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Thoughts on WM:

Angle-HBK was easily the best match. The beginning was a bit slow with HBK trying to show he's equally technical... but, after that, it was near perfection. I'm also quite shocked Angle got the win.

6-man Money in the Bank whatever was great, too. I'll be very surprised if Benjamin isn't World Champ at WM22. He may not be a great talker yet... but he was awesome in this match, and he just has that aura in the ring, like I got from Angle in 2000.

JBL-Cena was boring... and the ending was so bleh. Bad match, that was obviously hurried to finish. Probably the right decision, as Cena really had to win this... but now, I really wonder where Cena goes to next. Rematch with JBL? That's about the only option since Eddie didn't turn, and the draft doesn't seem to be coming any time soon. Also, this match compared to the World Title match made Smackdown look very weak.

HHH-Batista wasn't what it should have been. HHH should have not have had offense for most of the match. This should have been shorter, and Batista should have been made to look like a beast. The right guy went over, at least. But, I was hoping for Edge to take his title shot right after the match... since JR/King kinda teased it earlier. Because now, we get HHH/Batista 2 at Backlash... which I'm not pumped for, at all.

Trish-Hemme... Trish is a GREAT heel. I just loved watching her mannerisms throughout the match. Hemme sucked, but was to be expected. She shows signs that she could be decent if given some more training, however.

Eddy-Rey... was disappointing. Decent match... but, I expected more out of this.

Show-Akebono... I'm not understanding the point of this match, at all. Show has 1 main thing going for him. He's really big. So, why do we put him against some sumo wrestler and make him look SMALL. What is the point of a worked sumo match that Show LOSES?

Hogan's nostalgia bit was nice. He didn't have to pose for EIGHT MINUTES, but good to get him out there. Now, please keep him off TV until next year.

Austin bores me.

I think that's all.
 
I seriously want some JBL dollars..

My stepdad was flipping and happened to run across Vince, Steph and Trips on CNN Headline News. Nothing noteworthy, they were in the Raw arena. The chick doing the news said "So, Triple H, what happened last night? Sorry, I had to ask!" and then he jokingly said "What, I come on to headline news on CNN and now you're going to rub it in my face?!" and she said "I would never rub it in your face.. besides, it looks like someone beat me to it."

:rofl:

He then goes "What am I here for, comic relief!?"
 
I couldn't manage to get my hands on a JBL bill. However, a homeless man outside the arena had one that someone had given to him. Even after he was informed that it was fake, he wouldn't give it up. I didn't have any money to pay him for it, and he wouldn't even give it up for some sweet, sweet Newports. You'd figure that cigarettes or food money (had I had spare cash on me) would've been more important than a JBL fake $100 bill, but I guess not.

A friend of mine got one and says he'll make me a copy, but it's not the same.

EDIT: I just did a quick check of eBay, and there are 13 auctions for the bills. If I can manage to get one for $5 or a little more at most, I'll buy one just to have one. I should've gotten one for free, but there were greedy bastards who snagged up several bills a piece. They're probably the ones selling them on eBay now.

Well, I've still got my ticket and a free holographic WrestleMania coaster. I'll buy a shirt off ShopZone when I get $20 or whenever they are discounted, whichever comes first. I wanted to get a program at the show, but they were 20 friggin' dollars. I heard they were charging $25 the night before at the Hall of Fame ceremony.

My WrestleMania experience will be posted probably tomorrow.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']I couldn't manage to get my hands on a JBL bill. However, a homeless man outside the arena had one that someone had given to him. Even after he was informed that it was fake, he wouldn't give it up. I didn't have any money to pay him for it, and he wouldn't even give it up for some sweet, sweet Newports. You'd figure that cigarettes or food money (had I had spare cash on me) would've been more important than a JBL fake $100 bill, but I guess not.

A friend of mine got one and says he'll make me a copy, but it's not the same.

EDIT: I just did a quick check of eBay, and there are 13 auctions for the bills. If I can manage to get one for $5 or a little more at most, I'll buy one just to have one. I should've gotten one for free, but there were greedy bastards who snagged up several bills a piece. They're probably the ones selling them on eBay now.

Well, I've still got my ticket and a free holographic WrestleMania coaster. I'll buy a shirt off ShopZone when I get $20 or whenever they are discounted, whichever comes first. I wanted to get a program at the show, but they were 20 friggin' dollars. I heard they were charging $25 the night before at the Hall of Fame ceremony.

