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There are just too many physical release out there.  Very few can afford to spend hundreds of dollars every week to keep a full collection.  In the end people are just going to be more picky on what they spend their money on.

 
I've touched on this before, but over the last two years it has gone from a "It's so cool that this exists" type of mentality to one of irritation and frustration. Prices are higher. Consumer choice is much, much lower. Items are announced 24 hours before they go on sale. Multiple variants or CE exclusive copies of games are released. There are many other issues, and I could go into much more detail, but I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole here. Suffice it to say, it has made collecting significantly less enjoyable. And I only buy titles that I'm interested in, so there are loads that I pass on as it is. 

 
I've enjoyed LRG more than ever over the past year. I only buy the games I actually want and they have been pumping out some amazing CEs lately.
 
There are just too many physical release out there. Very few can afford to spend hundreds of dollars every week to keep a full collection. In the end people are just going to be more picky on what they spend their money on.
Yeah, I used to jump on every release but then it got to the point that there are simply too many releases
 
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Once I started buying only the titles I was interested in, collecting games became enjoyable again.  I look at my LRG stack from just the last year or so and those games feel special.

 
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I wish I didn't buy 3/4 of the Vita titles released by LRG in the beginning. Bought every Vita release up until Mecho Tales.

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Once I started buying only the titles I was interested in, collecting games became enjoyable again. I look at my LRG stack from just the last year or so and those games feel special.
Same here as it felt more of a job then a hobby. Always hated regretting some purchases so this way it makes it fun again and saves my sanity.
 
There are just too many physical release out there. Very few can afford to spend hundreds of dollars every week to keep a full collection. In the end people are just going to be more picky on what they spend their money on.
I'm more picky than I have ever been about physical releases. I've also come to terms with realizing not every game I love I will really want to play again years from now. I'm not going digital... but I am opting for a cheap digital version of a game I want to just play and if I lose it .. .oh well... versus another item for my shelf that I'll eventually need to sell off (or donate if the value tanks). My physical purchases are the exceptional stuff I want to play and hopefully will replay.

 
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Most of what I'm interested in and buy now are physical copies of Indie darlings.  Games that will still be iconic and special 20 years from now for their presentation, art style, and music.

 
I've heard such good things about Celeste, but I am justifying passing because it doesn't include all DLC on disc. It would have been nice if they could have included it so that this is a "complete" game.
Fwiw I believe the coming dlc was announced after they had started doing orders / game won a bunch of awards, entirely possible even the devs didn't have the upcoming dlc planned yet
 
There's no further news as to whether Best Buy finalized their order of Celeste with LRG, right? It's still possible that they back out. Really tempted to wait for the GCU discount.

 
Went ahead and bought GAME TENGOKU CRUISINMIX SPECIAL PARADISE BOX EDITION. Don’t need anymore of these big box CEs as they’re harder to put on the shelf as a lot of them are different sizes height wise but the content of this one looks pretty nice. That’s the one thing I love about Play Asia’s limited editions. All the PS4 LEs are exactly the same size and display nicely on the shelf. At $39.99 plus free shipping and no tax, makes my decision much easier.

Anyone been buying from Super Rare games? I’ve gotten all their releases so far and the business practice I like that they have been doing so far is only selling games they have on hand. No 2-8 month preorders. I order a game, within 5 days, it’s being shipped. LRG definitely has over $1000 of my money tied up in preorders but the number is probably higher.
 
Cosmic Star Heroine artbook shipped in a padded envelope, damaged obviously. Are they mental?

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Cosmic Star Heroine artbook shipped in a padded envelope, damaged obviously. Are they mental?
Yeah, my copies are due tomorrow, so I'll report back after they arrive. I'm really hoping they used a box since I ordered 2 books and a game, but I'm not hopeful after reading the comments here.

