and never stopped since than. I've bought almost every system, with exception to 3DO, on launch day. Lets not start pulling out our wangs and seeing who's is longer k? Blue - Ray is a whole different conversation, yeah its going to be expensive when it launches, but whomever said that the videophiles will buy it is exactly right. I remember working at United Audio (extrememly high end video/audio equipment) when the first DVD player came out. You now how much it retailed for? $799 and it was a Sony, we had over 100 units and sold them all within the week. DVD players dropped in price fast, but they weren't launching too cheap. I personally prefer Blue - Ray, but for different reasons I.E computer storage. I will personally put my brand new spanking 3 million dollar restaurant on the line saying that PS3 will not launch for more than $500. Why do we fight about launch price and date though? Sony is being really quiet about it and if anything its only angering the hardcore gamers and hyping it up for others. I remember when I was just running an EB last year and we had SO many calls as to when they could reserve a PS3 it wasn't even funny. Playstation is a household brand and not acknowledging that is asinine.
As for saying there were no games to buy a PS2 for God of War, Devil May Cry 3, Guitar Hero, SOTC, Resident Evil 4 S.E, and good lord I could keep on going. I sold a TON of PS2's this christmas and a vast majority of them included one of those games. Lets not forget GTA, which is like a cult wherever it goes the gamers follow.
Overpriced handhelds? Handheld PS2, portable media player, music player, and now homebrew player for roms yet PSP is overpriced? What is your career that you find this so overpriced? Plus we would be lucky to get a next gen version of GTA for launch. I would take a GT5 for launch too, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE HUGE popularity of those games? If anything your rooting Sony or should i say [quote name='Daddy']routing[/quote]. If those games launched were talking massive crazy people dying to get the newest GTA, come on man at least thing before typing. I can't imagine talking to you in real life, do you have tourettes?
[quote name='Daddy']They redo tekken and GTA or FF maybe..........it would be nice if they had a stand alone "exclusive" title that was mind blowing[/quote] YOU RETARD GTA is HUGE and IS EXCLUSIVE WHEN IT RELEASES! Have you heard about Warhawk? Looked at it? What about Lair? Those are just two exclusives. I'm dying to see a picture of you! I want to see if you look like i imagine.
[quote name='daddy']Sony copies other companies like its going out of style....always have and always will...if i really have to give you examples past the Playstation HUB perhaps your not much of a gamer or your new to gaming?[/quote]
Perhaps you forget how the Playstation came about, Nintendo rejected their idea for a Cd based system. What did the big N do next, a cartridge system, look how far that got them. Seriously Daddy I'm starting to feel bad for you and your family. [quote name='daddy']Now you have nintendo putting out games like Resident evil 4 on the gamecube [/quote] Nintendo is LUCKY that even happened, lets not forget how unhappy Capcom was with their success with GC. To this date RE4 has almost surpassed GC sales on PS2, gimme a break man.
well hopefully you continue responding daddy, its fun to read your posts and forward them to people in emails. Where did you get your masters and where do you work "career" remember?
[quote name='Daddy']Hahah... ok...i think your schooling is getting to your head....considering i already have a masters and already have a career....i dont need you to even comment grasshopper and why dont you say ROI if your gonna use examples.[/quote]
Daddy I have asked many times and you continue to dodge the question, where and when did you achieve your masters degree. The way you type sounds like you can't be older than 18 and you've achieved your Book IT! degree from Pizza Hut.
Listen, like Stuka said Sony is in trouble, fine and dandy. They still have plenty of cash in hand and you gotta spend money to make money guys, debt is always a good thing for companies. As for sony going down, or "crashing and burning" its not gonna happen.
I having a hard time reading your posts daddy, and in response to them i guess I could type ajdslk;fl;jwoiefnoriawe and you would probably still find something to talk about. As for me being a gamer I have been playing games since intellivision, which was my first system, and never stopped since than. I've bought almost every system, with exception to 3DO, on launch day. Lets not start pulling out our wangs and seeing who's is longer k? Blue - Ray is a whole different conversation, yeah its going to be expensive when it launches, but whomever said that the videophiles will buy it is exactly right. I remember working at United Audio (extrememly high end video/audio equipment) when the first DVD player came out. You now how much it retailed for? $799 and it was a Sony, we had over 100 units and sold them all within the week. DVD players dropped in price fast, but they weren't launching too cheap. I personally prefer Blue - Ray, but for different reasons I.E computer storage. I will personally put my brand new spanking 3 million dollar restaurant on the line saying that PS3 will not launch for more than $500. Why do we fight about launch price and date though? Sony is being really quiet about it and if anything its only angering the hardcore gamers and hyping it up for others. I remember when I was just running an EB last year and we had SO many calls as to when they could reserve a PS3 it wasn't even funny. Playstation is a household brand and not acknowledging that is asinine.
As for saying there were no games to buy a PS2 for God of War, Devil May Cry 3, Guitar Hero, SOTC, Resident Evil 4 S.E, and good lord I could keep on going. I sold a TON of PS2's this christmas and a vast majority of them included one of those games. Lets not forget GTA, which is like a cult wherever it goes the gamers follow.
Overpriced handhelds? Handheld PS2, portable media player, music player, and now homebrew player for roms yet PSP is overpriced? What is your career that you find this so overpriced? Plus we would be lucky to get a next gen version of GTA for launch. I would take a GT5 for launch too, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE HUGE popularity of those games? If anything your rooting Sony or should i say [quote name='Daddy']routing[/quote]. If those games launched were talking massive crazy people dying to get the newest GTA, come on man at least thing before typing. I can't imagine talking to you in real life, do you have tourettes?
[quote name='Daddy']They redo tekken and GTA or FF maybe..........it would be nice if they had a stand alone "exclusive" title that was mind blowing[/quote] YOU RETARD GTA is HUGE and IS EXCLUSIVE WHEN IT RELEASES! Have you heard about Warhawk? Looked at it? What about Lair? Those are just two exclusives. I'm dying to see a picture of you! I want to see if you look like i imagine.
[quote name='daddy']Sony copies other companies like its going out of style....always have and always will...if i really have to give you examples past the Playstation HUB perhaps your not much of a gamer or your new to gaming?[/quote]
Perhaps you forget how the Playstation came about, Nintendo rejected their idea for a Cd based system. What did the big N do next, a cartridge system, look how far that got them. Seriously Daddy I'm starting to feel bad for you and your family. [quote name='daddy']Now you have nintendo putting out games like Resident evil 4 on the gamecube [/quote] Nintendo is LUCKY that even happened, lets not forget how unhappy Capcom was with their success with GC. To this date RE4 has almost surpassed GC sales on PS2, gimme a break man.
well hopefully you continue responding daddy, its fun to read your posts and forward them to people in emails. Where did you get your masters and where do you work "career" remember?
