Is the 360 for me?

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I never really considered getting a 360 (except for black Friday at Amazon :p), but since I've been listening to the CAGcast and hearing Cheapy and Wombat talk about the Marketplace, Oblivion, downloadable content, etc etc etc, I'm reconsidering...

So... I love puzzle games, RPGs, platformers, fighting games, strategy.... basically anything but sports titles, and I'm not big on FPS (I have no desire to play Halo!). I like games that are unique and quirky, or retro in feel.

That being said, do you all think it's worth it for me to get a 360? Are there enough games like the above to warrant the purchase?

Also, I know a price drop is anticipated, but what do you all think it will be dropping to?
 
right now for next gen the 360 has the most assortment of games....

if you like unique/quirky games you need to pick up a dreamcast......

you have to have a Xbox Live silver account to download content...it is a free to have though

can you link me to some info on the anticipated price drop? I havent heard of one and with titles like mass effect, Halo 3, assassin's creed, GTA IV, and Bioshock coming out later this year i pretty much gaurantee there wont be a pricedrop until at least next year
 
[quote name='Malik112099']
can you link me to some info on the anticipated price drop? I havent heard of one and with titles like mass effect, Halo 3, assassin's creed, GTA IV, and Bioshock coming out later this year i pretty much gaurantee there wont be a pricedrop until at least next year[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the info! :)

re: the price drop, I havent really read anything about it, I've just heard people lke Cheapy speculating about it in Podcasts, thinking it will come this year. You make a good point about the lineup, though!
 
I would purchase one, but Im a huge XBL, Halo GOW, FPS kind of person. If your not into online play, and action games are not your thing, there isn't anything stopping you, but I don't know how much the 360 has to offers in the other genres. If its any help, I hate my Wii right now, but love my 360.
 
Best system I have ever had. About every week I have a new favorite 360 game. Between Oblivion, C:SotN, Prey, Forza 2, Saints Row, Worms, Heavy Weapon, Gears of War, MLB 2K7, Dead or Alive 4 and others, there is so many good games.

Plus the gamer score and XBox Live is the best thing ever in gaming if you ask me.
 
[quote name='PleasantOne']I never really considered getting a 360 (except for black Friday at Amazon :p), but since I've been listening to the CAGcast and hearing Cheapy and Wombat talk about the Marketplace, Oblivion, downloadable content, etc etc etc, I'm reconsidering...

So... I love puzzle games, RPGs, platformers, fighting games, strategy.... basically anything but sports titles, and I'm not big on FPS (I have no desire to play Halo!). I like games that are unique and quirky, or retro in feel.

That being said, do you all think it's worth it for me to get a 360? Are there enough games like the above to warrant the purchase?

Also, I know a price drop is anticipated, but what do you all think it will be dropping to?[/quote]

I'm kinda in the same boat as you. I'm not too big on FPS.

I'm waiting for the new chips to go into the 360 though.

There's not really anything on 360 right now that would justify spending 400 dollars. Especially if there's a chance the 360 will break within a year. For now I just go to other people's house to play the 360. GRAW2 and Most Wanted are the only games that have impressed me with "wow" moments.

Here's what I'm looking forward to:
Blue Dragon
Street Fighter II HD / Puzzle Fighter HD
Lost Odyssey
Trusty Bell / Eternal Sonata
The next DOA / Tecmo game
Next-gen Prince of Persia
Resident Evil 5
Naruto
Conan
NFS: Pro Street
Assasins Creed

As you can see, these games won't be out for a while
 
while some of the pricing is retarded, xbl arcade is awesome. its a great fix for different types of games, which i greatly enjoy.
like the above poster, it is my favorite console ever, and ive had almost all of them.
 
I honestly can't think of anyone who even remotely enjoys gaming that wouldn't love the 360.

Great games like Oblivion, Dead Rising, Viva Piñata, great shooters like Gears of War, Rainbow Six Vegas. Upcoming games like Alan Wake, Assasin's Creed, Mass Effect, Fable 2.

I love it.
 
