Mass Effect - Gen. Discussion & Info - Pinnacle Station DLC Now Available 400pts

io - what you described were my only issues with the cover system. When everything is in front of you it works quite well but when things get hectic and enemies are charging you it isn't fun being stuck to the wall.

I don't mean to bash the game - I really really like it - I'd just give it a B or something instead of an A. There's something I can't put my finger on that compels me to keep going and it never really feels like a grind to do so (like just about every other RPG I've played). I am planning to play through again as a Renegade so it can't be too bad! I also never played another Bioware game so I don't have a frame of reference.
 
Back at Noveria with my adept. I tried to do the Ventralis-attacks-you path but I guess I got confused and ended up running into Benezia first again. Good thing I have a couple recent saves.

I also got both the soldier and quarian ally achievements on Noveria, which is nice so I won't be worrying about those anymore. It kind of surprised me though, because I still have a ton of clusters I haven't even visited.

By the way, if anyone else is doing an adept character, I definitely recommend the Bastion specialization class. Not only does it give you extra cooldown bonuses, but when you max it out, you can damage enemies even when they're in stasis. That's a pretty excellent perk, and it doesn't even tell you that until you've already picked the class. Just a heads-up.
 
That's good to know. I'm undecided if I'm going to play through with my soldier character again on hardcore or start over on easy with an adept to get those biotic achievements. I need to do the math and see which will net me more achievements...

Also, does using allys carry over from game to game? Like if I use Wrex for 50% of the missions in my first play through and 50% of the missions in my second playthrough with the same character will I get the achievement?
 
[quote name='javeryh']
Also, does using allys carry over from game to game? Like if I use Wrex for 50% of the missions in my first play through and 50% of the missions in my second playthrough with the same character will I get the achievement?[/QUOTE]

Nope. Have to be earned during one playthrough.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Nope. Have to be earned during one playthrough.[/quote]

I'm sure going to be pissed when I don't get the achievements for Wrex and Tali! I've completed 41 assignments so far and I don't know how many missions but I haven't been to Virmire yet. I'm trying to finish all of the open assignments before heading there...
 
If you've used them for all the story missions since getting them, you should be fine. It's 35 assignments and 15 missions to get them from what others have posted.

I didn't get any ally achievements in my playthrough as I wasn't aware of them and changed out characters several times my first 10 hours or so. Thankfully, I've never cared about achievements so it didn't really bother me.
 
Ever since I left the Citadel for the first time they've been with me but I don't know how many assignments I started on the Citadel before I left. From what I understand you have to start and finish an assignment with the same allies to get it to count towards that ally achievement. Is that correct?
 
Missions completed for allies do carry over. That's why many people suggest leaving Ashley and Kaiden as your last achievements, since you end up doing a couple missions on Eden Prime and on The Citadel with them anyway.

Heck, I did their achievements on my second playthrough. I got Kaiden's on only my 2nd mission outside of The Citadel on my second playthrough.
 
My bad. Got bad info from another forum or FAQ a while back I guess. Guess I'd probably get Liara and Tali's pretty quickly on my second play through as I used them most of the game.
 
I just finished my first runthrough of the game. I really enjoyed it but I think I'm probably going to power through my next playthrough rather than do everything. Cool ending too.
 
*sigh* what a grind. I'm trying to finish all of the open assignments before heading to Virmire and it's getting a little tiring. I'm in the middle of destroying 4 geth outposts or something. I'm also one light metal away from finishing that hellish assignment - once I get it I can stop surveying and stop going out of my way on the different planets. I only have 17 main missions completed and now 43 assignments completed. I'm thinking the ally achievements aren't coming until I do Virmire and advance the story a little more. I'm hoping to get to that tonight because after this weekend I'd like to take a break from Mass Effect get into another game like CoD4 or Halo 3 which I haven't really played yet.
 
They should really patch the game with a in-game counter to see how far along you are with the Ally achievements and the "150 kills/uses."
 
[quote name='lordwow']They should really patch the game with a in-game counter to see how far along you are with the Ally achievements and the "150 kills/uses."[/quote]

I totally agree. I'm surprised the weapon/biotic use stats aren't in a menu somewhere - they game is obviously counting...

