MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) Thread: UFC/Strikeforce

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dream 3 was damn awesome. hansen alvarez was one excellent fight.

yea the flying guard pull is awesome. the guy is SO good at imposing his will. i cant wait to see his next fight.
kawajiri is the,"strongest" grappler left and dont see him beating aoki, though i like kawa(he needs to fight uno)
nate diaz's opponent was very sub-par. what is it with him not taking fights to the ground? its like he either thinks his standup is that good or he wants to test his standup in every fight.
the guy is pretty sick on the ground i just dont get his gameplans at all.
hes lucky gomi gassed so badly so quickly.

id like to see him fight aoki at a catch weight since hes calling him out.
that could be a killer fight.

so you actually watched yamma huh? i hear it was an abomination.

the cards are out of this world the next couple months.
my cable bill is gonna get ugly. =)
 
I like Kawa too, looks like a guy from the Yakuza lol. I see aoki pulling the win as well with a much hyped JZ challenge, if he's not tired of the treatment he's been getting.

Nick imo, is one of those fighters that is held back by his gameplan, or lack of a smart one. Both of the Diaz bros are pretty scrappy if they don't get beat up too badly over the next few years, they still have potential of hanging in the top 10 crowd.

Yamma, was bad... it susposed to bring mma back to its roots like the old ufc days. And it basically did just that, minus any hl material. Just a bunch of lay and pray since there was only 1 5 minute round. I respect the fighters for stepping in the "pit", but I believe about a 3rd of the guys I train with could easily have won. Some of the guys seemed like they had very little training.

I hit up the local sports bars for the shows to save on ppv fees, you could try that if you were looking to save :).

Couture just won his first court victory, looks like we may see Couture vs Fedor.
 
[quote name='Theenternal']
Yamma, was bad... it susposed to bring mma back to its roots like the old ufc days. And it basically did just that, minus any hl material. Just a bunch of lay and pray since there was only 1 5 minute round. I respect the fighters for stepping in the "pit", but I believe about a 3rd of the guys I train with could easily have won. Some of the guys seemed like they had very little training.

I hit up the local sports bars for the shows to save on ppv fees, you could try that if you were looking to save :).

Couture just won his first court victory, looks like we may see Couture vs Fedor.[/QUOTE]

the yamma looks lik ei death trap. and not in a good way.

the only local bar that doesnt charge to watch ufc (thats the only thing shown at any local bars) is filled with jarheads, and i dont like being at bars with jarheads. no offense but they try and fight evryone.

yea, i was just reading about the couture business. though that fight loses a LOT of mystique if fedor doesnt take care of big tim, which i think he will.
 
Manchida-Ortiz sucked, Manchida just jogged around the ring for 2 1/2 rounds scoring points until he knocked the wind out of Ortiz late in the third.
 
fight was stopped.

i couldnt be more happier than i was when wandi destroyed, mr. "im to good" that jackass had the same attitude going into the alexander fight and he got smashed even worse this time.

ive decided no matter the card or the matchup. i will buy every ppv that wandi is on. i fuckin love that guy.

bj looked good, thank god i wont have to watch sherk lay on somebody for 5 rounds anytime soon.

ps.

im waiting for the wandi fight sitting with some family and i say, if his heads shaved he's murdering this guy. comes out with a bald head and cleans house. long live the bald head and his pride style beatdowns.
 
Wandy is back and they needed a spatula to pick up Jardine.

This was funny though:

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[quote name='PocariSweat']Wandy is back and they needed a spatula to pick up Jardine.

This was funny though:

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That shit was hilarous. :lol:
 
lol yea the ref's reaction was pretty good :).

I actually enjoyed the Machida fight. His style, although less explosive, is refreshing. Wand fight was amazing, and overall one of the better cards all year. Most had finishes, Machida's was excepted, his style makes him the decision master.
 
