Louisiana Lawmaker proposes offering $1000 for women to get their tubes tied.

He's insane for offering such a low price, considering the amounts that can be arranged for egg donation or surrogate mothers.

That guy reeks of Santorum though.
 
Besides whether it's a good idea or not I can see this one going over well with Louisiana and the world. I'll give it a few days before we see protesters crying racism or the pro lifes going that's wrong or the religious coming up with some insane reason.
 
Margaret Sanger:
Founder of Planned Parenthood

"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.

"Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation....
On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

"The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics."
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

and it continues...
http://www.eadshome.com/MargaretSanger.htm

 
@level1online

Interesting. I mean, I knew planned parenthood was more or less an advocate of extreme methods of population control, but it's fun to learn about the real intentions of the founder...
 
I don't see the problem (other than the fact that it's a horribly wasteful government program). No one is forcing anyone to take up the offer.
 
I do. There's going to be so many women in the poor working class who may have never had plans on having this operation done before, take up the offer since they really need the cash.
It's kind of like how the Army and Marines gets a portion of its recruits.
 
Good golly, Miss Molly! Are people incapable of looking up their quotes before they C&P them?
[quote name='level1online']
"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.
[/quote]Real quote, really out of context.
[quote name='level1online'] "Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.
[/quote]Real quote, though I am unsure of the context. Might Google it later.
[quote name='level1online'] "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.
[/quote]I'll get back to you on that one. I know she's written things similar - albeit not as blatantly HOLY SHIT! - to that, but not that specifically.
[quote name='level1online'] "Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.
[/quote]Wikiquotes says no.
[quote name='level1online'] "Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.[/quote]Real.
[quote name='level1online'] As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation....
On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.
[/quote]Real.
[quote name='level1online'] "The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics."
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.[/quote]Real.

One final Sanger quote, with a little bit-a bolding from me: "The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics..."Recognize this so far? It continues, "We are convinced that racial regeneration, like individual regeneration, must come 'from within.' That is, it must be autonomous, self-directive, and not imposed from without."
...
No, that's too warm and fuzzy a way to end. Let's try this: "The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind."
 
If you were going to do something stupid like that, wouldn't it make more sense to pay men to get a vasectomy? They're capable of creating more babies and the operation is much less invasive and dangerous. But no, of course not, control the women...

Btw, I think that was the sleaziest looking, most thinly veiled racist guy I've ever seen on TV (although I admittedly don't watch too much TV).
 
[quote name='level1online']
Margaret Sanger:
Founder of Planned Parenthood

"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.

"Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation....
On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

"The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics."
Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

and it continues...
http://www.eadshome.com/MargaretSanger.htm

[/quote]

I like how you included the dates, but apparently failed to analyze their significance. I'll help you out a bit: They're important.
 
Interesting.

Things I learned of interest:

  • The film claims that the leaders of Eugenics founded the environmental and conservation movements, which is something I always suspected.
  • The Club of Rome advocated Environmentalism as the best front to implement population reduction. "Western populations would accept serfdom, if it is packaged as saving the Earth". "Citizens would be more likely to give up sovereignty if it is concocted as 'saving the planet'".
  • Aldous Huxley predicted that the world would be governed by a "Scientific Dictatorship" decades ago.
 
Jesus, if you're that paranoid then the people who are trying to control you could come from any place at any time.

The environmentalists want to enslave us as serfs, the anti-environmentalists want to enslave us as industrial workers.

The socialists want to enslave us as dependents on the state, the capitalists want to enslave us as dependents on huge, monopolistic corporations.

The scientists want to control us through eugenics, the religious leaders want to control us through dogma and fear.

Christ, why don't you guys just kill yourselves already? You obviously can't believe in or do anything or else you've given up your freedom and are under control by some megalomaniacal dictator. fucking socialists, capitalists, anarchists, theists, atheists, environmentalists, industrialists, scientists, preachers, Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives and anybody else with any kind of ideology are only out to take your freedom and use you as slave labor.
 
[quote name='SpazX']

Christ, why don't you guys just kill yourselves already? You obviously can't believe in or do anything or else you've given up your freedom and are under control by some megalomaniacal dictator. fucking socialists, capitalists, anarchists, theists, atheists, environmentalists, industrialists, scientists, preachers, Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives and anybody else with any kind of ideology are only out to take your freedom and use you as slave labor.[/QUOTE]

Hm. The mistake you are making is assuming most of those things you listed are all separate orgs with separate conspiracies to enslave humanity. For sake of living a simplistic happy life, it's easy to group almost all of them into the same category: distractions.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Interesting.

Things I learned of interest:

  • The film claims that the leaders of Eugenics founded the environmental and conservation movements, which is something I always suspected.
  • The Club of Rome advocated Environmentalism as the best front to implement population reduction. "Western populations would accept serfdom, if it is packaged as saving the Earth". "Citizens would be more likely to give up sovereignty if it is concocted as 'saving the planet'".
  • Aldous Huxley predicted that the world would be governed by a "Scientific Dictatorship" decades ago.
[/quote]

Hey man, thanks for checking out those clips.
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']I do. There's going to be so many women in the poor working class who may have never had plans on having this operation done before, take up the offer since they really need the cash.[/QUOTE]
Still not seeing the problem here.
 
[quote name='Zing']Still not seeing the problem here.[/QUOTE]
Can you explain this more? Such as your opinion to why it wouldn't be a conflict of interest.
 
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