My WrestleMania experience will be posted probably tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

Those greedy bastards...
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Seriously, sometimes I don't understand why everyone hates Trips so much.[/QUOTE]

Who opened Raw? HHH.

Who closed Raw? HHH.

Who is the only true contender for the World Title, despite Edge winning a title shot? HHH.

Who is 100% definitely going to win "his" title back later this year, just so he can pass Flair for the most World titles won? HHH.

Batista didn't say a peep last night.

Same old stuff... and everyone knew it was coming.
 
Again, the question begs: what is Batista's character? Why should I care about him? What really made me want to cheer him on when he was in Evolution?

I've kind of become numb to HHH; I used to do the hillbilly thing (yell at the television), until my wife started laughing at me ("you're yelling at a fucking television"). In addition, HHH is as constant as the sun coming up (which gives him a kind of zen-like influence, does it not?); why be upset with that which you cannot change?

Two months until ECW: One Night Stand. I hope it lives up to the expectations (interesting to think that expectations are higher for this show than most of WWE's recent outings, WM21 notwithstanding).

myke.
 
The only reason most people are cheering Batista, was to kick HHH's ass. Batista looked like the only legitimate threat of doing that.

Despite winning at Mania, Batista really didn't do that.

I don't get why Batista said NOTHING last night.

I'm not upset with HHH, I'm apathetic towards him... if you've watched WWE for the last 5 years, you know how it works with him.

But, as it's been the last few years with me... I get all into WWE from Royal Rumble-Wrestlemania time... then, they just do the same old shit afterwards, and I stop watching for 8 months.

Last night's Raw was the best way to kill any interest I had for the upcoming year. And what are the next Main Events going to be? HHH/Batista II and JBL/Cena II. Why should I watch?
 
Perhaps you're onto something: it most certainly did *not* have that "post-wrestlemania raw" feel to it; no fresh feuds, no new developments. fucking reruns was what it was.

Trish still ruled the night; Edge and Benoit had an excellent match, but the storylines did nothing to generate any interest in what might happen in the next few weeks. They pretty much said "Backlash and Judgment Day are going to have title rematches, and some other shit we don't care about to fill up time."

myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Perhaps you're onto something: it most certainly did *not* have that "post-wrestlemania raw" feel to it; no fresh feuds, no new developments. fucking reruns was what it was.

Trish still ruled the night; Edge and Benoit had an excellent match, but the storylines did nothing to generate any interest in what might happen in the next few weeks. They pretty much said "Backlash and Judgment Day are going to have title rematches, and some other shit we don't care about to fill up time."

myke.[/QUOTE]

 
Decided to watch the first hour of Raw and noticed something odd.

For some reason they were cheering Trish when she was beating down Christy and Lita. I'm guessing that the fans finally realized that T&A alone don't sell matches.
 
Trish rules. She's just so damn good now.

Which is sad... because she's basically the entire women's division now.
 
The reason why HHH is where he is, isn't solely because he's sleeping with Vince's daughter, it's because he's the last member left of the top stars of the once dominant attitude era. If it had been Austin in his place, or the Rock, or even Foley, they'd probably be up at the top all the time too. As it stands, HBK and Flair are too old, and Kurt and Taker are on SD, so that pretty much has left HHH to run things until someone else steps up. You could make a case for Benoit, but Vince will be damned before he lets a guy who was made in WCW (moreso Japan IMO, but this is Vince we're talking about) run his ship, plus Benoit never grasped the whole "mic" thing. Then of course there's Jericho, and I can't really think of any good reason why Jericho hasn't been given a long title reign. Anyway that's my take on the whole HHH situation.
 
[quote name='Lina']Trish rules. She's just so damn good now.

Which is sad... because she's basically the entire women's division now.[/QUOTE]

With the division in such poor condition, I wish they would do something useful with the 3 excellent women they have left. I liked Victoria and Stevie Richards together. I doubt Stevie ever gets even the most minor of pushes, but if they did push him, Vicky could only help. Trish and Christian were awesome together, too. IMO, the two best heels on the roster. And Molly could be good with the Maven/Dean tag team, if they ever decide to get behind them.

And while I'm on the subject of getting behind a tag team, does WWE realize that they have to push more than one tag team at the same time? With the belts being as worthless as they are, just being the tag champs isn't enough anymore.
 