Also, why am I always at the 150 item limit or close to it? I've converted everything in my inventory that isn't equipped into omni-gel yet I'm always hovering around 130 items carried...
 
[quote name='javeryh']Also, why am I always at the 150 item limit or close to it? I've converted everything in my inventory that isn't equipped into omni-gel yet I'm always hovering around 130 items carried...[/quote]Including upgrades/mods?
 
[quote name='mrelusive']Including upgrades/mods?[/quote]

I think so. I hit the 'x' button to call them up for each weapon and then I convert to omni-gel. I don't know what else it could be but every time I spend 15 minutes clearing everything out I'm filled up again after collecting a couple of things.
 
I had the same problem on the inventory system on my first playthough. You'll eventually just start converting everything to omni-gel rather than selling it.
 
Once you hit the 1 million credit achievement, the Normandy's requisition officer and the C-Sec merchant both start selling the level 7 (8?) Spectre master gear. Save a lot of credits for those. It's pretty much the best overall equipment you can get on a first play through, and you can buy multiple sets if you check the merchants occasionally.

Also, I think they start selling the level 10 master gear once you get the level 50 achievement, although you likely won't be able to buy these until the next playthrough.
 
I haven't bought anything yet and I'm at level 43 and almost at 2 million credits. I also haven't upgraded guns in a while - it's too much of a pain to stay on top of that stuff. I'll check out the master gear though - I've been looking for something to waste some money on.
 
Need to get some more MS points so I can pick the expansion up when it comes out and do a renegade play through.

Any deals on points currently? I've not seen any for a while.
 
[quote name='lordwow']By the end of my 2nd playthrough I had maxed out my credits (9,999,999) and my Omni-Gel (999)[/quote]

I maximized my money and Omni-Gel about 3/4s of the way through my first play-through. Of course I never bought anything, and I sold everything I got. After maxing the money I started converting everthing to Omni-Gel.

To be honest, If the ally achievements don't carry over to consecutive play-throughs with the same career I don't think I'll even finish my second play-through. I just don't feel like going through the game again. Or at least I don't feel like exploring every inch of every planet with the Mako anymore.
 
[quote name='Filbert']I maximized my money and Omni-Gel about 3/4s of the way through my first play-through. Of course I never bought anything, and I sold everything I got. After maxing the money I started converting everthing to Omni-Gel.

To be honest, If the ally achievements don't carry over to consecutive play-throughs with the same career I don't think I'll even finish my second play-through. I just don't feel like going through the game again. Or at least I don't feel like exploring every inch of every planet with the Mako anymore.[/quote]

I'm on my 2nd playthrough and honestly, I might've screwed up by not having certain characters on some quests in the early Citadel stuff. I can definitely say I won't do a 3rd playthrough and have to track everything down with the Mako. Not even sure if I want the new content.
 
Quick noob like question here...

I just started playing the game after having it since back in Dec. How the hell (if at all) do you change the last name of a custom character??
 
I didn't know that in new game plus you can't change your character's class. That's really lame. Now I have this level 47 soldier just chilling and I started an adept on hardcore.
 
[quote name='mvp828']Alright thanks... That's kind of stupid but oh well.[/QUOTE]

You'll understand once you start playing that being called Shepherd is far better than "you, that guy, sir, captain, commander."
 
I got the Quarian achievement! The Krogan one shouldn't be far behind since I've had Wrex in there pretty much at the same time. I also resolved the impossible situation with Wrex - I didn't even know what I was doing and I was surprised to see the achievement unlock. I'm at 360 points now and I think I can get 155 more points for seeing this through to the end (20 for krogan all, 25 for virmire, 10 for romance and 100 for finishing). I'm not sure I can reach level 50 (I'm at 44 right now). 515 points would be pretty good to me for one playthrough.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I got the Quarian achievement! The Krogan one shouldn't be far behind since I've had Wrex in there pretty much at the same time. I also resolved the impossible situation with Wrex - I didn't even know what I was doing and I was surprised to see the achievement unlock. I'm at 360 points now and I think I can get 155 more points for seeing this through to the end (20 for krogan all, 25 for virmire, 10 for romance and 100 for finishing). I'm not sure I can reach level 50 (I'm at 44 right now). 515 points would be pretty good to me for one playthrough.[/QUOTE]

515 is exactly where I was at the end of my first playthrough, and 700 through my second (though I missed 2 ally achievements, so you could probably hit around 740 your second time through).
 
