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From cube.ign.com's Top Ten Reasons to Wait for Revolution:

#8. 360 Doesn't Have Legend of Zelda
We don't want to dwell on the obvious, but it is an important point, especially since you're reading a Nintendo-centric channel and not a Microsoft one. Xbox 360 may have a lot of things going for it, but the platform doesn't have The Legend of Zelda franchise -- and it never will. If you want to control series hero Link in an all new home console adventure, you can only do it with Nintendo Revolution. And the same is true for all of Nintendo's major games, from Mario to Pikmin, F-Zero and Kid Icarus. You can only find them on one next generation platform and it's not Xbox 360. Considering that millions of gamers have stayed loyal to the Big N through the years simply because they adore these characters and franchises, you'll definitely want to consider this point when planning your next hardware purchase.

I read this paragraph over several times and can't come to a conclusion as to whether the article refers to playing Kid Icarus for NES on the Revolution's 'virtual console' concept or a brand-new next generation game. The immediate preceding sentence speaks of controlling Link in an 'all new home console adventure' so taken together, ign seems to imply there is a new Icarus in development. Is this just wishful thinking on my part or does what I'm thinking make sense?
 
[quote name='coolz481']From cube.ign.com's Top Ten Reasons to Wait for Revolution:

#8. 360 Doesn't Have Legend of Zelda
We don't want to dwell on the obvious, but it is an important point, especially since you're reading a Nintendo-centric channel and not a Microsoft one. Xbox 360 may have a lot of things going for it, but the platform doesn't have The Legend of Zelda franchise -- and it never will. If you want to control series hero Link in an all new home console adventure, you can only do it with Nintendo Revolution. And the same is true for all of Nintendo's major games, from Mario to Pikmin, F-Zero and Kid Icarus. You can only find them on one next generation platform and it's not Xbox 360. Considering that millions of gamers have stayed loyal to the Big N through the years simply because they adore these characters and franchises, you'll definitely want to consider this point when planning your next hardware purchase.

I read this paragraph over several times and can't come to a conclusion as to whether the article refers to playing Kid Icarus for NES on the Revolution's 'virtual console' concept or a brand-new next generation game. The immediate preceding sentence speaks of controlling Link in an 'all new home console adventure' so taken together, ign seems to imply there is a new Icarus in development. Is this just wishful thinking on my part or does what I'm thinking make sense?[/QUOTE]

I would say it refers to downloading the NES game, but I guess its open for debate. My reasoning is the only one of those four games that is confirmed for Rev is Mario. I haven't heard anything about a Pikmin or F-Zero on Rev.
 
IGNcube: Will you make Kid Icarus for Revolution?

Shigeru Miyamoto: Well, I'm actually working really closely right now with the director of the [original] game. Now, whether or not when we get the Revolution all set up and everything is finalized, well who knows? That might be one of those characters where everybody says, "Hey, with the way our console is designed, that would be a perfect match." My question to you is, if we made this game would you buy it?

IGNcube: Absolutely.

Shigeru Miyamoto: Well, we obviously can't ignore that. Okay, we'll get the Eggplant Wizard coming back.
 
I'm kind of on the fence with this one. I played Kid Icarus on the NES way back when, but I'm not sure if I wanna play that game again. I remember it being pretty damn hard... maybe if they offer a difficulty setting that takes it down a notch, I'd give it a try.
 
[quote name='Scobie']I'm kind of on the fence with this one. I played Kid Icarus on the NES way back when, but I'm not sure if I wanna play that game again. I remember it being pretty damn hard... maybe if they offer a difficulty setting that takes it down a notch, I'd give it a try.[/QUOTE]
Well, it was one of those games that was just unnecessarily hard back in the early NES days. I don't think we'd have to worry about that much anymore. Generally they're too easy more often than too hard.
 
Lol about the difficulty. I remember watching my older brother beat kid icarus dozens of time from like 6 to 10 years old. I always loved watching him play when I was little, then got mad when he wouldn't let me play when I was older. Now I dominate both my brothers. Anyways, they really loved that game. I finally beat it when I was 18 after years and years of trying. Still never matched my oldest brothers 7 times in one day though. And probably never will. If they make a new kid icarus I will officially have a reason to buy a revolution.
 
