Manhunt 2 coming to Wii.

[quote name='bobo2k4']http://www.rockstargames.com/manhunt2/kasper/

Has anyone been on the official site and played with the recordings.
Pretty freaky and shows small clips of killings..real nice headshot somewhere in there.[/quote]

"That's only six Leo."
"I really can't mention number seven."

Awesome.

Did anyone ever go to the site for the first Manhunt game? It was really cool; it was made to look like a real site for snuff movies and stuff. I can't find it now, and searching"manhunt" on google doesn't give you good results.

If anybody knows the URL, please link it.
 
[quote name='d00k']

Did anyone ever go to the site for the first Manhunt game? It was really cool; it was made to look like a real site for snuff movies and stuff. I can't find it now, and searching"manhunt" on google doesn't give you good results.

If anybody knows the URL, please link it.[/QUOTE]

http://www.valiant-ent.tv

Though it looks like everything has gone. I remember there was a fake message board on that site where snuff fans were posting about all the different videos. The original Manhunt instruction manual is a mock catalog for Valiant movies and products (weapons!)
 
[quote name='dinovelvet']http://www.valiant-ent.tv

Though it looks like everything has gone. I remember there was a fake message board on that site where snuff fans were posting about all the different videos. The original Manhunt instruction manual is a mock catalog for Valiant movies and products (weapons!)[/quote]
Damn, that site was so cool before. It's a shame they took off the message boards. There were some pretty cool/creepy conversations in there.

They took off the weapons too :(
 
Wow, ripping people's testicles off using pliers via Wiimote...that's fuck ing leet right there.


I'll definitely be picking this game up :)
 
I stopped looking at the media for this game. I don't want to spoil anything :lol:

All I want to do is read a few reviews just to make sure the game isn't far cry horrible then I plan on ripping out testicals to Mario Strikers comes along :D.
 
Yeah, I'm also going to stop reading anything about this game other than review scores. I'm expecting this game to get at least a 8.5. Anything lower and I'll have to wait for the game to drop to a budget price.

How about you, the heroes, who want to pick this game up and support M-Rated Wii game?
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Yeah, I'm also going to stop reading anything about this game other than review scores. I'm expecting this game to get at least a 8.5. Anything lower and I'll have to wait for the game to drop to a budget price.

How about you, the heroes, who want to pick this game up and support M-Rated Wii game?[/QUOTE]

The only reason I wouldn't get this game is if some major bug or gameplay flaw is discovered that makes it suck.

The only question is how much I'm going to pay which is still up in the air until I know how long the game is and what type of replay value it has. Right now I'm pissed that it's $10 cheaper for PS2 since both it and the Wii version practically look the same.
 
IT HAS BEGUN...

The Florida AG has already begun his investigation into Manhunt 2 on the Wii after receiving a letter from thompson which said:

[quote name='Thompson']Florida retailers are scheduled to sell a very violent video game called Manhunt 2 which will be available, remarkably, for “play” on the kids-friendly Nintendo Wii gaming platform.

The Wii device does not utilize traditional push button game controllers but instead utilizes hand-held motion capture devices… It is a training device. [/QUOTE]

The AG is also completely ignoring the other versions of the game and focusing solely on the Wii version because of the motion controls.

Also of interest is a source which says that Reggie actively hounded Take-two so that the Wii would get this game and thus more M titles.

http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/06/florida-attorney-general-looking-into-wii-version-of-manhunt-2/

Get your copies early folks because who knows how long this game will last on store shelves in its original version.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']
Get your copies early folks because who knows how long this game will last on store shelves in its original version.[/quote]

I plan to. I honestly believe this game is going to get pulled at some point; need to grab it before that happens. I really don't want a toned down version of this.

Has an official "M" rating been released yet? I'm suprised it hasn't gotten "AO".
 
I don't see how anyone could legitimately argue that replacing button presses with motion controls will make this game unsellable. I'm pretty sure ripping off a dude's testicles is ripping off a dude's testicles whether you're hitting A or flicking a remote. To be honest this game probably won't be for me (might rent it, we'll see), but don't start thinking it's gonna be pulled from shelves anymore than the original was.
 
