Metroid Prime 3 - Do Mother Brains' Have PMS? - 9.5 From IGN!

wow thank you for all the useless answers. I'm looking for someone who did not enjoy the first game to review this third one to see if it's any good plain and simple. I don't want to make the same mistake I did when I purchased metroid prime for gamecube.
 
Just got shot down from my EBX. They won't sell til tomorrow. The guy pretty much dodged my question when I said "I figured I just ask since I heard some stores already got their copies in and are selling them" His response "Nope, not selling until tomorrow"

They're back there you bastard, I know they are!
 
What makes you think it will be any different? It's the third in a series that doesn't change much at all. It still uses lock on, but in the same way the Godfather used lock on, as in it locks the camera to an enemy, but not your aim, your aim is with the pointer.

You won't like it, so spare us the whining later and avoid it.

I suppose I can't complain too bad because i'm using credit from the GameCrazy 50% bonus deal. I'll just play system shock 2 tonight.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']wow thank you for all the useless answers. I'm looking for someone who did not enjoy the first game to review this third one to see if it's any good plain and simple. I don't want to make the same mistake I did when I purchased metroid prime for gamecube.[/QUOTE]

From the 1up review.

"It's (as if) the best title from six years in the future fell through a time warp."

That was me, reviewing the original Metroid Prime on its release in the fall of 2002. The funny thing is, playing Metroid Prime 3: Corruption almost six years later, it often does feel like the same game.

From the IGN review.

If you were on board Samus Aran's Hunter-Class Gunship for the critically acclaimed first outing and its sequel, you will be ready for the third and final act in the trilogy because, at least from a design standpoint, there haven't been too many major changes. The heroine still explores exotic alien terrain and fights fearsome alien creatures, and the re-traversal backbone that has powered Metroid projects since the NES classic that started it all remains completely and thankfully intact. So if you've never liked these titles, Corruption probably isn't going to make you a believer, even with its enhanced graphics and spectacular new controls.


It's more of the same with new controls. So again, unless the ONLY reason you didn't like the first 2 was due to the lock on aiming, you're not going to like this one either as that's pretty much all they changed in the formula.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']From the 1up review.



From the IGN review.




It's more of the same with new controls. So again, unless the ONLY reason you didn't like the first 2 was due to the lock on aiming, you're not going to like this one either as that's pretty much all they changed in the formula.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to me :)
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']...lol @ Wii online.[/QUOTE]

The friend codes are a pain, but the games work and lag usually isn't bad, so it is a viable option for someone that wants to play Strikers multiplayer but doesn't have friends who are into it.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Welcome to me :)[/QUOTE]

Yep, you should like it it seems.

But I doubt Zoglog will since he seemed to hate pretty much everything about the first.

[quote name='Zoglog']
The first game was drab with boring textures and exploration and the useless scanning and autoaim. [/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Strikers has online play, assuming you have broadband. I passed on it as I've never cared for the Mario Sports games.[/quote]

Yeah I guess so, but it's just not the same as playing with a group of friends. The only way I'd actually want the game is if I could play it with them.
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']Yeah I guess so, but it's just not the same as playing with a group of friends. The only way I'd actually want the game is if I could play it with them.[/QUOTE]

I'm the exact same way. For the most part, the only game I play online is Halo 2, with a spell of GoW in there for good measure. But if I get a game that is designed to be a party game, I want my friends to enjoy it. It sucks when they like it for like a week, then they're ready to move on. I'm always like...ok you fuckers get your own controllers and own console next time damnit!
 
[quote name='Zoglog']wow thank you for all the useless answers. I'm looking for someone who did not enjoy the first game to review this third one to see if it's any good plain and simple. I don't want to make the same mistake I did when I purchased metroid prime for gamecube.[/quote]

That's like the most backwards thing I've ever heard. You just want someone to tell you the game sucks so you can conjure up a reason to not buy.

Well here's one: fuck off.
 
I'm stunned by the "bland textures" arguement towards the first prime.

I recommend this gametrailers review for those on the fence.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24117.htm

"Controls so well that you will never want to go back to a dual stick setup again"

"The first metroid prime is one of the highest rated games in existance, but prime 3 is easily superior. Far less frustrating, and more action packed, while managing to redefine console shooting controls in the process."

Strong words from a site not so generous with their review scores. Zoglog is missing out. Shame.
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']Yeah I guess so, but it's just not the same as playing with a group of friends. The only way I'd actually want the game is if I could play it with them.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough, I'm pretty much the same. Never been big into online gaming (other than coop with friends who've moved away.
 