[quote name='botticus']I would say it refers to downloading the NES game, but I guess its open for debate. My reasoning is the only one of those four games that is confirmed for Rev is Mario. I haven't heard anything about a Pikmin or F-Zero on Rev.[/QUOTE]


Wasn't Pikmin 3 slated as a launch title? If it is, that along with SSB will be the best launch ever.
 
[quote name='Scobie']I'm kind of on the fence with this one. I played Kid Icarus on the NES way back when, but I'm not sure if I wanna play that game again. I remember it being pretty damn hard... maybe if they offer a difficulty setting that takes it down a notch, I'd give it a try.[/QUOTE]

Since when is being too hard a valid excuse to not want a game? For that matter Kid Icarus (NES or GB) wasnt THAT hard.

I for one would love to have Pit on the Revolution. Not that I needed a reason to get one anyways...
 
[quote name='Shayde']Wasn't Pikmin 3 slated as a launch title? If it is, that along with SSB will be the best launch ever.[/QUOTE]
Not so sure SSB will be a launch title. I hate sounding like I'm making stuff up, but it was in... IGN I think, they hadn't even picked the director (the guy who worked on the first two SSBs) when they were touting it as the launch title at E3. So before posting this, I will just find the article so it sounds mildly intelligent.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/667/667525p1.html
There it is.
 
[quote name='botticus']Not so sure SSB will be a launch title. I hate sounding like I'm making stuff up, but it was in... IGN I think, they hadn't even picked the director (the guy who worked on the first two SSBs) when they were touting it as the launch title at E3. So before posting this, I will just find the article so it sounds mildly intelligent.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/667/667525p1.html
There it is.[/QUOTE]


well I guess it depends on when they planning on releasing a console. They talked to the guy after E3 which was may so they could have it made by the time the system comes out which is at least May.
 
[quote name='iufoltzie']Since when is being too hard a valid excuse to not want a game? For that matter Kid Icarus (NES or GB) wasnt THAT hard.[/QUOTE]

Alright then. I'll call Mr. Iwata and tell him we also want Ghouls-N-Ghosts on the Revolution... y'know, for the kids and for the grandparents.

I appreciate a challenge, but I'm getting old and cranky and don't have the time to sit around replaying a level 50 times to beat it, and then repeat that for every damn level of the game.

Don't get me wrong, Kid Icarus might turn out to be awesome on the Rev... I'm just saying I'm not too stoked on it right now. A Duck Hunt remake, on the other hand, would be a great launch title. Maybe with DS connectivity so the dog in the game could be your Nintendog...

(Thank you! Thank you! I'll be at the bar if anybody wants to pelt me with rotten tomatoes!)
 
Many games featuring Nintendo's classic franchises, such as Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Animal Crossing, Metroid, Super Smash Brothers, Pokémon, and Donkey Kong, have been announced. Nintendo has also announced that it is in the process of developing an entirely new and original franchise to be added into the Nintendo universe, although all other details about this project are unknown at this time. It has been speculated that the new franchise might be more mature than most previous Nintendo games. Square Enix is working on a sequel Crystal Chronicles title, Ubisoft is releasing Splinter Cell 4 on all major consoles including Revolution, and has announced an exclusive FPS and an another non exclusive game. The exclusive title is being coined off as a 'Doom' clone. Blitz has announced that Possession will come to all three next-gen consoles. Koei and Namco/Bandai (merging) have made announcements that they will make games for Revolution but not what games yet. Also, Camelot has announced that they are currently working on a Revolution RPG. Some rumors say that this may very well be the third Golden Sun game. Killer 7 producer Goichi Suda, aka Suda 51, has confirmed that Grasshopper Manufacture is planning to make a Revolution game. [20] According to Game Informer, Hideo Kojima is developing a Revolution game with the team from Kojima Productions that developed Metal Gear Acid.
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Here is a list of known games in development with links to sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Revolution_games
 
Kid Icarus is looked back at with overly fond memories - it was a level-based Metroid, but with half the features taken out. I do like the game, but there are much better games that could be remade.

