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I made out like a bandit:

Super Gunworld 2
Risk of Rain (PS4/Vita)
The Silver Case
Mitsurugi
Night Trap
Breach & Clear
Plague Road (PS4/Vita)
Furi
NeuroVoider
The Bunker
Stealth Inc. (PS4/Vita)
Dariusburst
Asdivine Hearts (PS4/Vita)
Nova 111 (PS4/Vita)
Drive! Drive! Drive!
Rive
Wonder Boy CE


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You realize bandits are supposed to be the the ones doing the stealing, right?

 
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Conflicted on these two. These are two of my favorite vita games.

I have played them both and finished them each once.

I'm not sure I can justify buying these.

 
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Conflicted on these two. These are two of my favorite vita games.
I have played them both and finished them each once.
I'm not sure I can justify buying these.
Yeah kind of hard to get excited over when you can buy the collection which contains both on PS4/Switch for like $10 used or $20 new. Might be OK if you really want them for Vita though.

On a more important note... it’s about time to decide if the special cover, frisbee, and soundtrack are worth an extra $35 this Friday when Windjammers goes on sale...
 
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Yeah kind of hard to get excited over when you can buy the collection which contains both on PS4/Switch for like $10 used or $20 new. Might be OK if you really want them for Vita though.

On a more important note... it’s about time to decide if the special cover, frisbee, and soundtrack are worth an extra $35 this Friday when Windjammers goes on sale...
Heck no, LRG ce are lack luster.
 
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/935271652652351490

Conflicted on these two. These are two of my favorite vita games.

I have played them both and finished them each once.

I'm not sure I can justify buying these.
The combo of both games is $15 on PS4, physical version. I mean I got it free on PS+ so...

 
Annoyed with windjammers. I like having all variants, so that's two CEs and two standards. That will be a spendy assed Friday. I'd still love to just see reversible covers, as that would make these cover variants much more affordable for those of us that like to have them. Then again, not like it won't all sell out anyway, so I guess this is working fine.

On a positive note, though, I'd love to see more SNK releases.

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Kind of shocked they are allowing people to buy two of each Windjammers CE given the relatively low quantities.
This is probably a direct result of how poorly the last CEs sold for them (poorly meaning didn't sell out in under 30 minutes).

 
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Why such a low print on Claire? Is it just not popular? It shows only 2500 being made but even games like absolute drift were 4000. 2064 had over 6000 made so Claire seems like a really low printing.
 
Not sure if this is the correct thread but I wanted to finally play Firewatch and The Disappearance of Ethan Carter on PS4. Does anyone know if the PS store will have any deals on these? Or are there any cheaper options? Digital or physical doesn't matter.

 
Why such a low print on Claire? Is it just not popular? It shows only 2500 being made but even games like absolute drift were 4000. 2064 had over 6000 made so Claire seems like a really low printing.
The developer determines the print run with some input from LRG.

 
Not sure if this is the correct thread but I wanted to finally play Firewatch and The Disappearance of Ethan Carter on PS4. Does anyone know if the PS store will have any deals on these? Or are there any cheaper options? Digital or physical doesn't matter.
Digital is always cheaper than LRG physical. PSPrices shows price history (there's a chart at the bottom of each game page): https://psprices.com/

 
Well my Ys Origin got to my local post office after almost a month, and then it was sent to another state...  UPS+USPS = the dream team.

 
Well my Ys Origin got to my local post office after almost a month, and then it was sent to another state... UPS+USPS = the dream team.
This time of year is no holds barred when it comes to shipping/receiving. LOL

I had a package I mailed during the holidays last year that went missing, and it was the first within the US to just disappear out of tens of thousands of packages over the years. I refunded my buyer, and was like one package missing out of so many was pretty good. But then a week or two in to January, it finally arrived to the buyer. So it was about 6-8 weeks of just going around the country, or sitting in a PO on the floor someplace, who the hell knows.

My UPS/FedEX guys are normally pretty good, but USPS in general are all over the map most of the time, and the holidays is a whole different level of complete shit. All you can do is keep your fingers crossed, and hope for the best. LOL I could tell many more stories like this one, but the good news is they all arrive here or there eventually, so that's the good news. The bad news is how and when they finally arrive, as truth is way stranger than fiction when dealing with USPS(especially during the holidays).

 
Looks like standard editions are going for same or even higher price than CE's. I'm not really surprised.

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Looks like standard editions are going for same or even higher price than CE's. I'm not really surprised.
Well, that one CE was actually a preorder, as are all the ones listed, as no one has them in hand yet. You can't really gauge interest in a product until they are actually out in the wild, and represented as such. Also, they way he had it listed, it shows as used, due to the "good" rating in the condition. No one is paying top dollar for a "good" item, unless it's super rare.

So while I personally didn't care for the contents of the CE, having one poorly listed representation is far from showing the current market value. As one before that sold for $100.