Daddy
CAGiversary!
Oh man Maynard you just cant let it go....
Maynard says:
"Nintendo is LUCKY that even happened, lets not forget how unhappy Capcom was with their success with GC. To this date RE4 has almost surpassed GC sales on PS2, gimme a break man."
Again a PORT from another system....if 100 mill people own a PS2 OF COURSe they will buy the game of the year (RE4 that ported to their system...idiot, im sure if HALO (not that it would ever happen) were available for PS2...its would sell through the roof as well.
You ask me about my career or education? Again I dont believe a word you say, more so than anyone due to the fact you bring up "masters" or you avatar says "restaurant owner" or that it cost 3 mill. Its a forum...you could say you were a ladies man too while your at it.......you say you wanna see what I look like?.....again...the place is for gaming....not your ghey Match.com love profile....
You post about my comment that the PSP is overpriced......yeah it is...a 4 gig duo pro and a PSP is $500 total....and it still has less memory then perhaps a ZEN or any other portable Media player....and yet people buy it b/c they "thought" they would get good games....but instead they got "ports" of PS2 games? Again i think you are in denial....I have a PSP, thank god i didnt pay for it....
You of all people (if you actually worked at United Audio) should know you were selling high end players...even then i said the higher end went to $700...the low end was $300ish. Then not enough people hopped on that DVD player technology and they dropped in price FAST.
Then you qoute me about Playstation HUB and how Nintendo Gamecube came about....ummm did you forget about SEGA???? Apparently...b/c they had a little system that was CD based and failed pretty bad...it was called SEGA CD...and that is why nintendo passed up....so dont try to make it like Sony came up with CD based gaming....psssss...this conversation has gone from stupid to ghey.....your a waste of time to talk to and thank god I never walked into the EB you were "running". I guess you scratched off a lottery ticket and won and bought a restaurant...bahbhba.
Then you say:
"As for saying there were no games to buy a PS2 for God of War, Devil May Cry 3, Guitar Hero, SOTC, Resident Evil 4 S.E, and good lord I could keep on going. I sold a TON of PS2's this christmas and a vast majority of them included one of those games. Lets not forget GTA, which is like a cult wherever it goes the gamers follow."
Ok lets see:
God of War- good game,done well, not better than RE4
Devil may cry....PART 3...done and done again
Guitar Hero...I will admit fun game...just dont let anyone tape you playing it
SOTC- Great Idea, pretty good game, choppy in parts
RE4- its a PORT, and actually looks better on Gamecube!
These titles are how ever the best PS2 has to offer so if you have a PS2 of course these are your titles to stand by and defend if you own a PS2, and i understand that
None of thes games are KILLER apps, they are fun but on an old outdated system that was #1 in gaming for quite sometime with a very large fanbase....again none of these would make me go buy a system right now just so i could play them. As for Sony launching with another GTA...its just overdone....i hope they work something new into the game...not just a shiner version of a game already done...I hope the same about titles on any system...even Halo3. Next gen has great capabilities for GAMEPLAY not just graphics....hopefully they cater to both...but gameplay is what im looking for
PS- Like Daroga said "Wow... can we please just shut up and wait till we're into the next genereation and see what comes of it then?" so stop posting ghey comments and let it go
Maynard says:
"Nintendo is LUCKY that even happened, lets not forget how unhappy Capcom was with their success with GC. To this date RE4 has almost surpassed GC sales on PS2, gimme a break man."
Again a PORT from another system....if 100 mill people own a PS2 OF COURSe they will buy the game of the year (RE4 that ported to their system...idiot, im sure if HALO (not that it would ever happen) were available for PS2...its would sell through the roof as well.
You ask me about my career or education? Again I dont believe a word you say, more so than anyone due to the fact you bring up "masters" or you avatar says "restaurant owner" or that it cost 3 mill. Its a forum...you could say you were a ladies man too while your at it.......you say you wanna see what I look like?.....again...the place is for gaming....not your ghey Match.com love profile....
You post about my comment that the PSP is overpriced......yeah it is...a 4 gig duo pro and a PSP is $500 total....and it still has less memory then perhaps a ZEN or any other portable Media player....and yet people buy it b/c they "thought" they would get good games....but instead they got "ports" of PS2 games? Again i think you are in denial....I have a PSP, thank god i didnt pay for it....
You of all people (if you actually worked at United Audio) should know you were selling high end players...even then i said the higher end went to $700...the low end was $300ish. Then not enough people hopped on that DVD player technology and they dropped in price FAST.
Then you qoute me about Playstation HUB and how Nintendo Gamecube came about....ummm did you forget about SEGA???? Apparently...b/c they had a little system that was CD based and failed pretty bad...it was called SEGA CD...and that is why nintendo passed up....so dont try to make it like Sony came up with CD based gaming....psssss...this conversation has gone from stupid to ghey.....your a waste of time to talk to and thank god I never walked into the EB you were "running". I guess you scratched off a lottery ticket and won and bought a restaurant...bahbhba.
Then you say:
"As for saying there were no games to buy a PS2 for God of War, Devil May Cry 3, Guitar Hero, SOTC, Resident Evil 4 S.E, and good lord I could keep on going. I sold a TON of PS2's this christmas and a vast majority of them included one of those games. Lets not forget GTA, which is like a cult wherever it goes the gamers follow."
Ok lets see:
God of War- good game,done well, not better than RE4
Devil may cry....PART 3...done and done again
Guitar Hero...I will admit fun game...just dont let anyone tape you playing it
SOTC- Great Idea, pretty good game, choppy in parts
RE4- its a PORT, and actually looks better on Gamecube!
These titles are how ever the best PS2 has to offer so if you have a PS2 of course these are your titles to stand by and defend if you own a PS2, and i understand that
None of thes games are KILLER apps, they are fun but on an old outdated system that was #1 in gaming for quite sometime with a very large fanbase....again none of these would make me go buy a system right now just so i could play them. As for Sony launching with another GTA...its just overdone....i hope they work something new into the game...not just a shiner version of a game already done...I hope the same about titles on any system...even Halo3. Next gen has great capabilities for GAMEPLAY not just graphics....hopefully they cater to both...but gameplay is what im looking for
PS- Like Daroga said "Wow... can we please just shut up and wait till we're into the next genereation and see what comes of it then?" so stop posting ghey comments and let it go
You know daddy going through your posts you pretty much bleed idiocy. If you need to see my diploma's I do have them hung in my office, if you want pictures of my restaurant I'll link them in the forum I made in off topic. The fact that you said you had a masters and a career is laughable at best.
