It's been over 20 DAYS since I shipped my end of the deal!!!!!

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I shipped my copy of Yoshi's T & G on May 25th with d/c and he received it that Saturday. Time passes and I wait with no response. Then i write a PM to him 2 weeks after and he says whoops sent it to the wrong person......So i continue to wait and then i write another PM to see if he has shipped my game (MR. Driller ds) YET. No reply from him and i see that he has been on lately. What do i do?
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']I shipped my copy of Yoshi's T & G on May 25th with d/c and he received it that Saturday. Time passes and I wait with no response. Then i write a PM to him 2 weeks after and he says whoops sent it to the wrong person......So i continue to wait and then i write another PM to see if he has shipped my game (MR. Driller ds) YET. No reply from him and i see that he has been on lately. What do i do?[/QUOTE]

PM a mod... shrike4242 or a different one of your choice.
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']Thanks, I plan to but what can they do?[/QUOTE]

they cant necessarily get your stuff for you but they can be a moderator to help resolve the situation the best they can. Worst case scenerio if the situation doesnt get resolved they will probably ip ban him so he cant go on cag anymore. Something is better than nothing, but unfortuntely trading on cag is at your own risk.
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']Thanks, I plan to but what can they do?[/QUOTE]

Frankly, not a whole lot. Mods can give you advice on how to further handle the situation, and ways to ensure that you can avoid situations like this in the future.

But, caveat emptor.
 
[quote name='Veggie']Cant he file mail fraud or somethign like that, since he had a d/c?[/QUOTE]

If it was done using USPS, yes. He'll need documentation of the agreement though (PMs or emails detailing the trade).
 
Well the worst part is that he has more feedback than me, and when he got my game he left a feedback for me. Even if he shipped it to the wrong person and then shipped it to me it should still have gotten to me by now. It mostly pisses me off because im so powerless. I really appreciate the advice and the chance to vent. Thanks again
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']Well the worst part is that he has more feedback than me, and when he got my game he left a feedback for me. Even if he shipped it to the wrong person and then shipped it to me it should still have gotten to me by now. It mostly pisses me off because im so powerless. I really appreciate the advice and the chance to vent. Thanks again[/QUOTE]

it sucks bro, but there is still hope.
 
[quote name='doraemonkerpal']i'm thinking that he's trying to get his game back from whoever he incorrectly sent it to. :lol: best of luck to ya![/QUOTE]

Exactly. If it's a person with high feedback, it means they probably are trying to resolve the issue. It's a lame situation that could have been easily avoided, but I don't think you are really in the "I got ripped off" zone yet.
 
A semi-solution is easy enough. If he hasn't recovered the game he was supposed to send to you yet and you are tired of waiting, he needs to just send your game back to you or compensate you for some agreed upon amount. Not an ideal outcome, but better than being out a game. If I were in his shoes I'd probably ask you to wait another few weeks or so if possible as mail can get lost and with this whole situation of mailing to the wrong person I imagine it could really be delayed.

The fact that he's ignoring your PMs is pretty bad. Even if there is no change from his end he should give you the courtesy of a reply.

Just my take.

BTW, it's pretty easy to figure out which CAGer we're talking about here...
 
It's also good that you have yet to post their screen name. Sometimes shit happens, but lets not jump to conclusions and start callings names.

EDIT: OUCH, turns out it's very easy to see how it is, perhaps you should be a tad bit more discreet :)
 
Drop him a negative feedback for the moment, and indicate what the problem is. If the matter gets resolved, the negative can be removed.
 
If he no longer has the game (and if he's at fault for mailing to wrong person) than you should ask him if he's willing to either return the game to you or to buy the game from you.

I have exactly the same problem a few months ago on another trading forum. I mailed the game to him with DC. But this person said he mailed to wrong address. Then when I asked him what address did he mail it, he changed the story and said his mom was sick. Then later he said his cousin has the game and went on vacation so he couldn't get the game back.

There is not much I was able to do other than to give negative feedback so other people can be more alert to this trader.
 
[quote name='mookiemeister']If he no longer has the game (and if he's at fault for mailing to wrong person) than you should ask him if he's willing to either return the game to you or to buy the game from you.

