LOTS of EB Trade-In Exclusions

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I apologize if this was already posted, but EB has up all the exclusions for its trade in offers and there are A LOT. Here's the link for excluded PS2 trade-ins, the Xbox and GCn exclusions are pretty extensive too:

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/ebtrade/exclusions/ps2.asp

It's on the EBgames website under the trade in offer for Halo 2. You'll see links for all exclusions.

Well, so much for those trade ins, anyone interested in buying a bunch of excluded games? :lol:
 
[quote name='hwong3']I apologize if this was already posted, but EB has up all the exclusions for its trade in offers and there are A LOT. Here's the link for excluded PS2 trade-ins, the Xbox and GCn exclusions are pretty extensive too:

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/ebtrade/exclusions/ps2.asp

It's on the EBgames website under the trade in offer for Halo 2. You'll see links for all exclusions.

Well, so much for those trade ins, anyone interested in buying a bunch of excluded games? :lol:[/quote]

Yep, already been posted. As for your games, just do what I did...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11321&item=3079598700
 
Sorry I reposted, I wanted to get it up quickly when I saw it because it freaked me out. :( It probably would have been easier for EB to list all the games that they DO accept. Would have been a much shorter list. :wink:

Other than selling them on eBay, any other suggestions? Does anyone know if these games can still qualify for those "more you trade more you make" offers (e.g. trade 3 get an extra $10 or whatever)?
 
It's amazing what people will pay for stuff on Ebay. Auction is already up to $6.33 per game and still has 6 days left.
 
Re: Ebay--those of you who have sold on there; do you find it more profitable to sell as a lot, or singles? I can understand the motivation for not having 45 separate auctions, but what about if you only have, say, 8 or 10 games to sell?
[outkastx: when I checked your auction, the Shipping cost at the bottom said 5.00, but in the description it did say 15.00.]
Another place to try to sell stuff, as mentioned in another thread, is Half.com. It amazes me what people will pay for items. DVDPricesearch gives me a best price of 17.99 + free shipping for Cowboy Bebop Session 2; I just sold my copy on Half.com for 18.00. My net after commission and shipping credit--about 16 bucks. No, I won't get rich doing that, but I did recoup some money on an item I don't plan on watching again. That might be a place to sell some of the less-in-demand titles.
On a side note, did anyone else notice that many titles on the exclusion list, were also on the 'Super Circuit City Markdown' or Target Markdown lists? Defender, Maximo, Hunter: Wayward, etc.
 
Lots vs. single auctions really depend on the quality of the games. I *NEVER* sell lots of stuff. The only reason I'm selling all that crap together is that they would only sell for $1-7 each and it takes a lot of time to put the auctions together, package, ship, and just keep track of everything.

However, if you lump together 3 or 4 (or 6 or 8) quality games, you will never get market price. If you wanted, you could go buy a Turbo Grafx 16 system and 10 games on ebay for $50 - $75 and then turn around and sell everything as singles for $100 - $125 (depending on the games, etc).

If I'm looking for a system or a few games for a system, you can usually buy them up in a lot and then turn around selling everything but tne games you want to keep for about the same or a little less.

It depends on the items being sold and how much time you have.
 
I've done this in the past to get rid of a lot of worthless games, and I'm always amazed at the amount people will pay for a bundle like this. I definitely find it is far more profitable to sell crappy games off in groups rather than one-at-a-time. I've put games up on Ebay that recieved zero bids, then bundled into a group and made a killing.

Another strategy I've used is to sell the games in a package with a brand new console. For example, I recently went out and bought a brand new PS2 and Xbox so I could get rid of a bunch of games. I bundled the PS2 with 20 games and the Xbox with 25 games. Here are the links so you can see what they sold for:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11328&item=3066701276
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20387&item=3066701301

I always make sure to set a reserve for the price of the system plus at least $5 per game (to make the whole effort worthwhile and avoid getting screwed). One of the cool things about this technique is I can take advantage of some of the deals you get when you buy a new system. For example, I bought these at Game Crazy, so I got two sheets of 12 free game/DVD rental coupons.

Also, it makes a big difference to pay a few extra eBay fees to feature these deals in the Gallery.
 
Exclusion List for PlayStation 2

The following games are not eligible for the free Halo 2 offer. If you trade in games from the list below, you will receive a credit equal to the current value of the game, which can be as low as 25¢.


