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zlatour said:
I don't think any retroactive tickets are happening... sad because most of us have bought all/most releases since inception and we could've had a free game.

Also, some of these rewards make no sense to me lol
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This makes no sense at all. If the tickets had been retro (which they confirmed before they even launched the program they would not be), they just would have made the number required to cash in for the free game higher. Frankly, it's nice that they are giving people anything at all considering their competitors like Iam8Bit, Fangamer and Gaijinworks have no such program and often charge far more for their releases.

 
Jurai said:
Limited Run put up the order form for redeeming rewards program tickets:

http://www.mightyrabbitstudios.com/LRG-LoyaltyOrderForm.pdf

40 Tickets for a game seems kinda steep considering they are only upto LRG #44, and I don't think we are retroactively getting tickets for previous games? I guess it's cool that it guarantees you a copy of any announced upcoming game though
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It doesn't guarantee a copy of anything. They will send you a code for $24.95 off any game you buy using their normal timed sales.

 
bojay1997 said:
It doesn't guarantee a copy of anything. They will send you a code for $24.95 off any game you buy using their normal timed sales.
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Fine print says they will guarantee you a copy of the announced release.

"*** Good for up to $24.99 off the price of an upcoming title. Upcoming title will not need to be specified at redemption. Coupon can be used at any time. Our customer service team will coordinate redemption. You may redeem this coupon at any point after a game is announced to guarantee a copy. You will be responsible for paying any difference in price between the coupon discount ($24.99) and the game price."

 
bojay1997 said:
This makes no sense at all. If the tickets had been retro (which they confirmed before they even launched the program they would not be), they just would have made the number required to cash in for the free game higher. Frankly, it's nice that they are giving people anything at all considering their competitors like Iam8Bit, Fangamer and Gaijinworks have no such program and often charge far more for their releases.
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Yea I know that; no need to explain it.

Also, I used to buy all releases for Vita and ps4 back then but now I only buy for ps4 and pick up just the unique vita releases (With the exception of the pax version of Runner 2 which I bought one of each; did not come with a ticket due to not being purchased online).
 
pitfallharry219 said:
I can't wait to spend $1,000+ to get my free copy of Mousecraft.
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didn't even think about it in that context, goodness

tbh I was hoping that we would see some kinda exclusive ultra limited release that you could only obtain with loyalty program tickets

 
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chrislaustin said:
Thanks Josh, I'm really looking forward to the rewards program. I'm more than happy just getting physical games at a decent price, but offering this program shows you care about giving back to the community, and that's cool.
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Are you going to pull a Carlito now and spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool?

 
It seems to be the trend that no matter what LRG does 50% of people are going to complain about it. I'm glad to hear the Dear Ether orders are shipping because I was tired of waiting.

 
zlatour said:
Will definitely encourage scalping. If you can clear at least the total for the game and 1/4 of the shipping on eBay you could amass tickets quite quickly...
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Well, they thought of that and put this on the order form:

In order to purchase rewards, you must provide the email address you use to purchase from Limited Run Games. As a measure to prevent the sale, transfer, and counterfeiting of rewards tickets, we will cross-reference your account at redemption to verify your tickets. Limited Run loyalty tickets are non-transferable and have no cash value.

 
So I got my copy of Slain from Signature Edition Games and it's got a loose disc. Never really hit me, but these PS4 CEs could just as easily get loose discs since most of them have the game in standard PS4 case, just boxed with other stuff. No way to fix it, other than to open it... which I wasn't going to.:p 

Also, I don't think the rewards system is bad... I mean, they don't have to give us anything. I was afraid that there would be some kind of high-ticket rewards-only version of something but luckily, that's not the case- only the 2 ticket sticker and 5-ticket keychain. With that said, I'm not a fan of the "random" items... not sure I wanna spend 5 tickets on a random-cover... especially given the random games I got from my BF blind boxes.;) 

 
I am debating on hard on ordering Runner 2 Friday. I like the game, but I also want to pick up Binding of Issac on Switch and Mass Effect next week and with everything that has came out in the last couple of months my gaming funds have been ran dry. These damn bills also unfortunately won't pay themselves.