Heres what you have a career in, trolling.
I am not to sure what you have against sony, maybe they orphaned you as a child. Maybe they had sex with your mother while she was married, or maybe Ken Kutaragi showed up at your door and kicked you in the head as a small child resulting in the inability to form complete thoughts/sentences. One thing is for sure, all you do is find posts about ANYTHING sony and put in your worthless two cents. The funny thing is everywhere you post you post the same shit. PS3 will fail, too expensive, sell your psp why you can. Listen in between flipping burgers or making taco's think outside the box. Ha isn't that a fast food slogan! (no pun intended!)
I hope PS3 is everything i'm hoping for, and I hope that revolution really is revolutionary to gaming and not just some gimmick (only system i'm 50/50 on still). And lastly lets hope that the Phantom just disappears from gaming forever, and daddy to while were at it, you disappear to.
Heres what you have a career in, trolling.
I am not to sure what you have against sony, maybe they orphaned you as a child. Maybe they had sex with your mother while she was married, or maybe Ken Kutaragi showed up at your door and kicked you in the head as a small child resulting in the inability to form complete thoughts/sentences. One thing is for sure, all you do is find posts about ANYTHING sony and put in your worthless two cents. The funny thing is everywhere you post you post the same shit. PS3 will fail, too expensive, sell your psp why you can. Listen in between flipping burgers or making taco's think outside the box. Ha isn't that a fast food slogan! (no pun intended!)
I hope PS3 is everything i'm hoping for, and I hope that revolution really is revolutionary to gaming and not just some gimmick (only system i'm 50/50 on still). And lastly lets hope that the Phantom just disappears from gaming forever, and daddy to while were at it, you disappear to.
[quote name='Daddy']Oh man Maynard you just cant let it go....
Maynard says:
"Nintendo is LUCKY that even happened, lets not forget how unhappy Capcom was with their success with GC. To this date RE4 has almost surpassed GC sales on PS2, gimme a break man."
Again a PORT from another system....if 100 mill people own a PS2 OF COURSe they will buy the game of the year (RE4 that ported to their system...idiot, im sure if HALO (not that it would ever happen) were available for PS2...its would sell through the roof as well. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, and? What's your point? Capcom had to port it in order to make a decent amount of money.
[quote name='Daddy']You ask me about my career or education? Again I dont believe a word you say, more so than anyone due to the fact you bring up "masters" or you avatar says "restaurant owner" or that it cost 3 mill. Its a forum...you could say you were a ladies man too while your at it.......you say you wanna see what I look like?.....again...the place is for gaming....not your ghey Match.com love profile....[/QUOTE]
Well aren't youing retarded.
[quote name='Daddy']You post about my comment that the PSP is overpriced......yeah it is...a 4 gig duo pro and a PSP is $500 total....and it still has less memory then perhaps a ZEN or any other portable Media player....and yet people buy it b/c they "thought" they would get good games....but instead they got "ports" of PS2 games? Again i think you are in denial....I have a PSP, thank god i didnt pay for it....[/QUOTE]
So, let me get this straight: Your definition of "expensive" for the PSP includes an OPTIONAL and uneccesary add-on? Way to go.
[quote name='Daddy']You of all people (if you actually worked at United Audio) should know you were selling high end players...even then i said the higher end went to $700...the low end was $300ish. Then not enough people hopped on that DVD player technology and they dropped in price FAST. [/QUOTE]
He just said that they sold quite well and then they dropped. They dropped because the demand was high enough that economies of scale kicked in when they produced enough units to meet demand.
[quote name='Daddy']Then you qoute me about Playstation HUB and how Nintendo Gamecube came about....ummm did you forget about SEGA???? Apparently...b/c they had a little system that was CD based and failed pretty bad ...it was called SEGA CD...and that is why nintendo passed up....so dont try to make it like Sony came up with CD based gaming[/QUOTE]
He wasn't, dumbass. He was showing that Sony wasn't copying Nintendo when they did that, and when Nintendo didn't copy Sony, it cost them.
[quote name='Daddy']....psssss...this conversation has gone from stupid to ghey.....your a waste of time to talk to and thank god I never walked into the EB you were "running". I guess you scratched off a lottery ticket and won and bought a restaurant...bahbhba.[/QUOTE]
Again, are youing retarded?
[quote name='Daddy']Then you say:
"As for saying there were no games to buy a PS2 for God of War, Devil May Cry 3, Guitar Hero, SOTC, Resident Evil 4 S.E, and good lord I could keep on going. I sold a TON of PS2's this christmas and a vast majority of them included one of those games. Lets not forget GTA, which is like a cult wherever it goes the gamers follow."
Ok lets see:
God of War- good game,done well, not better than RE4
Devil may cry....PART 3...done and done again
Guitar Hero...I will admit fun game...just dont let anyone tape you playing it
SOTC- Great Idea, pretty good game, choppy in parts
RE4- its a PORT, and actually looks better on Gamecube!
These titles are how ever the best PS2 has to offer so if you have a PS2 of course these are your titles to stand by and defend if you own a PS2, and i understand that[/QUOTE]
Fact: Every single one of those games is amazing and deserves a spot as the greatest of this generation. You fail.
[quote name='Daddy']None of thes games are KILLER apps, they are fun but on an old outdated system that was #1 in gaming for quite sometime with a very large fanbase....again none of these would make me go buy a system right now just so i could play them. [/QUOTE]
God of War, SOTC, and Guitar Hero are EASILY killer apps.
[quote name='Daddy']As for Sony launching with another GTA...its just overdone....i hope they work something new into the game...not just a shiner version of a game already done...I hope the same about titles on any system...even Halo3. Next gen has great capabilities for GAMEPLAY not just graphics....hopefully they cater to both...but gameplay is what im looking for[/QUOTE]
SONY DOESN'T MAKE GTA.
[quote name='Daddy']PS- Like Daroga said "Wow... can we please just shut up and wait till we're into the next genereation and see what comes of it then?" so stop posting ghey comments and let it go[/QUOTE]
You say "ghey". Stop posting.
Maynard says:
"Nintendo is LUCKY that even happened, lets not forget how unhappy Capcom was with their success with GC. To this date RE4 has almost surpassed GC sales on PS2, gimme a break man."
Again a PORT from another system....if 100 mill people own a PS2 OF COURSe they will buy the game of the year (RE4 that ported to their system...idiot, im sure if HALO (not that it would ever happen) were available for PS2...its would sell through the roof as well. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, and? What's your point? Capcom had to port it in order to make a decent amount of money.