Machida can finish but he seemed more cautious with Tito. He picked Sokodjou apart much faster. Its funny how people say Machida didn't fight and ran away. Thats bullshit, they just can't touch him. Every evasion resulted in a counter strike. Round one was counted at 26 or so landed strikes from Machida and 0 from Tito. He also defended the takedowns amazingly. Tito was impressive in the final round with that triangle. I was out of my seat and would have gone nuts if he tapped a black belt. I do hate how they keep saying elusive. There are many more ways they can describe him.

Overall this card is probably my favorite all year. I can't wait to see the new BJ Penn at 170.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']Machida can finish but he seemed more cautious with Tito. He picked Sokodjou apart much faster. Its funny how people say Machida didn't fight and ran away. Thats bullshit, they just can't touch him. Every evasion resulted in a counter strike. Round one was counted at 26 or so landed strikes from Machida and 0 from Tito. He also defended the takedowns amazingly. Tito was impressive in the final round with that triangle. I was out of my seat and would have gone nuts if he tapped a black belt. I do hate how they keep saying elusive. There are many more ways they can describe him.

Overall this card is probably my favorite all year. I can't wait to see the new BJ Penn at 170.[/QUOTE]
ehh. bj is my favorite fighter but i really want to see him stay at 155. i dont get the talk of both hi and gsp moving around in divisions. there are plenty of guys that need have their shots.

i agree on machida, someties its frutrating because you want to see hi engage but you cant fault him, his style puts a LOT of pressure on his opponent to make something happen.

id have shit if tito subbed him. i thought i was solid the first time i saw it, after watching the reply several times it wasnt close. machida turned out of it immediate.

it was enjoyable and for the first time in a number of events i felt it was worth $45
 
Yea after watching the it a couple times, Tito did not have the triangle on that tight. I found it more surprising that he attempted and was able to apply it. Machida rolled out quickly. That armbar wasn't deep enough. I love seeing Machida's opponent's reactions. Its like they're surprised he can dodge everything. Like they walk in there expecting to be the one to catch him. I'm hoping whats next for Machida is facing the loser of Forrest/Griffin, then fighting for the belt after.

For me the excitement of seeing BJ move up in weight is that the last couple fights at 170, he wasn't all there. I would love to see the new BJ and the new GSP go nuts on each other. The fanboy in me would also love to see BJ holding two belts. Its true what he's been saying, it's not really exciting thinking he's slated to fight the winner of Huerta/Florian. After his last three fights I believe he will outclass either of them.
 
i agree that i dont think anybody at in the ufc at 155 can really challenge him. i think hes not the same fighter at 170 that he is at 155 though. but i think gsp has actuall competition from the ww div. i think alves could give him trouble as well as the winner of swick/davis. id also like to see a game diego roll with gsp. i think he has the skills to push gsp deep.

i think the most intriguing matchup in the ufc is machida/anderson silva. though they wouldnt fight each other.
 
I just listened to the post 84 press conference. That shit was hilarious. Dana was talking shit about Kimbo Slice and said BJ Penn can beat Kimbo. To which BJ replied "Dana can beat Bob Sapp". :rofl:

There was another part when Sherk said he didn't know what hit him and Penn said "It was a spinning kick" which also got big laughs from the crowd. Love him or hate him, BJ is one entertaining guy.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']I just listened to the post 84 press conference. That shit was hilarious. Dana was talking shit about Kimbo Slice and said BJ Penn can beat Kimbo. To which BJ replied "Dana can beat Bob Sapp". :rofl:

There was another part when Sherk said he didn't know what hit him and Penn said "It was a spinning kick" which also got big laughs from the crowd. Love him or hate him, BJ is one entertaining guy.[/QUOTE]

nothing but love from me for bj.
the dude cracks me up. i dunno why dana feels the need to mention gary shaw kimbo or elite at all.
i honestly think hes jealous that theyre getting what he feels (and so do i) is unearned attention.

a fucking "spinning kick" haha the more bj penn the better.
 