[quote name='botticus']I don't see how anyone could legitimately argue that replacing button presses with motion controls will make this game unsellable. I'm pretty sure ripping off a dude's testicles is ripping off a dude's testicles whether you're hitting A or flicking a remote. To be honest this game probably won't be for me (might rent it, we'll see), but don't start thinking it's gonna be pulled from shelves anymore than the original was.[/QUOTE]

I don't think this game should be pulled from shelves or censored, but saying that there is no difference between pressing X and going through the motions of sawing a guys head off is stretching it.

You can argue that the difference doesn't make you more prone to violence (something I agree with), but there is a difference. If this game is as motion immersive as I think it is I would dare to say that this game IS a killing simulator. I don't think that it makes you more violent, but you are simulating the act of ripping a guys nuts off, sawing his head, etc.
 
[quote name='botticus']I don't see how anyone could legitimately argue that replacing button presses with motion controls will make this game unsellable. I'm pretty sure ripping off a dude's testicles is ripping off a dude's testicles whether you're hitting A or flicking a remote. To be honest this game probably won't be for me (might rent it, we'll see), but don't start thinking it's gonna be pulled from shelves anymore than the original was.[/quote]

I didn't argue that the controls are what's going to get the game pulled, I only meant the violence. It doesn't matter how it's controlled, the game is still going to be more violent then movies are allowed to be. And with movies like Hostel II being released, that's saying a lot. (Although I have been told that there is a full frontal castration in that movie...:shock:)
 
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Hey ZD, mind hitting enter between pics so you're not stretching/messing up the page? That or post the thumbnails that are linked to the full page?
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']How do I do thumbs?[/quote]
You should be able to just copy the thumbnails from the screen index to paste it here, like this:




Or you could upload it to imageshack using the image's url and post the thumbnail link here.
 
Someone brought up the question that if there is a S&M club will there also be dildo executions??

Something to think about.

Also are there any Preorder deals on this game??
 
[quote name='Scrubking']Someone brought up the question that if there is a S&M club will there also be dildo executions??

Something to think about.[/quote]
Oooooh! Nifty! A whole bunch of interesting ideas just shot through my head.

Pre-order:

http://store.videogamecentral.com/wii-manhunt-2.html

You can get 10% off too. I'm sure you've already seen the "New CAG Affiliate" thread:

10% off coupon: cheapvgcgamer
 
[quote name='d00k']I need this game to fill the hole in my heart that Hostel II created...

*Edit*
(Shit, double post, sorry).[/quote]

I bet it'll feel like a vial of hooker spit shot directly into your heart. You'll gasp and sit up feeling all dirty.
 
[quote name='d00k']I need this game to fill the hole in my heart that Hostel II created...[/quote]

Was Hostel II that bad? I was unimpressed with the first one, so I can't say I care either way...

The best screenshot is the one with FREE SEX banner. Everyone knows that's a lie, 'cuz Herpes ain't cheap in the long run.
 
I'm not even going to watch those Hostel movies because nothing is going to live up to this game. Honestly, what is going to beat interactive testicle ripping?

And if one of you find it for $40 preorder let me know.
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']Was Hostel II that bad? I was unimpressed with the first one, so I can't say I care either way...[/quote]

It was horrendous. Unforgivably terrible.

[quote name='Zen Davis']I bet it'll feel like a vial of hooker spit shot directly into your heart. You'll gasp and sit up feeling all dirty.[/quote]

That doesn't sound much better X(
 
I pre-ordered mine through Amazon. No tax and free shipping. Rather wait a few days and get a guaranteed copy rather then driving everywhere looking for one when it comes out.

Then again like Scrub said, I'll cancel my pre-order if I can save a few dollars more ;)
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']You heard it here first, folks:

TAKE TWO CEO AND JACK THOMPSON CHAT IN PRIVATE

Ideas? Opinions? Speculations? Season Finale Spoilers? Go right ahead, this is as provoking as a chocolate-covered child in the mystery of a missing cake.[/quote]This is no more than a 5 hour whining match. Take Two is going to do nothing except call Jack Thompson a fucking idiot because they got Manhunt 2 and GTA IV coming out.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']Someone brought up the question that if there is a S&M club will there also be dildo executions??

Something to think about.