227623 HAVEN

That should be on a tshirt!
 
[quote name='TheDecn']I've done this in the past to get rid of a lot of worthless games, and I'm always amazed at the amount people will pay for a bundle like this. I definitely find it is far more profitable to sell crappy games off in groups rather than one-at-a-time. I've put games up on Ebay that recieved zero bids, then bundled into a group and made a killing.

Another strategy I've used is to sell the games in a package with a brand new console. For example, I recently went out and bought a brand new PS2 and Xbox so I could get rid of a bunch of games. I bundled the PS2 with 20 games and the Xbox with 25 games. Here are the links so you can see what they sold for:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11328&item=3066701276
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20387&item=3066701301

I always make sure to set a reserve for the price of the system plus at least $5 per game (to make the whole effort worthwhile and avoid getting screwed). One of the cool things about this technique is I can take advantage of some of the deals you get when you buy a new system. For example, I bought these at Game Crazy, so I got two sheets of 12 free movie/DVD rental coupons.

Also, it makes a big difference to pay a few extra eBay fees to feature these deals in the Gallery.[/quote]

That's some real good work there.

If I did my math right.You made like 90 bucks-ish? So it's a good deal to sit on these 7 dollar Target games for a while and then sell 'em all off in one package but only if it's the really bottom of the barrel stuff.
 
[quote name='TheDecn']Another strategy I've used is to sell the games in a package with a brand new console. For example, I recently went out and bought a brand new PS2 and Xbox so I could get rid of a bunch of games. I bundled the PS2 with 20 games and the Xbox with 25 games. Here are the links so you can see what they sold for:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11328&item=3066701276
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20387&item=3066701301
.[/quote]

That's a really, really great idea. I'll have to use that sometime.
 
Hey, outkastx, did you go to EB and buy all those games at the same time for less than you are selling them for? Or did you really have those and just want to get rid of them?
 
[quote name='XboxMaster']Hey, outkastx, did you go to EB and buy all those games at the same time for less than you are selling them for? Or did you really have those and just want to get rid of them?[/quote]

Picked those up off of ebgames.com for around ~~ $270... but i bought them with credit.
 
I noticed mentioning the word free can make some people go crazy on bidding too. When I listed Suikoden II it originally ended at about 67.00 w/ the buyer having to pay about $3 shipping. He didn't pay so I relisted and had "free shipping" in the title bar and description and when my item ended at $90.00 it became probably the first time I was happy that an ebay bidder hadn't gone through the deal.
 
I don't like EB even a little bit. I'd rather go to Gamestop where they actually like your business. I just wish they kept selling games for old systems like SNES.
 
Thats like evry playstation 2 game ever made! That sucks! Oh well.

Hey to the person who asked a ebay question. Sell them together + do free shipping! You get double the hits. It only cost 1.42 to send them media mail. Must peo-ple charge 5.0-0 shipping on games do it for free (1.42) and you'll make that money back easy. Trust me I do it all the time. All of my auctions are free shipping. Makes a killing. I sold six stupid games that eb would only give 2.00 - 3.00 each and I made 160.00 Go Ebay! I would see sets together like socom 1 and socam 2 different games sell separte! You don't want like a football game with splinter cell. That type of thing. Same type sell together! Make more too. Also use a gallery. It cost .25 but alot of people won't even look with out a picture! Oh yeah ebay already has descriptions set up for your game. While listing just find the upc book type in the number of the upc (barcode) and it'll give ytou a description with the game make year and pictures! Go ebay!
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66'] It only cost 1.42 to send them media mail. Must peo-ple charge 5.0-0 shipping on games do it for free (1.42) and you'll make that money back easy.[/quote]

There's also delivery confirmation at another $0.55 which I think is essential for anyone selling on Ebay since Paypal requires it. All a buyer has to do is tell Paypal they never received the item, and if the seller can't prove the item was indeed delivered (with out delivery confirmattion you can't), the money gets taken out of the seller's account no questions asked.
 
I find that eBay fees total around 3-4% of the purchase price when everything is said and done (including the Paypal fee). On Half.com, the fee is 15%, plus you only get $1.79 of th $2.49 Half.com charges the buyer for shipping! I asked them about this and they said it was a processing charge. I thought it was misleading, particularly because I have buyers coming back to me to ask why I sent the item for $1.72 (first class) when "I" charged them $2.49 for shipping!

