Madden 12 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-Week 3 live. Deadline Monday night.
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LVPatriots
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[quote name='BSETI50']It shud be odom and tamme for dockett and a third[/QUOTE]
Yea, thats fine.
Yea, thats fine.
Why wasn't that decision announced? It is bull shit either way, I know two of us offered to run the team for the rest of the year, one with a good record and one with a shitty one.
Random subs could've been avoided, so could've CPU games. Not announcing it is even worse...unless I just missed it.
Random subs could've been avoided, so could've CPU games. Not announcing it is even worse...unless I just missed it.
LVPatriots
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[quote name='staticz']Why wasn't that decision announced? It is bull shit either way, I know two of us offered to run the team for the rest of the year, one with a good record and one with a shitty one.
Random subs could've been avoided, so could've CPU games. Not announcing it is even worse...unless I just missed it.[/QUOTE]
About the Bills being played by the CPU
I agree with Staticz, Huge Wild Card Implications, the decision can't be made by the three players in the division. Even if 2/3 are commissioners.
I never heard about it.
Who can't beat the CPU?
Random subs could've been avoided, so could've CPU games. Not announcing it is even worse...unless I just missed it.[/QUOTE]
About the Bills being played by the CPU
I agree with Staticz, Huge Wild Card Implications, the decision can't be made by the three players in the division. Even if 2/3 are commissioners.
I never heard about it.
Who can't beat the CPU?
gbpackers94
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Yeah I would have liked to Know about it at least.
LVPatriots
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For the record and for full disclosure, this was not my original idea but I do agree it's best. I felt a bit lame playing the CPU but that was the consensus.[/QUOTE]
Definately best for the AFC East. Terrible for any other Wild Card teams outside of that division. (Which i am not one of).
Definately best for the AFC East. Terrible for any other Wild Card teams outside of that division. (Which i am not one of).
siradam134
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Let's take a look at the Bills schedule. Including the Jets Game.
@Jets (4-6).............. Not much chance at a wildcard spot now
Giants (8-2).............. Giants have locked up their Division.
@Chiefs (9-0)............ Chiefs have locked up their Division.
@Dolphins (4-6) ..........Not much chance at a wildcard spot now
@Cowboys (2-7)..........Let's face it. not making the playoffs.
@Broncos (2-7) ...........Let's face it. not making the playoffs.
Patriots (5-4) ..............All But locked up the Division.
How exactly does this mean "Huge Wild Card Implications" ????
edit: This isn't like the 3 of us just said "
the league, let's get 3 cpu wins. " We actually talked about this, looked at their schedule, and realized that it doesn't hurt if we make them a cpu team going forward.
@Jets (4-6).............. Not much chance at a wildcard spot now
Giants (8-2).............. Giants have locked up their Division.
@Chiefs (9-0)............ Chiefs have locked up their Division.
@Dolphins (4-6) ..........Not much chance at a wildcard spot now
@Cowboys (2-7)..........Let's face it. not making the playoffs.
@Broncos (2-7) ...........Let's face it. not making the playoffs.
Patriots (5-4) ..............All But locked up the Division.
How exactly does this mean "Huge Wild Card Implications" ????
edit: This isn't like the 3 of us just said "
the league, let's get 3 cpu wins. " We actually talked about this, looked at their schedule, and realized that it doesn't hurt if we make them a cpu team going forward.
[quote name='staticz']Why wasn't that decision announced?[/QUOTE]
No idea. It certainly should have been.
[quote name='staticz']It is bull shit either way, I know two of us offered to run the team for the rest of the year, one with a good record and one with a shitty one.
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That was not a viable solution, especially if an owner was found later. It was either fill the team now (we haven't had any interest) or wait until the end of the season.
[quote name='LVPatriots']Huge Wild Card Implications[/QUOTE]
Explain these Huge Implications. No one in this division is in the wild card hunt. If they were, perhaps one game would make a difference, but they're not. Look at the schedule, the Bills really don't have any games of importance left.
In the interest of full disclosure, not filling the Bills was originally my idea. Obviously I didn't intend for that to happen without it first being announced in the thread first, and that definitely makes it look more shady that it is (which is not at all).