 
Yeah, I see folks are already crunching the numbers...

Not impressed with the rewards program. The most economical option is to buy 40 '$24.99' games get 1 free? That's only 2.5% per dollar spent. That return goes down if you buy $29.99 games and bundles since you only get 1 ticket per game. It's a gonna be a while before I redeem my tickets (if I don't lose them first)...would much prefer the more common 5% per $100 spent rewards system. I get LRG is a small operation, even with the 2.5% reward per $1 spent, I'd be more likely to 'work' towards redeeming $5 off my next purchase than have to wait and save for a 'free' game or at the very least a $25 coupon.

I appreciate LRG's gesture, considering they seem to have already earned many loyal fans without a rewards program. I just expected a tad more value or to earn something more unique than a keychain.

 
evilgordo said:
Yeah, I see folks are already crunching the numbers...

Not impressed with the rewards program. The most economical option is to buy 40 '$24.99' games get 1 free? That's only 2.5% per dollar spent. That return goes down if you buy $29.99 games and bundles since you only get 1 ticket per game. It's a gonna be a while before I redeem my tickets (if I don't lose them first)...would much prefer the more common 5% per $100 spent rewards system. I get LRG is a small operation, even with the 2.5% reward per $1 spent, I'd be more likely to 'work' towards redeeming $5 off my next purchase than have to wait and save for a 'free' game or at the very least a $25 coupon.

I appreciate LRG's gesture, considering they seem to have already earned many loyal fans without a rewards program. I just expected a tad more value or to earn something more unique than a keychain.
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Really? Which publisher or retailer offers 5% back in rewards? Best Buy only offers 2% RZ and that's assuming you are either Elite or pay for GCU and get a full point per dollar and not .5 points which is what regular members get now. Gamestop is also 2% unless you pay for the Pro membership. Target gives 5% off but you have to apply for a credit card. I'm just not following who you are referring to when you say that 5% is "more common".

 
bojay1997 said:
Really? Which publisher or retailer offers 5% back in rewards? Best Buy only offers 2% RZ and that's assuming you are either Elite or pay for GCU and get a full point per dollar and not .5 points which is what regular members get now. Gamestop is also 2% unless you pay for the Pro membership. Target gives 5% off but you have to apply for a credit card. I'm just not following who you are referring to when you say that 5% is "more common".
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Not sure where you get 2% from, but I get 6% back in rewards at Best Buy. 5% at Amazon. Stores reward customers who spend more money with them, which is the same thing as LRG's program.

Yes, you need to sign up for a paid membership or apply for a credit card to get 5%-6%, but the savings outweigh the costs very quickly. If you're an adult signing up for a credit card with no annual fee shouldn't be a big deal. If you don't want to do paid memberships or get store credit cards, just get a Citi Double Cash card which is 2% back on everything at any store.
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Target gives 5% off but you have to apply for a credit card.
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Or Debit, which just requires a bank account.

 
bojay1997 said:
Really? Which publisher or retailer offers 5% back in rewards? Best Buy only offers 2% RZ and that's assuming you are either Elite or pay for GCU and get a full point per dollar and not .5 points which is what regular members get now. Gamestop is also 2% unless you pay for the Pro membership. Target gives 5% off but you have to apply for a credit card. I'm just not following who you are referring to when you say that 5% is "more common".
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Sorry for not citing examples. The point was, LRG's ticket system does not reward you for spending more money to earn the 40 tickets to redeem for a 'free' game.

NISAmerica's reward program works out to be 5% per $100 spent (5 points per $1), and 500 points is the minimum you need to redeem your rewards. It's not gaming related but that's the same rate @ Petco. Staples has a sliding reward scale (2-5%), but you earn 5% once you spend $1000 within a year (it's office supplies, not too difficult)

Many company credit cards offer 5% rewards. Target and Amazon was mentioned. Granted, these require a line of credit, but the principle is the same: spend more money with these businesses, and they'll reward you.