The 360 is heavy on the shooters. Thus far, the only retail game that I've gotten that I'm for sure keeping in my collection is Guitar Hero II (Crackdown might join it). However, some of the unique XBLA content almost makes the system worth it on their own (Geometry Wars & Pac-Man C.E., my two favorite games on the system, will be right up your alley and only cost you $15 for both!). There are a lot of good buy-them-play-them-sell-them games out like Tomb Raider: Legend, Burnout Revenge, & Need for Speed: Most Wanted.

If you can get one for under retail, I'd say go for it. I wouldn't spend a full $400, but I'm glad I got one for the steal-of-a-deal that I did. It's a solid machine with a lot of potential, and a nice compliment to the Wii.
 
E3 is just 15 days away. From the looks of your other posts, you're a Nintendo guy. Perhaps the floodgates for [serious] third party support will open for the Wii and you won't need to bother with a 360. I guess the same could be said for the 360 and RPGs?

I predict Microsoft will announce a 50 dollar pricedrop ($249/$349)on both SKUs for Aug-Sept in time for Halo and then another $50 drop a year down the line.
 
why would they have a pricedrop right before the systems most probable biggest seller to date will come out? Halo 3 is pretty much a system seller...all the hardcore Halo 2 guys who havent switched to the 360 yet wont hesitate to pick up a 360 and Halo 3 at full price....it would be a dumb business decision to price drop before xmas
 
[quote name='Malik112099']why would they have a pricedrop right before the systems most probable biggest seller to date will come out? Halo 3 is pretty much a system seller...all the hardcore Halo 2 guys who havent switched to the 360 yet wont hesitate to pick up a 360 and Halo 3 at full price....it would be a dumb business decision to price drop before xmas[/quote]

Maybe, just maybe, because people are waiting for that $50 price break and it would more than likely move more units if dropped right before the biggest game for the system. Should Nintendo have kept the DS pricing the same before Pokemon came out? Cheaper prices and great games move units. Might not be as much initial profit, but it might be enough and they would in turn get a bigger install base.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I'm not a big FPS fan but I LOVE my 360. Best system this generation so far (by miles), IMO.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. Going in, I figured the 360 might be my second console behind the Wii this gen... I've been totally surprised to find that my Wii only gets used for lazy web surfing while my 360 has come to rule the day.

FPS games never did it for me, but there's so much else to enjoy on the console. I'd even venture to say that it's completely worth the full $400 entrance fee. Just be sure to buy the extended warranty from MS...
 
I appreciate all of the opinions... I think I'm going to plan for it later this year. maybe if I'm lucky my hubby will take a hint and get it for me for my birthday... Ok, probably not :whistle2:|

I especially like what Daroga had to say about XBL arcade. You really hit the nail on the head as far as how I've been feeling like I would feel about it if I had one ;D Maybe it's because I'm so unhappy with virtual console, but it just sounds *awesome* to me. Then I think... $400 for arcade games? Am I an idiot? It sounds like there are at least some top notch titles along the lines of my interests, though, so maybe it really is worth it.

If Mrs. Shipwreck is out there somewhere, I'd love to hear her opinion on this, too. From CAG Foreplay, it sounds like she has similar game tastes... I'd love to know how often she plays the 360!

Anyhow, thanks to everyone for the input! :)
 
Ah fuck, I just made this long ass post, and realized I wasn't logged in after I pressed to reply, so it is gone. Well I'll just summarize is again:
I would definently say that there are plenty of games that apply to the genres you like; such as:
Puzzle- Tomb Raider Legend, Bejeweled 2 Deluxe(XBLA), and Puzzle Quest(coming soon to XBLA).
RPGs- Right now Oblivion, coming in the next months; Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, and Fable 2.
Platformers- not many; but I liked Kameo, and Banjo Kazooie 3 is coming sometime in the future.
Fighting- Right now: Dead or Alive 4, Smackdown vs Raw 2007, Rumble Roses, some Street Fighter(XBLA), Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3(XBLA). Virtua Fighter 5, Soul Caliber IV, and another Street Fighter in HD(XBLA) are coming to the 360 in the future.
Strategy- Command and Conquer 3, Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth 2.
Quirky/Unique/Retro- Viva Pinata is a very addictive and fun game, that is defininetly "quirky". Then there are games on XBLA like Uno and Outpost Kaloki X. As for retro games, plenty, like Contra, Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, TMNT 1989 Arcade, Joust, and a LOT more on XBL Arcade.
So, yes, I would say there are enough games here and are coming to warrant the purchase of a 360. As for the pricedrop, I doubt it will be anytime soon, but there are some weekly deals on the console itself. Also, the Elite could be an alternative if you want to buy TV shows or "rent" movies from XBL Marketplace.
 