[quote name='javeryh']I got the Quarian achievement! The Krogan one shouldn't be far behind since I've had Wrex in there pretty much at the same time. I also resolved the impossible situation with Wrex - I didn't even know what I was doing and I was surprised to see the achievement unlock. I'm at 360 points now and I think I can get 155 more points for seeing this through to the end (20 for krogan all, 25 for virmire, 10 for romance and 100 for finishing). I'm not sure I can reach level 50 (I'm at 44 right now). 515 points would be pretty good to me for one playthrough.[/quote]

If you're done with all the assignments like you said, you'll probably be able to hit 50 by the end. It might be close, though.

Started a new engineer last night (Will "Smith" Shepard) and I have to say I'm enjoying it a lot so far. I didn't have tech abilities with any of my previous characters, so having an entirely new skillset is pretty cool. Looking forward to neural shocking some guys. Also, I thought the game was finally wearing thin on me as I went through with my adept, but watching the opening cinematic and spectre induction scenes always manages to get me fired up again. :)
 
Done. I got the Wrex achievement immediately before the final fight with Saren. I'm done with this game for a long time I think. It was good but not great and certainly not worth a second play through right away, IMO. Way too many flaws. I died like 5 times in the last fight because I kept sticking to walls or getting stuck behind Tali or Wrex. I was ready to throw the controller through the window - not fun. The story was great though - it all seemed to unfold over the last 2 hours.

My final achievement count is 560 and I'm fine with that. I got the "Tactician" and "Power Gamer" achievements as well as the others I thought I would. I hit level 50 during the last fight with the geth on the citadel.
 
[quote name='javeryh']I totally agree. I'm surprised the weapon/biotic use stats aren't in a menu somewhere - they game is obviously counting...

Also, why am I always at the 150 item limit or close to it? I've converted everything in my inventory that isn't equipped into omni-gel yet I'm always hovering around 130 items carried...[/QUOTE]

Like mrelusive stated, you probably haven't converted all your upgrades/mods into Omni-Gel. They count towards your total. I noticed that today when I only had 2 or 3 extra weapons in my inventory and I was still at the limit.

Right now I'm on my 2nd playthrough and trying to reach level 60. Thanks to whoever said you get more XP by getting out of the Mako and finishing the targets on foot. I thought that meant that you had to be the one to get the kill, but you pretty much get the increased XP as long as your crew is on foot (no matter who gets the kill).

And today I realized just how many options you have in completing your missions. Right now I'm on Noveria and discovered the many ways of obtaining a pass...
A: Smuggle the weapon mod for Opold then turn him in to Anoleis. Obtain pass from Anoleis.
B: Get the evidence for Lorik Qui'in then give it to him directly. Obtain pass from Lorik.
C: Get the evidence then convince Lorik to testify against Anoleis. Obtain pass from Gianna.
D: Get the evidence then give it to Anoleis. Obtain pass from Anoleis.
E: Get the evidence then tell Anoleis that Gianna is spying on him. Obtain pass from Anoleis' body. (This one surprised me a lot!)
I also played around some more and you can complete more than one of the options. For example, you can do (A) and still do (B) or (C).

Pretty cool if you ask me.
 
[quote name='Cleaner7']Right now I'm on my 2nd playthrough and trying to reach level 60. Thanks to whoever said you get more XP by getting out of the Mako and finishing the targets on foot. I thought that meant that you had to be the one to get the kill, but you pretty much get the increased XP as long as your crew is on foot (no matter who gets the kill).
[/QUOTE]

It's not just getting out of the Mako - it is getting rapid kills. You seem to get a multiplier thing going on when you do this. I've had enemies that normally give 300 or so come out to as much as 1200 when they are killed in rapid succession.