Also are there any Preorder deals on this game??[/quote]

yeah there's a pre-order deal.. when you pick up the game, they give you a nice plastic bag so you can strangle someone with like in the game. limited supply I guess. :D
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']You heard it here first, folks:

TAKE TWO CEO AND JACK THOMPSON CHAT IN PRIVATE

Ideas? Opinions? Speculations? Season Finale Spoilers? Go right ahead, this is as provoking as a chocolate-covered child in the mystery of a missing cake.[/QUOTE]

This was most likely a friendly reminder to Jack of his settlement agreement, and how they will sue his ass if he continues to break it by emailing politicians and talking crap about this game.

The fact is that Jack is a slave to his loonacy and will not stop until he is forced to. So I say get it over with and sue his ass into retirement and bankruptcy.
 
[quote name='MarioColbert']You heard it here first, folks:

TAKE TWO CEO AND JACK THOMPSON CHAT IN PRIVATE

Ideas? Opinions? Speculations? Season Finale Spoilers? Go right ahead, this is as provoking as a chocolate-covered child in the mystery of a missing cake.[/QUOTE]

Take Two figured they might as well manipulate Thompson into giving their game some nice publicity, as usual :)
 
Brutal AI
This time, the hunters operate in larger numbers; they are better armed, and deadlier than ever in combat. But what makes Manhunt 2's hunters even scarier than their predecessors is their enhanced AI. Everything about their behavior is more unpredictable: they are more likely to surprise you, turning around or changing their direction in ways you can't anticipate. And when one of them sees you, he'll quickly alert his cohorts to your presence. All of which makes it far more difficult to lure hunters away from the pack. It's all the more important to choose just the right moment to leave the safety of the shadows and strike. Because you won't get a second chance to surprise your enemy.

The radar
The radar on the bottom left of the screen is still crucial to your survival, showing the location, direction and level of alert of your enemies. The radar will only reveal enemies who are within your line of sight, or who you can hear. Hunters who are standing still will not be visible to you: just because you can't see anyone on the radar doesn't mean there's no one there. So you never really know what's around the next corner, at the top of the stairs, or behind a closed door. This means that you must always be careful, peek around corners, and make sure you're safely hidden at all times.

The (relative) safety of the shadows
Manhunt 2 promises that you will never feel safe, even when you are hidden in shadows. To ratchet up the tension, we implemented a new QTM mechanic: which means that if a hunter is looking for you, and you are hidden in the shadows, there is a chance that they might see you. Depending on the interaction, a mini-challenge may occur which forces the player to input a specific sequence of buttons in order to avoid detection. If you fail, the hunter will drag you into the light and engage you in combat. Which means there is nowhere you can hide and truly feel safe, making the already tense game play even more nerve-wracking.

Lights
Because you are safest in the shadows, many of the hunters you will encounter are equipped with flashlights, spotlights and helicopter support. They'll routinely shine their lights into the shadows looking for you, so you're just going to have to hope they don't decide to check out the one you're hiding in. And you'll always have to be ready to run.
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http://wii.ign.com/articles/796/796509p1.html
 
[quote name='Scrubking']That's fucked up!

What really gets me is this part


So adults can't make decisions for themselves now either?[/quote]Well I guess not, why the fuck can't a 40 year old living in the UK be allowed to buy this game. Ok sure it is brutal but seriously it is a fucking piece of art (yes I said art, all videogames are potentially art). Whoever banned this in england are fucking dumbasses.
 
I think videogame companies should start suing ratings boards. Why should Rockstar have to put up with such nonsense when other types of media clearly are not getting the same treatement. I say take it to court and show a judge how two-faced and hypocritical these boards are. That goes for the ESRB too!
 
And more, this I totally agree with:

http://gonintendo.com/?p=19838
BOSTON - Citing concerns that harmful effects of ultra-violent video games on children will be magnified by playing them on the interactive Nintendo Wii system, the Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood (CCFC) is demanding that Manhunt 2 – the most violent game available on Wii to date – be given an Adults Only rating by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB). The game will be released by Take Two Entertainment/Rock Star Games on July 10, 2007.
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And its also for this reason that I never had any silly thought that Manhunt would be the measuring stick for M-rated or otherwise "mature" games on the Wii. Far too niche and excessive to top any charts.
 