At anyrate, eBay is all about exposure. Half.com will get you consistently higher prices, but will also stick you with much higher fees.

Back to the topic though, I'm not sure if this is common knowledge, but the codes you get from Ebgames.com for the trade ins, even if they are for a particular game (Ninja Gaiden, FF XI, Halo 2, etc.) are usuable on anything. I'm pretty sure most everyone on this board knows that, but I thought I would throw it out there just in case.

And my original question, does anyone know if there are any more trade in deals such as trade in 3 and get $10 bonus credit or something?

Thanks!
 
FWIW, I just shipped a well-packed DVD, first class, for 1.52 or 1.55 [first class]. Packing material cost me about 12 cents for bubblewrap and, oh, nothing for outer material [I used a paper grocery bag turned inside out].
I do agree that on Ebay, you're more likely to get the scumbags who manipulate the system. If you're charging me 5 bucks shipping, it better be First Class, or even better, Priority Mail.
I saw one asking 7.00 shipping for a PS2 game. Come on!
And, of course, there's always this joker:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=3079686244
Arc the Lad: TotS for 1 Cent! 29.99 s/h listed in the 'shipping' section, and in the description, he says he adds ANOTHER five bucks. Total price for a .01 opening bid item--34.99. Yes, I reported him to the 'Evading Fees' support email; and if anyone knows him, tell him 'You, sir, are a scumbag.' So even with Ebay's reasonable fees, you get, well, cheapasses [in a bad way] doing crap like this. To me, the 15% on Half.com [it drops as the item's cost goes up] is worth it, for free unlimited nationwide website listing, for items that I'd get maybe five bucks credit for anywhere else.
Here's a basic list of Ebay fees: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html.
Personally, I think Ebay has gone to hell, with all the pirates and professionals and people who charge ridiculous shipping costs :(
 
Just as a side note, First Class shipping after a certain weight (I think 3 oz.) is based on distance while Media Mail is not. Example, it would cost me $1.72 to send a game to Alaska via First Class and only $1.42 via media mail. It would cost me $1.52 to send a game to Chicago, and still $1.42 via media mail.

I agree with the statement that there are more scammers on eBay. I just got scammed by a guy on eBay re: blank DVD-Rs (whitedragongroup). Don't buy TWC brand DVD-Rs, even though they're really cheap. They're poor quality and I've found over half of them to be defective (unreadable by any device - DVD recorder or DVD-R/-RW drive).
 
A lot of great advice here. I too have noticed that bundles will sometimes sell for more than you could get for the individual components. This may seem contrary to common B&M practices, but I guess people are paying for the convenience of getting everything all at once. Also, some may have the intention of re-selling the stuff in the bundle they don't want. Of course, you have to be smart about what you bundle together, like someone said.

I use the USPS Priority Mail Click-n-ship to print off labels from my computer. I charge exactly what it costs: $3.85. Delivery Confirmation is included for free, which may hopefully entice buyers, as well as giving me some evidence that the item was delivered.
 
[quote name='hwong3']Just as a side note, First Class shipping after a certain weight (I think 3 oz.) is based on distance while Media Mail is not. Example, it would cost me $1.72 to send a game to Alaska via First Class and only $1.42 via media mail. It would cost me $1.52 to send a game to Chicago, and still $1.42 via media mail.

[/quote]

This is true, but you generally get quicker delivery with First Class. I think I started mailing first class when i found that shipping something FC was like 8 cents more than MM, so I said what the heck. Since then, on Half.com, I've been adding 'Free upgrade to First Class Shipping!' as a bonus. The buyer saves a couple bucks, I have a more attractive product, and it costs less than a dime more [generally--I haven't ever had to mail something to Alaska.]

Re: bundling. That's odd--I guess people do pay a lot for the convenience, or think they'll resell some of the contents of the bundle. Unless it's something collectible/rare, I always think of paying *less* for the bundle, otherwise I'll just buy them separately for cheaper.
 
[quote name='hwong3']I agree with the statement that there are more scammers on eBay. I just got scammed by a guy on eBay re: blank DVD-Rs (whitedragongroup). Don't buy TWC brand DVD-Rs, even though they're really cheap. They're poor quality and I've found over half of them to be defective (unreadable by any device - DVD recorder or DVD-R/-RW drive).[/quote]

How is that a scam? You bought it, and its not his fault the discs are defective? I find that the majority of people on ebay are NOT scammers. Its just like any other business, you have to ask questions and be diligent in finding out who is trying to scam and who isnt. But i dont think its right to say most people ebay are scammers. Hell, you see things on dateline and such all the time of people getting scammed out of $30,000 by their general contractors, but you wouldnt label all general contractorts scammers would you?