Putting the 5% aside and go with LRG's 2.5% rate, that's fine reward, but having to spend, at a minimum, $1000 before you can 'cash in' seems too much. I'd be more than happy of earning a $5 reward every $200 with the option of saving up rewards for a 'free' game. And I would like to earn tickets based on money spent on games, not per game purchased (what's the reward for buying $30 games or soundtrack bundles).

 
notaxation said:
Not sure where you get 2% from, but I get 6% back in rewards at Best Buy. 5% at Amazon. Stores reward customers who spend more money with them, which is the same thing as LRG's program.

Yes, you need to sign up for a paid membership or apply for a credit card to get 5%-6%, but the savings outweigh the costs very quickly. If you're an adult signing up for a credit card with no annual fee shouldn't be a big deal. If you don't want to do paid memberships or get store credit cards, just get a Citi Double Cash card which is 2% back on everything at any store.

Or Debit, which just requires a bank account.
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Again, the base RZ free program at Best Buy is .5 points per dollar spent or 1% back in rewards. If you pay for GCU and/or become Elite or Elite plus and/or apply for a credit card, you can hit 6%, but none of those are part of the base program and involve either spending substantial amounts of money or paying a membership fee or applying for a credit card. Amazon only recently started their 5% program and again, you must use their branded credit card. All I'm saying is that complaining that LRG isn't giving 5% back in rewards is absurd as that is not the "standard". No retailer or publisher does that without some other revenue stream (i.e. the potential to share in your credit card interest or signing up for a paid program) and frankly, if you have a rewards credit card, you can already use that on LRG purchases, so I'm not following why people don't just view this as an awesome perk that LRG doesn't have to even do.

 
As if the thread is not bloated enough and now adding the reward flames...  Look, there's no right or wrong here, yes we're lucky to have one and no, not enough love from LRG.  BUT DAMN, those ass kissing comments need to stop!  You can't compare LRG reward to BB, Amazon, Target etc....  As someone already pointed out, with other retailers you can buy other stuff, not just games.  If you're going to argue about this, you're not going to win so shut up.

HOWEVER, if you want to make things more interesting, like why not offer swags for the LRG reward points?  Do we really have to save them for a free game?  Why not make them redeemable for stickers, playing cards, CDs etc.?

 
Serpentor said:
As if the thread is not bloated enough and now adding the reward flames... Look, there's no right or wrong here, yes we're lucky to have one and no, not enough love from LRG. BUT DAMN, those ass kissing comments need to stop! You can't compare LRG reward to BB, Amazon, Target etc.... As someone already pointed out, with other retailers you can buy other stuff, not just games. If you're going to argue about this, you're not going to win so shut up.

HOWEVER, if you want to make things more interesting, like why not offer swags for the LRG reward points? Do we really have to save them for a free game? Why not make them redeemable for stickers, playing cards, CDs etc.?
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They did make them redeemable for stickers and cd's, the free game is just the highest ticket value item (40)

 
evilgordo said:
Sorry for not citing examples. The point was, LRG's ticket system does not reward you for spending more money to earn the 40 tickets to redeem for a 'free' game.

NISAmerica's reward program works out to be 5% per $100 spent (5 points per $1), and 500 points is the minimum you need to redeem your rewards. It's not gaming related but that's the same rate @ Petco. Staples has a sliding reward scale (2-5%), but you earn 5% once you spend $1000 within a year (it's office supplies, not too difficult)

Many company credit cards offer 5% rewards. Target and Amazon was mentioned. Granted, these require a line of credit, but the principle is the same: spend more money with these businesses, and they'll reward you.