[quote name='daroga']The 360 is heavy on the shooters. Thus far, the only retail game that I've gotten that I'm for sure keeping in my collection is Guitar Hero II (Crackdown might join it). However, some of the unique XBLA content almost makes the system worth it on their own (Geometry Wars & Pac-Man C.E., my two favorite games on the system, will be right up your alley and only cost you $15 for both!). There are a lot of good buy-them-play-them-sell-them games out like Tomb Raider: Legend, Burnout Revenge, & Need for Speed: Most Wanted.

If you can get one for under retail, I'd say go for it. I wouldn't spend a full $400, but I'm glad I got one for the steal-of-a-deal that I did. It's a solid machine with a lot of potential, and a nice compliment to the Wii.[/QUOTE]

I just want to second what Daroga wrote. Him, you (PleasantOne) and me have similar tastes I think (in particular wrt to sports games and FPS's). I got a 360 because it is showing promise for some RPG's. I don't ever expect it to become like the PS2 (hopefully the Wii will take over in that respect, especially with how well it is selling in Japan). But if there are a few big RPG titles for the 360 I'll be happy. I'm probably getting Blue Dragon upon release, and maybe Eternal Sonata and Two Worlds. I haven't picked up Oblivion yet because I'm waiting for some sort of Game of the Year edition and I have plenty to play in the mean time (I've gotten into Chromehounds quite a bit recently and that is my one big online game). I've got plenty of others cheap via CAG like TR:Legend, Burnout Revenge, BfME II, etc... I put a lot of time into Viva Pinata too - that is a MUST BUY as far as I'm concerned. It is BY FAR my choice for best 360 game, though I could see how it wouldn't be for everyone (though I'm guessing you may like it).

I enjoy XBLA to an extent, but I don't think it is as hot as everyone else does. I've only bought one game (besides those on the Arcade Unplugged disc): Worms. But if you like Puzzle games I think Hexic (which came with the system) is fantastic.

One thing you have to get used to is the amazing amount of noise the system makes, though - in particular the disc drive when playing 360 games. I enjoy XBLA for one reason for sure - the machine is quiet when playing those ;). I mean, I heard all the complaints from people but I never really understood what they meant until I got mine home - and mine is an Elite. I've sort of learned to tune it out now, but it is always there as a nagging reminder. Obviously the number one thing MS needs to deal with is the high failure rate. But after that they need to get this thing to be quieter (and note that new chips won't help with that as it is the disc drive and not the cooling fans making most of the noise).

I'm splitting my time between the 360, Wii, PS2, and Gamecube. My DS is the one left out right now and my PSP gets it's usual power-up once every 3 months or so :lol:. For sure I've spent more time on the 360 than the other systems though - but that's because I just got it beginning of May and I had the entire library of games to start going through. I don't imagine if I'd had one for a year I'd be playing it nearly as much.

Anyways, I would say go for it, but look for some sort of deal to be sure. This is CAG after all ;). My "deal" was using trade-in credit at Gamecrazy (and this was *before* the amazing trade-in promo they have going on now - if this was in effect when I was building up for my 360, I probably could have gotten 4 full-priced new games along with it)
 
[quote name='io'] I don't imagine if I'd had one for a year I'd be playing it nearly as much.[/quote]


ive had mine since Jan 1st 2006 and I play it pretty much every day
 
I'm going to say wait, it may be for you, but it's not quite for you yet. Given your likes and dislikes that is. And really until some of these games that people have talked about falling into your likes hit the market there's no point in buying one (unless you get a killer deal someplace). I also say wait because some of the games mentioned may not pan out as good as they are looking right now (Two Worlds for example, I love the concept, but I have my doubts it will be as smooth/polished as I'd like). Finally, don't buy it for marketplace, it's not as cool as various folk would have you believe, I think if you buy it simply for that right now and nothing else you'll find yourself regretting it. As for pricedrop, I doubt you'll see one til after the holidays (November at the earliest depnding on what sony does).
 