 
Yeah, my copies are due tomorrow, so I'll report back after they arrive. I'm really hoping they used a box since I ordered 2 books and a game, but I'm not hopeful after reading the comments here.
Mine did arrive in a box - I ordered it with CSH for the Switch. I can't say the interior packaging was great. There were a couple of pieces of brown paper, but not enough to keep everything secure. Still, the box was thick enough that the art book did arrive in perfect condition. The game, on the other hand, has either a crease or a tear in the front cover art. Probably was like that before the insert was even placed in the case, though.

If you ordered 2 books and a game, you should be good. I'm actually a little surprised I got a box if others are still getting padded envelopes - I had pretty much the same order with Thimbleweed Park (switch game and the art book) and they arrived in an envelope with the book in rough shape.

 
Mine did arrive in a box - I ordered it with CSH for the Switch. I can't say the interior packaging was great. There were a couple of pieces of brown paper, but not enough to keep everything secure. Still, the box was thick enough that the art book did arrive in perfect condition. The game, on the other hand, has either a crease or a tear in the front cover art. Probably was like that before the insert was even placed in the case, though.

If you ordered 2 books and a game, you should be good. I'm actually a little surprised I got a box if others are still getting padded envelopes - I had pretty much the same order with Thimbleweed Park (switch game and the art book) and they arrived in an envelope with the book in rough shape.
Yeah, from the business side, I understand the "bubble mailer", as it's cheap and keeps cost down. But from two guys who claim to be collectors, sending anything but a small thin CD/DVD case in a bubble mailer is blasphemous to say the least. All the boxes I have got from LRG in the past, have come the same way you described, with some brown paper and not much else. It has been effective, as it's been used to keep the empty spaces less empty, and so long as the trip isn't to harsh, it works.

I can only imagine how many replacement request they are going to get from customers, all to save a few pennies, which they are gonna end up spending and then some(damages, returns, shipping twice, using boxes for returns, etc). Measure twice, cut once, but I guess that's news to LRG. As a fan, seller and buyer, I've seen bubble mailers from all sides, and they don't work, period. Unless the item included is small and very rigid, anything else WILL be damaged(to varying degrees). Maybe that small savings was worth the potential headache, but the loss productivity of now answering emails, reshipping, having to now box, loss inventory, and for what?

These guys should know their base if nothing else, and they would be pissed if they got a collectible in a bubble mailer, so why do it to fans? That seems a complete disconnect to me, but maybe someone in shipping made the call, and Josh & Doug can plead ignorance. That's an excuse that shouldn't be offered, as it's your company, and nothing should happen without your knowledge. So even if it's offered up, I'm not biting, as this kind of shit should never happen, especially in a "limited" retail market.

 
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I wonder if they will say "you should have ordered a shipping box" for anyone who gets a damaged book and didn't specifically order a shipping box.  I DO like that they have that option and it's only $2.  I do always order it when I order a single game, but when I order a book + game, I have (maybe mistakenly) assumed they'd ship in a box.  I mean, a PS4 game + anything else gets a box (I think).   And I DID get one this time.  I have a feeling anyone who just ordered the book will be in for disappointment, though.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone should have to order a shipping box when dealing with a hardcover book.  The seller should be the one who doesn't want to deal with complaints of damaged items.  

 
Mine did arrive in a box - I ordered it with CSH for the Switch. I can't say the interior packaging was great. There were a couple of pieces of brown paper, but not enough to keep everything secure. Still, the box was thick enough that the art book did arrive in perfect condition. The game, on the other hand, has either a crease or a tear in the front cover art. Probably was like that before the insert was even placed in the case, though.
I've had a couple boxed games arrive damaged because they put way too much paper in the box.

The manufacturing process for Switch game packaging seems to be a bit shoddy - my copy of CSH also has what appears to be a tear in the front cover plastic (under the shrink wrap). The number of Switch games I've seen with badly misaligned or creased cover inserts is really high compared to what I see on other platforms.

 
Bubble mailers suck but I bet the amount of complaints/replacement requests they get because of them is far far less then you think which is exactly why so many retailers continue to use them.