[quote name='Daddy']You ask me about my career or education? Again I dont believe a word you say, more so than anyone due to the fact you bring up "masters" or you avatar says "restaurant owner" or that it cost 3 mill. Its a forum...you could say you were a ladies man too while your at it.......you say you wanna see what I look like?.....again...the place is for gaming....not your ghey Match.com love profile....[/QUOTE]
Well aren't you
ing retarded.[quote name='Daddy']You post about my comment that the PSP is overpriced......yeah it is...a 4 gig duo pro and a PSP is $500 total....and it still has less memory then perhaps a ZEN or any other portable Media player....and yet people buy it b/c they "thought" they would get good games....but instead they got "ports" of PS2 games? Again i think you are in denial....I have a PSP, thank god i didnt pay for it....[/QUOTE]
So, let me get this straight: Your definition of "expensive" for the PSP includes an OPTIONAL and uneccesary add-on? Way to go.
[quote name='Daddy']You of all people (if you actually worked at United Audio) should know you were selling high end players...even then i said the higher end went to $700...the low end was $300ish. Then not enough people hopped on that DVD player technology and they dropped in price FAST. [/QUOTE]
He just said that they sold quite well and then they dropped. They dropped because the demand was high enough that economies of scale kicked in when they produced enough units to meet demand.
[quote name='Daddy']Then you qoute me about Playstation HUB and how Nintendo Gamecube came about....ummm did you forget about SEGA???? Apparently...b/c they had a little system that was CD based and failed pretty bad ...it was called SEGA CD...and that is why nintendo passed up....so dont try to make it like Sony came up with CD based gaming[/QUOTE]
He wasn't, dumbass. He was showing that Sony wasn't copying Nintendo when they did that, and when Nintendo didn't copy Sony, it cost them.
[quote name='Daddy']....psssss...this conversation has gone from stupid to ghey.....your a waste of time to talk to and thank god I never walked into the EB you were "running". I guess you scratched off a lottery ticket and won and bought a restaurant...bahbhba.[/QUOTE]
Again, are you
ing retarded?[quote name='Daddy']Then you say:
"As for saying there were no games to buy a PS2 for God of War, Devil May Cry 3, Guitar Hero, SOTC, Resident Evil 4 S.E, and good lord I could keep on going. I sold a TON of PS2's this christmas and a vast majority of them included one of those games. Lets not forget GTA, which is like a cult wherever it goes the gamers follow."
Ok lets see:
God of War- good game,done well, not better than RE4
Devil may cry....PART 3...done and done again
Guitar Hero...I will admit fun game...just dont let anyone tape you playing it
SOTC- Great Idea, pretty good game, choppy in parts
RE4- its a PORT, and actually looks better on Gamecube!
These titles are how ever the best PS2 has to offer so if you have a PS2 of course these are your titles to stand by and defend if you own a PS2, and i understand that[/QUOTE]
Fact: Every single one of those games is amazing and deserves a spot as the greatest of this generation. You fail.
[quote name='Daddy']None of thes games are KILLER apps, they are fun but on an old outdated system that was #1 in gaming for quite sometime with a very large fanbase....again none of these would make me go buy a system right now just so i could play them. [/QUOTE]
God of War, SOTC, and Guitar Hero are EASILY killer apps.
[quote name='Daddy']As for Sony launching with another GTA...its just overdone....i hope they work something new into the game...not just a shiner version of a game already done...I hope the same about titles on any system...even Halo3. Next gen has great capabilities for GAMEPLAY not just graphics....hopefully they cater to both...but gameplay is what im looking for[/QUOTE]
SONY DOESN'T MAKE GTA.
[quote name='Daddy']PS- Like Daroga said "Wow... can we please just shut up and wait till we're into the next genereation and see what comes of it then?" so stop posting ghey comments and let it go[/QUOTE]
You say "ghey". Stop posting.
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Wow. This got pretty personal.
I have to say thet while Daddy's "style" is strange, I do agree with the gist of his position.
Blu-Ray and PS3 are intertwined as tightly as peanut butter and jelly. Sony is counting on the PS3 to be the trojan horse that gets the installed base of BR up there fast. The problem is at what cost?
While the PS3 will be manufactured in higher numbers than the high-end BR player, the drive that actually reads the discs will roll off the same assembly line.
Combined with the cost of the cell processor, the price per unit could be staggering, and as Daddy pointed out, Sony is not in the same financial situation as MS to take a staggering loss on every console. Can Sony lose $400- 600 on every machine?
Also remember that we do end up paying for that loss in the MSRP of the games. MS is taking a larger loss on the 360 and lo and behold, the games are up $10 in price.
All things considered, I would say that Sony's future (the PS division anyway) totally hinges on E3. If they are a no-show there than PS3 is dead in the water. MS will have a huge lead, will drop the 360 prices and will have a ton of games available, some will be at a lower price point as well possibly by that time. Nintendo will also be out with a new innovative product that will change the face of gaming at a low price point.
Even if Sony does show up, they still have a mighty battle ahead of them.
Someone said that Nintendo hasn't done anything innovative this time around... How about interfacing with a handheld? A handheld that completely redefines interfacing with a console? To me Nintendo is the smartest of the three for sitting back and letting Sony and MS spend the farm trying to dominate the living room with the set top box while they sit back, release awesome games and find contentment (and riches) in their position.
I have to say thet while Daddy's "style" is strange, I do agree with the gist of his position.
Blu-Ray and PS3 are intertwined as tightly as peanut butter and jelly. Sony is counting on the PS3 to be the trojan horse that gets the installed base of BR up there fast. The problem is at what cost?
While the PS3 will be manufactured in higher numbers than the high-end BR player, the drive that actually reads the discs will roll off the same assembly line.
Combined with the cost of the cell processor, the price per unit could be staggering, and as Daddy pointed out, Sony is not in the same financial situation as MS to take a staggering loss on every console. Can Sony lose $400- 600 on every machine?
Also remember that we do end up paying for that loss in the MSRP of the games. MS is taking a larger loss on the 360 and lo and behold, the games are up $10 in price.
All things considered, I would say that Sony's future (the PS division anyway) totally hinges on E3. If they are a no-show there than PS3 is dead in the water. MS will have a huge lead, will drop the 360 prices and will have a ton of games available, some will be at a lower price point as well possibly by that time. Nintendo will also be out with a new innovative product that will change the face of gaming at a low price point.
Even if Sony does show up, they still have a mighty battle ahead of them.
