Lumines = 1900 pts?

[quote name='doubledown']Honestly, what are they changing in Lumines 2 though? I mean it's like Tetris, you can only do so much before they screw it up.

Also, how many CAG's pay $20 for 1600 points? I got mine for $12-$15 usually....so, it's a little cheaper.

I will probably get since I have about 6300 points still.[/QUOTE]

You're right, I only pay about $8 out-of-pocket for 1600 points - but then, I'd only pay about $12 for Lumines 2, so....

And I don't know what they're changing, honestly. I probably won't get ANY new Lumines this year, but I would have gotten the XBLA version if it had been cheaper. I'd just rather have the full sequel & actual disk for that little of a price difference - when I do get around to picking up another Lumines.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']And people are surprised, why? This is Microsoft. Sony will do the same thing, as will Nintendo if they go beyond just old emulated games (and even if not, they may figure out a way to do it).

Not saying I support it, because I sure as hell don't.

Might buy it for the base game since I don't own a PSP, but I'm not interested in being milked. If they wanted 25 bucks they should have charged 25 bucks, not dick people around with mandatory-if-you-want-to-play add ons.[/QUOTE]
does msft set the cost, or does the developer. How much was lumines when it came out on the psp. I would imagine they see the shit costing more, as it sold well on the psp at launch at a higher cost.
 
[quote name='Kendal']I can buy Lumines on the PSP for $20, $15 at Best Buy. It should be no more than 800 points. It is just the same old bullshit game from the PSP, but bigger.[/QUOTE]

But are those in HD??? Now that is the real question here.
 
1. It's only mission and CPU vs, based on playtime with the PSP version you might not play it much. I stuck to the normal mode more than anything.
2. What if it's just asking you to buy content for new songs to go with the other levels? Ex. you can go on with level Y, but you'll be hearing music X for the rest of the game.
3. This is a whole new game music wise, it's an agreement with Warner music.
4. Though it's unfair that it's a download only game, Lumines 2 is coming out on PSP for $30.
 
[quote name='spoo']Why not say after the first "x" amount of levels? Knee-deep isn't the best adjective to be used. I know what the word "knee-deep" means but it isn't discribing what "knee-deep" means in Lumines. I want to know what the "VS CPU Pack" is because just saying you will need it when you are "knee-deep" is not explaining anything.

Puzzle/Mission Pack:


Here they do it again. "On a roll," what the hell does that mean? Gaming Bits seems to be putting a negative spin on something as simple as optional mission packs. Will the optional content be out on day one? Will you need the packs to beat the game? And yes before Roufuss comes in and tells me the definition of "on a roll" of course I know what it means. You are missing the point...[/QUOTE]

Where you are missing the point is that these aren't "optional" mission packs... it's more akin to being on level 5 out of 20, and being greeted with a message that you need to pay more points to play the rest of the game, so yea, you'll need the packs to beat the game, essentially.

The VS CPU Pack is for the mode against the CPU, apparently at some level out of the total levels you will have to "buy" the rest of the mode to finish the VS CPU mode.

It's like paying 1200 points for a demo and paying extra points to unlock the "full" game.
 
I don't even know what Lumines plays like... I guess I should watch some PSP videos so I have an idea.
 
Really really horrible....but we are going to get even more screwed in the future....anyone else notice that they make these little announcements and then another and then another....they drop little bombs spread out over a period of time so that not too many people make a sound. You can't even predict how bad it is going to be two years from now....the days of "cheap" or "free" gaming are over....we are headed towards a time when all games will be pay per play...as soon as broadband is widespread enough that digital distrobution is seamless you will pay for every second you play...they are just getting you ready with these little outrages.
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']I'd like to know where are the people that scream out that MS wouldn't nickel and dime people when that topic is brought up, as its clearly what they're doing.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't consider this nickel and dime-ing us. Any sort of that arguement can easily be silenced by saying "Hey, if you're a fan...you'll buy it. If you're not a fan, don't buy it."

Puzzle mode and Vs. Computer should have been removed, the price lowered to 800 points then later asked for the two modes.

But then we'd have a thread bitching about them asking for additional points for downloadable content that should have been included with the retail release.