Buying a 360 was the only thing that managed to break me away from my 2 year addiction to WoW.

Also, despite what io says, I almost never notice the disc drive noise from my 360 while im playing unless someone points it out (but thats just me).
 
It really depends. I own a 360 and a Wii. Here is my advice.

1) Think about the future. Sure, the PS3 and Wii don't have amazing selections now, but what about a year from now. Will they evolve to your liking in a year, like the 360 did?


2) The wii has a lot of quirky things. I mean, just play some Warioware, and you will understand. If you like classic gaming, spring for the wii, It has the virtual console and all. Also, the wii seems to be getting more of the creative-esque games in the future.

3) The 360 has a lot to offer too. That xbox live arcade is great. Buncha titles, all decently priced (all games are 10 dollars max, right), and has a nice variety of games. I think that is only true because it had a 1 year jump over the PS3 and Wii. However, its current titles are various, including fighting, action, shooting, rpgs, niche games (guitar hero 2), and more.

4) The PS3 at this time doesn't have a lot to offer. If you want a good Blu-Ray player, spring for the PS3. It is a blu-ray player and a gaming console, and you could be saving yourself the purchase of either or.

Okay, so, sleep on it, and don't make any rash decisions!
 
[quote name='SpecTrE3353']
Also, despite what io says, I almost never notice the disc drive noise from my 360 while im playing unless someone points it out (but thats just me).[/QUOTE]

I don't get it - when you put a disc in yours doesn't it spin up like an airplane engine? I mean, seriously, it goes from being fairly quiet with some minor fan noise to sounding like a beast. I'm not talking about disc-access noise. I can barely hear that over the rumbling and spinning of the drive itself which is CONSTANT - you can't avoid hearing it. Maybe mine is just bad, I dunno, but I've definitely seen other people say the same thing. One of these days I may try to make a video to demonstrate it. I've never even seen another 360 in action apart from demo units and I assume most of those are not running off of discs (plus they are usually enclosed so it is hard to tell how noisy they are).
 
Thanks everyone! :D

Io, I envy your flipping ability! I just have this horrible feeling that if I tried to flip clearance games something would go horribly wrong. I can see myself drowning in copies of some crappy game I can only trade in for a dollar =)) I don't know how else I'd get a "deal", though... as a free controller or $50 gift card doesn't seem deal enough to me... Or if I found someone selling one, but then I'd be worried it was one that was on the fritz or something, with all the problems. I heard a guy come into GS the other day talking to the employees about the Elite... he told them his 360 was about to die so he thought he might need a new 360... and they were ENCOURAGING him to trade it into them :whistle2:|

Is the noise from the fan? My desktop computer is like that... I don't know what it is about the fan, but as soon as you turn it on... WHIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

Also, just fyi for anyone, I do have a Wii... I enjoy it, and I see great things for it in the future, but I think regardless of how it does, it's going to be in a different league from 360. I think we'll see one group of games for the Wii, and another group for PS3/360... I don't know that many will cross over to the Wii, and if they do, the experience will be different. So it sort of comes down to, do I want to be able to play those games at all, or not? And if so, then I'll go with the 360, because Sony's attitude lately has completely put me off PS3 :p I'm sure I'll eat those words in a few years... oh well ;)
 
I was a PS1/PS2 w/ GT series only kind of gamer before this next gen came around. I hated the xbox, but then I got sucked into getting a 360 for GoW. Since then I've gotten sucked into buy 20+ games... Not only that but I have loved most of them. Currently, FM2 is the only game I play and it's managed to kill off all my bad habits and hobbies.

Yeah, I'd say it's worth it.
 