I have exactly the same problem a few months ago on another trading forum. I mailed the game to him with DC. But this person said he mailed to wrong address. Then when I asked him what address did he mail it, he changed the story and said his mom was sick. Then later he said his cousin has the game and went on vacation so he couldn't get the game back.

There is not much I was able to do other than to give negative feedback so other people can be more alert to this trader.[/QUOTE]

If the game is coming back to him media mail, it could take 10 days to show up, which is about the timeframe we're talking about.

Negative feedback is about all that can be done on here, though if you want to look into filing mail fraud charges against him through the USPS, that might scare them into producing the game.
 
I left him a Neg. feedback but i hope it doesnt stop him from actually sending the game. I normally would have more patience but he refuses to respond to my pm's
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']Well the worst part is that he has more feedback than me, and when he got my game he left a feedback for me. Even if he shipped it to the wrong person and then shipped it to me it should still have gotten to me by now. It mostly pisses me off because im so powerless. I really appreciate the advice and the chance to vent. Thanks again[/QUOTE]

Dig up the information about what happened, take a trip over to the post office and find out how you can file mail fraud charges against them. PM them and let them know that you're doing so, and it might magically show up.
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']I left him a Neg. feedback but i hope it doesnt stop him from actually sending the game. I normally would have more patience but he refuses to respond to my pm's[/QUOTE]

It shouldn't. A negative could always be turned into a neutral (doubt you would want to leave good feedback for him but I am sure you can do that too)
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']I left him a Neg. feedback but i hope it doesnt stop him from actually sending the game. I normally would have more patience but he refuses to respond to my pm's[/QUOTE]

And you've moved him onto the Wall Of Shame, where he needs to be.

If he sends out a game, the negative feedback can be removed. Until then, if it ever gets sent out, it'll remain. Only mods & Cheapy can remove it.

Keep up with sending him PM's until he responds.
 
I think we should all give him the benefit of the doubt until he has a chance to give his side of what's going on. He may very well come on here and apologize for not responding to the PMs plus agree to either send the OP's game back immediately or if he wants to wait X more days/weeks for him to get the original game he wanted to begin with at his option. That would be full redemption in my book. (Assuming he actually follows through.)

Trading involves a lot of trust (especially on the side of he who sends first, obviously) and dropping the ball with communication, especially when your trading partner sees that you've been logged into the site, goes a loooong way toward eroding that trust. So I also certainly can't fault the OP for being pretty concerned on this one.
 
Well i doubt i will ever see my part of the deal.


Warning!!!! DO NOT TRADE WITH GAMEPROZERO!!!!!!


He is ducking me because he stole my copy of Yoshi's touch and go and did not send me my copy of Mr Driller for the DS.
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']Well i doubt i will ever see my part of the deal.


Warning!!!! DO NOT TRADE WITH GAMEPROZERO!!!!!!


He is ducking me because he stole my copy of Yoshi's touch and go and did not send me my copy of Mr Driller for the DS.[/QUOTE]

sorry to hear that dude.
 
[quote name='buffdrew84']Well i doubt i will ever see my part of the deal.


Warning!!!! DO NOT TRADE WITH GAMEPROZERO!!!!!!


He is ducking me because he stole my copy of Yoshi's touch and go and did not send me my copy of Mr Driller for the DS.[/QUOTE]

If you've left negative feedback for him, that's about all you can do from a CAG perspective.

At this point, I'd go to your local post office and file mail fraud charges against him. Your local PO can tell you what you need to do to get this done.
 
it sounds like you have a legit case to file fraud complaints with the fbi and usps

usps fraud form

http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm

federal trade commission fraud form.

https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

now i got ripped off about a year ago, they eventually sent me more forms to fill out and then i never heard back from them

the more information you can dig up on them the better you can fill out the forms.

if you can get their phone number from www.whowhere.com (type in their name and addy and get their phone number)

Honestly, since the value of the item you lost is pretty low($15 to $20) i doubt they will do much, but maybe in 6 months someone will get around to following up on this.
 
Fill his mailbox with pms aking about the game and see if he answers. Or just tell us his name so we could maybe help u a little bit, and to give us a heads up about him
 
[quote name='crazyboxer12']Or just tell us his name so we could maybe help u a little bit, and to give us a heads up about him[/QUOTE]

Reading the thread may solve that problem:

[quote name='buffdrew84']Well i doubt i will ever see my part of the deal.