Someone said that Nintendo hasn't done anything innovative this time around... How about interfacing with a handheld? A handheld that completely redefines interfacing with a console? To me Nintendo is the smartest of the three for sitting back and letting Sony and MS spend the farm trying to dominate the living room with the set top box while they sit back, release awesome games and find contentment (and riches) in their position.
[quote name='evanft']I love you daroga.[/QUOTE]
It's good to know that console flame wars can really bring people together.
[quote name='Qui-Gon Jim']Someone said that Nintendo hasn't done anything innovative this time around... How about interfacing with a handheld? A handheld that completely redefines interfacing with a console? To me Nintendo is the smartest of the three for sitting back and letting Sony and MS spend the farm trying to dominate the living room with the set top box while they sit back, release awesome games and find contentment (and riches) in their position.[/QUOTE]
Bingo. People hate Nintendo because they're blinded by their Sony/Microsoft alliances. But, that's cool. Nintendo's laughing all the way to the bank. The smartest gamers out there? The ones who get as wide a variety of gaming experiences as their contacts and budgets will allow. I might think Nintendo is producing the best games out of any company, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying Ninja Gaiden or the original Halo, or want to try my hand at a Katamari game.
It's good to know that console flame wars can really bring people together.
[quote name='Qui-Gon Jim']Someone said that Nintendo hasn't done anything innovative this time around... How about interfacing with a handheld? A handheld that completely redefines interfacing with a console? To me Nintendo is the smartest of the three for sitting back and letting Sony and MS spend the farm trying to dominate the living room with the set top box while they sit back, release awesome games and find contentment (and riches) in their position.[/QUOTE]
Bingo. People hate Nintendo because they're blinded by their Sony/Microsoft alliances. But, that's cool. Nintendo's laughing all the way to the bank. The smartest gamers out there? The ones who get as wide a variety of gaming experiences as their contacts and budgets will allow. I might think Nintendo is producing the best games out of any company, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying Ninja Gaiden or the original Halo, or want to try my hand at a Katamari game.
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[quote name='Qui-Gon Jim']Wow. This got pretty personal.
I have to say thet while Daddy's "style" is strange, I do agree with the gist of his position.
Blu-Ray and PS3 are intertwined as tightly as peanut butter and jelly. Sony is counting on the PS3 to be the trojan horse that gets the installed base of BR up there fast. The problem is at what cost?
While the PS3 will be manufactured in higher numbers than the high-end BR player, the drive that actually reads the discs will roll off the same assembly line.
Combined with the cost of the cell processor, the price per unit could be staggering, and as Daddy pointed out, Sony is not in the same financial situation as MS to take a staggering loss on every console. Can Sony lose $400- 600 on every machine?
Also remember that we do end up paying for that loss in the MSRP of the games. MS is taking a larger loss on the 360 and lo and behold, the games are up $10 in price.
All things considered, I would say that Sony's future (the PS division anyway) totally hinges on E3. If they are a no-show there than PS3 is dead in the water. MS will have a huge lead, will drop the 360 prices and will have a ton of games available, some will be at a lower price point as well possibly by that time. Nintendo will also be out with a new innovative product that will change the face of gaming at a low price point.
Even if Sony does show up, they still have a mighty battle ahead of them.
Someone said that Nintendo hasn't done anything innovative this time around... How about interfacing with a handheld? A handheld that completely redefines interfacing with a console? To me Nintendo is the smartest of the three for sitting back and letting Sony and MS spend the farm trying to dominate the living room with the set top box while they sit back, release awesome games and find contentment (and riches) in their position.[/QUOTE]
Thanks again....all the stuff I stated but in "english"... either way many people are in denial about Sony at this point...
Oh and evan:
Originally Posted by Daddy
Then you qoute me about Playstation HUB and how Nintendo Gamecube came about....ummm did you forget about SEGA???? Apparently...b/c they had a little system that was CD based and failed pretty bad ...it was called SEGA CD...and that is why nintendo passed up....so dont try to make it like Sony came up with CD based gaming
EVAN wrote:
He wasn't, dumbass. He was showing that Sony wasn't copying Nintendo when they did that, and when Nintendo didn't copy Sony, it cost them.
Now you are standing up for someone else? he was trying to say that Sony was innovative and he got burned....Nintendo put the idea down b/c they saw what happened with Sega CD and didnt want to take the risk
OR
Originally Posted by Daddy
You post about my comment that the PSP is overpriced......yeah it is...a 4 gig duo pro and a PSP is $500 total....and it still has less memory then perhaps a ZEN or any other portable Media player....and yet people buy it b/c they "thought" they would get good games....but instead they got "ports" of PS2 games? Again i think you are in denial....I have a PSP, thank god i didnt pay for it....
EVAN:
So, let me get this straight: Your definition of "expensive" for the PSP includes an OPTIONAL and uneccesary add-on?
Are you serious? The PSP has a 8-16mb stick included....what the hell are you gonna do with that? If it was good enough why are they gonna release a PSP w/ a hard drive then? To screw out the people who bought the original one...haha...right.
As far as you go Maynard your just some nerd posting up in forums and talking yourself up when this is about gaming not your gay sex life or your fake ass Sims game which your playing out over the internet. Go save your game, buy a clue, and stop telling men in a forum about your personal life when nobody cares. the bottom line is the PS3 will be delayed...its not comin out in "spring" and it will be more expensive the the other 2 consoles when it finally does launch
I have to say thet while Daddy's "style" is strange, I do agree with the gist of his position.
Blu-Ray and PS3 are intertwined as tightly as peanut butter and jelly. Sony is counting on the PS3 to be the trojan horse that gets the installed base of BR up there fast. The problem is at what cost?
While the PS3 will be manufactured in higher numbers than the high-end BR player, the drive that actually reads the discs will roll off the same assembly line.
Combined with the cost of the cell processor, the price per unit could be staggering, and as Daddy pointed out, Sony is not in the same financial situation as MS to take a staggering loss on every console. Can Sony lose $400- 600 on every machine?
Also remember that we do end up paying for that loss in the MSRP of the games. MS is taking a larger loss on the 360 and lo and behold, the games are up $10 in price.
All things considered, I would say that Sony's future (the PS division anyway) totally hinges on E3. If they are a no-show there than PS3 is dead in the water. MS will have a huge lead, will drop the 360 prices and will have a ton of games available, some will be at a lower price point as well possibly by that time. Nintendo will also be out with a new innovative product that will change the face of gaming at a low price point.
Even if Sony does show up, they still have a mighty battle ahead of them.