Just got the automated Gamestop call saying that it would be in tomorrow afternoon. Not sure I'll have time for it tomorrow night though. Hopefully will be able to give it a spin Wednesday night as I'll be out of town after that. :(
 
Doubt it's too helpful now, but my Target (Lansing, MI) had them in this morning.

I've enjoyed it quite a bit. The controls take a little bit to get used to, but it is very natural once you get a comfortable position and realize you only need to make minor movements to get the job done.

Manipulating doors and using the grapple is pretty fun, methinks.

And the people speak! Speech! In a Nintendo game!
 
[quote name='Draccius']Doubt it's too helpful now, but my Target (Lansing, MI) had them in this morning.

I've enjoyed it quite a bit. The controls take a little bit to get used to, but it is very natural once you get a comfortable position and realize you only need to make minor movements to get the job done.

Manipulating doors and using the grapple is pretty fun, methinks.

And the people speak! Speech! In a Nintendo game![/QUOTE]

I'm wondering how tedious it gets to use the grapple to rip off the doors. I hope it doesn't become just an excuse to use your nunchuck. The other thing that looks like throw-in for the controls, are the parts where you have to turn your Wiimote like a key. That's not compelling gameplay.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']I'm wondering how tedious it gets to use the grapple to rip off the doors. I hope it doesn't become just an excuse to use your nunchuck. The other thing that looks like throw-in for the controls, are the parts where you have to turn your Wiimote like a key. That's not compelling gameplay.[/QUOTE]

It's not tedious at all. The grappling hook is pretty fun and intuitive. This is probably the best use of Wii controls in a standard-style, non-minigame so far. Not 100% perfect as there is some stuff that is awkward even when you get used to it, but after a very short learning curve, this game is very easy to control. Plus, the steadiness and accuracy of the aiming is refreshing to see.

As for the key and door handle stuff, I could personally care less, but I suppose it may be slightly more immersive than just pressing "A" for some people. It doesn't detract from the game having it in there though.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']I'm wondering how tedious it gets to use the grapple to rip off the doors. I hope it doesn't become just an excuse to use your nunchuck. The other thing that looks like throw-in for the controls, are the parts where you have to turn your Wiimote like a key. That's not compelling gameplay.[/QUOTE]

I don't know. I like those aspects of the game because it makes you a little more involved in the environment, which enhances gameplay, IMHO.

The only part that is a little cumbersome for me so far is scanning. Pulling up the scan visor is a bit of a pain, as you have to hit the "-" button, point at the visor, then do your scanning. It's fine when you're not fighting, but annoying when trying to scan a fast enemy.
 
[quote name='Draccius']I don't know. I like those aspects of the game because it makes you a little more involved in the environment, which enhances gameplay, IMHO.

The only part that is a little cumbersome for me so far is scanning. Pulling up the scan visor is a bit of a pain, as you have to hit the "-" button, point at the visor, then do your scanning. It's fine when you're not fighting, but annoying when trying to scan a fast enemy.[/QUOTE]

Shipwreck - I actually specifically meant the part where you grapple onto a door with debris on it, then fling the debris off. I'm sure the actual grappling parts are quite fun, but ripping doors apart could get boring...also ripping shields off of enemies could get tiresome too.

And yeah I agree. I can see how it's "cool" the first like 10x you do it...but when you go through this game, which is estimated to be around 20 hours...I can imagine that yeah, it stops being cool completely. Still, these are small nitpicks. I'm excited to pick up my copy tomorrow, but I'm not sure if I'll find the time to play it with Bioshock still on my plate.

Also, yeah I read about the scanning part of the game...that actually sounds really shitty =/
 
The IGN review said something about MP3 having WiiConnect24 compatibility. anybody know what that means?

like sharing high scores or new levels or what?
 
[quote name='J35U5']The IGN review said something about MP3 having WiiConnect24 compatibility. anybody know what that means?

like sharing high scores or new levels or what?[/QUOTE]


All I've heard so far is for posting your medals (achievements basically) and that you eventually can take screen shots and send them to friends.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']From the 1up review.



From the IGN review.




It's more of the same with new controls. So again, unless the ONLY reason you didn't like the first 2 was due to the lock on aiming, you're not going to like this one either as that's pretty much all they changed in the formula.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, that helps quite a bit.
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']That really helped. I might actually get this. I need a new Wii game, and I feel kind of guilty because I always play as Samus in Super Smash Brothers, yet I haven't played a single Metroid game for more than ten minutes...[/QUOTE]

Really? Even I've played through most of Super Metroid.