Putting the 5% aside and go with LRG's 2.5% rate, that's fine reward, but having to spend, at a minimum, $1000 before you can 'cash in' seems too much. I'd be more than happy of earning a $5 reward every $200 with the option of saving up rewards for a 'free' game. And I would like to earn tickets based on money spent on games, not per game purchased (what's the reward for buying $30 games or soundtrack bundles).
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Nobody is forcing you to take the free game. There are a number of other lower cost rewards. Also, tracking dollars spent versus games bought would be even more of a logistical nightmare than the current system. I'm just happy that they are trying to reward frequent buyers and I think it's absurd to expect that they would match or exceed a small number of national retailers that are only doing 5% because they know many consumers will end up paying far more than that in interest over time.

 
bojay1997 said:
and involve either spending substantial amounts of money
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Which is exactly what you need to do with LRG to get value out of the program, buying 40 games for at least $1,000 to get the best return.

bojay1997 said:
All I'm saying is that complaining that LRG isn't giving 5% back in rewards is absurd as that is not the "standard".
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I didn't see anyone saying that, but even so, it's not hard to get 5% back at pretty much any store through any of the methods listed above.

 
notaxation said:
Which is exactly what you need to do with LRG to get value out of the program, buying 40 games for at least $1,000 to get the best return.

I didn't see anyone saying that, but even so, it's not hard to get 5% back at pretty much any store through any of the methods listed above.
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Evilgordo said exactly that - "would much prefer the more common 5% per $100 spent rewards system".

 
bojay1997 said:
Evilgordo said exactly that - "would much prefer the more common 5% per $100 spent rewards system".
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Okay, well he's right. 5% is common when you factor in all the different options. Membership programs (free and paid), store credit/debit cards, cashback sites, etc.. If they're going to add a rewards program and advertise it it's reasonable to expect it to be comparable to what else is out there, and right now, it's really not.

 
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40 games is going to cost closer to $1100 when you factor in shipping even with averaging just over 2 games per shipment.  2.5% isn't even possible.   Overall it's a program that only the flippers and over the top major collectors will take advantage of.  For anyone just collecting a single copy of each vita game, given the number of games released thus far, it'll take a little over 2 years before you earn that coupon and by then we could easily be at the end of life for Vita cart production.

As for comparing to other rewards programs, LRG has a very small number of items to purchase... the other sites mentioned have more items.   The bigger the site, the more ability there is to make a small percent savings worth a solid return.   It's hard to make a solid return when a store sells so few items unless the percent of value gained is much larger.  Of course with a rewards program like this I don't really look for a raw % return on value... what I look for is how achievable the goals are.  The $24.99 coupon is pretty unattainable.  So I look at the lower tier items that are attainable and none are things I'd actually want outside of a swag bag at a convention for free.  It's hard to woo me with a $0.02 sticker color variant or a post card.   If they had a preorder coupon or something towards any future release for a few tickets... that would be something I could get behind... though I'm sure resellers would ruin that.

Overall, it's good they are trying to reward customers in some way... it's just sad it is something even some of the more hardcore collectors won't even get to take much advantage of.  What I've read elsewhere is people are going to just go for the unique items and not bother saving tickets for anything beyond that.  To me, that sounded kind of crazy at first... but it makes the most sense from a collectors point of view.  You can buy the games and other stuff... the things that appear to be unique to the rewards program are the only things someone could add to their collection.

 
notaxation said:
Okay, well he's right. 5% is common when you factor in all the different options. Membership programs (free and paid), store credit/debit cards, cashback sites, etc.. If they're going to add a rewards program and advertise it it's reasonable to expect it to be comparable to what else is out there, and right now, it's really not.
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He's not though. Most store rewards programs and frankly, most credit card rewards programs work out to between 1% and 2%. You can already use a rewards credit card to pay for LRG games, so if you're going to claim that Target and Amazon give 5% for using one of their branded cards and Best Buy gives 6%, you should also give credit to LRG for both their internal rewards program and whatever you could get with an average cash back rewards card. It's also not reasonable to expect 5% rewards from a small business. Other than NIS, I'm not aware of any other small publisher that even offers rewards. Frankly, NIS took away free shipping and charges market shipping rate now which runs $7+ for even small games, so the rewards seem like a bit of a wash to me.

 
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Damn, this thread is toxic isn't it?

LRG offers physical games for digital ones, and that's great for some, but is somehow an issue for others.

Now they offer "FREE" items for buying said games, and now that is a problem? I guess if they gave out free bags of gold bars, we would have some complaining about the weight of the bags uh? 