Someone said that Nintendo hasn't done anything innovative this time around... How about interfacing with a handheld? A handheld that completely redefines interfacing with a console? To me Nintendo is the smartest of the three for sitting back and letting Sony and MS spend the farm trying to dominate the living room with the set top box while they sit back, release awesome games and find contentment (and riches) in their position.[/QUOTE]
Thanks again....all the stuff I stated but in "english"... either way many people are in denial about Sony at this point...
Oh and evan:
Originally Posted by Daddy
Then you qoute me about Playstation HUB and how Nintendo Gamecube came about....ummm did you forget about SEGA???? Apparently...b/c they had a little system that was CD based and failed pretty bad ...it was called SEGA CD...and that is why nintendo passed up....so dont try to make it like Sony came up with CD based gaming
EVAN wrote:
He wasn't, dumbass. He was showing that Sony wasn't copying Nintendo when they did that, and when Nintendo didn't copy Sony, it cost them.
Now you are standing up for someone else? he was trying to say that Sony was innovative and he got burned....Nintendo put the idea down b/c they saw what happened with Sega CD and didnt want to take the risk
OR
Originally Posted by Daddy
You post about my comment that the PSP is overpriced......yeah it is...a 4 gig duo pro and a PSP is $500 total....and it still has less memory then perhaps a ZEN or any other portable Media player....and yet people buy it b/c they "thought" they would get good games....but instead they got "ports" of PS2 games? Again i think you are in denial....I have a PSP, thank god i didnt pay for it....
EVAN:
So, let me get this straight: Your definition of "expensive" for the PSP includes an OPTIONAL and uneccesary add-on?
Are you serious? The PSP has a 8-16mb stick included....what the hell are you gonna do with that? If it was good enough why are they gonna release a PSP w/ a hard drive then? To screw out the people who bought the original one...haha...right.
As far as you go Maynard your just some nerd posting up in forums and talking yourself up when this is about gaming not your gay sex life or your fake ass Sims game which your playing out over the internet. Go save your game, buy a clue, and stop telling men in a forum about your personal life when nobody cares. the bottom line is the PS3 will be delayed...its not comin out in "spring" and it will be more expensive the the other 2 consoles when it finally does launch
YES, I was hoping you would come back! I never said it wouldn't come out in spring because we all know it won't. PSP comes witha 32 MB stick, not a huge difference from 8 - 16 mb, but for someone who is a "gamer" you should know. Dont you own a psp? Dont change your position on the price either. Your saying its going to be SO much more expensive $600 plus range, and now you say it will be the most expensive of the 3. Well no freakin' shit sherlock thanks for another crime solved. As for my personal life, I dont see what relevance my restaurant has for this topic? That is an off topic and people have come to visit me and eat? Are you angry cause its successful? Well whatever, the members in this topic have seen your idiocy and responded. No they're not necessarily agreeing with what I am saying they're moreso just proving you wrong. No EvanFT is right that is what I meant you just can read correctly, i feel bad for you.
Question for you Daddy, why when you use a period do you hit it..............like that? Using extra periods doesn't make up for bad grammar.....................
ps. not making anything up about myself kid, I can prove it if i need to sweetie
Question for you Daddy, why when you use a period do you hit it..............like that? Using extra periods doesn't make up for bad grammar.....................
ps. not making anything up about myself kid, I can prove it if i need to sweetie
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Maynard, I gave up on page 2. It was clear back then he had no knowledge of the topic. Just let him go back to gamefaqs.
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[quote name='Maynard']Man o man, reading daddy's post is makes me feel good about my education. Daddy you officially are the man who flips burgers at McDonalds and your 34 and call it a career.
Daddy I have asked many times and you continue to dodge the question, where and when did you achieve your masters degree. The way you type sounds like you can't be older than 18 and you've achieved your Book IT! degree from Pizza Hut.
Listen, like Stuka said Sony is in trouble, fine and dandy. They still have plenty of cash in hand and you gotta spend money to make money guys, debt is always a good thing for companies. As for sony going down, or "crashing and burning" its not gonna happen.
I having a hard time reading your posts daddy, and in response to them i guess I could type ajdslk;fl;jwoiefnoriawe and you would probably still find something to talk about. As for me being a gamer I have been playing games since intellivision, which was my first system, and never stopped since than. I've bought almost every system, with exception to 3DO, on launch day. Lets not start pulling out our wangs and seeing who's is longer k? Blue - Ray is a whole different conversation, yeah its going to be expensive when it launches, but whomever said that the videophiles will buy it is exactly right. I remember working at United Audio (extrememly high end video/audio equipment) when the first DVD player came out. You now how much it retailed for? $799 and it was a Sony, we had over 100 units and sold them all within the week. DVD players dropped in price fast, but they weren't launching too cheap. I personally prefer Blue - Ray, but for different reasons I.E computer storage. I will personally put my brand new spanking 3 million dollar restaurant on the line saying that PS3 will not launch for more than $500. Why do we fight about launch price and date though? Sony is being really quiet about it and if anything its only angering the hardcore gamers and hyping it up for others. I remember when I was just running an EB last year and we had SO many calls as to when they could reserve a PS3 it wasn't even funny. Playstation is a household brand and not acknowledging that is asinine.
As for saying there were no games to buy a PS2 for God of War, Devil May Cry 3, Guitar Hero, SOTC, Resident Evil 4 S.E, and good lord I could keep on going. I sold a TON of PS2's this christmas and a vast majority of them included one of those games. Lets not forget GTA, which is like a cult wherever it goes the gamers follow.
Overpriced handhelds? Handheld PS2, portable media player, music player, and now homebrew player for roms yet PSP is overpriced? What is your career that you find this so overpriced? Plus we would be lucky to get a next gen version of GTA for launch. I would take a GT5 for launch too, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE HUGE popularity of those games? If anything your rooting Sony or should i say . If those games launched were talking massive crazy people dying to get the newest GTA, come on man at least thing before typing. I can't imagine talking to you in real life, do you have tourettes?
YOU RETARD GTA is HUGE and IS EXCLUSIVE WHEN IT RELEASES! Have you heard about Warhawk? Looked at it? What about Lair? Those are just two exclusives. I'm dying to see a picture of you! I want to see if you look like i imagine.