Note that the level requirements get insane for 56 or so and up. I hit 55 or 56 pretty early in my second playthrough and yet it took the beginning of a third one to get level 60, and that was with trying to get as much exp as possible (getting out of the Mako almost all the time, trying to chain together kills quickly, opening every locked item, doing nearly all the sidequests, etc). About the only thing I didn't do was drive to every mineral deposit on my second playthrough (though I did that the first time). I figured it wasn't worth the effort and it wasn't as I hit 60 pretty early in my third (and currently suspended) play and that took way less time than driving all over every planet. I do need to finish that up to get a couple more ally achievements and the insanity one. Then I can take a long break.
 
This is a decent game but no where near KOTOR. I'm an avid fan of KOTOR and I bought this game thinking it will be a similar experience but it really wasn't. It gets really boring at times. I guess this is what I get for having high expectations of Bioware. It is a decent game but no where near KOTOR.
 
So, I finished Virmire a while ago, and am trying to get the Ashley/Tali achievements as well as completionist and Lift Mastery. I also have over 1,000,000 credits, but I'm not getting the achievement...
Question, one you
Go through the whole thing with Captain Anderson and escape the Citadel, can you return? I need to return to finish some sidequests...
 
[quote name='Azumangaman']So, I finished Virmire a while ago, and am trying to get the Ashley/Tali achievements as well as completionist and Lift Mastery. I also have over 1,000,000 credits, but I'm not getting the achievement...
Question, one you
Go through the whole thing with Captain Anderson and escape the Citadel, can you return? I need to return to finish some sidequests...
[/quote]

I don't think you can go back after completing virmire.
 
Your best course of action, if you're going for Asari Ally is to do:

- Eden Prime
- Only the 4 missions you need on the Citadel to leave (become a Spectre)
- Artimus Tau
- Noveria/Feros
- All the Citadel Missions (The Fan you will have to go back at least once to complete)
- Go through all the systems and scan all the planets for minerals (you want to find the last mineral/emblem/etc (complete the assignment) on the planets with Liara, not in the galactic map)
- There are about 4 assignments that require you to return to the citadel, make sure to do those first.
- Virmire
- All of the rest of the assignments (I unlocked the other ally achievement here)
- Ilos (I unlocked Liara's achievement here, when you unlock the gate to let the MAKO drive down the tunnel)

There's a GameFAQs list with all the assignments in this order if you want a checklist.
 
[quote name='io']It's not just getting out of the Mako - it is getting rapid kills. You seem to get a multiplier thing going on when you do this. I've had enemies that normally give 300 or so come out to as much as 1200 when they are killed in rapid succession.[/quote]

It looked like this was working for a while, but now I have another theory: It could be the "bonus" experience is actually just the XP from individual enemies stacking because they're killed close together, just like how if you open a bunch of medical containers at once it'll say medigel +1, +2, etc. Does anyone know if there's a real experience bonus, or if it's just the numbers stacking?
 
[quote name='lordwow']Your best course of action, if you're going for Asari Ally is to do:

- Eden Prime
- Only the 4 missions you need on the Citadel to leave (become a Spectre)
- Artimus Tau
- Noveria/Feros
- All the Citadel Missions (The Fan you will have to go back at least once to complete)
- Go through all the systems and scan all the planets for minerals (you want to find the last mineral/emblem/etc (complete the assignment) on the planets with Liara, not in the galactic map)
- There are about 4 assignments that require you to return to the citadel, make sure to do those first.
- Virmire
- All of the rest of the assignments (I unlocked the other ally achievement here)
- Ilos (I unlocked Liara's achievement here, when you unlock the gate to let the MAKO drive down the tunnel)

There's a GameFAQs list with all the assignments in this order if you want a checklist.[/quote]
Yeah, I'm basically just surveying everything and going to all the planets and scanning minerals and such so I can hopefully get the Ashley, Tali and Completionist achievements. I have been playing with them since the very beginning with Ashley and started Tali right when I unlocked her. Right now I'm getting rid of the 4 Geth outposts (2 of 4 completed). I have about 2.5 million credits.
 