And thanks for the link, Slash...interesting stuff.
 
[quote name='s1eepinglionhart']Uhhh... is it just me, or can anyone else even imagine using the funky remote style controller for a fighting game, like Soul Calibur or SSB? :shock:[/QUOTE]

Well, I never imagined that a platforming game would be playable with only a touch screen, but Nintendo proved me wrong with Kirby on the DS. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt till I play SSB. SC will probably be one to use the "traditional" adapter shell.
 
[quote name='Shayde']Wasn't Pikmin 3 slated as a launch title? If it is, that along with SSB will be the best launch ever.[/QUOTE]

Pikmin has been said by Miyamoto to be one of the most natural selections to make a sequel for on the Revolution. Also, as mentioned above, Kid Icarus has been mentioned more than once in interviews with him. And he even said that he is working with the original director.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']well I guess it depends on when they planning on releasing a console. They talked to the guy after E3 which was may so they could have it made by the time the system comes out which is at least May.[/QUOTE]


you wont see a May release for Revolution. Game developers just got their first look at the console this past october...i highly doubt that 7 months would be long enough to have a lanuch. More realisticly E3 '06 will be used to showcase games in progress.

i truely believe that nintendos next console will debut next holiday season just like the xbox 360 this year. Nintendo is in no hurry to push this out (even though they did say on several occasions that they would release at the same time as their competitors)
 
[quote name='undyingforce5']you wont see a May release for Revolution. Game developers just got their first look at the console this past october...i highly doubt that 7 months would be long enough to have a lanuch. More realisticly E3 '06 will be used to showcase games in progress.

i truely believe that nintendos next console will debut next holiday season just like the xbox 360 this year. Nintendo is in no hurry to push this out (even though they did say on several occasions that they would release at the same time as their competitors)[/QUOTE]

Why do people keep saying this? The Revolution is an evolution of the GCN hardware. You can develop a game on the GCN (just making it to specifications beyond the GCN) and create a game for the Revolution. The public has known this for around a year. Developers likely knew this longer. Miyamoto or Iwata said that key, trusted developers had a controller prototype as long ago as last fall. Just because you don't know anything about a product doesn't mean the people who will develop for it don't know. Revolution game development did not start the last week of September 2005!

Also, the only thing we know is that the earliest it will come is the end of May 2006. But that is not certain. But if you pay attention to everything Nintendo has said, a launch around that time is the only thing that makes sense. They originally wanted to be the first out of the gates. But that was before M$ decided to push up the new generation by a year. They still want to be out early, but aren't going to sacrifice quality and preparedness. That would suggest that they are still going to try and launch competitively with Sony. And if the rumors are true and Sony can't launch now until 2007, all the more reason for Nintendo to go as early as they can without sacrificing anything. That would be the biggest gift they could ask for! Then you move on to the fact that the reason they have not shown games is that they want consumers to experience them for themselves for the first time, rather than just hear about the games. They know that touching is good;) . So they showed possibilities by showcasing the controller in September. But if they had shown games, it is too far away from launch and they feared that people would not fully understand without firsthand experience. But they are going to be showing playable games on the e3 show floor. But still, everyone cannot be there, but they have to show the games at some point. This would suggest (by their recent comments of wanting peopole to expeience the games firstand instead of reading about them) that they would be launching as soon as possible thereafter. My logical guess would be that there would be demo kiosks in stores at least by June (if not sooner) and that the first region's launch would be in June, or no later than July at most. And then the Revolution would be available worldwide by at least the beginning of September.