I wish they would've had a unification match at WM for the tag belts between the two shows and just put them on either Raw or SD. Maybe that way at least one show could've had a decent tag division.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']The reason why HHH is where he is, isn't solely because he's sleeping with Vince's daughter, it's because he's the last member left of the top stars of the once dominant attitude era. If it had been Austin in his place, or the Rock, or even Foley, they'd probably be up at the top all the time too. As it stands, HBK and Flair are too old, and Kurt and Taker are on SD, so that pretty much has left HHH to run things until someone else steps up. You could make a case for Benoit, but Vince will be damned before he lets a guy who was made in WCW (moreso Japan IMO, but this is Vince we're talking about) run his ship, plus Benoit never grasped the whole "mic" thing. Then of course there's Jericho, and I can't really think of any good reason why Jericho hasn't been given a long title reign. Anyway that's my take on the whole HHH situation.[/QUOTE]

But, all of that is because he's sleeping with Vince's daughter...

The downhill trend started in 2000 with the Kurt/Steph/HHH love triangle... where suddenly Steph went with HHH with no explanation... and Kurt looked like a huge chump at the end.

HHH was made to look much stronger than everyone else he's feuded with... thus, nobody believably can beat him. That's why they have to thrust Orton and Batista into the main event before they're ready. And the only reason they are given a chance is so HHH can get Flair's record.

There was hope with Benoit... but not really, his whole title run was put aside for HHH/HBK Rematch #5000... and HHH just got his title back eventually, anyway.

Same thing is happening with Batista... it's all about HHH getting "his" belt back.

And HHH can get away with it... because he's gonna let Batista win at WM, and almost certainly at Backlash. But, at the end of the year... HHH will get his title back, and Batista will be stuffed back in the midcard. And that's all that matters.
 
[quote name='AdamInPlaidum']With the division in such poor condition, I wish they would do something useful with the 3 excellent women they have left. I liked Victoria and Stevie Richards together. I doubt Stevie ever gets even the most minor of pushes, but if they did push him, Vicky could only help. Trish and Christian were awesome together, too. IMO, the two best heels on the roster. And Molly could be good with the Maven/Dean tag team, if they ever decide to get behind them.

And while I'm on the subject of getting behind a tag team, does WWE realize that they have to push more than one tag team at the same time? With the belts being as worthless as they are, just being the tag champs isn't enough anymore.[/QUOTE]

Victoria was money as the crazy heel... but they ruined her with the horrid dancing gimmick. Vicky has to be a face against Trish... and it's probably not going to work.

Molly is dead, too. They shaved her head for no reason... and basically killed her character after that. The division is all about T&A, and they probably see her as being too "fat" and unattractive... which is ridiculous.

The women's division is never going to be taken seriously again... so, whatever.

As for why there's no tag teams... I haven't the slightest idea. WWE has all the talent in the world now, so there's no excuse. It's not like people stopped liking tag wrestling, either. I don't get that at all.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']I couldn't manage to get my hands on a JBL bill. However, a homeless man outside the arena had one that someone had given to him. Even after he was informed that it was fake, he wouldn't give it up. I didn't have any money to pay him for it, and he wouldn't even give it up for some sweet, sweet Newports. You'd figure that cigarettes or food money (had I had spare cash on me) would've been more important than a JBL fake $100 bill, but I guess not.

A friend of mine got one and says he'll make me a copy, but it's not the same.

EDIT: I just did a quick check of eBay, and there are 13 auctions for the bills. If I can manage to get one for $5 or a little more at most, I'll buy one just to have one. I should've gotten one for free, but there were greedy bastards who snagged up several bills a piece. They're probably the ones selling them on eBay now.

Well, I've still got my ticket and a free holographic WrestleMania coaster. I'll buy a shirt off ShopZone when I get $20 or whenever they are discounted, whichever comes first. I wanted to get a program at the show, but they were 20 friggin' dollars. I heard they were charging $25 the night before at the Hall of Fame ceremony.

My WrestleMania experience will be posted probably tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

I got one. Bow down.

I was at Wrestlemania 21 and RAW this past week. I got tons of pictures and a video of Hogan when he came out at Wrestlemania 21. When and If I get the time, I'll upload the pictures and post them as long as both of my experiences.
 
