Jack Conway is a douchebag.

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Alright, we have a few dozen topics about Republicans and even a topic dedicated to just pointing out all their classless moments. It seems rare we get much for Democrats, but Jack Conway certainly deserves his own topic.

Not only has he put out attack ads based on something Rand Paul did 20+ years ago, he has spun what actually happened time and time again and has like a dozen commercials out trying to make it seem like Rand Paul is part of some weird religion or something and that he regulary mocks Christians. It is just dirty politics and whenever the guy has an interview instead of talking about the issues it seems like Conway just repeats the same two lines from his commercial over and over.

For those that do not know what the controversy is, essentially Rand Paul was part of some sorority that played a lot of practical jokes. One of the practical jokes was to kidnap and tie up a girl they knew and then make her pray in front of their "God" aquabuddah. Now that you know, here is one of Conways commercials and how he portrays it.

Good example right here and this has been debate after debate and ad after ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kue_tc2LQek
 
It's heresay. It's something he did in college. It's about religion. Yuck.

That said, were you as outraged when Elizabeth Dole attacked sunday School teacher Kay Hagan for associating with an atheist group? And Barack Obama's faith is completely irrelevant, right? Crystal Ball's reindeer dildo nose pictures aren't fair game right? Just making sure there is consistency here.

Sidenote, it's sad that it might be working. Latest KY poll shows Conway 49 Paul 46.
 
[quote name='IRHari']It's heresay. It's something he did in college. It's about religion. Yuck.

That said, were you as outraged when Elizabeth Dole attacked sunday School teacher Kay Hagan for associating with an atheist group? And Barack Obama's faith is completely irrelevant, right? Crystal Ball's reindeer dildo nose pictures aren't fair game right? Just making sure there is consistency here.

Sidenote, it's sad that it might be working. Latest KY poll shows Conway 49 Paul 46.[/QUOTE]

You do realize I am neither a Republican nor a Christian right? If anything I am in contrast and contribution in my life to both those groups. Conway is just that big of a douche that I felt I HAD to post since no one else had, nor has anyone covered the Democratic school loans scandal which should have a topic.
 
Great. That's awesome.

You should probably go ahead and make a 'stay classy democrats' thread to counter the gigantic 'stay class republicans' thread.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']essentially Rand Paul was part of some sorority[/quote]

zut alors! a sorority? what else isn't Rand telling us about his past?

that played a lot of practical jokes
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well, that is one thing college orgs do. go on.

One of the practical jokes was to kidnap and tie up a girl
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That's hilarious! Kidnapping and unlawful restraint are some of my favorite hijinks! I remember when I was in college we took a girl and threw gasoline on her and set her aflame. You should have seen her run around, flapping her arms and screaming! Quite the practical joke, even if the judge disagreed. But he was an old coot.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']zut alors! a sorority? what else isn't Rand telling us about his past?



well, that is one thing college orgs do. go on.



That's hilarious! Kidnapping and unlawful restraint are some of my favorite hijinks! I remember when I was in college we took a girl and threw gasoline on her and set her aflame. You should have seen her run around, flapping her arms and screaming! Quite the practical joke, even if the judge disagreed. But he was an old coot.[/QUOTE]

Myke, spinning an issue and the point of what someone said....nooooo never, especially not in defense of Democrats or Democratic principle! As per usual you either choose to miss the point, or just missed it in general(or your trolling as you admitted loving to do years before).

The point is that Conway is making this out to be a religious issue and acting like a douche in general. If Conway was making an issue out of him kidnapping someone and forcing them to do bong hits, then yes he may have a point(though I would say anything that someone did 20-30 years ago in college is hardly ever worth note). However what he is going on an on about is not Pauls judgement, but the religious aspect of this. He is clearly trying to fear monger(which with religious folk aint hard to do!).

There are a million things that he could legitimately choose to debate Paul on that makes Paul look like a moron and a douche himself. For instance Pauls Civil Right stance or his other extreme libertarian views, instead he chooses to repeat this Aquabuddah line and smirk and smile like a douche. It is actually pretty similar to Christine O Donelle attempting to drag up the whole Bearded Marxist debate.