Psst. It's not the best game of all-time like people think it is. Not even the best SNES game. But it's still very good!
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']
Psst. It's not the best game of all-time like people think it is. Not even the best SNES game. But it's still very good!
[/QUOTE]

I don't get into that elitist "best" crap, but it's definitely my favorite game of all time.
 
GameDaily gives it a 9, Gamespot an 8.5

Gamespot isn't surprising if you look at ratings for other Wii games. They're always down on Nintendo compared to other reviews.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Really? Even I've played through most of Super Metroid.

Psst. It's not the best game of all-time like people think it is. Not even the best SNES game. But it's still very good!
[/quote]
Well, I'm thinking about getting Metroid on Virtual Console, but I feel like I'll be playing it just for the sake of being able to say I've played it. Which, from past experience, isn't the most fun way to play games.

I'll probably end up getting both though. I've got over $200 bucks just sitting around waiting to be spent.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Just got shot down from my EBX. They won't sell til tomorrow. The guy pretty much dodged my question when I said "I figured I just ask since I heard some stores already got their copies in and are selling them" His response "Nope, not selling until tomorrow"

They're back there you bastard, I know they are![/QUOTE]

Funny, I got a similar response from mine (82nd Ave). I tried fishing for the "early shipment" thing and he said "NEVER". Bastard. They sure as hell DO get games early sometimes - and could sell them in this case today as it is the release date. Whatever... I'm sure they didn't have it, but the "NEVER" just pissed me off - almost enough to just get it elsewhere and then cancel on the bastard (to hurt his numbers). It's a pain for me to drive up there tomorrow anyway when I could just get it from a closer store (I preordered it there using one of the deals a few months back).

Thing is, I haven't even gotten the "Aeris" call yet, so they better, in fact, have it tomorrow!

And Zoglog, I don't know what the hell you are expecting, but if the first one was a steaming pile of crap to you, then I imagine this will be a steaming pile of crap with slightly better graphics and a few other minor improvements in the texture of the crap. I could see someone thinking the first one was OK, and then maybe this improves it enough to make a good game a great one. But in your case I think I wouldn't bother.
 
Gamespot flamebait "no multiplayer" review is lol. Talk about not getting it.. Whatever. They've always gotta lowball things, and are becoming quite predictable in that way.
 
[quote name='jer7583']Gamespot flamebait "no multiplayer" review is lol. Talk about not getting it.. Whatever. They've always gotta lowball things, and are becoming quite predictable in that way.[/quote]
As long as they give Halo 3 an 8.5 also, then I would be alright with their 8.5 for MP3, but you know that won't happen. (there excuse for the 8.5 was that MP3 was too similar to the first two so let's see what they will say for Halo 3 - not that I'm not looking forward to Halo 3 though)
 
Kevin VanOrd, who did the review for GameSpot, is a really solid editor. He is probably the least likely to be biased against the Wii, so I can feel safe in trusting his review. Unlike the hyperbole lacing Matt Cassimassina's reviews.

I'll still buy the game tomorrow. :)
 
[quote name='jer7583']I'm stunned by the "bland textures" arguement towards the first prime.

I recommend this gametrailers review for those on the fence.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24117.htm

"Controls so well that you will never want to go back to a dual stick setup again"

"The first metroid prime is one of the highest rated games in existance, but prime 3 is easily superior. Far less frustrating, and more action packed, while managing to redefine console shooting controls in the process."

Strong words from a site not so generous with their review scores. Zoglog is missing out. Shame.[/QUOTE]

Are there any spoilers in that review?
I havent watched IGN's video review because they say its spoiler filled
 
I've played about 40 minutes so far and I am really enjoying it. If any of you have played a MP game recently, the control scheme is going to knock you for a loop initially. The lock on/free look option is pretty cool, but having played both MP1 and 2, I am expecting lock-on to mean shoot = hit. Since you have to actually aim even when you are locked on, it takes a little getting used to.

Oh, and you can use WiiConnect 24 to trade "Friend Vouchers" to other players to unlock content - and guess what? No friend codes. It uses your Wii friend list. It shows which friends have MP3 save data on their machine so you know who you can send the vouchers to. Pretty neat idea.
 
Eh GAmespot's review seemed glowing and yet an 8.5 which of course is good.

I'm pretty sure lack of hi-def graphics is an automatic 1 deduction on some sites.
 
[quote name='trip1eX']Eh GAmespot's review seemed glowing and yet an 8.5 which of course is good.

I'm pretty sure lack of hi-def graphics is an automatic 1 deduction on some sites.[/QUOTE]


I'd say this paragraph from the review explains the 8.5 rating.