Warning!!!! DO NOT TRADE WITH GAMEPROZERO!!!!!!


He is ducking me because he stole my copy of Yoshi's touch and go and did not send me my copy of Mr Driller for the DS.[/QUOTE]
 
^ oh yeah, I read the thread after I replied to it. I always thought gameprozero was a good trader. I'd advice u to be patient with him for a little bit, and see what happens then
 
well, he may be a good trader but he just sent to the wrong address? Why does he think he sent to the wrong address? does he think he sent to another cager? if so just find out who it is and ask them if they will mail you your game.

You probably dont want to fill his mailbox with junk, just email him and send him another PM and ask him for any information possible so you can track down your game(assuming he mailed it out).
 
People who do things like this should have their PM priveleges suspended so they can only communicate openly in threads, via a valid email address or via a valid phone number. PM's are a scammers best friend based on past experience with trading on other forums. I'm instantly wary of people who don't share email addy's and only want to "keep it on CAG" via PM's, and there have been a few.
 
[quote name='Gaming-Module']People who do things like this should have their PM priveleges suspended so they can only communicate openly in threads, via a valid email address or via a valid phone number. PM's are a scammers best friend based on past experience with trading on other forums. I'm instantly wary of people who don't share email addy's and only want to "keep it on CAG" via PM's, and there have been a few.[/QUOTE]

And on the flip-side of that, would you want your phone # or email address posted into an open forum, where anyone can harrass you over it?

Once it's posted in an open forum, anyone can see it and do anything they want with it.

Scammer or no, I have some serious issues with that being the case. Suspending their PM priviledges, yes, that has some merit, though to require them to post info like that, I don't think that would fly.
 
[quote name='Gaming-Module']People who do things like this should have their PM priveleges suspended so they can only communicate openly in threads, via a valid email address or via a valid phone number. PM's are a scammers best friend based on past experience with trading on other forums. I'm instantly wary of people who don't share email addy's and only want to "keep it on CAG" via PM's, and there have been a few.[/QUOTE]
If someone is suspended from their PM previledges they could just talk over an instant messenger. And anyone could easily make an e-mail address.
 
even if he sent it to a wrong address, it has been more than sufficient time for him to receive it back and sent it to me. Also i send him pms asking about the progress of my game and he replies days sometimes a week or so later and says somthing like "i will get you your game. I hope you are not mad"
 
Regardless, he should reply to your PMs if he did send it to the wrong address. Hopefully this gets resolved. Luckily its only for a $20 amount, and not something like a console or anything.
 
true but i payed over 30 for it and now i have nothing to show for it. What irks me the most is how powerless i am. It just comes off as cowardly to do something like this. If only i could have done this face to face, then shit like this wouldnt happen, but such is online trading i suppose.
 
[quote name='buffdrew84'] i payed over 30 for it
.[/QUOTE]

what kind of cheapass are you?!

you paid $30 for that game? i can pick it up for $5 at gamerush. yeesh. at least get it for $25 at best buy with the GGC.



as for being powerless you can file mail fraud for failure to provide. that looks prett valid to me, just say what happened and dont start talking about him being an ass or whatever(just the facts)
 
im going to lock this, since i feel its run all useful course. the op has been told to file mail fruad, and that cag cant do anything for him, if he dosent contact you, leave him a neg and chalk it up to a lesson learned.

i understand why these threads exist, but they never actully DO anything.

they do not warn people anymore than a neg feedback does
and the odds of the person just comming back into communication BECAUSE there was a thread (as opposed to other reasons) is pretty small
 
[quote name='punqsux']im going to lock this, since i feel its run all useful course. the op has been told to file mail fruad, and that cag cant do anything for him, if he dosent contact you, leave him a neg and chalk it up to a lesson learned.

i understand why these threads exist, but they never actully DO anything.

they do not warn people anymore than a neg feedback does
and the odds of the person just comming back into communication BECAUSE there was a thread (as opposed to other reasons) is pretty small[/QUOTE]

Thanks for locking it. Beat me to the punch. I'm with you on all the above points.
 
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