I have been using ebay for almost 6 years now and have never been 'scammed.' I have had to back out of sales for unforeseen reasons and have had sellers back out of transactions as well, but it happens and thats what feedback is there for.
 
Here is another Ebay scammer to avoid, crowdcarclub. I won 13 comic books from in multiple auctions for a grand total of about $10. When I got his invoice, he wanted $60. He lived in San Diego, I live near LA so the distance is about 300 miles. When I asked what was up with the shipping, he knocked $10 off the price as his discount and gave me his breakdown of how he came up with the total which was ridiculous. No where did crowdcarclub include my actual winning bid totals of $10 for all items won, he just used his own cost breakdowns of what he actually paid for the items, his Ebay fees and miscellaneous other expenses. He says the comic books cost him $19, he needs to make at least $1 an auction so that is another $13 for the 13 item wins, $7.80 for listings of all the items, $1.30 for bags and boards and then $10 for shipping giving the grand total of $51.10. His email even said he bought the comic books to make money and not lose it, so I guess that means he felt okay to try to screw me.

I tried dealing with Ebay to get this issue resolved but each time I would respond to an email they would send, it would be like starting the whole process over again. I had just sold $2000 worth of stuff on Ebay at the end of December with all happy customers and crowdcarclub had decent feedback even though he had only sold about 5 items till that point. Ebay ended up giving me a Non-paying Bidder mark against me because after 5 emails with their Safe Harbor Dept with each one telling me something different, I got fed up with dealing with it all. Ebay made about $200+ off me on my listings and yet they backed the scammer for his $7 in Ebay insertion fees. If Ebay was not the online auction monopoly that it is, I would be using some other service. But Ebay knows they are the only game in town and you got to deal with it.
 
Wow an ebay thread...

Ok here's my question.

What happens if you send something and the buyer claims they did not receive it?

Who wins?

Ok now let's say you abided by the paypal seller protection policy and buyer abided by paypal buyer protection policy?

Who wins?

I know for sure PayPal won't just sit there and take the loss. haha

It seems to me the person who strikes first always wins which creates a very hostile environment.

Another thing:
You have to use the delivery confirmation from Paypal to qualify for seller protection policy right? You can't just get one from the post office. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Has anyone actually had to use the seller protection policy? Anyone know what happens?
 
[quote name='puzzlefite']Wow an ebay thread...

Ok here's my question.

What happens if you send something and the buyer claims they did not receive it?

Who wins?

Ok now let's say you abided by the paypal seller protection policy and buyer abided by paypal buyer protection policy?

Who wins?

I know for sure PayPal won't just sit there and take the loss. haha

It seems to me the person who strikes first always wins which creates a very hostile environment.

Another thing:
You have to use the delivery confirmation from Paypal to qualify for seller protection policy right? You can't just get one from the post office. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Has anyone actually had to use the seller protection policy? Anyone know what happens?[/quote]

1) That's why they have Delivery Confirmation, Signature Confirmation, Registered Mail, or you can use UPS OR FedEx tracking is included.

2) If you use one of the methods above you will win. Now if the buyer used a credit card they could go through there credit card company and get the money back which in turn even if paypal sided with you they would still try to take the funds from your account.
This is why I don't accept credit/debit cards through paypal.
 
"You have to use the delivery confirmation from Paypal to qualify for seller protection policy right? You can't just get one from the post office. Tell me if I'm wrong. "

The delivery confirmation forms are from the Post Office, not Paypal. It's a neon green form.

I really hate Paypal and have heard horror stories about people losing a lot of money because of Paypal but I think it's a neccessary evil of Ebay.

I would say 90%+ of my buyers all pay with Paypal, maybe 5-10% pay with money orders. (I started to accept Money Orders a few months ago because some people just don't use Paypal and plus there are of course no Paypal fees)
 
Actually there is a new form of confirmation called electronic delivery confirmation. E-delivery confirmation is not the same as delivery confirmation. E-delivery confirmation is free for priority and up to 13 cents for other ways to mail. The main difference is e-delivery confirmation does not show when an item is mailed. It only shows specfic transit points and if the item is delivered.