After you buy a couple of games, you get a free keychain, what's the problem with that? LOL It's a free keychain you didn't have a few weeks before.

If you guys bought 2 copies of their more rare titles at release, you could sale the second copy and cover your next release within 30 days. Anyone here discussing spending 1000+ dollars to get a free game is going about it all wrong.

 
Hey look! Shiny new information on a upcoming LGR game release date.

April 11 2017*:

 Cosmic. Star. Heroine.

*PSN date

Thrust your hype train engines into full gear! Whoo Whoo!! :whee:  The RPG that hopes to build on our collective nostalgia is about to launch in only 4 WEEKS! :D/ No time to worry about a point system, or anything, You have the date so get ready to take off work and hunker down for the LGR release on Friday April 14th**

**purely wishful thinking

EDIT: want to spoil the mood I just set?
The vita version is coming "at a later date", and LGR is going to wait and  sell both versions at the same time. :wall: So now I'm just going for a worst case September '17 launch when Persona 5, Ys 8, and Danganronpa V3 all launch

 
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So much demand for CSH... Better be one of those 7000+ unit games and not 2500... And not on the same day as 6 other releases please...

As for tickets it's obvious most people will save them to gaurantee a low print future title and the lowest print titles are sub 100s cover variant leftovers.

 
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Giant_Gamer said:
Hey look! Shiny new information on a upcoming LGR game release date.

April 11 2017*:

Cosmic. Star. Heroine.

*PSN date

Thrust your hype train engines into full gear! Whoo Whoo!! :whee: The RPG that hopes to build on our collective nostalgia is about to launch in only 4 WEEKS! :D/ No time to worry about a point system, or anything, You have the date so get ready to take off work and hunker down for the LGR release on Friday April 14th**

**purely wishful thinking

EDIT: want to spoil the mood I just set?
The vita version is coming "at a later date", and LGR is going to wait and sell both versions at the same time. :wall: So now I'm just going for a worst case September '17 launch when Persona 5, Ys 8, and Danganronpa V3 all launch
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Persona 5 is out next month unless you're explicitly waiting for the japanese version

 
csbaker-az said:
So much demand for CSH... Better be one of those 7000+ unit games and not 2500... And not on the same day as 6 other releases please...

As for tickets it's obvious most people will save them to gaurantee a low print future title and the lowest print titles are sub 100s cover variant leftovers.
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I don't think the voucher guarantees you shit? Sounds like it's just a discount code you use at checkout and it's still gonna require you to be there and refreshing.

As for csh is it a sure thing they're waiting for the vita version? I like my vita as much as the next guy but to hold back for another version that may or may not ever happen seems stupid.
 
Oisterboy said:
I don't think the voucher guarantees you shit? Sounds like it's just a discount code you use at checkout and it's still gonna require you to be there and refreshing.

As for csh is it a sure thing they're waiting for the vita version? I like my vita as much as the next guy but to hold back for another version that may or may not ever happen seems stupid.
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I thought so too, but I was apparently wrong. Here is the fine print from the order form - "Our customer service team will coordinate redemption. You may redeem this coupon at any point after a game is announced to guarantee a copy. You will be responsible for paying any difference in price between the coupon discount ($24.99) and the game price."

 
Oisterboy said:
I don't think the voucher guarantees you shit? Sounds like it's just a discount code you use at checkout and it's still gonna require you to be there and refreshing.

As for csh is it a sure thing they're waiting for the vita version? I like my vita as much as the next guy but to hold back for another version that may or may not ever happen seems stupid.
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My understanding is that they have been working on the Vita version along side the PS4 version and that it is running okay, but still needed some optimization. I think it was playable at one of the recent shows, but now I cannot seem to find the article. I think they have been aware of the challenges of porting to the Vita and was not an afterthought. This one will be released.