Yet Corruption's focus on refined FPS mechanics and general sense of familiarity keep it from being as special as the other Prime titles. Just like Resident Evil 4 would have felt different--and arguably worse--had its controls been stripped down to a simple FPS scheme, Corruption loses some of its sense of wonder and strangeness on the Wii. Rather than being a true action adventure, it's hard to lose the sense that it's merely an FPS with trimmings. Its core control scheme is a revelation, but the resulting tempo adjustment and streamlining is missing some of the careful pacing that made Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 2 so superb.

So nothing to do with lack of HD, multiplayer etc., but rather he felt that the game's shift more towards being a straight up FPS games rather than adventure, as well as pacing changes, hurt it somewhat compared to it's predecessors.

That does concern me a bit, as I was wary of the new controls making it too much like an FPS, but I still can't wait to play it.
 
GameSpot just has a thing against games that are similar to previous games. Even if they're sequels.
 
[quote name='Dezuria']GameSpot just has a thing against games that are similar to previous games. Even if they're sequels.[/QUOTE]

:dunce:

From the paragraph I pasted above, it seemed that it got a lower score from departing from the first two games too much.

EGM is the one with the knocks against similarity, with an official policy of scoring sequels a point or 2 lower if they don't offer enough innovation.
 
[quote name='trip1eX']Eh GAmespot's review seemed glowing and yet an 8.5 which of course is good.

I'm pretty sure lack of hi-def graphics is an automatic 1 deduction on some sites.[/quote]gamespot tends to be uber picky in terms of giving out EXCELLENT reviews, and theres the graphics issue, not a problem for MP3 but for most other wii games
 
[quote name='trip1eX']Eh GAmespot's review seemed glowing and yet an 8.5 which of course is good.

I'm pretty sure lack of hi-def graphics is an automatic 1 deduction on some sites.[/QUOTE]
Gamespot just likes to fight the power.

I quit caring for them long ago when the lowered the Devil May Cry 3 score because it was too hard for the guy reviewing it.

I do think their Twilight Princess score was right though.
 
Gamespot sucks donkey dick at this point. Their reviews are all biased pieces of bullshit. It's obvious that most of these reviews are from people who are burnt out on games all together and should stop playing them and get a new job. They just like to give the lowest score so they can say they did. As for the Wii's graphics even if the games aren't being grading on them I'm still sick of hearing how they don't stack up. It's as if they beat the dead horse went back and beat the bloody corpse and then beat the mangled skeleton and then picked the bones to shove through their noses. We all understand at this point that its not as capable in the graphics arena.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Emphasis mine.

It looks to me like Gamespot complained about both. Not sure just how a game can both be too similar to its predecessors and stray too far from its roots at the same time. My meager human brain always considered those two things to be polar fucking opposites. Guess I'll need more reviews before I figure out which one of those is true, but I'm leaning towards "too similar to previous Primes".

What? Play the game myself and actually make my own decision?

Yeah, I'll get right on that as soon as they open up an EB in the middle of fucking nowhere.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, that is a bit odd I guess. And of course one should play games to make their own decisions. Reviews are just guidance for games one is on the fence about.

I tend to agree with Gamespot scores, and I have a feeling this will reflect my score since I'd give MP1 a 9.0 and MP2 a 7.5 and I see this one falling in between. :D
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Yeah, that is a bit odd I guess. And of course one should play games to make their own decisions. Reviews are just guidance for games one is on the fence about.

I tend to agree with Gamespot scores, and I have a feeling this will reflect my score since I'd give MP1 a 9.0 and MP2 a 7.5 and I see this one falling in between. :D[/quote]granted mp2 wasn't quite as good as mp1 but it still wasn't 7.5 level :cry:
 
[quote name='jkam']Gamespot sucks donkey dick at this point. Their reviews are all biased pieces of bullshit. It's obvious that most of these reviews are from people who are burnt out on games all together and should stop playing them and get a new job. [/QUOTE]

LOL

That totally describes me, I've lost a shitload of interest in gaming since the move to 3D and it's just grown lesser each generation since then.

As such I'm hyper critical of games and really only play 2 or 3a year that I really enjoy these days.

Guess that's why Gamespot and EGMs review scores tend to be closest to my own. :D
 
[quote name='maigoyume']granted mp2 wasn't quite as good as mp1 but it still wasn't 7.5 level :cry:[/QUOTE]

I hated it pretty much, and was damn tempted to give it lower. Hated the dark world concept (never played a game with 2 versions of a the same world that I liked aside from Link to the Past--as you spent most of your time in unique dungeons) which was made worse by losing health in the dark for most of the game.

And I'm a pussy and suck and games and it was way too fucking hard for me.
 
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