[quote name='Lina']Victoria was money as the crazy heel... but they ruined her with the horrid dancing gimmick. Vicky has to be a face against Trish... and it's probably not going to work.

Molly is dead, too. They shaved her head for no reason... and basically killed her character after that. The division is all about T&A, and they probably see her as being too "fat" and unattractive... which is ridiculous.

The women's division is never going to be taken seriously again... so, whatever.

As for why there's no tag teams... I haven't the slightest idea. WWE has all the talent in the world now, so there's no excuse. It's not like people stopped liking tag wrestling, either. I don't get that at all.[/QUOTE]

Forget the women fighting eachother. It'll be nice once in awhile, but as it is now, the division is completely dead. I'm talking about using 3 talented women in a way that they will be most useful under current conditions - as managers.
 
Bobby Heenan recently argued that women can't work as well as being managers as men, because of what can't (or, more appropriately, shouldn't) be done with women. They won't get a severe beatdown from a good guy; if they're too attractive, their presence near a ring can detract from a match; you can't put a woman in a cage above the ring during a match, with the stipulation that a good guy gets 5 minutes in the ring with them if they win; etc. I don't agree with all of that, but I can see the larger point (that it's okay to beat the shit out of male managers, but not female managers). Some were still excellent (Sherri and Luna, IMO). Others are solely cheesecake and prove some of Heenan's points (Miss Jackie, Shaniqua, Stacy Kiebler, Torrie Wilson).

I want to know what the hell they were thinking when they gave Victoria that awful booty music. I know the answer ("We'll save $500 in royalties this year if we give Victoria shitty music"), but that cost them more money b/c Vic hasn't done a fucking thing since then. The Widow's Peak is an excellent looking finisher (you believe that the match is over), and her wrestling was much better than the average woman. Molly is a fantastic grappler (yay for Dean Malenko!), but because she doesn't exhibit what is known as heroin chic, she'll never make it. Jazz was, *ahem* "bowling shoe ugly," as JR would like to say. Despite that, she was the single best female wrestler I've seen in fucking years (in addition to being far better than the average Heat roster, and marginally better than a good portion of Raw regulars). Trish Stratus' heel used to damn near touch the back of her head when Jazz would lay in the STF; she was a fucking bad-ass. I hope Lita has seven more injuries as soon as she heals, so McMac & Co. realize that being attractice is not sufficient.

I do, however, love that face-first bump her dumb ass took when she won the women's belt in December. I've not popped like that since then.

Remember...Viscera gets a paycheck, and Rodney Mack isn't doing squat.

myke.
...maybe Dusty Rhodes can do something stupid, like bring him in as Monty Brown's cousin. I'll post TNA spoilers tomorrow (they are taping today, methinks).
 
[quote name='Lina']But, all of that is because he's sleeping with Vince's daughter...

[/QUOTE]

He was getting pushed as the leader of DX while he was sleeping with Chyna :puke:

My question to everyone who's so anti-HHH, who would you have at the top? Who else is capable of being the head of the promotion right now? Orton proved he wasn't ready, Benoit isn't the guy I want doing guest appearances on various tv shows and so forth, and Batista will prove that he can't do it either. Vince was set for years to come with The Rock, and even Lesnar looked good for awhile, but shit happened, and now we're stuck with HHH until the next "star" materializes, and from the looks of it he's not on the roster yet. Although, with time Orton could be, maybe. I suppose if the rosters were re-united things could get better. Kurt could always help the situation along. I'm pretty sure there's a reason he and HHH are on separate shows.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Bobby Heenan recently argued that women can't work as well as being managers as men, because of what can't (or, more appropriately, shouldn't) be done with women. They won't get a severe beatdown from a good guy; if they're too attractive, their presence near a ring can detract from a match; you can't put a woman in a cage above the ring during a match, with the stipulation that a good guy gets 5 minutes in the ring with them if they win; etc. I don't agree with all of that, but I can see the larger point (that it's okay to beat the shit out of male managers, but not female managers). Some were still excellent (Sherri and Luna, IMO). Others are solely cheesecake and prove some of Heenan's points (Miss Jackie, Shaniqua, Stacy Kiebler, Torrie Wilson).