 
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My understanding is that they have been working on the Vita version along side the PS4 version and that it is running okay, but still needed some optimization. I think it was playable at one of the recent shows, but now I cannot seem to find the article. I think they have been aware of the challenges of porting to the Vita and was not an afterthought. This one will be released.
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Yeah, I can't find it either, but it was stated this isn't an Axiom Verge situation where the Vita hasn't even started yet, it was an issue of fine tuning the final versions across all system that are getting it, and they didn't want to delay the game further to make the Vita tweaks along with the others. I believe I read it may only be a few weeks behind.

Now take that with a grain of salt, but once the other versions are approved and "done", it's all hands on deck to finish the Vita game, so it may be a few weeks, or maybe a month or so, but they are planning to do it fast, so unless something major happens, it should be pretty soon.

 
So Im looking at the LRG rewards form and correct me if I am wrong on how I read it....

If something costs say 5 tickets then you need 5 physical tickets, it isnt like a ticket has a greater value such as for example a ticket is worth say 5 points.

If you want to redeem your tickets you need to physical send your tickets in with your order form right? And not like just use the serial number off the ticket?

 
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I thought so too, but I was apparently wrong. Here is the fine print from the order form - "Our customer service team will coordinate redemption. You may redeem this coupon at any point after a game is announced to guarantee a copy. You will be responsible for paying any difference in price between the coupon discount ($24.99) and the game price."
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Oh rad. That definitely makes it worth saving for.

Also thanks for the replies on regards to csh. I don't keep up with this stuff beyond knowing when lrg is dropping them.
 
For anyone hot to play Cosmic Star Heroine it is crossbuy on PSN and has a PS+ preorder discount of 20% off right now. So $11.99 gets both versions. First the ps4 version on the 4/11 and then Vita version when it hits the store. This is probably how I'll go about getting the game to determine how much I want the Vita version in physical form... though I'm not against just getting it on steam either since I have all of Zeeboyds other games over there.

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/cosmic-star-heroine/cid=UP0707-CUSA03167_00-ZEBOYDCSHFG00001

As for the Vita version, read this (and specifically the comments where the dev responds):

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1596638143/cosmic-star-heroine-sci-fi-spy-rpg-for-pc-mac-ps4/posts/1821265

In the comments the dev mentions after the PC/PS4 versions come out the next priority is finishing the Linux & Mac versions and then the Vita version after that (but before the X1 version). More importantly the dev states...

We haven't decided on an exact date for the physical release with LRG yet, but I don't expect it to be any sooner than 2 months after the digital launch. Gotta give us time to catch our breath. :)
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So with the game coming out April 11th, there's pretty much no chance it'll be out with LRG before June 11th. It might even be pushing it to suggest it'll be out in June if the dev is saying 2 months after the digital Vita version. Whatever the case the game, once done on Vita, will have to go through Sony approval and then it'll have to sit in the cue for production once things are handed off to LRG for their part. Production delays, approval issues, anything can push this off.

So.. if you are hot for CSH (this and the Dragon Fantasy 1 remake are the games I want from LRG), it is probably better to just get the digital version with the 20% off to play the game as soon as it's available rather than waiting and waiting for the physical version. To me, this is the kind of game I probably won't mind mind owning in multiple places.

 
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bojay1997 said:
Really? Which publisher or retailer offers 5% back in rewards? Best Buy only offers 2% RZ and that's assuming you are either Elite or pay for GCU and get a full point per dollar and not .5 points which is what regular members get now. Gamestop is also 2% unless you pay for the Pro membership. Target gives 5% off but you have to apply for a credit card. I'm just not following who you are referring to when you say that 5% is "more common".
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You don't have to apply for just a credit card for Target. They provide the option to use a debit card that they mail over which is completely free and you still get the 5%.

Also if you sign up for an American Express blue cash everyday card they provide 10% back on amazon purchases for the first 6 months.

 
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Zeboyd originally started off as an XNA developer, releasing some of his earliest titles on Xbox Live. (for the 360) It is likely that he is using MonoGame for developing Cosmic Star Heroine. This should make it relatively easy for him to port the game to other platforms. MonoGame is a cross-platform friendly framework. Specific testing and optimization would need to be done for each platform, but it isn't as difficult as porting a game from the ground up.

 
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