Anyways Myke, try again!
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Quit crying about yourself, and go to the video you posted. Point out where Conway is attacking Paul's "religion" or "faith."[/QUOTE]

Again not something I said. Conway is not attacking Pauls religion he is accusing Paul of being part of a group thats sole goal and purpose is to attack religion while at the same time playing up the bowing down to a statue prank to be like he worshiped some false God. Regardless Myke, no matter how you want to twist or squirm this is dirty politics 101.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Again not something I said. Conway is not attacking Pauls religion he is accusing Paul of being part of a group thats sole goal and purpose is to attack religion while at the same time playing up the bowing down to a statue prank to be like he worshiped some false God. Regardless Myke, no matter how you want to twist or squirm this is dirty politics 101.[/QUOTE]
If this is what you consider dirty, what do you call what the Republicans have been doing for the last 5 years muchless 10, 20, 40+ years?
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Again not something I said. Conway is not attacking Pauls religion he is accusing Paul of being part of a group thats sole goal and purpose is to attack religion while at the same time playing up the bowing down to a statue prank to be like he worshiped some false God. Regardless Myke, no matter how you want to twist or squirm this is dirty politics 101.[/QUOTE]

herpa derpa.

[quote name='MSI Magus'][Conway] has like a dozen commercials out trying to make it seem like Rand Paul is part of some weird religion or something and that he regulary mocks Christians.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='dohdough']If this is what you consider dirty, what do you call what the Republicans have been doing for the last 5 years muchless 10, 20, 40+ years?[/QUOTE]

Dirty politics. Hell for Republicans something like this is actually tame. Do not think that just because I am blasting a Democrat that means I am a Republican(why does everyone do this?).
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Dirty politics. Hell for Republicans something like this is actually tame. Do not think that just because I am blasting a Democrat that means I am a Republican(why does everyone do this?).[/QUOTE]
LOLZ...well you're certainly no leftie and don't pretend that you're a centrist. If this is tame, what do you call Willie Horton, Obama the anti-christ, and William Ayers?

So riddle me this: why all of the outrage all of a sudden when a couple Dems put out some harsh ads when the Rubs have been doing it since forever. Hell, in NH, the right is eating itself alive. You should see the ads coming from that state.
 
[quote name='dohdough']LOLZ...well you're certainly no leftie and don't pretend that you're a centrist. If this is tame, what do you call Willie Horton, Obama the anti-christ, and William Ayers?

So riddle me this: why all of the outrage all of a sudden when a couple Dems put out some harsh ads when the Rubs have been doing it since forever. Hell, in NH, the right is eating itself alive. You should see the ads coming from that state.[/QUOTE]

I like the way you do not know me, who I have voted for or what I stand for....yet you make a judgment call on me and who I must be. Again I never said that Republicans are not doing this or Dems started it or anything of the likes. Republicans have done this longer and dirtier, it is not something I deny. I was just making a post(not even outraged post)on a Democrat using Republican tactics. I mean Christ it should say how needed it is at this board that even though I am a left winger I am not being strung up like an Anti Christ and grilled like a steak simply for doing so.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']I like the way you do not know me, who I have voted for or what I stand for....yet you make a judgment call on me and who I must be. Again I never said that Republicans are not doing this or Dems started it or anything of the likes. Republicans have done this longer and dirtier, it is not something I deny. I was just making a post(not even outraged post)on a Democrat using Republican tactics. I mean Christ it should say how needed it is at this board that even though I am a left winger I am not being strung up like an Anti Christ and grilled like a steak simply for doing so.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't call you a lefty(there's room for debate here), I call you confused. You're a bit of a mixed bag of ideologies and this is what I gather from your posts.

Either way, Dems getting down and dirty isn't anything new either, it's just in far fewer numbers compared to Pubs. The left is certainly not exempt from criticism, but in the grand scheme of things, it's ultimately worthless to address it because this is not typical of the Dems. What we should really be addressing is the crap from the right. I mean Grayson's Taliban commercial was far "worse," but as a trend, these guys are outliers.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']quiet you. unless you conform to the dems on this board, your opinion is worthless.[/QUOTE]
LOLZ..."dems"...as in "libs" "pinkos" "commies" :roll:

If only we could evolve above name-calling and coded language...:drool:
 
[quote name='dohdough']I wouldn't call you a lefty(there's room for debate here), I call you confused. You're a bit of a mixed bag of ideologies and this is what I gather from your posts.

Either way, Dems getting down and dirty isn't anything new either, it's just in far fewer numbers compared to Pubs. The left is certainly not exempt from criticism, but in the grand scheme of things, it's ultimately worthless to address it because this is not typical of the Dems. What we should really be addressing is the crap from the right. I mean Grayson's Taliban commercial was far "worse," but as a trend, these guys are outliers.[/QUOTE]

Well I am far enough left that if they could actually win elections I would vote green party most of the time. I am let down by Obama not by the fact that he may raise taxes on the rich or that he passed Obama care and instead because he refuses to raise taxes for everyone(greater on the rich, but still raise middle class tax rates)and that the health care bill had no real teeth without a public option. The economy is a smaller concern to me then pollution, the decrease in water levels and Global Warming(be it man made or naturally occuring). Issue after issue I tend to be to the far left. If I come across at all to the right it is probably mostly from having to play devils advocate or point out flaws of the left thanks to the wrongheadedness of people like Myke and Strell who can not seem to handle any critic of the left what so ever and are constantly down the throat of the right.