[quote name='javeryh']
My final achievement count is 560 and I'm fine with that. I got the "Tactician" and "Power Gamer" achievements as well as the others I thought I would. I hit level 50 during the last fight with the geth on the citadel.[/quote]
Impressive. I just finished the game a few minutes ago with 550. Got the Tali and Ashley achievements, and finished at level 47. I was very pleased that I got the "Tactician" achievement, as I didn't expect it.
 
I feel like I've posted this everywhere I know, but here's my review of the DLC for anyone interested:

First off, it is basically a short main quest mission. There is one new area along with corresponding cutscenes. There are sub areas that recycle the old prefab two story building that you are used to from every other side quest in the game. There is a side quest that involves driving around in the Mako and is typical of the other side quests in the game. Also, you may want to make use of the "save game" glitch to repair your Mako's health. It's faster than waiting for the repair meter to fill up.
One new game mechanic is introduced, although I think it's rather pointless and exists only to make one of the battles harder. That said, if you are going in with an uber build character (Soldier or Vanguard), it shouldn't be a problem anyway.
Graphically, the new areas look impressive. There are small touches on the asteroid that make the scene look beautiful... and the new main area, although remniscient of the Citadel, still looks pretty good.

Now on to the stuff I care about - the story. There is one moment in the mission that really impressed me - it was simply a cutscene and involved one of the NPCs, but I thought it was pretty awesome. It makes me wish that the engine was more powerful so that they could give the characters more emotions (as far as I know, UE3 characters can't cry), but with the tools they had, they did reasonably well. There is also a big "moral choice" in the mission as well, as with all the other main missions. I only did the "good" ending - I'll save the "bad" one for later, but I get the feeling that they are completely different... although, I could be wrong. I'll say this though, the good ending leaves room for a sequel.

I did experience frame rate issues in the final part of the mission, so no, there are no optimization patches. It looks like the PC version will be your only hope for the game if that's what you're concerned about.

Finally, only Shepard is voiced. I suppose they didn't want to write/record dialog for all your party members and all the different permutations of party members. I played it with my Female Shepard and, as always, Jennifer Hale does NOT dissapoint. Her voice is just so awesome... and I'm glad that ME will be a trilogy, if only because it means that she'll have work for at least two more games.

I'll give you one tip that is kind of spoilery but will save you Mako driving time later on if you're a completionist. When you first land on the Asteroid, you will want to go to the first "?" you see on the map. It won't make sense until later on, but it saves you a drive (and I hate the Mako, so... that's a good thing).

Finally, is it worth the 400 points? For me, I've got a few thousand that I bought specifically for Mass Effect and Rock Band content, so it was automatic.
If you are a hardcore Mass Effect fan and like their story telling, then it's definitely worth it. The actual story parts are really short, but I think they did a lot with the short amount of time they had and managed to tell a good, engaging story. Think of it as an excellent episode of Star Trek.
If you are a casual fan that played the game once and put it away... it's probably not for you. If the game wasn't engaging the first time around, then you probably won't get anything out of this DLC.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the next DLC pack.

NB - the mission just shows up on your Galactic map and the 50 points are just for completing the mission.

Hope that helps people make their purchasing decisions.
 
I just finished the game last night, so I think I'll pass.
Then again, if I download the DLC and load my old save where I'm in the Normandy, will it work? I recently scored a crazy cheap 1400 point card for $2.25 (Internet misprice FTW), so it wouldn't really cost me anything.
If that works, its so mine!
 
I was playing the DLC and the loading screen kept loading for a long ass time after I talked to someone. I'll play the rest later.
 
[quote name='Azumangaman']I just finished the game last night, so I think I'll pass.
Then again, if I download the DLC and load my old save where I'm in the Normandy, will it work? I recently scored a crazy cheap 1400 point card for $2.25 (Internet misprice FTW), so it wouldn't really cost me anything.
If that works, its so mine![/quote]

Yeah, as long as you're on the Normandy with access to the Galaxy Map, you can play the DLC.
 
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