The only bad thing I can say about the 360 is the disc drive noise. Everything else about the system, games, and online service are going to be positive. I love love love my 360. That being said, I hope to God that Japan will stop acting like it's the Bird Flu and buy into it.
 
[quote name='PleasantOne']
Also, just fyi for anyone, I do have a Wii... I enjoy it, and I see great things for it in the future, but I think regardless of how it does, it's going to be in a different league from 360. I think we'll see one group of games for the Wii, and another group for PS3/360... I don't know that many will cross over to the Wii, and if they do, the experience will be different. So it sort of comes down to, do I want to be able to play those games at all, or not? And if so, then I'll go with the 360, because Sony's attitude lately has completely put me off PS3 :p I'm sure I'll eat those words in a few years... oh well ;)[/QUOTE]

I was in the same situation and chose the 360 over the PS3, for now, anyway. I'll pick up a PS3 eventually, but probably not for at least a year. Here's an important thing to consider: as with the 360, I want there to be plenty of cheap games out to buy for it before I invest in the console. I'm mildly interested in some of the PS3 releases this year, but not nearly enough to buy them at full price. After all, it is the software cost that ends up making the console cost seem like nothing - UNLESS you buy them the CAG way ;). So I need to wait another year from this Fall at the earliest. Then stuff like Lair, the Ratchet & Clank game, etc will be $30 MSRP.

So, really, while a $50 or $100 price drop on the PS3 (or 360) would be great, you are going to save much more by having a solid library of cheap games available. The only new console currently with that situation is the 360. And it is good you have a Wii, because I think many of the niche RPG's (I'm hoping the strategy ones in particular) might end up being made on that. So you'll be covered for the big-budget hi-def stuff and the quirky niche stuff (as well as Nintendo's stellar first-party stuff of course). So, anyway, I say go for it (get a 360) - but keep hunting around for a deal. I have no idea if there will be any good deal/price break this Fall though.
 
[quote name='io']I was in the same situation and chose the 360 over the PS3, for now, anyway. I'll pick up a PS3 eventually, but probably not for at least a year. Here's an important thing to consider: as with the 360, I want there to be plenty of cheap games out to buy for it before I invest in the console. I'm mildly interested in some of the PS3 releases this year, but not nearly enough to buy them at full price. After all, it is the software cost that ends up making the console cost seem like nothing - UNLESS you buy them the CAG way ;). So I need to wait another year from this Fall at the earliest. Then stuff like Lair, the Ratchet & Clank game, etc will be $30 MSRP.

So, really, while a $50 or $100 price drop on the PS3 (or 360) would be great, you are going to save much more by having a solid library of cheap games available. The only new console currently with that situation is the 360. And it is good you have a Wii, because I think many of the niche RPG's (I'm hoping the strategy ones in particular) might end up being made on that. So you'll be covered for the big-budget hi-def stuff and the quirky niche stuff (as well as Nintendo's stellar first-party stuff of course). So, anyway, I say go for it (get a 360) - but keep hunting around for a deal. I have no idea if there will be any good deal/price break this Fall though.[/quote]

He is a man of great wisdom.
 
[quote name='io']So, really, while a $50 or $100 price drop on the PS3 (or 360) would be great, you are going to save much more by having a solid library of cheap games available. The only new console currently with that situation is the 360. [/QUOTE]

Excellent point! I have a hard enough time shelling out $50 at release... I think $60 might be more than I could handle :lol:

I hope I can hold out for fall, though... I'm getting sot of fixated on the idea of getting one now!
 
I could talk about it for a long time... I'll just write down games that I like for now (It is pretty late and i'm tired):

The games are in no particular order.

Condemned

Dead rising

Guitar hero 2

Gun (Yeah yeah last gen title)

THAW

Worms

Root beer tapper

Oblivion (Ace!!)

Games that I haven't played yet That I'll play soon:

The Darkness

Shadowrun

Games that aren't out yet that I am looking forward to:

Assassin's creed

Condemned 2

Dead rising 2

GTA 4

Guitar Hero 3

Rock Band
 
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