Dana talked about Elite/Kimbo because one of the press asked him if he felt Elite's TV debut was good for business. He said something like more MMA is great but Kimbo is street fighter who doesn't know what he's doing then said BJ can beat him. He also wrapped up that question saying bigger things and more deals are coming for the UFC.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']Dana talked about Elite/Kimbo because one of the press asked him if he felt Elite's TV debut was good for business. He said something like more MMA is great but Kimbo is street fighter who doesn't know what he's doing then said BJ can beat him. He also wrapped up that question saying bigger things and more deals are coming for the UFC.[/QUOTE]

well see if thats legit or if hes just blowing smoke bout bigger things.
i do agree though, bj would beat kimbo easily imo. i like kimbo, hes not a top level guy but hes exciting.
 
So tonight's the night... I was seriously tempted to buy some elitexc stock at 2.50-3.50 a share. any of you guys doing fantasy bets on mmaplayground?

I'm doing fairly well so far, around +6k I'd be higher but I lost a lot of money from my parlay wagers with Frankie Edgar, and Gonzaga.
 
I hope Elite gains some ground. The more MMA the better. I'm more excited for Faber/Pulver tomorrow. I think Pulver is past his prime and is going to be destroyed.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']I hope Elite gains some ground. The more MMA the better. I'm more excited for Faber/Pulver tomorrow. I think Pulver is past his prime and is going to be destroyed.[/QUOTE]

He's not that old :) I won't be able to watch the fight tomorrow :(. But I have a good excuse :). The Faber/Pulver fight is the one I want to see most though. For elitexc the thing about the Kimbo fight is that they are putting him up against guys that he is favored to win against, but what happens if he looses? They have so much riding on him. At least JT is so huge that the average guy may think he has a lot of credentials.
 
I don't really think that Pulver is old, though he did look horrible against Penn. I just think that Faber is that great. He's a beast.

Kimbo will be the next Tank Abbott. He'll probably disappear in a couple years. I'll probably tune in tonight if I'm home.
 
Jesus.. Faber VS Pulver was full of surprises. The first couple rounds it was like watching and just waiting for Faber to finish him. But then Pulver kept taking the beating and kept on ticking! His takedown defense against Urijah was damn impressive. When round 3 ended without a finish, it reminded me of when Homer became a boxer and took beatings until the guy was tired. Then he won by nudging him. I was getting a bit worried that Pulver wasn't going to go down and somehow get a lucky one in. He sure can take a beating. He responded well a few times each round but he was clearly being punished.

Overall good showing by both. Urijah showed that if he needs to he can go 5 rounds. He did show some frustration when he couldn't finish but man this guy will be the reason UFC starts a featherweight division in the future.
 
faber is pretty darn good.

the torres maeda fight was awesome. GREAT fight.
i was suprised by how tentative pulver was, i wonder what he was seeing that kept him from letting his hands go more. enjoyable fight, i liked seeing faber go 5 rounds.

bedlam is tomorrow. dont think im gonna see it, i expect the fights to be pretty good though.
 
Good gravy! Bisping was impressive before, but he just dominated Jason Day. I expect him to tear through UFC's middleweight division. Plus, I like his personality. Hehehe...
 
Anybody else notice how orange faber was. Looks like he used too much spray on tan.

He kept reminding me of the oompa loompas from Willy Wonka.
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[quote name='Theenternal']The UFC pays for medical expenses pertaining to injuries from the fight.[/QUOTE]

Where did you read that? When Randy was on Inside MMA one of his main complaints was no medical care. Well medical care once you leave the building anyway. I think they cover stitching & ring doctors. Josh Gross also talked about the same thing, comparing it to the IFL which insures all their fighters.

They also talked about extended medical care. Like say NFL players get. To treat reoccurring injuries caused by the sport after they're retired.
 