 
The La-Mulana/Nex Machina CE have the same basic components as Wonder Boy and were the same price, yet while people were praising Wonder Boy, they seemed to mostly dislike these (even though we're doing premium embossing on both and using foil stock for La-Mulana). It's so hard to gauge where demand/opinion will be on these things when two virtually identical products can get such wildly different responses. We're just planning to play it safe on future CEs in terms of run size and I'm pretty sure that's going to lead to some clusterfuck scenarios but there just isn't much we can do when desirability is so impossible to gauge.

 
The La-Mulana/Nex Machina CE have the same basic components as Wonder Boy and were the same price, yet while people were praising Wonder Boy, they seemed to mostly dislike these (even though we're doing premium embossing on both and using foil stock for La-Mulana). It's so hard to gauge where demand/opinion will be on these things when two virtually identical products can get such wildly different responses. We're just planning to play it safe on future CEs in terms of run size and I'm pretty sure that's going to lead to some clusterfuck scenarios but there just isn't much we can do when desirability is so impossible to gauge.
I just want the base game and in rare cases the ce, like Nex Machina.
 
The La-Mulana/Nex Machina CE have the same basic components as Wonder Boy and were the same price, yet while people were praising Wonder Boy, they seemed to mostly dislike these (even though we're doing premium embossing on both and using foil stock for La-Mulana). It's so hard to gauge where demand/opinion will be on these things when two virtually identical products can get such wildly different responses. We're just planning to play it safe on future CEs in terms of run size and I'm pretty sure that's going to lead to some clusterfuck scenarios but there just isn't much we can do when desirability is so impossible to gauge.
It could be the nature of the game itself. Wonder Boy is a well know franchise with nostalgia factor which used to be a big property for a major publisher/developer (SEGA, obviously). La-Mulana and Nex Machina are newer games from small devs, neither of which are very well known nor of which gamers have much attachment too.

I'm not telling you anything you probably don't already know, I'm just saying those could be factors. They were for me, personally. I also think people felt burned on the Ys Origin CE. I completely understand where LRG is coming from as far as price, etc. but I think it said to a lot of people that maybe they don't need the CE for games like they thought they did.

And I know you've brought up the quality of the outer boxes before, but I don't think most people care, even collectors. I have a few select big boxes on display (including Ys Origin, Wonder Boy and Dariusburst, but also Sturmwind for Dreamcast, Axiom Verge for Vita and a couple Wii games like The Last Story CE), but overall I put them in a separate box in storage because they take up a lot of space to display and I'd rather have other things I'd rather display, like figures, on shelves.

In my opinion, I don't think most people think the CEs are worth the money for a folded poster (which most have expressed they'd rather purchase separately if shipped in a tube) and maybe a soundtrack. I also hope I don't come off as aggressive, because that's not my intent.

 
And I know you've brought up the quality of the outer boxes before, but I don't think most people care, even collectors. I have a few select big boxes on display (including Ys Origin, Wonder Boy and Dariusburst, but also Sturmwind for Dreamcast, Axiom Verge for Vita and a couple Wii games like The Last Story CE), but overall I put them in a separate box in storage because they take up a lot of space to display and I'd rather have other things I'd rather display, like figures, on shelves.

In my opinion, I don't think most people think the CEs are worth the money for a folded poster (which most have expressed they'd rather purchase separately if shipped in a tube) and maybe a soundtrack. I also hope I don't come off as aggressive, because that's not my intent.
I can honestly say, I've been collecting stuff for probably as long as I've been playing, and I have never once cared about what the outer box looked like, or how well it was made. Now don't get me wrong, I always enjoyed Working Designs extra touches they put in to their Saturn game manuals. As that's really only one of the few areas where I can remember some level of flash to the printing that was used. I also like great art work, so having a bigger version of some good work is great, but it's still on a box, which just isn't something I want to display.

These "big" box CE are just a waste for me, for the reasons stated. I can't really display them, as the size is to large, so the contents are often removed(or just the game), and everything else is put in storage someplace. Very rarely if ever, are console games put in those big boxes, as they ship to retail like crap, and really just don't fit anyone's collections, unless they are all PC stuff.

The only thing included that really needs this bigger box is the poster, and no real collector is going to put much thought in to a "creased" anything. Nice or not, if a box arrives with a crease, and people are up in arms about it(trying to return or replace it), why would they want to spend money for an item that has creases on purpose? That's makes no sense from any collecting stand point.

Outside of these LRG CE, NISA is the only other one who uses bigger boxes regularly, and even for those, they are only bigger to house an item that needs it. If all they include is a OST and art book, they can be small as well. Or if large, they have included some full size HC art books as well, and the boxes always feel "full" with no space wasted.

It's funny, as I have always bought SE/CE's for the Vita, and the one company that finally broke me from getting every release, is the one that has the most "limited" titles. As it's been stated, I just don't see much value in spending $60+ on these, as the few extra items could really be GS preorder freebies(and even they give you rolled posters when offered). I just see these LRG CE as having "major" things included, that no one really values. And the "minor" things people do value, are being overlooked and not really cared about. Once this is reversed, there will be more interest.