 
I’m glad to see other people having issues with the Switch cover art, too. 3 damaged Golf Story, 2 damaged Cosmic Star (waiting in the replacement process), one damaged Oxenfree. And I don’t buy all of the Switch releases, so there could surely be more.


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Bubble mailers suck but I bet the amount of complaints/replacement requests they get because of them is far far less then you think which is exactly why so many retailers continue to use them.
Yeah, the same numbers apply to all my purchases that get sent in bubble mailers, which is about 9 out of 10 arrive damaged. The difference is that most stuff arriving damaged due to the packaging is a non issue, but for collectibles or rare items, damages don't work. I've never once really argued why big box places use bubble mailers, and that's for the exact reason mentioned.

When you have collector's sending you collectibles in a bubble mailer, then we have a problem, and that's the case here. I've never cared when LRG has shipped my games in bubble mailers, even when the TC or sticker may have gotten bent. To send an item of this cost in this manner, without stating clearly it would be shipped this way, is just ignorance, stupidity or both. I believe shipping was more for this item, so where did the extra funds go?

When I ship items where condition is an issue, I charge more, and that takes this kind of problem out of the equation, as the buyer pays for the protection in the final cost. State this was gonna be shipped in a bubble mailer, and recommend the box, but why even do that, as most don't read anyways. You just charge extra, and ship it in a secure way, which I thought that was the purpose of the higher cost to begin with.

 
I’m glad to see other people having issues with the Switch cover art, too. 3 damaged Golf Story, 2 damaged Cosmic Star (waiting in the replacement process), one damaged Oxenfree. And I don’t buy all of the Switch releases, so there could surely be more.
Yeah, I've only gotten 2 NS games so far, and Golf Story has an issue with the shrink wrap, but I never knew it was a big issue, as I don't have many NS games from LRG. I just figured I got a bad copy, but it was still sealed, so not a big issue. But it is for sure a poor wrap job, so they may want to look in to this more in-depth if possible, as collectors want perfect, and not just passable.

 
Yeah, I've only gotten 2 NS games so far, and Golf Story has an issue with the shrink wrap, but I never knew it was a big issue, as I don't have many NS games from LRG. I just figured I got a bad copy, but it was still sealed, so not a big issue. But it is for sure a poor wrap job, so they may want to look in to this more in-depth if possible, as collectors want perfect, and not just passable.

Mine have been arriving the way that Best Buy games arrive in Padded Envelopes. Except they’re shipped in boxes, and I can’t go down to the store to swap them out. It’s really, really irritating.


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Well, no books for me today it seems, but my Tempest mini replica from New Wave Toys shipped directly from China, arrived today. And it was shipped by "saver" and after my CSH books shipped, and arrived sooner from over seas. So yeah, don't even get me started on that saver shipping used by LRG, as that's another bad idea, but I guess when you've been waiting months for games, who's gonna notice another week or two right? LOL

What's funny is that my shipment from China was handled by FedEx and then handed off to USPS, so it had a similar style trip to my LRG order, and still arrived faster, how sad is that?

 
Every company that sells limited run games now is outdoing LRG when it comes to speed of shipping and packaging quality. I just assume at this point that if my game is in a bubble mailer that the card will be bent to some degree. Hell, I've now had bent cards in three boxed packages. Not that it matters much since I have not received a single gold card in over 8o games purchased -- that's really defying the odds. They have gone from a great fun company with a cool mission to a bloated penny-pinching company that peddles too much overpriced junk and is not consumer friendly much at all.

 
Yeah, I've only gotten 2 NS games so far, and Golf Story has an issue with the shrink wrap, but I never knew it was a big issue, as I don't have many NS games from LRG. I just figured I got a bad copy, but it was still sealed, so not a big issue. But it is for sure a poor wrap job, so they may want to look in to this more in-depth if possible, as collectors want perfect, and not just passable.
I could care less about shrink wrap, but there have been issues with the case and cover art itself.