A holiday release makes absolutely no sense to me. If Sony is ale to launch in Q2 or Q3 of 2006, that would be suicide. If the rumors are true about a PS3 launch in '07, then that would be forfeiting the biggest chance they ever were granted to make gains. Also, they have gone through many launches. They know what they are like. They hope for this to be the best ever. That means they need to be more prepared than ever. If they launched in the holidays, they would quickly sell out, and leave far more demand than they could fill. They almost did this with the DS, but thankfully they had not made the decision that M$ did to hold back supplies, s they were semi-ready to make unexpected shipments. They launched the N64 in the summer and still had shortages come Christmas. If they get as ready as they can with hardware early in the year and launch mid-year, then even if they do have unexpected shortages, they can remedy that in planty of time for Christmas and still have more product to sell during the biggest shopping time of the year. A holiday release makes no sense.
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']Why do people keep saying this? The Revolution is an evolution of the GCN hardware. You can develop a game on the GCN (just making it to specifications beyond the GCN) and create a game for the Revolution. The public has known this for around a year. Developers likely knew this longer. Miyamoto or Iwata said that key, trusted developers had a controller prototype as long ago as last fall. Just because you don't know anything about a product doesn't mean the people who will develop for it don't know. Revolution game development did not start the last week of September 2005!

Also, the only thing we know is that the earliest it will come is the end of May 2006. But that is not certain. But if you pay attention to everything Nintendo has said, a launch around that time is the only thing that makes sense. They originally wanted to be the first out of the gates. But that was before M$ decided to push up the new generation by a year. They still want to be out early, but aren't going to sacrifice quality and preparedness. That would suggest that they are still going to try and launch competitively with Sony. And if the rumors are true and Sony can't launch now until 2007, all the more reason for Nintendo to go as early as they can without sacrificing anything. That would be the biggest gift they could ask for! Then you move on to the fact that the reason they have not shown games is that they want consumers to experience them for themselves for the first time, rather than just hear about the games. They know that touching is good;) . So they showed possibilities by showcasing the controller in September. But if they had shown games, it is too far away from launch and they feared that people would not fully understand without firsthand experience. But they are going to be showing playable games on the e3 show floor. But still, everyone cannot be there, but they have to show the games at some point. This would suggest (by their recent comments of wanting peopole to expeience the games firstand instead of reading about them) that they would be launching as soon as possible thereafter. My logical guess would be that there would be demo kiosks in stores at least by June (if not sooner) and that the first region's launch would be in June, or no later than July at most. And then the Revolution would be available worldwide by at least the beginning of September.

A holiday release makes absolutely no sense to me. If Sony is ale to launch in Q2 or Q3 of 2006, that would be suicide. If the rumors are true about a PS3 launch in '07, then that would be forfeiting the biggest chance they ever were granted to make gains. Also, they have gone through many launches. They know what they are like. They hope for this to be the best ever. That means they need to be more prepared than ever. If they launched in the holidays, they would quickly sell out, and leave far more demand than they could fill. They almost did this with the DS, but thankfully they had not made the decision that M$ did to hold back supplies, s they were semi-ready to make unexpected shipments. They launched the N64 in the summer and still had shortages come Christmas. If they get as ready as they can with hardware early in the year and launch mid-year, then even if they do have unexpected shortages, they can remedy that in planty of time for Christmas and still have more product to sell during the biggest shopping time of the year. A holiday release makes no sense.[/QUOTE]

this is coming from a person who actually thinks the Nintnedo Revolution is going to compete with Sony & Microsoft Graphically...are you still holding out hope????

the fact of the matter is that you are getting so strung up on my opinion. and you are basing yours off of rumors. i have never heard anything about The REv being just an evolution of the GCN hardware (im sure you basing your opinion on this because the rev will play GCN games so easyliy) show me some proof that this has been known for more than a year like youve stated

"Miyamoto or Iwata said that key, trusted developers had a controller prototype as long ago as last fall." show me proof that developers have had the prototype since fall '04. and even if this is true (which i highly doubt it is) then only a handful (maybe less) of game developers had kits...and everyone else has only 7 months to produce something for a may launch which would equal a crap game launch

Nintendo has always stated that their direct competitor was Sony and that they would release the rev around the same time as them. but they have been silent on this for quite sometime. I BELIEVE Nintendo knows they cant launch at the same time as sony because they dont want to rush the system out early just to compete. I believe Nintendo will be last out the gate come next year ( i dont read rumors and i dont read much on sonys launch details but Sony isnt stupid enough to launch in 07, and your stupid if you believe these RUMORS!!!)