Paypal (ship with USPS with paypal funds), and click n ship have e-del cons.
The green form is normal delivery confirmation.

I'm arguing the "green form delivery confirmation" is not acceptable as qualification for seller protection policy because it does not guarantee delivery to the correct address only to the appropriate zip code. Yes that is a misconception for most people who think that delivery confirmation is proof of shipment to an address. It's not.

Someone could easily fool you by sending your item to someone else's address with the same zip code.

However by using USPS funded by paypal e-delivery confirmation it does show proof of shipment. Normal delivery confirmation does not show the actual address, but PayPal's records do. As a result, this integration technique makes it work.

Of course I've heard horror stories about people qualifing for seller protection and still getting screwed.
 
I think the best way to learn about ebay is to just browse and see what certain games go for. Another important element nobody brought up is the time of day when you set your auction. I find the late afternoon early evening time a golden time. Also when you are trying to win something set a max price that you would pay for the item and than wait for the last second to bid. if you bid days in advance you are just driving that price up on the item. One good thing about ebay is say for example the item is at $5.00 and you bid $10. the bid price doesn't automatically go up to 10 it will only go up the bid increment which is usally 25 cents or 50 cents. so the item will go up to say 5.50. Then if somebody bids over that the system will automatically bid for you. My main tactic to sum this up though is to buy at non-peak hours like the morning and late night and see at the golden hours you can do well that way.
 
threadkiller!
just kidding.
But you make good points--you can usually find better deals on auctions that end at odd hours, just like if you're selling, you should avoid doing that.
Definitely use proxy bidding, and the key to any auction, ebay or live--know the value of the item, know what you're willing to pay including shipping, and STICK TO IT. I have seen people get caught in bidding wars and end up paying twice as much as the product would cost at Best Buy brand new. And I've done the same, spend forty bucks more than I wanted to because of a bidding war in the last thirty seconds.

The DVD-R thing, I don't see as a scam, but it'd be nice if he had a return policy on defectives.
The comic book thing, okay, that is ENTIRELY a scam [or just a jerkass.]
 
And do not buy anything from China, ever.
Unless the UN invades them and introduces a thing democratic countries like to call "laws".
 
you mean people from china? or products? b/c most of our products are made in china....

and btw, i've bought things from hong kong and other countries and have never had a problem. BUT, people should definitely be aware of the piracy issue there, LOL.
 
The technique is use is "snipe and final bid" technique. Your snipe bid should not be a whole number. I'd say the majority of people on eBay bids on whole numbers. For example bid $5.02 instead of $5. If someone bids $5, you'll beat them out by 2 cents.

The final bid covers you in case you're down a couple cents after the snipe. Say again you bid $5.02 and the highest bid then jumps up to $5.20. Then you know that is the person's max bid because it did not go up my one full increment and you can bid one more time to possibly win the auction!

Currently I use a program to snipe and I don't look back twice so there's usually no final bid. hehe If you don't get a good deal then I just move on. There's usually plenty of auctions and you'll eventually win one.
 
Howdy everyone -

Re the DVDs, maybe scam was the wrong word. He promised they would be Riteks, but they ended up being his own brand (TWC) that are what he claims to be just like Riteks. When I requested an exchange, he failed to respond. I requested three times and never got a response. Turns out, others have had the same problem. It's actually not that the disks are necessarily "defective," but of such poor quality that no DVD drive can read or write to them... (so "intentionally defective" might have been a better word)...

I just wanted to warn everyone off from him (thewhitedragon) and his ebay store. He's currently under investigation by the eBay fraud department, but hasn't been suspended yet. Just keep an eye out, if the blank DVD-Rs seem too cheap to be real, they are. ;)

As for bundled eBay sales, I agree, they bring more bids. Usually its just so everyone can avoid paying $4 shipping for each game. That in and of itself is a price savings for the buyer, so everyone wins! :)

As for shipping, I find that if I pack a a new sealed game in one of the post office padded mailers, the price can be as high as $2.08. But it does get there a heck of a lot faster. I usually offer free upgrades as well on used games, for some reason they're always significantly less than new games to ship first class -- I guess that plastic wrap makes a big difference!!! (among other things of course).

And to think I started all this with the EB exclusion list... :)

BTW, anyone know if these exclusions apply in store for the new 4 for 1 promotions?
 
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