 
I got Cosmic Star Heroine the other day, there was a small hole punched in the back of it, damaging the (back) cover art.  I sent in a ticket to see if they could throw in a replacement cover with one of my like 5 pending orders but I understand their customer service is quite backed up?  Just hoping it gets addressed...

 
Every company that sells limited run games now is outdoing LRG when it comes to speed of shipping and packaging quality. I just assume at this point that if my game is in a bubble mailer that the card will be bent to some degree. Hell, I've now had bent cards in three boxed packages. Not that it matters much since I have not received a single gold card in over 8o games purchased -- that's really defying the odds. They have gone from a great fun company with a cool mission to a bloated penny-pinching company that peddles too much overpriced junk and is not consumer friendly much at all.
Not to mention the overpriced shipping...I’ve been waiting a week on a package they charged me $25 to ship. If I sold a similar package weighing a few pounds on eBay or the like I’d charge half the shipping rate and get it to my customer in 2 to 3 days.
 
I got Cosmic Star Heroine the other day, there was a small hole punched in the back of it, damaging the (back) cover art. I sent in a ticket to see if they could throw in a replacement cover with one of my like 5 pending orders but I understand their customer service is quite backed up? Just hoping it gets addressed...
Yeah, they're super backed up. Last I heard it was supposedly getting better, but I still see a lot of posts here and elsewhere about tickets falling through the cracks.

Not to mention the overpriced shipping...I’ve been waiting a week on a package they charged me $25 to ship. If I sold a similar package weighing a few pounds on eBay or the like I’d charge half the shipping rate and get it to my customer in 2 to 3 days.
A week since you ordered or a week since you got the shipping confirmation email? If it's the former, you've probably still got a few months to go. If it's the latter, then you should be getting it any day. It's usually 5-10 business days when I get an item after the confirmation email.

Also, for what it's worth, they did address this on the Fireside Chat last week - the local USPS office can't handle their package volume so their most affordable domestic shipping option is UPS Mail Innovations.

 
Speaking of their Fireside Chat they said a few interesting things during it, including that their first PS3 release should be happening sometime within the next month. Wonder what that one will be.  They also went into a little more detail about the WiiU release, and how they were screwed out of 78K dollars but mentioned its more likely than not the WiiU release will go on sale by the end of March.

 
Also, for what it's worth, they did address this on the Fireside Chat last week - the local USPS office can't handle their package volume so their most affordable domestic shipping option is UPS Mail Innovations.
Well, that makes perfect sense, as USPS is probably the biggest most poorly ran business in the USA. So the fact that they can't ship packages(which is their business BTW), sounds about right sadly. What business in the free world doesn't want this kind of problem? Not USPS apparently, as why deal with more volume, when it only means more work and profits? What a concept right?

 
Also, for what it's worth, they did address this on the Fireside Chat last week - the local USPS office can't handle their package volume so their most affordable domestic shipping option is UPS Mail Innovations.
So for the uninformed:
What they mean is that the local USPS does not have them on a collection route, and since they do not mail out everyday... they won’t be on a collection route. And since they would need to go online and notify the post office when they do have a pickup, which with their volume would put a burden on the carrier that day, they pay MORE to have UPS come pick up the packages and............... give them to USPS.
Oh, and pass that extra payment on.

Look it up, that’s what ups mail innovations is.

Its not the usps cant handle mailing the packages, it’s that the usps requires the business to inform them when they have a large shipment.. so they can plan for it. Or a normal pickup on a collection route. Which unless they mail everyday they would have a hard time getting it set up.
 
So for the uninformed:
What they mean is that the local USPS does not have them on a collection route, and since they do not mail out everyday... they won’t be on a collection route. And since they would need to go online and notify the post office when they do have a pickup, which with their volume would put a burden on the carrier that day, they pay MORE to have UPS come pick up the packages and............... give them to USPS.
Oh, and pass that extra payment on.

