James Webb Senator from Virginia(D): Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege

[quote name='fullmetalfan720']http://www.mindingthecampus.com/originals/2010/07/how_diversity_punishes_asians.html
I figured this would be better posted here than in a new topic.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='fullmetalfan720']Creating diversity would be at the very least giving poor and working class whites at least an equal chance of admission as rich whites. And you know, puting that farmboy from Idaho on equal footing as the blue blood from the East Coast.
Oh, and this is the title of the article, so don't try and say I am reading the article wrong.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe I just read that drivel when I already addressed that issue. Seriously though, what's the average percentage of colleges campuses that are white? About 65%. The more elite the school, the more the number skyrockets. Same thing with racial demographics as you go higher up the heirarchy. So instead of really addressing the issue of classism, they scapegoat the people of color instead...typical. Also, it was a nice touch to add "culture war" into the article. No, nothing slanted in that article at all.

Tell me, how is putting more white people in higher education adding to diversity in any meaningful manner when racism goes hand-in-hand with classism here? Despite the fact that black people are pulled over 10 times as much as whites while whites are 4 times as likely to have drugs/paraphernelia, a white man with a criminal record is more likely to get a job then a black man with no record, white sounding names are more likely to get callbacks for interviews than people with ethnic names with the same qualifications, we're still focusing on poor white people that are "losing spots" to people of color, when in reality, they're really losing them to rich(er) white people. Even if it was true, due to the added baggage of being black, a poor white person still has a far better lot in life.

And just so it doesn't seem like I'm completely bashing the article, the author is correct in how colleges cynically use diversity in regards to soft padding their numbers.
 
[quote name='dorino']Creating diversity defeats the point of diversity. fullmetalfan, that's a sad bit of reading.[/QUOTE]
If you mean by not having enough white people is defeating the purpose of diversity, then I suppose it is, but the reverse of that is having less people of color.
 
[quote name='tivo']Good post fullmetalfan. All this reverse discrimination for "diversity." Do people really think we are all that different? Or that skin color in American means a substantial difference in thoughts, ideas, beliefs, etc.?

Last week, Robert Gibbs told reporters that Obama claimed "Sherry Sherrod had a unique set of experiences..." I don't understand this at all. Are they more unique than any average American woman her age. What makes them more unique than anybody else's unique experiences?!? Are they unique because she's black!?!

This is the sort of ridiculous blabber that people put forward as reason for ridiculous appointments. Reverse Racism doesn't mend the past, it only destroys the present and impedes the future.[/QUOTE]

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[quote name='tivo']
Last week, Robert Gibbs told reporters that Obama claimed "Sherry Sherrod had a unique set of experiences..." I don't understand this at all. Are they more unique than any average American woman her age. What makes them more unique than anybody else's unique experiences?!? Are they unique because she's black!?!
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The average American woman her age had crosses burned in their yards growing up? Had a father murdered with no one every arrested (don't know if it was a racially motivated murder?

I'll say it again, all this sub area is good for any more is finding out who the true fucking morons on CAG are to add to my expansive ignore list.:bomb:
 
Stupid!

So she was the victim of hate and racism. Ok, I don't care about that now. It's sad but I wouldn't say those "unique experiences" make her any better than anyone else (my initial point). Perhaps her own struggle with racism and deciding that she should help everyone fairly is remarkable given her past but I'd say a person without the initial slant or chip on their shoulder or whatever would be just as competent at the job, if not more. My point is that we all have unique experiences and to claim such properties as valuable is ridiculous. Competency to do work and RELEVANT EXPERIENCE (i.e. previous work experience) should be the only thing that matters.
 
The unique experience comment was related to her being able to talk about race issues and how they affect people in the south/rural America (and in turn help the USDA deal with civil rights issues etc.)--like she was doing in the statement that got edited and led to that mess.


Not that she had unique experiences that made her qualified for her job with the USDA etc. Seriously, get informed before coming on the net and spouting nonsense.

Here's the quote.

The Agriculture secretary did not go into detail about the new position he offered to Sherrod, but said that “as a result of that experience, she has a unique set of skills in assisting USDA in turning the page on our civil rights chapter, which has been difficult.”
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http://patdollard.com/2010/07/gibbs-white-house-apologize-but-deflect-blame/
 
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dmaul, people without problems like hate and racism are better qualified for jobs. I'm not trying to say only white people are qualified for any job, I'm just saying non-white people aren't.
 