Let's not make a tempest in a teapot though.
No idea. It certainly should have been.
[quote name='staticz']It is bull shit either way, I know two of us offered to run the team for the rest of the year, one with a good record and one with a shitty one.
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That was not a viable solution, especially if an owner was found later. It was either fill the team now (we haven't had any interest) or wait until the end of the season.
[quote name='LVPatriots']Huge Wild Card Implications[/QUOTE]
Explain these Huge Implications. No one in this division is in the wild card hunt. If they were, perhaps one game would make a difference, but they're not. Look at the schedule, the Bills really don't have any games of importance left.
In the interest of full disclosure, not filling the Bills was originally my idea. Obviously I didn't intend for that to happen without it first being announced in the thread first, and that definitely makes it look more shady that it is (which is not at all).
Let's not make a tempest in a teapot though.
LVPatriots
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Well the Jets, Pats and Dolphins getting an automatic win has implications on the wild card. Perhaps using the word Huge was wrong.
I imagine if any of you win out, you will be in the Wild Card race. And getting a free win would factor into that.
If I i should have checked the facts and it is impossible for this to have any bearing on anything. I apologize. Carry on
Also the fact that the other teams which play the Bills had absolutely no say, and wouldn't have known until it was time to play, seems a bit unfair.
I imagine if any of you win out, you will be in the Wild Card race. And getting a free win would factor into that.
If I i should have checked the facts and it is impossible for this to have any bearing on anything. I apologize. Carry on
Also the fact that the other teams which play the Bills had absolutely no say, and wouldn't have known until it was time to play, seems a bit unfair.
[quote name='LVPatriots']Well the Jets, Pats and Dolphins getting an automatic win has implications on the wild card. Perhaps using the word Huge was wrong.
I imagine if any of you win out, you will be in the Wild Card race. And getting a free win would factor into that.
If I i should have checked the facts and it is impossible for this to have any bearing on anything. I apologize. Carry on[/QUOTE]
It's not impossible, just very unlikely. Obviously it doesn't affect the division race at all. I think even winning out, it's unlikely either the Dolphins or Jets would get a WC spot.
The major concern was if one or two of us play a shitty sub, and then suddenly we get some Doom-level guy coming in and taking over the team and beating the other one. Since we each had 1 game left against the Bills (and they don't have any other games with playoff indications), this was the time to decide what to do with them.
I absolutely think it's the best way to handle it, the mistake was ubernes playing the game before we'd discussed it in the thread. Not the way I would have handled it, but it's not the end of the world, let's not crucify him for it.
[quote name='LVPatriots']
Also the fact that the other teams which play the Bills had absolutely no say, and wouldn't have known until it was time to play, seems a bit unfair.[/QUOTE]
It was never intended to be a secret...
I imagine if any of you win out, you will be in the Wild Card race. And getting a free win would factor into that.
If I i should have checked the facts and it is impossible for this to have any bearing on anything. I apologize. Carry on[/QUOTE]
It's not impossible, just very unlikely. Obviously it doesn't affect the division race at all. I think even winning out, it's unlikely either the Dolphins or Jets would get a WC spot.
The major concern was if one or two of us play a shitty sub, and then suddenly we get some Doom-level guy coming in and taking over the team and beating the other one. Since we each had 1 game left against the Bills (and they don't have any other games with playoff indications), this was the time to decide what to do with them.
I absolutely think it's the best way to handle it, the mistake was ubernes playing the game before we'd discussed it in the thread. Not the way I would have handled it, but it's not the end of the world, let's not crucify him for it.
[quote name='LVPatriots']
Also the fact that the other teams which play the Bills had absolutely no say, and wouldn't have known until it was time to play, seems a bit unfair.[/QUOTE]
It was never intended to be a secret...
LVPatriots
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Obviously you guys thought long and hard about this, and as far as the AFC east is concerened, it does make the most sense. (Although don't we always match records with subs in this league?)
It just seemed like a very out of the ordinary thing to be happening, so I had to give my two cents.
