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I think that's more indicative of the person's skill level than some game imbalance. There's no skill involved with sneaking on 3rd/4th and short.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Well rushing for one. No one averages 10 yards per game.[/QUOTE]

True, but everyone in this league is capable of stopping the run if they put the time into a scheme.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I assume you mean per carry.

If you've got a solution for that, I am ALL ears.[/QUOTE]

I know we can't do anything about it, but if there's no way to stop that then why are we banning qb sneaks for the same reason. Plus they arent unstoppable. My friend stopped me 4 straight times on 4th and goal at the 1. I don't know how he did it but its possible.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']I know we can't do anything about it, but if there's no way to stop that then why are we banning qb sneaks for the same reason.[/QUOTE]

There is a way to control the running game. Plenty of owners in this league play good run D. It just takes skill to stop it, as Doom says.

Not sure why you're fighting this battle.. Slow day? :D
 
[quote name='bvharris']There is a way to control the running game. Plenty of owners in this league play good run D. It just takes skill to stop it, as Doom says.

Not sure why you're fighting this battle.. Slow day? :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah haha. But in 2 seasons Charles has only had under 100 yards 6 times. Im sure that is more unrealistic than the qb sneak percentage. If you are wondering why I'm arguing, take a look at the last page... People just basically said that people who do qb sneaks are gaming the system and uncreative. Come on now.
 
TRADE ALERT

Jaguars send
Matt Schaub overall 87 age 33 pot A
and 3rd round pick

for
Titans 1st round pick
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Yeah haha. But in 2 seasons Charles has only had under 100 yards 6 times. [/QUOTE]

I've held the Chiefs under 100 yards rushing twice, I'll happily give you some pointers. ;)

Can't give you any pointers on actually converting that into beating him though. :(
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Yeah haha. But in 2 seasons Charles has only had under 100 yards 6 times. Im sure that is more unrealistic than the qb sneak percentage. If you are wondering why I'm arguing, take a look at the last page... People just basically said that people who do qb sneaks are gaming the system and uncreative. Come on now.[/QUOTE]

Put the time into a scheme and it can be stopped.
 
[quote name='DVO21']TRADE ALERT

Jaguars send
Matt Schaub overall 87 age 33 pot A
and 3rd round pick

for
Titans 1st round pick[/QUOTE]

Why does a 3rd need to be included?
 
i beleive he wants it becuz of schaub's age which i can agree with schaub is old and isnt quite worth a first rounder anymore there for he should get something back so a 3rd seems to even it up
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Why does a 3rd need to be included?[/QUOTE]

Cuzz I don't think schuab is really worth a first round pick, but he's the only qb on the block that fits what I want.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']This is what I'm angry about. I could say the exact same thing about QB sneaks. example[/QUOTE]

The difference is running the ball takes skill, especially when making the proper cuts. Qb sneaks do not.
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']BV, thanks for beating BSeti, lmao...every game matters in this division now...lmao[/QUOTE]

Happy to oblige. Hopefully I can do him a solid in turn by beating you again later this season. :D

[quote name='Doomtime']The difference is running the ball takes skill, especially when making the proper cuts. Qb sneaks do not.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much this.

[quote name='DVO21']TRADE ALERT

Jaguars send
Matt Schaub overall 87 age 33 pot A
and 3rd round pick

for
Titans 1st round pick[/QUOTE]

Seems fair, though with this likely to be a later 1st round pick I'm not sure the 3rd is necessary.
 
This is the way I look at it..

If everyone could run the way Doom does, then yea, there may be a need for league rules to prohibit a broken function of the game. But he is using his skill at running to burn everyone.

A QB sneak in Madden takes no skill. You select the play and watch the QB push ahead for a yard or two almost every single time. I understand you (GB) shared that you have had it stopped. From my experience, I have not, nor have I stopped it. Perhaps I am not the best barometer of skill to be used. However, it seems that is a common experience that others have had.

I don't care whether it is imaginative or not. I don't call it because I do not feel it is fair. I would rather be stopped and lose than to not be fair to my opponent.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']This is the way I look at it..

If everyone could run the way Doom does, then yea, there may be a need for league rules to prohibit a broken function of the game. But he is using his skill at running to burn everyone.

A QB sneak in Madden takes no skill. You select the play and watch the QB push ahead for a yard or two almost every single time. I understand you shared that you have had it stopped. From my experience, I have not, nor have I stopped it. It seems that is a common experience that others have had.

I don't care whether it is imaginative or not. I don't call it because I do not feel it is fair. I would rather be stopped and lose than to not be fair to my opponent.[/QUOTE]

Amen. This pretty much perfectly sums up why it's banned, whether it's glitched or not.
 
Are we really talking about banning Doom's running plays because no one can beat him. Or comparing Dooms running ability to QB sneaks because he is unstoppable.

I gotta play this guy!
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Are we really talking about banning Doom's running plays because no one can beat him. Or comparing Dooms running ability to QB sneaks because he is unstoppable.
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Really talking about it. Not seriously talking about it. At least I hope not.

Here's a more permanent solution: Ban Doom!

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I don't agree that it is unfair for the opponent but whatever. And I do agree that Doom is the best rusher in the league, but part of it is Charles' speed, which allows him to break huge runs, where as lowly Michael Turner with his 86 speed is incapable of breaking huge runs, even if I do everything exactly the same as doom.

And no I'm not seriously arguing, I'm just bored as shit and this is at least entertaining for me.
 