Look it up, that’s what ups mail innovations is.
Not really, at least not the way you stated it. That reads to me like UPS is picking up the packages at LRG's warehouse and just driving all of those packages to the local post office that LRG is saying can't handle the volume. That's not what is happening. UPS is picking up the packages at LRG's warehouse and delivering them to the destination cities. Once they arrive at the destination city, UPS hands it off to USPS. Nowhere in this scenario is one local USPS office receiving all of the packages.

 
So for the uninformed:
What they mean is that the local USPS does not have them on a collection route, and since they do not mail out everyday... they won’t be on a collection route. And since they would need to go online and notify the post office when they do have a pickup, which with their volume would put a burden on the carrier that day, they pay MORE to have UPS come pick up the packages and............... give them to USPS.
Oh, and pass that extra payment on.

Look it up, that’s what ups mail innovations is.

Its not the usps cant handle mailing the packages, it’s that the usps requires the business to inform them when they have a large shipment.. so they can plan for it. Or a normal pickup on a collection route. Which unless they mail everyday they would have a hard time getting it set up.
Yeah, have you ever tried to use their service for pick ups? It's abysmal at best, as I have a friend who's business is 5 minutes from my house, and his collection box is about 10 feet from his rear door. And he had to spend weeks on the phone with USPS to get them to come in his business and pick up mail, which he has daily.

While I'm not defending LRG in anyway in regards to shipping, as there's tons of issues I'm sure of their own creation, but USPS is terrible, and a quick yelp review of any office anywhere in the USA will show that and then some. I personally NEVER bothered with their pick up service, as it's a waste of time, as they pick up when they want, and if they don't, they won't.

As stated above, this service works different than what your describing anyways, but even if it did, USPS isn't up to the task either way, as I speak from my own experience with them, and large volumes.

 
Yes they send them to the post office in the destination city, and PAY usps to deliver them. In some areas they do in fact drop them at the P&DC.

And btw, its illegal to turn them away.. if they “can’t handle” the volume is the excuse... that’s the PM breaking the law. The excuse lrg gives is wrong.

Usps=free pickup just schedule it.
Ups=nope

https://www.ups.com/us/en/help-center/sri/pickupcharge.page
You are paying more for the same service.

Btw, going in the rear door for a normal mail pickup... violates DMM. That’s why the issue. Requirement of being 15’ or less from front door only, we are not allowed to go in back yards or door of buildings. We are required to be 100% visible at all times and not allowed to be perceived as giving a special service to anyone, its actually a felony cause it violates CFR.

Also, I’ll bet lrg was wanting a 4-5pm pickup for their packages.. and the carrier gets there at 9-10am. It’s also a special service to go out of the way and backtrack to special pickup at any certain time set by the customer... the mailer is required to have the pickup ready when the carrier regularly gets there. Ups charges so they will do whatever the mailer wants, a collection route will work with the mailer for times but the mailer also has to meet minimal mailing requirements also.

I’m betting there’s a ton of info they fail to mention (lrg), on purpose, which would explain their situation more clearly.
 
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Btw, going in the rear door for a normal mail pickup... violates DMM. That’s why the issue. Requirement of being 15’ or less from front door only, we are not allowed to go in back yards or door of buildings. We are required to be 100% visible at all times and not allowed to be perceived as giving a special service to anyone, its actually a felony cause it violates CFR.
It's strange that whenever I schedule a pickup on the USPS site that an option for pickup location is "Back Door."

 
Outside. Inside is no. And if you read the instructions there are things the mailer must follow or its not picked up. Back door and knock? Nope. Come to the back door and we’ll let you in to grab the stuff? Nope. Must be 100% ready and waiting for us when we get there.
The whole deliver in one location and pickup in another is also a no, that’s a special service.

Nobody here has ever read the DMM, the *requirements* that you as the mailer must follow.

There are exceptions, that’s why the rear door can’t be removed from the form. Delivery service has been setup in an alley for example (residential and business) so “rear door” is used instead of the front door which could be a longer walk/drive.

Read the DMM, most of the issues can be addressed and understood from reading that. We are federal employees, we are required under law to follow the CFR, DMM, local laws, and lastly the contract. And in that order.
 