It just seemed like a very out of the ordinary thing to be happening, so I had to give my two cents.
[quote name='staticz']I'm not sure how a permenant fill in isn't viable, but ok. It would've solved the problem, instead it was decided to play the CPU...same difference.[/QUOTE]
Well we don't typically give people two teams over the course of a season. This is one less game to schedule a week, it's easier. If you're talking about finding the shittiest sub in the league, they're still likely to lose every one of those games. And if they didn't, well they probably weren't crappy enough to be filling in for a 1-8 team to begin with.
[quote name='staticz']
what is the plan when an owner is found at all? Things aren't looking real promising.[/QUOTE]
We'll find an owner in the offseason. They're likely to have a top 3 pick, so I'm sure we'll be able to find someone interested.
Well we don't typically give people two teams over the course of a season. This is one less game to schedule a week, it's easier. If you're talking about finding the shittiest sub in the league, they're still likely to lose every one of those games. And if they didn't, well they probably weren't crappy enough to be filling in for a 1-8 team to begin with.
[quote name='staticz']
what is the plan when an owner is found at all? Things aren't looking real promising.[/QUOTE]
We'll find an owner in the offseason. They're likely to have a top 3 pick, so I'm sure we'll be able to find someone interested.
If the Bills had even a single game left which was likely to impact things outside of the AFC East, this would be a different discussion.
If at the end of the year one of the AFC East teams eeks out a wild card spot over another team by 1 game, then maybe this will look different, but that's a highly unlikely scenario at this point. Even then, you need to combine the odds of that happening with the odds that the Jets/Dolphins wouldn't have won those games anyway (which they likely would have given record-appropriate subs).
In any case, the big deal was that it wasn't announced/discussed first. Obviously that could/should have been handled better, but that ship has sailed at this point.
If at the end of the year one of the AFC East teams eeks out a wild card spot over another team by 1 game, then maybe this will look different, but that's a highly unlikely scenario at this point. Even then, you need to combine the odds of that happening with the odds that the Jets/Dolphins wouldn't have won those games anyway (which they likely would have given record-appropriate subs).
In any case, the big deal was that it wasn't announced/discussed first. Obviously that could/should have been handled better, but that ship has sailed at this point.
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In any case, the big deal was that it wasn't announced/discussed first. Obviously that could/should have been handled better, but that ship has sailed at this point.[/QUOTE]
Yep.
I don't agree with it and it will have draft implications, but there isn't a real cut and dry solution. The ship has sailed as you say and it probably contained the best version of the possible cargo
In any case, the big deal was that it wasn't announced/discussed first. Obviously that could/should have been handled better, but that ship has sailed at this point.[/QUOTE]
Yep.
I don't agree with it and it will have draft implications, but there isn't a real cut and dry solution. The ship has sailed as you say and it probably contained the best version of the possible cargo
LVPatriots
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The Odom/Tamme/Dockett/Heap trade got lost in the shuffle, I believe the last suggestion was
Odom/Tamme
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Dockett/3rd rounder....Any thoughts on that?
I didn't mean to bitch about the Bills, just the way Uber first through it out there we didn't have any of the information on their schedule that we have now.
Odom/Tamme
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Dockett/3rd rounder....Any thoughts on that?
I didn't mean to bitch about the Bills, just the way Uber first through it out there we didn't have any of the information on their schedule that we have now.
Og whitewidow
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I just got embarrassed by deuce.
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I didn't mean to bitch about the Bills, just the way Uber first through it out there we didn't have any of the information on their schedule that we have now.[/QUOTE]
Bitching is what we do here.
If you guys want to discuss it more, that's fine. We can revisit it if people really think it's unfair, but I think the biggest offshoot is that we just have egg on our faces for not announcing it first and looking like we were trying to slip one by in the process.
Anyway, any league business on my end will need to wait until this evening, I'm off to hang out with LV's mom. :lol:
I didn't mean to bitch about the Bills, just the way Uber first through it out there we didn't have any of the information on their schedule that we have now.[/QUOTE]
Bitching is what we do here.