"So they showed possibilities by showcasing the controller in September. But if they had shown games, it is too far away from launch and they feared that people would not fully understand without firsthand experience. "
this i believe also but i also believe that Nintendo didnt have any games ready to show anyways. the best thing they had to show (behind closed doors) was Metriod Prime echoes using the new controller. if they had a Revolution game to show they would have.

A holiday release may make no sense to you but to Nintendo it does.
http://ds.ign.com/articles/549/549919p1.html
THe DS launched in November and Nintendo cashed in major because of it. im not saying that THe Revolution will launch during the month of November but somewhere around this date is more plausable than June. Nintendo (or any gaming company for that matter) wouldnt showcase their games (for the very first time) to the public May 06 to have a release the month after.

i for one would love to see a June release date but i strongly believe it wont happen. were not living in the N64 days and ill be the first to say that history repeats it self but Nintendo has slowing been losing their fanbase with each new system they put out. dont expect to see what the N64 did in 06

TIME will prove you wrong
 
[quote name='undyingforce5']
the fact of the matter is that you are getting so strung up on my opinion. and you are basing yours off of rumors. i have never heard anything about The REv being just an evolution of the GCN hardware (im sure you basing your opinion on this because the rev will play GCN games so easyliy) show me some proof that this has been known for more than a year like youve stated
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It has been stated many times that the Rev dev kits are very similar to the Cubes.
 
Speaking of Revolution development being similar to the GC's... I read a rumor in January's EGM (newest one) where they said that Rev games barely look much better than GC's.

Now, normally, I'd say maybe that's due to the first batch of games but since the Rev uses the same API as the GC... that can't be too accurate. Hopefully, this is only a rumor.
 
[quote name='Vinny']Speaking of Revolution development being similar to the GC's... I read a rumor in January's EGM (newest one) where they said that Rev games barely look much better than GC's.

Now, normally, I'd say maybe that's due to the first batch of games but since the Rev uses the same API as the GC... that can't be too accurate. Hopefully, this is only a rumor.[/QUOTE]
I guess it depends on what games were viewed. I mean... they aren't gonna make Mario more realistic, so I'm not sure how much prettier/better those kinds of games would be.
 
[quote name='botticus']It has been stated many times that the Rev dev kits are very similar to the Cubes.[/QUOTE]

ive never read this before

could you provide a link?
 
An evaluation of early Revolution games is useless without actually playing it - I don't care what the screenshots look like right now, EGM. I'm not sure how graphics in a Mario game could be 'better' - how realistic can a Mushroom Kingdom be anyway? That's why Nintendo is focused on changing up the control aspects of their franchises - raise your hand if you were underwhelmed just a little bit by Mario Sunshine and Zelda Windwaker (that should be most of you). It's not that the games were worse than their N64 counterparts, it's simply that it was more of the same in a shinier package.

I hope that if Nintendo decides to grant a U.S. magazine exclusive looks at its Revolution lineup, it will go with a magazine like Play, which at least demonstrates enthusiasm for the hobby, rather than EGM, which can barely get excited for anything that isn't Splinter Cell, Halo or Madden NFL.
 
Interesting but theres no way they would use the same hardware. Im sure the graphics will be punched up quite a bit and the dev kits will be used monetarily until the new hardware is revealed.
 
Nintendo blew it with the Kid Icarus franchise. It was a great 8-bit NES game back in the day but doesn't exactly hold up well today compared to other 2D games that appeared on the SNES later on (play Super Metroid and then try and play Metroid - you can't). Kid Icarus for the Revolution will not sell well. People who are between 13-27 (which is a huge part of the video game buying public) have most likely never even played it. They sat on it too long and instead of releasing a new game every 4 years or so to keep it fresh they did nothing.

Even Metroid suffered from too long of a layoff and I think Metroid Prime is the best game I've ever played and it didn't sell as well as hoped. With all the cookie-cutter 3D platformers out there I don't see how Kid Icarus could really do well - especially when there are already kick ass games out there with the same themes (for example, God of War). I hope I'm wrong though...
 
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