[quote name='botticus']And more, this I totally agree with:

http://gonintendo.com/?p=19838
And its also for this reason that I never had any silly thought that Manhunt would be the measuring stick for M-rated or otherwise "mature" games on the Wii. Far too niche and excessive to top any charts.[/QUOTE]

I would be fine with an AO rating if it was legit, but it's not. An AO rating is a roundabout way of banning a game here in the states under the guise of supporting free speech. No retail chains will carry the game and no console company like Sony, M$ and Nintendo will allow them on their hardware.

So AO = backdoor ban. Which is no different than what the UK just did. At least they had the balls to be up front about it no matter how wrong they were.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']

So AO = backdoor ban. Which is no different than what the UK just did. At least they had the balls to be up front about it no matter how wrong they were.[/quote]

Totally agree, so an AO rating means it's corporate censorship instead of government censorship??

Well thats ok then, thank god "freedom of speech" is being preserved.:roll:
 
[quote name='Scrubking']I would be fine with an AO rating if it was legit, but it's not. An AO rating is a roundabout way of banning a game here in the states under the guise of supporting free speech. No retail chains will carry the game and no console company like Sony, M$ and Nintendo will allow them on their hardware.

So AO = backdoor ban. Which is no different than what the UK just did. At least they had the balls to be up front about it no matter how wrong they were.[/quote]You think Nintendo would revoke Take Two's license to publish the game due to the rating? That would be pretty incredible.
 
[quote name='botticus']You think Nintendo would revoke Take Two's license to publish the game due to the rating? That would be pretty incredible.[/QUOTE]

I hope I'm wrong, but I think they all would. Do you think they want to be labeled the console with the "adult" games? There's a big enough stink right now over M rated games so I can't imagine Nintendo telling T2 that it's okay to bring over an AO game - especially since they know that it's sales potential will be greatly hindered by many stores not carrying it.
 
[quote name='botticus']And more, this I totally agree with:

http://gonintendo.com/?p=19838
BOSTON - Citing concerns that harmful effects of ultra-violent video games on children will be magnified by playing them on the interactive Nintendo Wii system, the Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood (CCFC) is demanding that Manhunt 2 – the most violent game available on Wii to date – be given an Adults Only rating by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB). The game will be released by Take Two Entertainment/Rock Star Games on July 10, 2007.
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And its also for this reason that I never had any silly thought that Manhunt would be the measuring stick for M-rated or otherwise "mature" games on the Wii. Far too niche and excessive to top any charts.[/QUOTE]


I am so fuck ing sick of people with this argument, though. When did this country decide to stop trying to get people to be decent parents and start trying to make big business do the job for them? I have no interest in this game, but I'm tempted to buy it just to piss off these polticial assholes.

Putting an AO rating on Manhunt 2 isn't going to do anything for kids. If they have useless dipshits for parents, they're going to be fucked up whether they play this game or not :roll:

And don't give me any of this, "Well some parents just don't undestand about the content of these games...," then the idiots should LEARN before they give it to their kids - DUH!

Maybe we need to mark stuff like rat poison in big letters on the front that says explicity "DON'T FEED THIS TO YOUR KIDS!", cause, you know, people might be too stupid to figure it out from the rest of the info on the box...

Has anyone ever stopped to think that the government holding everyone's hand is probably what has made most of the people today so fucking stupid? :p

*huff huff*

[/not so pleasant rant]
 
I have no problem with an AO rating. It is much more excessive than any M-Rated games.

Only problem is many stores wouldn't carry it, which is lame and complicates matters some.
 
I'd have no objection to an AO rating if it weren't so taboo. However, it's been made into the "scarlett letter" of gaming.

I really don't exactly see the point in the AO rating... 17 or older for M, and 18 or older for AO? Do people honestly think there's that much difference between a 17 and 18 year old? I doubt it... it's just that parents and stores are incompetent and not keeping kids away from the M games, either... so lets make Manhunt an AO game so it's frowned upon and some places won't carry it at all, etc. It's not at all fair to the company. It's not their fault that stores don't follow policy or that people are bad parents.
 
I'm of the opinion that whenever someone says "there ought to be a law" this generally means that there OUGHT NOT be one.

The debates regarding video game violence are meant to impress the voters - legislators do not give a fuck about violent video games. Considering that this is an easy thing to cover and a very cushy bandwagon to jump on, this bullshit will continue. I don't know how easily ESRB will be swayed by CCFC's claims.


 
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