If you guys want to discuss it more, that's fine. We can revisit it if people really think it's unfair, but I think the biggest offshoot is that we just have egg on our faces for not announcing it first and looking like we were trying to slip one by in the process.
Anyway, any league business on my end will need to wait until this evening, I'm off to hang out with LV's mom. :lol:
sprice8688
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i understand u guys run the league and i love bein a part of this league but u 3 made a agreement to play the cpu without mentioning it wether its playoff related or not is some bull shit.... how is that not something to put around the league for our thoughts.... if we advanced and i decided to just play a cpu team ud have a problam with it.... id get a strike or booted.... not that long ago the bills owner was booted cause of that shit.... none of us get that option to play the cpu.... id rather u play someone who has 1 or no wins then from wut it looks like making up ur own rules
LVPatriots
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Roger Maris asterisk? Did Bonds get one two?
damailman2272
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[quote name='Doomtime']Keep in mind if you're a player who is worried about awards and you want to stat pad against the Bills, I probably won't count those or will just give you a Barry Bonds asterisk.[/QUOTE]
barry didnt do it
barry didnt do it
sprice8688
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[quote name='Doomtime']Keep in mind if you're a player who is worried about awards and you want to stat pad against the Bills, I probably won't count those or will just give you a Barry Bonds asterisk.[/QUOTE]
mark sanchez 422 yrds 5 tds!
mark sanchez 422 yrds 5 tds!
siradam134
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[quote name='sprice8688']mark sanchez 422 yrds 5 tds![/QUOTE]
great. so now we're witch-hunting.
Shall BV and i justing lose to the cpu to appease the masses?
great. so now we're witch-hunting.
Shall BV and i just
ing lose to the cpu to appease the masses?
Deuce20602
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[quote name='Og whitewidow']I just got embarrassed by deuce.[/QUOTE]
it was only 20-3... the important thing to take away from that game is.... the Panthers are at .500 for the first time since week 1
it was only 20-3... the important thing to take away from that game is.... the Panthers are at .500 for the first time since week 1
damailman2272
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[quote name='Doomtime']Whether he knew or not, I can't say. Definitely a user though.[/QUOTE]
he was only found guilty of obstruction of justice never proven a user and he is appealing it
he was only found guilty of obstruction of justice never proven a user and he is appealing it
[quote name='damailman2272']he was only found guilty of obstruction of justice never proven a user and he is appealing it[/QUOTE]
I'm glad he's not serving time, but he'll forever be linked, especially with those numbers in that era.
Anyway, a long debate for another time
I'm glad he's not serving time, but he'll forever be linked, especially with those numbers in that era.
Anyway, a long debate for another time
[quote name='siradam134']great. so now we're witch-hunting.
Shall BV and i justing lose to the cpu to appease the masses?[/QUOTE]
No, you should play a comparable sub to appease the masses. I don't think the other guys are going to let this one go.
DVO and HotItlstln always offer to sub. There's also superstar and tanabeo. I'm sure 1 of those 4 wouldn't mind filling in
Shall BV and i just
ing lose to the cpu to appease the masses?[/QUOTE]No, you should play a comparable sub to appease the masses. I don't think the other guys are going to let this one go.
DVO and HotItlstln always offer to sub. There's also superstar and tanabeo. I'm sure 1 of those 4 wouldn't mind filling in
sprice8688
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[quote name='Doomtime']No, you should play a comparable sub to appease the masses. I don't think the other guys are going to let this one go.
DVO and HotItlstln always offer to sub. There's also superstar and tanabeo. I'm sure 1 of those 4 wouldn't mind filling in[/QUOTE]
unless u guys prefer to play the comp u sissys
DVO and HotItlstln always offer to sub. There's also superstar and tanabeo. I'm sure 1 of those 4 wouldn't mind filling in[/QUOTE]
unless u guys prefer to play the comp u sissys
sprice8688
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[quote name='bvharris']Uber definitely screwed up by playing the CPU before it was discussed in the thread, that much nobody disagrees with.