I want to know what the hell they were thinking when they gave Victoria that awful booty music. I know the answer ("We'll save $500 in royalties this year if we give Victoria shitty music"), but that cost them more money b/c Vic hasn't done a fucking thing since then. The Widow's Peak is an excellent looking finisher (you believe that the match is over), and her wrestling was much better than the average woman. Molly is a fantastic grappler (yay for Dean Malenko!), but because she doesn't exhibit what is known as heroin chic, she'll never make it. Jazz was, *ahem* "bowling shoe ugly," as JR would like to say. Despite that, she was the single best female wrestler I've seen in fucking years (in addition to being far better than the average Heat roster, and marginally better than a good portion of Raw regulars). Trish Stratus' heel used to damn near touch the back of her head when Jazz would lay in the STF; she was a fucking bad-ass. I hope Lita has seven more injuries as soon as she heals, so McMac & Co. realize that being attractice is not sufficient.

I do, however, love that face-first bump her dumb ass took when she won the women's belt in December. I've not popped like that since then.

Remember...Viscera gets a paycheck, and Rodney Mack isn't doing squat.

myke.
...maybe Dusty Rhodes can do something stupid, like bring him in as Monty Brown's cousin. I'll post TNA spoilers tomorrow (they are taping today, methinks).[/QUOTE]

Well, Trish has shown on more than one occassion that she can take beatings from guys (Bubba, Kane). However, I agree with Heenan that there should be more male managers. What have we got right now, Daivari? I don't know much about the guy, but damn if his yelling isn't annoying. To me, announcer or manager would be a dream job. How much fun would it be to manage Snitsky?!
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']He was getting pushed as the leader of DX while he was sleeping with Chyna :puke:

My question to everyone who's so anti-HHH, who would you have at the top? Who else is capable of being the head of the promotion right now? Orton proved he wasn't ready, Benoit isn't the guy I want doing guest appearances on various tv shows and so forth, and Batista will prove that he can't do it either. Vince was set for years to come with The Rock, and even Lesnar looked good for awhile, but shit happened, and now we're stuck with HHH until the next "star" materializes, and from the looks of it he's not on the roster yet. Although, with time Orton could be, maybe. I suppose if the rosters were re-united things could get better. Kurt could always help the situation along. I'm pretty sure there's a reason he and HHH are on separate shows.[/QUOTE]

Meh, you have a point. However, the angles he does is better known as the angle he does. This shit's reruns, I tell you.

I can't point anyone out, because I can't view anyone as anything but midcard at best anymore. The first thing I'd do is do away with the "WWE ring style," so I can enjoy watching Tajiri wrestle; so I can watch a three-way dance with more than two men wrestling at a time; so I don't have to watch a main event with the same Hulk Hogan formula that's existed for 20 years now. I'd let the wrestlers wrestle, and fire anyone with a background in bodybuilding (unless they can prove themselves in a match).

I'd give several people more prominent ring time: Jericho, Rhyno, and Rob Conway, to name a few (Conway's gold, I tell you). I'd bring in Eugene as a heel (newly shorn of his idiot gimmick), and let them wrestle. Thinking of the kind of matches Rhyno had in ECW, there is no good reason whatsoever that he's done nothing with his WWE career; he should be where Batista is.

Booker T should be in a bigger feud than with Heidenreich; RVD, when healthy, should be in the title picture (where he's never been before); put Luther Reigns in there, too - while he's not the most amazing wrestler, he's believable, and an amazing talker.

There are 7 guys; none of them are even believable of being in HHH's league at this point. Why is that the case? Isn't the purpose of watching a heel champ in wrestling to see when and how they finally lose the title? That is conceptually flawed when there is nobody portrayed as competent enough to beat you.

Wrestlemania XIX. I'll put that up as my evidence.

myke.
...why not give Kane a title run? He only had the one (although, given Katie Vick, it may be too early to put him back in the ring with HHH).
 
That's one thing I never understood, why didn't Kane ever get a legit-title run? He's won the title twice, and held it for less than 24 hours combined. The second title victory was the one he and Taker simultaneously got over Austin, and then Vince came out with the belt, I believe it led to the Survivor Series "Highway to Hell" tournament for the title. Anyway, I agree with you (as usual) Myke. It's getting to a point in which I find myself asking, why am I even watching anymore? Sometimes something remotely interesting will occur and keep me coming back, or maybe I'm just hoping that something fun will happen and it'll all be worth watching again. Maybe I'm too optimistic.