[quote name='tivo']Stupid!

So she was the victim of hate and racism. Ok, I don't care about that now. It's sad but I wouldn't say those "unique experiences" make her any better than anyone else (my initial point). Perhaps her own struggle with racism and deciding that she should help everyone fairly is remarkable given her past but I'd say a person without the initial slant or chip on their shoulder or whatever would be just as competent at the job, if not more. My point is that we all have unique experiences and to claim such properties as valuable is ridiculous. Competency to do work and RELEVANT EXPERIENCE (i.e. previous work experience) should be the only thing that matters.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder because you think people of color are undeservingly getting things that you undeservedly should instead.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']The unique experience comment was related to her being able to talk about race issues and how they affect people in the south/rural America (and in turn help the USDA deal with civil rights issues etc.)--like she was doing in the statement that got edited and led to that mess. [/quote]

if that's her role at the USDA, then you're right. If her job duties include bridging race borders, talk about race, improve civil rights, etc. then you're right and I concede my point. I wasn't able to find what she actually did at the USDA other than help individuals get their land back, but trusting you know what she does from day to day as somewhat related to dealing with hostile racists like the KKK or black panthers than I could see how some employment agency would see her experience as applicable for that job.
 
[quote name='tivo']if that's her role at the USDA, then you're right. If her job duties include bridging race borders, talk about race, improve civil rights, etc. then you're right and I concede my point. I wasn't able to find what she actually did at the USDA other than help individuals get their land back, but trusting you know what she does from day to day as somewhat related to dealing with hostile racists like the KKK or black panthers than I could see how some employment agency would see her experience as applicable for that job.[/QUOTE]
So now the Black Panthers are violent racists like the KKK. I guess that damn liberal media hid all the killings of white people and cross burnings that were running rampant.
 
It's pretty ridiculous that Asians have to work harder for the same result. In this day and age. No wonder so many Asian people in the US also have a western name like Sally or Jim.
 
Poor whites get dicked over at top institutions because of legacy applications, which are about as tilted towards rich white people as anything possibly could be. George H. W. sure as shit didn't get into Princeton on merit. Oh look! We have too many white people now.
 
[quote name='IRHari']Can we stop calling it reverse racism? Just call it racism? It implies one kind of racism is 'normal'.[/QUOTE]
+1,000

I fucking hate the term "reverse racism." It's discrimination based on skin color. That's just racism.

Poor whites get dicked over at top institutions because of legacy applications, which are about as tilted towards rich white people as anything possibly could be. George H. W. sure as shit didn't get into Princeton on merit. Oh look! We have too many white people now
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A country made of European immigrants is predominantly white? I'll never understand it.
 
[quote name='speedracer']Poor whites get dicked over at top institutions because of legacy applications, which are about as tilted towards rich white people as anything possibly could be. George H. W. sure as shit didn't get into Princeton on merit. Oh look! We have too many white people now.[/QUOTE]

You mean Harvard and Yale ;).
 
[quote name='Knoell']You mean Harvard and Yale ;).[/QUOTE]
You're right. God damnit Knoell. You're right. :D

I never got that. If I was gonna pull strings, I'd go for MIT or CIT or some place awesome like that. I just I'm just a nerd.
 
[quote name='speedracer']You're right. God damnit Knoell. You're right. :D

I never got that. If I was gonna pull strings, I'd go for MIT or CIT or some place awesome like that. I just I'm just a nerd.[/QUOTE]

But then you'd never get in the Illuminati.
 
[quote name='tivo']Good post fullmetalfan. All this reverse discrimination for "diversity." Do people really think we are all that different? Or that skin color in American means a substantial difference in thoughts, ideas, beliefs, etc.?

Last week, Robert Gibbs told reporters that Obama claimed "Sherry Sherrod had a unique set of experiences..." I don't understand this at all. Are they more unique than any average American woman her age. What makes them more unique than anybody else's unique experiences?!? Are they unique because she's black!?!

This is the sort of ridiculous blabber that people put forward as reason for ridiculous appointments. Reverse Racism doesn't mend the past, it only destroys the present and impedes the future.[/QUOTE]

Bah, I should have been born a black male. Then everything would be handed to me on a silver platter because of affirmative action.
 
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