That's over and done with now though, let's not make mountains out of molehills.[/QUOTE]
wat bothers me the most is anybody else everyone would be throwing a fit but because its you guys no big deal... if superstar decides to leavr ill have a discussion within my devision on wether we play the cpu or get a sub it makes sense for playoff purposes... cause thats ok to do right... ahhh no its not cause i dont run this league...
That's over and done with now though, let's not make mountains out of molehills.[/QUOTE]
wat bothers me the most is anybody else everyone would be throwing a fit but because its you guys no big deal... if superstar decides to leavr ill have a discussion within my devision on wether we play the cpu or get a sub it makes sense for playoff purposes... cause thats ok to do right... ahhh no its not cause i dont run this league...
[quote name='siradam134']Let's take a look at the Bills schedule. Including the Jets Game.
@Jets (4-6).............. Not much chance at a wildcard spot now
Giants (8-2).............. Giants have locked up their Division.
@Chiefs (9-0)............ Chiefs have locked up their Division.
@Dolphins (4-6) ..........Not much chance at a wildcard spot now
@Cowboys (2-7)..........Let's face it. not making the playoffs.
@Broncos (2-7) ...........Let's face it. not making the playoffs.
Patriots (5-4) ..............All But locked up the Division.
How exactly does this mean "Huge Wild Card Implications" ????
edit: This isn't like the 3 of us just said " the league, let's get 3 cpu wins. " We actually talked about this, looked at their schedule, and realized that it doesn't hurt if we make them a cpu team going forward.[/QUOTE]
As per usual, thank you for the breakdown. There's 0 playoff implications in the remainder of the Bills games.
@Jets (4-6).............. Not much chance at a wildcard spot now
Giants (8-2).............. Giants have locked up their Division.
@Chiefs (9-0)............ Chiefs have locked up their Division.
@Dolphins (4-6) ..........Not much chance at a wildcard spot now
@Cowboys (2-7)..........Let's face it. not making the playoffs.
@Broncos (2-7) ...........Let's face it. not making the playoffs.
Patriots (5-4) ..............All But locked up the Division.
How exactly does this mean "Huge Wild Card Implications" ????
edit: This isn't like the 3 of us just said "
the league, let's get 3 cpu wins. " We actually talked about this, looked at their schedule, and realized that it doesn't hurt if we make them a cpu team going forward.[/QUOTE]As per usual, thank you for the breakdown. There's 0 playoff implications in the remainder of the Bills games.
siradam134
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FFS. it has nothing to do with the playoffs. can you not open your eyes and see that we were attempting to make the road smooth (BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS) Requiring one person to play extra games each week would only put a strain on someone in the 1/2 win range (and possibly cause them to quit the league?)....
you'd have aing leg to stand on if we did this to "get a leg up" in the playoff race.
We didn't.
Cheers to blowing shit up bigger than it needs to be.
you'd have a
ing leg to stand on if we did this to "get a leg up" in the playoff race.We didn't.
Cheers to blowing shit up bigger than it needs to be.
siradam134
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[quote name='Doomtime']I'm not worried about playoff implications just awards at the end of the year. Same thing happened last year when zurezo blasted the cpu 70-7 and Mike Wallace had 3 million yards receiving.
So if you play the Bills, let's try to avoid that folks.[/QUOTE]
planning on losing. don't worry. too much bullshit involved to risk a win.
So if you play the Bills, let's try to avoid that folks.[/QUOTE]
planning on losing. don't worry. too much bullshit involved to risk a win.
[quote name='Doomtime']I'm not worried about playoff implications just awards at the end of the year. Same thing happened last year when zurezo blasted the cpu 70-7 and Mike Wallace had 3 million yards receiving.
So if you play the Bills, let's try to avoid that folks.[/QUOTE]
That's fine. If that's the biggest implication I'm not too worried.
So if you play the Bills, let's try to avoid that folks.[/QUOTE]
That's fine. If that's the biggest implication I'm not too worried.
LVPatriots
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[quote name='siradam134']planning on losing. don't worry. too much bullshit involved to risk a win.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying that you 3 didn't expect this sh*t storm of thread activity when the Bills thing was brought up?
Can't imagine the Vegas odds on that not happening with this thread.