 
To be more clear, what I'm getting at with Wonder Boy is not so much why it was more in-demand but why people thought the $64.99 price was fine on that but not La-Mulana or Nex Machina when the contents are pretty much the same (except La-Mulana has an extra soundtrack CD and Nex Machina has art prints instead of cards).

I feel like - and I don't think many would admit this - people feel like Wonder Boy was a good value because the secondary market price rose and justified the original $64.99 price tag. I do actually remember some gripes about the price ahead of the sale, but those all shifted when it sold out quickly.

 
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People were fine with Wonder Boy for a couple reasons.  1. they hadn't received it yet.  It was the first CE so it had extra appeal.  Remorse came after ppl realized contents.    Was fine once, but not continually.

2. retro nostalgia.  really nice 8bit cover art on this one. made it a desirable package

3. it was an in-demand game.  this was a bigger and better release than most. 

If you want to play it safe just do CEs (or higher runs) for the best games you release.   People will buy the CE if the game is great, pretty much regardless of its contents.  Nex Machina, La Mulana, and Lawbreakers have little to no brand name recognition.  It seems like you're putting out CEs for little-known lesser games and sounding surprised that there isn't much demand for them.  Just make fewer copies next time.  It's cool. 

 
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To be more clear, what I'm getting at with Wonder Boy is not so much why it was more in-demand but why people thought the $64.99 price was fine on that but not La-Mulana or Nex Machina when the contents are pretty much the same (except La-Mulana has an extra soundtrack CD and Nex Machina has art prints instead of cards).

I feel like - and I don't think many would admit this - people feel like Wonder Boy was a good value because the secondary market price rose and justified the original $64.99 price tag. I do actually remember some gripes about the price ahead of the sale, but those all shifted when it sold out quickly.
To build on the earlier points made, I think it has less to do with the content of the boxes being similar and more to do with the perception that Wonder Boy is a revered brand worthy of a CE and La-Mulana and Nex Machina are far more niche properties. It also probably hurts that you released two CEs in the same week. I mean as much as I love what you are doing in general, I don't think that most of us were clamoring for more CEs and it feels like for a new property like Nex Machina and a very niche title like La-Mulana, standard copies of both would have satisfied the vast majority of us.

 
Is Rainbow Skies still going to be a LRG release?  Pre order went up with Play Asia, but I would rather buy the LRG version.  Also what happened with Ghost Blade HD?  It is still listed as upcoming, but I have heard nothing about the release since the Play Asia double dip.

Doomstink would it be a fair question to ask how many Vita games you are expecting to release in the next several months?  Happy to Steamworld Dig and Heist.  Dig was awesome and would be fun to play again.  Have not played Heist, but it is an easy purchase.

 
No Rainbow Skies from us on PS4/Vita - there was some discussion at one point of a really small run to sate NA collectors, but that probably wouldn't be worth the ESRB hassle.
 
People were fine with Wonder Boy for a couple reasons. 1. they hadn't received it yet. It was the first CE so it had extra appeal. Remorse came after ppl realized contents. Was fine once, but not continually.
People have cited Wonder Boy and Night Trap as being good values post-receipt. They have them in-hand and think they're perfect. I haven't heard a single person express remorse over the Wonder Boy or Night Trap CE. Again, I think the fact they almost instantly gained value on the secondary market played a lot into people's perception of them. Wonder Boy was selling on eBay for $150 - $200 on the day of release, so I feel like people looked at that and felt good about the $65 price tag. The DARIUSBURST CE was super expensive and most who bought it also reported satisfaction - the common thread here being a positive correlation between satisfaction and quick secondary market value gain.

For whatever it's worth, I think all of our CEs are great and have turned out very well. Knowing the inner machinations of what partners want to make on these and how economies of scale affect our costs - I feel like the $65 price is very fair.

In any case, we're listening to feedback and our last CEs of the year will clearly reflect that. In the end, I'm not going to be able to please everyone, but I hope people see that we're listening and changing.
 
Dariousburst CE for PS4 is the first LRG I bought, and mainly for the ship figures (were I was then slightly disappointed in as I felt like I was going to break the fragile plastic as I put them together). I don't think there's anything inherently wrong or bad about the CE's getting released, but that most don't care for them if they are games they are not familiar with.

But that's the wonders of internet sometimes: I think the communication and discussions are helping everyone all around.

I did think of a cool thing to do with all the CE boxes one would get, and theoretically I could do this, but get a large bookcase/frame of a bookcase and create a sort or mural, a mosaic almost, with the CE boxes by stacking them top to bottom. I think that would be great "framed" art. If someone has the space, money and want. 

 
Is there any difference to the LRG River City Melee than the one from Play-Asia? I noticed that the PA release says "Battle Royal SP" and I'm mainly curious if I should sell my PA copy to get the LRG or keep both.

 
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