Anyways, as I said I agree that this is nothing new and that the right runs ads a hell of a lot worse then this. However, it does not make this any more acceptable.
 
[quote name='dead of knight']it's not like anyone needs to make shit up about rand paul to convince the general public that he's a nutcase.[/quote]

exactly!
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Well I am far enough left that if they could actually win elections I would vote green party most of the time. I am let down by Obama not by the fact that he may raise taxes on the rich or that he passed Obama care and instead because he refuses to raise taxes for everyone(greater on the rich, but still raise middle class tax rates)and that the health care bill had no real teeth without a public option. The economy is a smaller concern to me then pollution, the decrease in water levels and Global Warming(be it man made or naturally occuring). Issue after issue I tend to be to the far left. If I come across at all to the right it is probably mostly from having to play devils advocate or point out flaws of the left thanks to the wrongheadedness of people like Myke and Strell who can not seem to handle any critic of the left what so ever and are constantly down the throat of the right.

Anyways, as I said I agree that this is nothing new and that the right runs ads a hell of a lot worse then this. However, it does not make this any more acceptable.[/QUOTE]
In that case, maybe you should put a disclaimer from now on. We ARE what we post.

edit: But after going back a little, you're not as left as you may think.
 
No, THIS has classy written all over it:

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Hope ein Change!
 
[quote name='IRHari']No, THIS has classy written all over it:

ObamaSocialist.jpg


Hope ein Change![/QUOTE]

It was that or the one with Obama's face on a monkey but they did that already with Bush so I found the next best one.
 
Awesome.

Obama's face on a monkey has racial implications. Bush's face on a monkey does not. One is more offensive then the other, but both are in bad taste.
 
[quote name='IRHari']Awesome.

Obama's face on a monkey has racial implications. Bush's face on a monkey does not. One is more offensive then the other, but both are in bad taste.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Redundant Man! Obama doesn't have a little 'stache above, but Bush did. I didn't freak out when I saw that on here or whereever I did see it probably because I'm not anal about free speech when it's not being nice to my party. I wish we could stop this PC crap and oversensitivity to every little thing. I was making fun of a stupid white liberal, I think we all can have a laugh at him and not be racist.

And the irony of you having, what is that supposed to be white guy Darwin? on top of a monkey, while we are talking is not lost on me.
 
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Turns out that Rand Paul -- who has been incensed over Jack Conway's suggestion that Paul's college hijinks are relevant to the Kentucky Senate race -- was very recently the candidate making attack ads aimed at the decisions another man made in his college years.

Back in the hotly contested Republican primary, which pitted Paul against establishment pick Trey Grayson, Paul had a field day making an issue out of Grayson's college-age support for Bill Clinton...
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Outraged @ the hypocrisy? Anyone? Bueller?
 
[quote name='jputahraptor']Thanks Redundant Man! Obama doesn't have a little 'stache above, but Bush did. I didn't freak out when I saw that on here or whereever I did see it probably because I'm not anal about free speech when it's not being nice to my party. I wish we could stop this PC crap and oversensitivity to every little thing. I was making fun of a stupid white liberal, I think we all can have a laugh at him and not be racist.

And the irony of you having, what is that supposed to be white guy Darwin? on top of a monkey, while we are talking is not lost on me.[/QUOTE]

No, in addition to being a close-minded bigoted fool, you're also a racist. Sorry.
 
[quote name='camoor']No, in addition to being a close-minded bigoted fool, you're also a racist. Sorry.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know, you've already painted all Republicans as racist blah blah, we'll ignore the fact that Republicans have done far more for African Americans throughout history then you libs and I'm sure you'll deny you are racist against European Americans and anti-Christian so don't worry about me. I'm not going to be politically correct for your benefit, you smug hypocrite.
 
[quote name='jputahraptor']Yeah I know, you've already painted all Republicans as racist blah blah, we'll ignore the fact that Republicans have done far more for African Americans throughout history then you libs and I'm sure you'll deny you are racist against European Americans and anti-Christian so don't worry about me. I'm not going to be politically correct for your benefit, you smug hypocrite.[/QUOTE]
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAH...ORLY? First off, define "Republicans" and we'll go from there.
 
[quote name='dohdough']HAHAHHAHAHAHHAH...ORLY? First off, define "Republicans" and we'll go from there.[/QUOTE]
Um. Dohdough?