Are you saying that you 3 didn't expect this sh*t storm of thread activity when the Bills thing was brought up?
Can't imagine the Vegas odds on that not happening with this thread.
[quote name='LVPatriots']Are you saying that you 3 didn't expect this sh*t storm of thread activity when the Bills thing was brought up?
Can't imagine the Vegas odds on that not happening with this thread.[/QUOTE]
Nope, fully expected it. I figured we would have the discussion before it actually happened. Too late for that now though haha
Can't imagine the Vegas odds on that not happening with this thread.[/QUOTE]
Nope, fully expected it. I figured we would have the discussion before it actually happened. Too late for that now though haha
LVPatriots
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Yea, but you didn't say you were planning on losing because of the Bullshit BV.
So, I was curious why fero wants to do it at all. If he can't take the criticism from the thread.
So, I was curious why fero wants to do it at all. If he can't take the criticism from the thread.
LVPatriots
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On a completely unrelated topic, as a new player I am curious.
How does the league deal with team distribution for Madden 13?
How does the league deal with team distribution for Madden 13?
Since the 49ers owner has missed 3 games, he should be booted according to rule 2. Also, so that we don't mess up the integrity of the NFC West I would like to ask that everyone play their last games against the CPU....
Here is what I don't understand, both commissioners take themselves out of trade talks if they are involved. Why is this decision different?
Here is what I don't understand, both commissioners take themselves out of trade talks if they are involved. Why is this decision different?
sprice8688
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[quote name='bvharris']Thank god for that at least[/QUOTE]
not really sure wat this means lol ur suggesting its good i dont run the league because im upset u guys made an agreenent to play the comp without saying anythin u already agreed to that... its not blowing it out if proportion dick i want the league to move as fast as everyone else ... if u at least attempted on here to get a sub before playing the comp okay but playing ur game as soon as u advance the league is dumb... we would have a bills owner if u all didnt kick him out for this very same thing... its not fair
not really sure wat this means lol ur suggesting its good i dont run the league because im upset u guys made an agreenent to play the comp without saying anythin u already agreed to that... its not blowing it out if proportion dick i want the league to move as fast as everyone else ... if u at least attempted on here to get a sub before playing the comp okay but playing ur game as soon as u advance the league is dumb... we would have a bills owner if u all didnt kick him out for this very same thing... its not fair
sprice8688
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[quote name='staticz']Since the 49ers owner has missed 3 games, he should be booted according to rule 2. Also, so that we don't mess up the integrity of the NFC West I would like to ask that everyone play their last games against the CPU....
Here is what I don't understand, both commissioners take themselves out of trade talks if they are involved. Why is this decision different?[/QUOTE]
im just glad someone sees where im coming from.... somehow ive been turned into the bad guy here
Here is what I don't understand, both commissioners take themselves out of trade talks if they are involved. Why is this decision different?[/QUOTE]
im just glad someone sees where im coming from.... somehow ive been turned into the bad guy here
Not every situation needs a bad guy. Uber made a mistake playing the game before we announced in the thread what was going on. If anyone doesn't think all the hard work he's done over the years for this league earn him the benefit of the doubt or you guys cutting him a little damned slack here, I really don't know what to tell you.
I didn't even want to play the CPU. So it's hard for me to give a about all this bickering for something I didn't want to do, or even care about. Especially since it plays absolutely has no effect on literally ANYTHING.
I didn't play the game as soon as I advanced. I busted my ass home from a train ride, advanced, finally had a chance to catch my breath, talk to my parents, eat dinner, play Deuce in the tournament and then I confirmed with bv and siradam, 'hey am I really playing the CPU this week? feels weird.' and then once that was okayed I did it.
about all this bickering for something I didn't want to do, or even care about. Especially since it plays absolutely has no effect on literally ANYTHING. I didn't play the game as soon as I advanced. I busted my ass home from a train ride, advanced, finally had a chance to catch my breath, talk to my parents, eat dinner, play Deuce in the tournament and then I confirmed with bv and siradam, 'hey am I really playing the CPU this week? feels weird.' and then once that was okayed I did it.
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