Perhaps you forget how the Playstation came about, Nintendo rejected their idea for a Cd based system. What did the big N do next, a cartridge system, look how far that got them. Seriously Daddy I'm starting to feel bad for you and your family. Nintendo is LUCKY that even happened, lets not forget how unhappy Capcom was with their success with GC. To this date RE4 has almost surpassed GC sales on PS2, gimme a break man.
well hopefully you continue responding daddy, its fun to read your posts and forward them to people in emails. Where did you get your masters and where do you work "career" remember?[/quote]
ps2 might not have alot of godly games but they sure do have a huge library of good games. it seems like sony gave you a good game about every month when the xbox had you playing halo 4 ever.
so far i only have two games for the 360: PDZ and Call of Duty 2.
other wise the only game that has caught my eye was Fight Night Round 3.
My point is do you guys think that when the PS3 comes out that right off the bat XBOX 360 will be shunned by a big library of games 4 the PS3????
Daddy I have asked many times and you continue to dodge the question, where and when did you achieve your masters degree. The way you type sounds like you can't be older than 18 and you've achieved your Book IT! degree from Pizza Hut.
Listen, like Stuka said Sony is in trouble, fine and dandy. They still have plenty of cash in hand and you gotta spend money to make money guys, debt is always a good thing for companies. As for sony going down, or "crashing and burning" its not gonna happen.
I having a hard time reading your posts daddy, and in response to them i guess I could type ajdslk;fl;jwoiefnoriawe and you would probably still find something to talk about. As for me being a gamer I have been playing games since intellivision, which was my first system, and never stopped since than. I've bought almost every system, with exception to 3DO, on launch day. Lets not start pulling out our wangs and seeing who's is longer k? Blue - Ray is a whole different conversation, yeah its going to be expensive when it launches, but whomever said that the videophiles will buy it is exactly right. I remember working at United Audio (extrememly high end video/audio equipment) when the first DVD player came out. You now how much it retailed for? $799 and it was a Sony, we had over 100 units and sold them all within the week. DVD players dropped in price fast, but they weren't launching too cheap. I personally prefer Blue - Ray, but for different reasons I.E computer storage. I will personally put my brand new spanking 3 million dollar restaurant on the line saying that PS3 will not launch for more than $500. Why do we fight about launch price and date though? Sony is being really quiet about it and if anything its only angering the hardcore gamers and hyping it up for others. I remember when I was just running an EB last year and we had SO many calls as to when they could reserve a PS3 it wasn't even funny. Playstation is a household brand and not acknowledging that is asinine.
As for saying there were no games to buy a PS2 for God of War, Devil May Cry 3, Guitar Hero, SOTC, Resident Evil 4 S.E, and good lord I could keep on going. I sold a TON of PS2's this christmas and a vast majority of them included one of those games. Lets not forget GTA, which is like a cult wherever it goes the gamers follow.
Overpriced handhelds? Handheld PS2, portable media player, music player, and now homebrew player for roms yet PSP is overpriced? What is your career that you find this so overpriced? Plus we would be lucky to get a next gen version of GTA for launch. I would take a GT5 for launch too, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE HUGE popularity of those games? If anything your rooting Sony or should i say . If those games launched were talking massive crazy people dying to get the newest GTA, come on man at least thing before typing. I can't imagine talking to you in real life, do you have tourettes?
YOU RETARD GTA is HUGE and IS EXCLUSIVE WHEN IT RELEASES! Have you heard about Warhawk? Looked at it? What about Lair? Those are just two exclusives. I'm dying to see a picture of you! I want to see if you look like i imagine.
Perhaps you forget how the Playstation came about, Nintendo rejected their idea for a Cd based system. What did the big N do next, a cartridge system, look how far that got them. Seriously Daddy I'm starting to feel bad for you and your family. Nintendo is LUCKY that even happened, lets not forget how unhappy Capcom was with their success with GC. To this date RE4 has almost surpassed GC sales on PS2, gimme a break man.
well hopefully you continue responding daddy, its fun to read your posts and forward them to people in emails. Where did you get your masters and where do you work "career" remember?[/quote]
ps2 might not have alot of godly games but they sure do have a huge library of good games. it seems like sony gave you a good game about every month when the xbox had you playing halo 4 ever.
so far i only have two games for the 360: PDZ and Call of Duty 2.
other wise the only game that has caught my eye was Fight Night Round 3.
My point is do you guys think that when the PS3 comes out that right off the bat XBOX 360 will be shunned by a big library of games 4 the PS3????
[quote name='sfriedlander']ps2 might not have alot of godly games but they sure do have a huge library of good games. it seems like sony gave you a good game about every month when the xbox had you playing halo 4 ever.
so far i only have two games for the 360: PDZ and Call of Duty 2.
other wise the only game that has caught my eye was Fight Night Round 3.
My point is do you guys think that when the PS3 comes out that right off the bat XBOX 360 will be shunned by a big library of games 4 the PS3????[/QUOTE]
If the PS3 library is bigger than the 360 library when it comes out (a year later), the 360 will officially have the worst launch ever.
so far i only have two games for the 360: PDZ and Call of Duty 2.
other wise the only game that has caught my eye was Fight Night Round 3.
My point is do you guys think that when the PS3 comes out that right off the bat XBOX 360 will be shunned by a big library of games 4 the PS3????[/QUOTE]
If the PS3 library is bigger than the 360 library when it comes out (a year later), the 360 will officially have the worst launch ever.
It's just not realistic that the PS3 library will be bigger than the 360 library when the PS3 launches. It may have more launch titles than 360 did and the PS3 library will probably overshadow the 360 library eventually when you factor in all the Japan exclusives the PS3 will get.
The problem I have with the PS3 right now is that there is so much fiction mixed with the fact about it right now, and I'm sure that's to Sony's liking. There are still people that swear that the Killzone 2 video from the last E3 is real in-game footage. There people are obviously retarded, but it feeds this whole idea that the PS3 is 'vastly' superior to the 360, which just isn't going to be true. Look at every single generation war thus far. There has never been a difference between two consoles of the same generation the size of that Killzone 2 video vs. real 360 games right now. SNES didn't blow the Sega Genesis out of the water graphically or vice versa. Even when the PS1 dominated the N64 and Sega Saturn it wasn't because there was such a huge graphical distinction. It was exclusive games plain and simple, and that will again be the determining factor between PS3 and 360 unless the PS3 is ultra expensive (I agree with Maynard, Sony isn't stupid so I don't think it will be uncompetitively expensive). 360 right now is positioned to gain ground and even have a chance 'win' every region except Asia right now. MS may be boned in Japan unless they do to Sony what Sony did to Nintendo back in the PS1/N64 days or Sony somehow lets themselves be pushed out of the market (both of which don't seem likely anytime soon).