Personally, I'm not buying it. Zero interest in it.
 
[quote name='HumanSnatcher']I'd like to know where are the people that scream out that MS wouldn't nickel and dime people when that topic is brought up, as its clearly what they're doing.

And as much as I know I'll probably get flamed but, "I told you so"...[/quote]
Me and HumanSnatcher were the only ones in the last topic who said that M$ would do this. And we were right! Ha!

This is akin to buying a mutliple-disc cd and when you initially purchase it you can only hear the first disc (but not full songs), more points ($) gets you the full songs, and even more money will get you the other discs.

anyway.... where's VanillaGorilla to say that this is actually not bad?
 
[quote name='Rozz']Me and HumanSnatcher were the only ones in the last topic who said that M$ would do this. And we were right! Ha!

This is akin to buying a mutliple-disc cd and when you initially purchase it you can only hear the first disc (but not full songs), more points ($) gets you the full songs, and even more money will get you the other discs.

anyway.... where's VanillaGorilla to say that this is actually not bad?[/quote]

Put me in the club that predicted M$oft would perfect the art of nickel and diming gaming customers.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104717&referrerid=7607

That's how a corporation works, and so far they haven't done anything that's as dishonest and monopolistic as their OS business so I suppose we should be happy. However of the big 3, M$oft is the most hostile towards the thrifty gamer.

LoL @the VanillaGorilla comment, so true.
 
[quote name='PyroXmonk3y']Why does everyone complain about them releasing an arcade game that is over $5?? When Lumines came out it was $50 new on the PSP, but you didn't see anyone complaining about it. Now they are releasing a sequel for $20, thats a good deal. When Tetris DS came out for $35, hundreds of thousands of ppl bought that game, yet its how many years old? And no one complained either. Yet if it was released for the XLA ppl would bitch constantly on how its 10+ years old and you can emulate it for free. People need to quit thinking of XLA games as not actual games and something to pass the time, and treat them as actual games.[/QUOTE]Lumines was never a $50 game on PSP. It was a $40 game. However, what hurts the value of the game on XBL now, is that the PSP version has been out for almost 1.5 years and it's down to $20 now.
 
The important question is can I play the vs LIVE mode and can I get all 200 nerd points without buying these add ons? :)

We're seeing a lot of different pricing things with XBLA and XBLM recently, and I think it's all just experimental. A lot of these things will work now, because the market isn't really oversaturated. Another year down the road and I think there will be enough choices that people won't feel as tempted to buy things they don't feel positively about as far as price for product goes. What's going to ultimately determine how all of these things level out out is what the bottem line turns out to be for the companies. Did Ubisoft sell as many Chapter 2 DL's for GRAW as they wanted? I don't know... If they did, then you can probably bet on a similarly priced add on for RS:Vegas. If they think they could've done better then maybe you'll see an 800 point add on.

It's up to us as the consumers to help dictate how things go. Complaining in a forum accomplishes nothing. Drop a note to MS saying that you're dissappointed with the price and won't be purchasing Lumines, and then stick to your word. Or buy it and let them know that you don't mind. Personally I love puzzle games and have never played Lumines. If I love the demo and think I'll get my money worth out of the core game, I'll probably pay the 1200 points. The add ons will probably not get purchased by me regardless because I don't really like the idea of games being broke into peices and sold back to me in chunks.
 
for people saying well Lumines is $ $40 when it first came out or Lumines 2 is $30, the PS2 Lumines Plus will be $20 on a DVD. This is probably the beginning of a bad trend of small games being release in Live instead of physical copy.
 
Let's face it, it's a great deal for devs... If you just made a game and could sell it for $40 and gross, let's say $15 after production and costs associated with a physical copy; or sell it for $20 directly and still gross the same amount, which would you do? Well if you add in small devs who don't necessarily have the means of large production, and the fact that one of gaming publishers biggest money loss is the resale market, it's a no brainer.

We've all heard the rumor's of Sony's copyright ideas for the future. The bottom line is that resale is bad for the devs and distributors who don't see a penny from it and may be losing an actual sale in the process. Every time someone says "this sucks more because I can't even resell it", you can bet you are not posing an argument that's likely to make distributors change their minds...
 
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