As for Rhyno, Booker T and RVD, those are three of the most tragic careers in the WWE, all enjoying great success in WCW or ECW, and yet Vince won't push any of them ever. Booker T could've made a great champion, much better than Batista. Rhyno, for God's sake... do something with him, the guy showed how talented he was in ECW.

I guess I'm just preaching to the choir though now, so I shall stop.
 
Every now and then, the WWE throws you enough of a bone so you keep watching. Edge and Benoit from Monday was one of those. The three-way match was entertaining, for a WWE-style three-way. Angle/HBK was supposed to be excellent, as was the ladder match. They know they can put on better wrestling matches; instead, they do it every now and then to keep dolts like us watching, so we don't "miss" anything.

I wonder how Psychosis and Super Crazy are going to feel once they realize that they have to adjust to "WWE style." fucking hell, look at how they treated the much-respected Ultimo Dragon.

myke.
 
[quote name='Scorch']If it wasn't how you had predicted, you would've complained, since you're right, you complain. What did YOU want to happen? It was a pretty solid PPV, Hogan and Austin's appearance were great.. while i'll agree it didn't have that amazing factor, it was still great. The entrance was great, too.. hope it's in WM21 on XBox. I love.. LOVE how they had that screen that had the marquee off to the side.[/QUOTE]

I haven't checked back into this topic until now, but I wanted to say that you were wrong about this.

I'm not that guy that bitches to no end about how wrestling sucks but then tune in every week like a good little puppet. I do feel I have an above average knowledge of the sport and I do feel it's gotten predictible. I would have LOVED to be surprised by anything at WM. Anything. I didn't want to be right about the whole event, but it was pretty easy to predict.

Want to shake things up? Have the writers watch some old tape...and then don't do that. Not because it sucked, but because you just did that. Don't do it again.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']WWE signed Super Crazy and Psychosis?[/QUOTE]

Well, technically, no...SC has some visa issues to sort out. After that, yes.

Frankie Kazarians worked his first SD dark match last night, losing to Mark Jindrak.

myke.
...kazarian, by keeping Jindrak off all WWE tv this week, is my CAG wrestler of the week. Alright, Trish really is, but this made it a close vote.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']That's one thing I never understood, why didn't Kane ever get a legit-title run? He's won the title twice, and held it for less than 24 hours combined. The second title victory was the one he and Taker simultaneously got over Austin, and then Vince came out with the belt, I believe it led to the Survivor Series "Highway to Hell" tournament for the title. Anyway, I agree with you (as usual) Myke. It's getting to a point in which I find myself asking, why am I even watching anymore? Sometimes something remotely interesting will occur and keep me coming back, or maybe I'm just hoping that something fun will happen and it'll all be worth watching again. Maybe I'm too optimistic.

As for Rhyno, Booker T and RVD, those are three of the most tragic careers in the WWE, all enjoying great success in WCW or ECW, and yet Vince won't push any of them ever. Booker T could've made a great champion, much better than Batista. Rhyno, for God's sake... do something with him, the guy showed how talented he was in ECW.

I guess I'm just preaching to the choir though now, so I shall stop.[/QUOTE]

I haven't watched WWE for quite some time, but from where I left off, I think that the WWE have pretty much ruined Rhyno, Booker T and RVD's careers. I think it is almost too late, if not too late, to save them as main eventers / World Title holders. I think they need to focus on Kane and (of course) Jericho before they do the same to those two. Like ZL said (I think), there is no reason why Jericho has not received a long term run. HHH's has been for like five years straight (more or less), why can't Jericho have a year or so? He is one of the best, if not the best the WWE has. And he is the most dynamic wrestler ever (especially on the mic). He just has to decide what he wants and he either gets the worst heel heat or the greatest face love, ever. The only one who comes close to that is The Rock...


And they have continuously tried to drive Kane's career into the ground. It's just a cycle: Build him up to be an impossibly insurmountable monster, have him job clean to someone to put them over, go back to step one... I mean, come on, even after doing this so many times, he is still believable! That must say something for him.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']He was getting pushed as the leader of DX while he was sleeping with Chyna :puke:

My question to everyone who's so anti-HHH, who would you have at the top? Who else is capable of being the head of the promotion right now? Orton proved he wasn't ready, Benoit isn't the guy I want doing guest appearances on various tv shows and so forth, and Batista will prove that he can't do it either. Vince was set for years to come with The Rock, and even Lesnar looked good for awhile, but shit happened, and now we're stuck with HHH until the next "star" materializes, and from the looks of it he's not on the roster yet. Although, with time Orton could be, maybe. I suppose if the rosters were re-united things could get better. Kurt could always help the situation along. I'm pretty sure there's a reason he and HHH are on separate shows.[/QUOTE]

HHH's reign of dominance really didn't start until the Foley feud in 2000.