The problem I have with the PS3 right now is that there is so much fiction mixed with the fact about it right now, and I'm sure that's to Sony's liking. There are still people that swear that the Killzone 2 video from the last E3 is real in-game footage. There people are obviously retarded, but it feeds this whole idea that the PS3 is 'vastly' superior to the 360, which just isn't going to be true. Look at every single generation war thus far. There has never been a difference between two consoles of the same generation the size of that Killzone 2 video vs. real 360 games right now. SNES didn't blow the Sega Genesis out of the water graphically or vice versa. Even when the PS1 dominated the N64 and Sega Saturn it wasn't because there was such a huge graphical distinction. It was exclusive games plain and simple, and that will again be the determining factor between PS3 and 360 unless the PS3 is ultra expensive (I agree with Maynard, Sony isn't stupid so I don't think it will be uncompetitively expensive). 360 right now is positioned to gain ground and even have a chance 'win' every region except Asia right now. MS may be boned in Japan unless they do to Sony what Sony did to Nintendo back in the PS1/N64 days or Sony somehow lets themselves be pushed out of the market (both of which don't seem likely anytime soon).
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[quote name='elwood731']Yes, but despite Bill's claims, MS can't simply continue to lose money generation after generation. If they lose another $4 billion+ with the 360, then what? The 720? How long do they keep it up? It isn't like, to my knowledge, MS has been able to turn the XBOX brand into sales in other parts of their company like Apple has been able to with the iPod (Mac sales up). Unless MS turns a profit (which seems less and less likely with Sony fighting fiercely for their lives), or they're able to turn Live! into a viable content distribution system for games, music, and movies--then, well, I don't really see them sticking around too much longer past the 360. This is not to say the 360 will be a failure for games (the XBOX wasn't either), but it might be a financial and business failure.[/QUOTE]
Actually they only have to lose money until Sony gaming is out of business once the competition is gone they can raise the price of games and release a more expensive profitable console.
Actually they only have to lose money until Sony gaming is out of business once the competition is gone they can raise the price of games and release a more expensive profitable console.
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[quote name='Indiana']Actually they only have to lose money until Sony gaming is out of business once the competition is gone they can raise the price of games and release a more expensive profitable console.[/quote]
Surely MS could figure out how to make a buck BEFORE putting Sony out of business yea? If them making money is dependent on Sony going out of business, then they might be in more trouble than I like to joke about.
Surely MS could figure out how to make a buck BEFORE putting Sony out of business yea? If them making money is dependent on Sony going out of business, then they might be in more trouble than I like to joke about.
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[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Surely MS could figure out how to make a buck BEFORE putting Sony out of business yea? If them making money is dependent on Sony going out of business, then they might be in more trouble than I like to joke about.[/QUOTE]
Well one would hope they would make money before Sony exits the game business, however I know that MS has stated they will have to lose money in order to get into the game business. It appears that MS is willing to lose money in order to gain a dominant position. If MS wants to win the console war this is the generation to do it. They got the console out first, now all they have to do is get 10 million of them shipped, release great games, and drop the price of the console.
It appears to me that the MS is having the most trouble getting the systems shipped, although the rumor is that the problem will be solved by the end of spring.
Well one would hope they would make money before Sony exits the game business, however I know that MS has stated they will have to lose money in order to get into the game business. It appears that MS is willing to lose money in order to gain a dominant position. If MS wants to win the console war this is the generation to do it. They got the console out first, now all they have to do is get 10 million of them shipped, release great games, and drop the price of the console.
It appears to me that the MS is having the most trouble getting the systems shipped, although the rumor is that the problem will be solved by the end of spring.
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[quote name='botticus']If the PS3 library is bigger than the 360 library when it comes out (a year later), the 360 will officially have the worst launch ever.[/QUOTE]
It already beats it with PS2/PS1 BC that will give it a huge library from the start.
It already beats it with PS2/PS1 BC that will give it a huge library from the start.
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[quote name='daroga']I think a lot of people did just that with the PS2... and to watch DVD movies until some decent software started coming out.[/QUOTE]
There were good games out at launch.
There were good games out at launch.
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[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It already beats it with PS2/PS1 BC that will give it a huge library from the start.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't count. If I wanted to play ps2 games, I'm sure you would already have a PS2. Why pay $499 to play ps2 games. Now Blu Ray movies might be cool to watch but if they are $30-$40 a movie as I have been hearing I guess I will stick to my plain old DVDs.
That doesn't count. If I wanted to play ps2 games, I'm sure you would already have a PS2. Why pay $499 to play ps2 games. Now Blu Ray movies might be cool to watch but if they are $30-$40 a movie as I have been hearing I guess I will stick to my plain old DVDs.
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[quote name='botticus']If the PS3 library is bigger than the 360 library when it comes out (a year later), the 360 will officially have the worst launch ever.[/quote]
ya MS has to get alot of deals signed to match all the PS3 games from the japan boost.
even if all the games for the 360 wouldn't be good it would tell more people that they can make more games with the 360 for cheaper instead of making an investment with dat blu ray. also by the time the PS3 comes out 360 games are going to have better graphics due to the full product coming out. Imagine the games that are starting to be made now are probly going to be impresive.
i hope...
ya MS has to get alot of deals signed to match all the PS3 games from the japan boost.
even if all the games for the 360 wouldn't be good it would tell more people that they can make more games with the 360 for cheaper instead of making an investment with dat blu ray. also by the time the PS3 comes out 360 games are going to have better graphics due to the full product coming out. Imagine the games that are starting to be made now are probly going to be impresive.
i hope...
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[quote name='Indiana']That doesn't count. If I wanted to play ps2 games, I'm sure you would already have a PS2. Why pay $499 to play ps2 games. Now Blu Ray movies might be cool to watch but if they are $30-$40 a movie as I have been hearing I guess I will stick to my plain old DVDs.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure no one buys it solely to play PS2 games, as that wasn't my point, but it's a plus to have the ability of two machines or more machines in one. Why doesn't it count as part of the library? Every other time that a machine that plays previous systems' games, it's been a feature that the library is instantly huge with the addition of the ability to play those older games. Nobody's forcing you to watch, and buy, Blu-Ray movies on your PlayStation 3, as it plays media all the way back to CD's and we'll probably even see PS3 games on DVD.
I'm sure no one buys it solely to play PS2 games, as that wasn't my point, but it's a plus to have the ability of two machines or more machines in one. Why doesn't it count as part of the library? Every other time that a machine that plays previous systems' games, it's been a feature that the library is instantly huge with the addition of the ability to play those older games. Nobody's forcing you to watch, and buy, Blu-Ray movies on your PlayStation 3, as it plays media all the way back to CD's and we'll probably even see PS3 games on DVD.
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