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I've seen another route some small business take with USPS.  The business packages and puts postage on a massive lot of items and  then drives them to the post office in a van or other vehicle and load them into mail sorting carts at the post office, which then takes them in.   I bet if they worked with the post office and delivered the packages in this manner they could get packages shipped out quicker and cheaper.   UPS Innovation, I think they take the packages and let them accumulate before shipping.  Worst case, if they have the tiniest of post offices is to literally drive them to the nearest larger post office.  There should be at least one per county that can handle the load.  This would be a job for people in... well... the shipping department that is putting packages together.  Unfortunately the smaller areas are going to have a hard time taking a massive load of items randomly.  Seems like these days with so many items backlogged to ship, they should be able to have a regular scheduled pickup even if it's every Tuesday and Friday morning.

Of note for the switch games, Nintendo isn't the packager for the games.  I'm not even sure that Nintendo applies the stickers to the carts.  LRG subs packaging work out to someone else and that's why the quality is all over the place with crooked inserts (like my copy of Golf Story)... and cheaper wrap jobs (and so on).  Ultimately it all falls on LRG to have the product pristine and well packaged when it ships... it's easy to forget in the big picture they are still rookies at this stuff despite the years of experience.  Sony made them a bit soft with product packaging since they handled it all.   LRG would have been really well off if they had someone on board that had done a lot of ebaying and put pride into how they shipped.  Hundreds of packages I've sent out and I've only ever had praise on how things were packaged.   Delivering while maintaining quality is not that costly a challenge with games.

 
FYI that’s available for free to ALL customers, business and residential.
Most post offices have that set up and many P&DC’s have areas just for that.

And with a scheduled pickup on a collection route, it I think has to be a minimum of 3 days? And if they start slacking.. say no mailing for a week, they are done and off the collection.
 
Could this issue of shipping with LRG just be an issue that LRG created for themselves? I remember when LRG promised that releases would slow down but we’re getting a release damn near every week now. Now they’re releasing and shipping way more games then their small amount of staff can handle. This coincides with their customer service. Obviously, releasing and shipping games so frequently, more problems were going to arise. I don’t feel like LRG adequately approached this growing business as imo, they’re growing too fast for their own good. This worries me some times as them having probably $1000 of my money in pre orders.

Don’t get me wrong, I loved what LRG started as. A small company that wanted gamers/collectors to have physical copies of games. I still love that they’re still giving us the opportunity to get those games but I can’t help to feel like their passion for collectors/gamers having physical games has turned into more of a cash grab. Trying to grab every game possible to release a physical version of whether it be a good game or trash.
 
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They slowed down signing stuff, problem is they already signed so much stuff or ready they really can't slow down.

 
Could this issue of shipping with LRG just be an issue that LRG created for themselves? I remember when LRG promised that releases would slow down but we’re getting a release damn near every week now. Now they’re releasing and shipping way more games then their small amount of staff can handle. This coincides with their customer service. Obviously, releasing and shipping games so frequently, more problems were going to arise. I don’t feel like LRG adequately approached this growing business as imo, they’re growing too fast for their own good. This worries me some times as them having probably $1000 of my money in pre orders.

Don’t get me wrong, I loved what LRG started as. A small company that wanted gamers/collectors to have physical copies of games. I still love that they’re still giving us the opportunity to get those games but I can’t help to feel like their passion for collectors/gamers having physical games has turned into more of a cash grab. Trying to grab every game possible to release a physical version of whether it be a good game or trash.
I would recommend that you watch the "Fireside Chat" they posted last week. They have apparently staffed up to five full time customer service reps and eight full time shipping people, plus another team of temps to assist. The backlog is going down and I know I have been receiving 2-3 packages a week for the past month with games from them. I also don't buy this idea that they are just releasing whatever as a cash grab. There are fans of literally every single release they have ever done and just because you don't think a particular game is good or interesting, doesn't mean that is objectively true.

 
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