[quote name='BSETI50']We should stop predicting where my pick is going to be, I have a tough ass schedule[/QUOTE]

i agree
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Had a 32 game win streak snapped last season. It was only a matter of time. :) Looking to repeat season 1.[/QUOTE]

Not with me on your schedule this year doom! :)
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Yeah haha. But in 2 seasons Charles has only had under 100 yards 6 times. Im sure that is more unrealistic than the qb sneak percentage. If you are wondering why I'm arguing, take a look at the last page... People just basically said that people who do qb sneaks are gaming the system and uncreative. Come on now.[/QUOTE]


Doom is good at Madden. You gonna ban him from Hadukens if he kicks your ass with Ryu in Street Fighter?

I like QB sneaks in the opponents territory and think they should be allowed. Don't let your opponent get 4th and inches if you don't like it. It is not automatic at all with 1 yard to go.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']I don't agree that it is unfair for the opponent but whatever. And I do agree that Doom is the best rusher in the league, but part of it is Charles' speed, which allows him to break huge runs, where as lowly Michael Turner with his 86 speed is incapable of breaking huge runs, even if I do everything exactly the same as doom.[/QUOTE]

You averaged 6.2 ypc last season, hardly chump change.

Only three teams in the league averaged more than 6.x ypc: New England (7.4), Oakland (8.5), and KC (9.2). 9 total teams averaged at least six.

So yeah, Doom is clearly the best rusher in the league by a good margin, but it's not like he'd doing something plenty of people aren't doing. He's just somewhat better at it, and also has a very talented back.

[quote name='LVPatriots']Doom is good at Madden. You gonna ban him from Hadukens if he kicks your ass with Ryu in Street Fighter?
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Classic. :lol:
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Doom is good at Madden. You gonna ban him from Hadukens if he kicks your ass with Ryu in Street Fighter?[/QUOTE]

Nah, I'm just saying that you guys said that QB sneaks are banned because they can't be stopped and then when I said Doom can't be stopped you guys said, practice your schemes. I responded by saying that the same thing could be said about QB sneaks.
 
[quote name='BSETI50']Cuzz I don't think schuab is really worth a first round pick, but he's the only qb on the block that fits what I want.[/QUOTE]

then why not just trade a second
 
[quote name='bvharris']You averaged 6.2 ypc last season, hardly chump change.

Only three teams in the league averaged more than 6.x ypc: New England (7.4), Oakland (8.5), and KC (9.2). 9 total teams averaged at least six.
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What do all 3 of those teams have in common? Hint: 96speed, 97 speed, 98 speed. You know what? fuck it BAN SPEED! Or at least install some of these bad boys:
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[quote name='gbpackers94']What do all 3 of those teams have in common? Hint: 96speed, 97 speed, 98 speed. You know what? fuck it BAN SPEED! [/QUOTE]

i Would like to point out that the team at the top of the 6.xx chart (right behind the Patriots) is the Dolphins with 6.8 ypc with an 83 speed HB.

Pay no attention to the fact that i drafted a 92 speed Hb, Please.
 
[quote name='damailman2272']then why not just trade a second[/QUOTE]

He didn't want to do a second so I offered the first with his third in return.
 
[quote name='damailman2272']then why not just trade a second[/QUOTE]


becuz i said no to just a second becuz i know hes good and that could make it worth nothing for him to get schaub but a first rounder im atleast gonig to get something worth while if u think it should only be a just first rounder i will talk to seti and see how he feels about it but i doubt he says yes
 
[quote name='DVO21']becuz i said no to just a second becuz i know hes good and that could make it worth nothing for him to get schaub but a first rounder im atleast gonig to get something worth while if u think it should only be a just first rounder i will talk to seti and see how he feels about it but i doubt he says yes[/QUOTE]

what bout 2nd and fourth or something
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']Nah, I'm just saying that you guys said that QB sneaks are banned because they can't be stopped and then when I said Doom can't be stopped you guys said, practice your schemes. I responded by saying that the same thing could be said about QB sneaks.[/QUOTE]


Well I have never played against Doom officially. You have to see my correlation though. Video games are played by human beings with hand/eye coordination. All this talk about speed is silly. Give Doom Ben Jarvis Green Ellis and I'll bet money he breaks 100 yards as much as he does now. Maybe not 300 yards and 6 touchdowns, but every team has a few excellent players, Doom just has a team with the best player at running back and Doom knows how to run.

The league shouldn't be balanced, who the hell wants 32 8-8 teams. Players like Doom and Big At on D give us simple Madden folk something to strive for. And we know it can be attained by these guys so maybe someday.

Ban the Ban Doom movement!

I'm all for banning speed though, Ben Jarvis Green Ellis's and Brandon Jacobs' for all!
 
no he and i both feel very strongly that our trade is fair just looking at schaubs age he already went down 1 point from last year he will only go down again next year there for this trade will be fair well it is fair
 
[quote name='staticz']What about Schaub and a fourth? Seems a bit more even to me.[/QUOTE]


its up to seti
 
[quote name='doomtime']i'm 80-11-2 with 2 superbowls in 5 seasons since the beginning of madden 11 when i joined.

Hardly dominant guys.[/quote]

ban this man!!!
 
I mean we came to an agreement. I thought a third was perfect. If schuab was a few years younger it'd be different but ssince he's basically had a stunt in his progrssion I want that third. he's never going to be a 90. He's just not worth the first rounder unless I get a third in return in my mind. Plus we had some good negotiations this morning and afternoon trying to work out this deal. We would like it to go thru as is, barring any serious veto's obviously
 
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