Who can be the guy on top?

There doesn't need to be one guy. With the depth of WWE, there should not be one wrestler who is the center of attention every single week. Raw has huge depth. Any of the 6 guys in the Money in the Bank could be main eventing.

Rock was never the "main guy". Rock is infinitely a bigger star than HHH... and he jobbed to a bunch of people, AND made them look stronger on occasion.
 
That's one thing I never understood, why didn't Kane ever get a legit-title run?
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I think it would be nice if Kane finally got a shot at it...

But, the problem is that he'll always be in Taker's shadow.

He'll always be the "surprise" opponent when the commissioner wants someone he hates to get punished. And he's always written up for such retarded angles.
 
[quote name='Lina']I think it would be nice if Kane finally got a shot at it...

But, the problem is that he'll always be in Taker's shadow.

He'll always be the "surprise" opponent when the commissioner wants someone he hates to get punished. And he's always written up for such retarded angles.[/QUOTE]

He deserved a lot more than one fucking day. That was bullcrap.

And I agree, he gets put in bullshit angles. Katie Vick, Matt/Lita. 2 prime examples of WWE stupidity.
 
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.asp?Feed=AP&Date=20050404&ID=4345101&Symbol=US:WWE
Here's a link to the details on the WWE/NBC Universal deal, which it looks like Velocity & WWE Experience will be canned when they move, since it only mentions that Heat will move along with Raw.

They also mention that they felt WWE was better when on USA, which in this quote basically says it.
"Somehow it never worked on Spike. It didn't have the pizazz it had on USA Network. Maybe going home will give RAW and WWE more of that pizazz."
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[quote name='MorbidAngel4Life']He deserved a lot more than one fucking day. That was bullcrap.

And I agree, he gets put in bullshit angles. Katie Vick, Matt/Lita. 2 prime examples of WWE stupidity.[/QUOTE]

Katie Vick was bad.

Matt/Lita was bad.

But.

GENE MOTHERfuckING GODDAMN SNITSKY!

myke.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Katie Vick was bad.

Matt/Lita was bad.

But.

GENE MOTHERfuckING GODDAMN SNITSKY!

myke.[/QUOTE]

That's a little harsh. After all, it ISN'T HIS FAULT!
 
[quote name='Saucy Jack']I just wanted to share this animation. Found it somewhere else. Paul London, who actually knows how to correctly do a shooting star press:

PaulLondonFigure.gif
[/QUOTE]

..thanks for the action figure animation?
 
[quote name='guyver2077']even snitzky has faded a bit...which sucks because he was doing pretty well.....

where the hell is chris masters!!!![/QUOTE]

In a perfect world, back in the bathroom stall they found him in.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Katie Vick was bad.

Matt/Lita was bad.

But.

GENE MOTHERfuckING GODDAMN SNITSKY!

myke.[/QUOTE]

IT WASN'T HIS FAULT!
 
[quote name='SevereTireDamage']I'm more shocked that a Paul London action figure even exists![/QUOTE]

Custom figure.

You know what angle should be brought back to life? Ric Flair being 50% owner of the WWE (the consortium to Steph and Shane).. then Bischoff gets wind of that and a power struggle begins or something.. I dunno, that angle just kinda fell off by the wayside after the nWo invasion angle was done.. I only remember this because I found the WWE Desire video on my Hard drive tonight.. nice 60mb file, clear quality, even has Flair's mic work before they played it.. could upload to YSI if demand is high, though it'll only be once.. meaning if someone decides to be a dick and delete it, then I won't up it again..
 
Random newsbits..

-Rhyno's apparently in hot water with WWE. At the WM21 afterparty, at the Universal Sheraton(sp?) hotel, he destroyed a large flowerpot after an argument with his wife. He was escorted to his room by WWE management and flew home the next day. He was not used for Raw.

-WWE is working on a DVD that shows the best matches of the Road Warriors, Hawk and Animal.

-The WM21 DVD will be a 3 disc'er that contains the PPV, Hall of Fame footage, and more.. also rumored is a WMXX documentary that'll be somewhere in there.