[quote name='TURBO']Anybody else notice how orange faber was. Looks like he used too much spray on tan.
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Thats a real tan. He's often outside running and shadowboxing and he just spent some time training in Hawaii with BJ. Pulver even commented on how deep his tan was when they met for the promo videos. He was poking fun of how he was in Hawaii with Penn preparing for their fight. Adjust your TV settings maybe? :lol:
 
I ran across a radio program named Big O and Dukes on 106.7 WJFK in washington d.c. that did an interview with Dan Cramer from the Ultimate Fighter. Sounds like they know what they are talking about and are into the show. Good stuff. Let me know what you think. Here is the link:

http://podcast.wjfk.com/wjfk2/1133002.mp3

Here is also one with James " The colossus" Thompson. By the way the interview sounds, I dont think that JT got a fair fight vs. Kimbo

http://podcast.wjfk.com/wjfk2/1141606.mp3
 
no that fight was not fair. but im not going to flood this thread with my feelings on that debacle.
the only mma podcast i listen to is beatdown, which i like a lot.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']Thats a real tan. He's often outside running and shadowboxing and he just spent some time training in Hawaii with BJ. Pulver even commented on how deep his tan was when they met for the promo videos. He was poking fun of how he was in Hawaii with Penn preparing for their fight. Adjust your TV settings maybe? :lol:[/QUOTE]
Looks pretty orange to me
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Maybe he used a spray on tan so he would be less likely to burn. But dude's def orange lol.
 
the guy was in hawaii for a full training cycle. if he sprayed/smeared himself with a tanner im sure hed have given himself less of a farmers tan.

looks natural to me.
 
Its not just Hawaii, in general that guy is always tanned. Shadowboxing outside in the parking lot of his gym is part of his daily routine and he's in Sacramento. It gets hot as fuck around there. He just absorbs a whole lot of sun. Fake tans are painfully obvious.
 
Wow, no comments? I enjoyed the show top to bottom. It kicked off with a great bout and didn't really slow down. Fisher/Stevens was good. The finale of TUF was pretty good and it was nice to see Amir win. My favorite match of the night was Diego Sanchez killing that Luigi character in the 3rd round with a sick kneelift before earning the KO victory.

Also, I didn't know Adderall was a banned substance until this show. I can see why, though. I lost 40 pounds onit in 3 months while trying to maintain weight. It'd be great for cutting.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']Bullshit on every account, Jackson dominated that fight.[/quote]If by "dominated" you mean "got his knee kicked to hell and mauled in the second round, almost choked out in the 3rd round, and minimally more effective in striking in the 4th round", then yes, he dominated.
 
Round 2 was the only round where any real work got done and Forrest completely dominated. Jackson probably won rd 1 with that knockdown. And 3,4,5 went to whoever was pushing the fight and moving forward, and that was Forrest. If Forrest hadn't of hurt Jackson's leg, it wouldn't have turned out this way. I'd like to see a rematch.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']If by "dominated" you mean "got his knee kicked to hell and mauled in the second round, almost choked out in the 3rd round, and minimally more effective in striking in the 4th round", then yes, he dominated.[/quote]
Please, Forrest controlled that second round but barely worked for shit on the ground. "Almost" getting a triangle doesn't mean shit when you got taken down then subsequently slammed. Forrest didn't do anything significant during standup except for a few shots and leg kicks, and that was most of the fight.
 
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[quote name='Ugamer_X']Forrest didn't do anything significant during standup except for a few shots and leg kicks, and that was most of the fight.[/quote]


Can't you say the same with Rampage after the 1st round?
 
Damn I'm still shock that Forrest lasted five rounds with Rampage. I thought he was finish when that uppercut landed, good fight!
 
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[quote name='AK85']Can't you say the same with Rampage after the 1st round?[/quote]
He landed more and better shots, plain and simple. Why was it that after every round (save for the 2nd) they showed clips of Quinton hitting Forrest right in the face? You don't get points for walking into fists.
 
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