I think he's referring to him.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Um. Dohdough?

I think he's referring to him.[/QUOTE]
Ummm...I think he's trying to say that the Republicans back then are the same ones as today. Either way, just because they weren't slaves any more doesn't mean they were free or equal.

Also, it has more to do with regionalism than political party.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Ummm...I think he's trying to say that the Republicans back then are the same ones as today. Either way, just because they weren't slaves any more doesn't mean they were free or equal.

Also, it has more to do with regionalism than political party.[/QUOTE]

Well then by that logic the democratic party has vastly changed since the 40's when they begun to be infiltrated by socialists who redistributed incomes through social programs other than social security which is fine because it comes out of a workers pay. At that point, they were pretty much able to buy off the poor with welfare in exchange for votes.

Tell me all the wonderful things that the democrats who keep getting reelected in inner cities do to help their communties not get by, but actually improve their their lives? I can't think of one thing. You see things like the guy from Facebook who donates 100 million to the inner cities of Newark to help their education, I don't see shit of the same old liberals. They are the ones keeping blacks down. Hell Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican. Democrats buy votes with the middle class's money, they do not improve the schools and get businesses back to the inner cities for jobs because they want the votes that they won't get once they begin to approach middle class.

Lincoln freed the slaves, Republicans cast a larger percentage of votes for Civil Rights, Democrats for 152 vs.96 and Republicans 138 vs. 34 in the House of Rep., the only member of the KKK in the senate was a democrat, Al Gore Sr. voted against it, Bush had a diverse Cabinet, democrats don't vote blacks into higher office like the supreme court, and how Bill Clinton screwed blacks could be a post all it's own. I hear how the democrats are friends to blacks but I don't see any proof.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Um. Dohdough?

I think he's referring to him.[/QUOTE]
I hope not, Lincoln wasn't the hero to slaves some people think he was.
 
HAHAHAHA...so I posted your next argument was and then gave you a response, yet you still felt the need to make that argument anyways. Good job there. :applause:

[quote name='jputahraptor']Well then by that logic the democratic party has vastly changed since the 40's when they begun to be infiltrated by socialists who redistributed incomes through social programs other than social security which is fine because it comes out of a workers pay. At that point, they were pretty much able to buy off the poor with welfare in exchange for votes.[/quote]
The New Deal helped white people, not black people.

Tell me all the wonderful things that the democrats who keep getting reelected in inner cities do to help their communties not get by, but actually improve their their lives? I can't think of one thing.
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We have single-payer healthcare in MA. How about that?

You see things like the guy from Facebook who donates 100 million to the inner cities of Newark to help their education, I don't see shit of the same old liberals. They are the ones keeping blacks down.
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I have my own critique of liberals in general, but the current mantra of personal responsibility and bootstrapping doesn't help when black people were purposefully depressed and overtly oppressed no more than....oh hell, they still are. Yet you blame "liberals" for keeping black people down?

Hell Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican.
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How nice of the right to claim MLK as their own. They only ostracized him for being a communist and a socialist when he was alive. Not to mention that he supported reparations and denounced the racist elements of the Republicans, not that the Democrats were any better, but the numbers you quote below don't account for the Southern tally, which was almost unanimously against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. But I don't expect anything less than intellectual and straight up dishonesty from you.

Democrats buy votes with the middle class's money, they do not improve the schools and get businesses back to the inner cities for jobs because they want the votes that they won't get once they begin to approach middle class.
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That's because those socialists you talk about decided to fund a white middle-class in the New Deal while black people were left in places that were gutted from the white flight. And then what happened to the towns and cities after white people left? Absolutely nothing. They were left to fend for themselves.

Lincoln freed the slaves, Republicans cast a larger percentage of votes for Civil Rights, Democrats for 152 vs.96 and Republicans 138 vs. 34 in the House of Rep., the only member of the KKK in the senate was a democrat, Al Gore Sr. voted against it, Bush had a diverse Cabinet, democrats don't vote blacks into higher office like the supreme court, and how Bill Clinton screwed blacks could be a post all it's own. I hear how the democrats are friends to blacks but I don't see any proof.
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Bush had a diverse cabinet? There's more to diversity than just having numbers. How many black people do you need to have as friends to not be racist?

Sotomayor was a Latina and all you heard from the right was that she was a typical angry Latina. Not sure what your point was on this one.

Point is this: clean up your own house before you start bitching about the left. There's a reason why the right is mostly white people and it's not because the Democrats are buying votes with welfare. Yet you don't say squat about government subsides that corporations require to even be profitable. But tell me more about welfare queens please...:roll:
 
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