-Carmen Electra (If you don't know of her, you must be gay), Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins/Zwan), Lou E. Dangerously (ECW), and Marg Helenberger (CSI) were all at WM21.

-Goldberg will be hosting a new TV show this June that will be on The Discovery Channel, call Automaniacs.

AUTOMANIAC - Premieres Wednesday, June 1 at 10:00 p.m. ET/PT - Buckle your seat belts-it's going to be a wild ride. Hosted by pro wrestling and feature film star Bill Goldberg, AUTOMANIAC puts you in the driver's seat of the coolest, hottest, fastest and most unusual vehicles ever to hit the road. Each episode of AUTOMANIAC focuses on an unusual theme, such as vehicles driven by gangsters, police departments, hot rodders or the super rich. Incorporating a mix of history, technology, the culture and hands-on participation from Goldberg himself, AUTOMANIAC takes viewers into the garage, under the hood and out on the road to show how these amazing cars work and what makes them the hottest wheels of any era.
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WWE Divas share sex talk over at stuffmagazine.com, click "Powder Room" under the "Sex" section. For the record, AMY is Amy Weber, not Amy Dumas (Lita), so when Amy starts talking about her ex calling her mama, please don't think of Matt Hardy calling Lita "Mama". I'm not sure who Katie, Candice, or Tanea are. They may be from SmackDown!, but I don't watch it.

LAURA: Wrestlers tend to be screamers in the ring. Do you like your men to be equally as loud in the sack?
TORRIE: As long as you’re not quiet, anything goes for me. I don’t care—if you’re loud, that’s fine.
STACY: If you’re quiet, it’s going to be a one-night stand, for sure. I want guys to talk. Be verbal and get into it, but screaming and yelling and taking it to the next level is when it gets a little weird.
TRISH: And it almost seems fake. Like, is there a hidden camera somewhere?
AMY: My ex was like that, and I didn’t like it. He called me Mama, and it freaked me out. I had to put my hand over his mouth. Positive feedback is nice, but “Give it to me, Mama”? That’s just bizarre.

LAURA: What other things should not come out of his mouth during sex? Besides drool, of course.
TRISH: “You’re my dirty bitch whore.” Or another girl’s name.
TORRIE: Or another guy’s name! Or something like, “Let me see that fat ass.”

LAURA: Unless he’s saying phat ass. Speaking of which, how do you feel about a partner spanking yours?
STACY: I like it. I mean, I don’t do it all the time, but it’s not something I’m opposed to.
TORRIE: I like it, too. But I’m a big baby, so if it’s too hard, I’m like, "Ouch! OK, no more."
AMY: Yeah, it should be like swatting a fly—not killing a beast.
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When you click "Click here for full transcript", it doesn't link to a WWE interview, so.. that seems to be all at this point.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Random newsbits..

-Rhyno's apparently in hot water with WWE. At the WM21 afterparty, at the Universal Sheraton(sp?) hotel, he destroyed a large flowerpot after an argument with his wife. He was escorted to his room by WWE management and flew home the next day. He was not used for Raw.

-WWE is working on a DVD that shows the best matches of the Road Warriors, Hawk and Animal.

-The WM21 DVD will be a 3 disc'er that contains the PPV, Hall of Fame footage, and more.. also rumored is a WMXX documentary that'll be somewhere in there.

-Carmen Electra (If you don't know of her, you must be gay), Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins/Zwan), Lou E. Dangerously (ECW), and Marg Helenberger (CSI) were all at WM21.

-Goldberg will be hosting a new TV show this June that will be on The Discovery Channel, call Automaniacs.



WWE Divas share sex talk over at stuffmagazine.com, click "Powder Room" under the "Sex" section. For the record, AMY is Amy Weber, not Amy Dumas (Lita), so when Amy starts talking about her ex calling her mama, please don't think of Matt Hardy calling Lita "Mama". I'm not sure who Katie, Candice, or Tanea are. They may be from SmackDown!, but I don't watch it.



When you click "Click here for full transcript", it doesn't link to a WWE interview, so.. that seems to be all at this point.[/QUOTE]

Trust me, the WWE Divas interview, that's not all. It's a lot longer than that.

Trish doesnt like being caled a "Dirty Bitch Whore." Which is hilarious to hear from here.
 
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