MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) Thread: UFC/Strikeforce

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It's ridiculous the boos rashad recieved for putting rampage against the cage. Was sickening these same idiots cheer for that bum randy couture who does the same shit every fight but boo rashad when he does it immediately
 
People boo because it's not exciting to watch a guy get dry humped against a cage for 3/4ths of a fight. I get that it's an excellent strategy and that they're out there to win, so they're going to do what it takes. It's just not entertaining though. I'm not going to bash a fighter because of it since it's their job to do what they feel will get the win, but that doesn't mean I need to blow my load over it either.

It's the exact reason I don't watch GSP fights. I'm not particularly interested in watching a guy lay and prey for 25 minutes.
 
[quote name='SEH']People boo because it's not exciting to watch a guy get dry humped against a cage for 3/4ths of a fight. I get that it's an excellent strategy and that they're out there to win, so they're going to do what it takes. It's just not entertaining though. I'm not going to bash a fighter because of it since it's their job to do what they feel will get the win, but that doesn't mean I need to blow my load over it either.

It's the exact reason I don't watch GSP fights. I'm not particularly interested in watching a guy lay and prey for 25 minutes.[/QUOTE]

The lay and pray argument is great --- back in 1997 when wrestlers would take guys down and just hold them down.

Koscheck years ago (and Fitch even currently) get slammed for lay and pray... the comment works when they're not busy. Most ground and clinch work is busy. To say the last two Rashad fights were "boring" makes me think that K-1 is really missing out on the US market. It seems that that's what MOST people watching MMA want to see... just the stand up.

Seeing a fight end up on the ground is extremely tough to watch live--- so it's understandable why the crowd hates it. The cage the way it is set up is part to blame.
 
[quote name='GUNNM']watch boxing then[/QUOTE]

We always suggest to friends and co-workers (we being myself, my wife, and my "regular" MMA buddies) to other people to seek out and watch K-1 when they don't like certain fights/styles.

You'll see more and more close fights and decisions as the "lower level fighters" are weeded out of the UFC.
 
They watch UFC because of the hype they won't watch K-1 when they know no one. Hey you wanna see King Mo fight? Who? I wanna see RAMPAGE DUDE!
CHUCK LIDDELL BRAH!
TITO ORTIZ GUY
 
[quote name='SEH']People boo because it's not exciting to watch a guy get dry humped against a cage for 3/4ths of a fight. .[/QUOTE]

depends on what city theyre doing that in.
 
I agree, some people take the "wrestling is boring" thing entirely too far. But if Rashad was really working so much against the cage, why did Herb Dean break them apart 4 times? Most of the time, Rashad had his head and shoulder buried into Rampage's gut, trying to dig out the single. The most you could say he was doing was putting his weight on him and trying to wear him down. I don't think I would call that "extremely active" though. Let's not exaggerate.
 
refs listen to the crowd look at the koscheck fight he had back position the crowd was booing because they're idiots and the ref said do something koscheck or I'll break it up
Even rogan was stunned
 
[quote name='GUNNM']refs listen to the crowd look at the koscheck fight he had back position the crowd was booing because they're idiots and the ref said do something koscheck or I'll break it up
Even rogan was stunned[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but you're talking Miragliotta vs. Herb Dean. There's a difference.
 
He's an awesome ref what do you mean?
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One thing i would like to see changed. The 5 roiund grudge match. i remember seeing Liddell/silva and thinking "no way, i could wathc these guys all night" same with Rashad/Jackson. 3 rounds is too short IMHOP. You may argue that if youu can't get it done in 3 FU. but when they build these fights up for months/years, and with as much smack talk as there was, 3 rounds seems a let down.

5 round special grudge match. Make it happen.
 
[quote name='MrNEWZ']

Seeing a fight end up on the ground is extremely tough to watch live--- so it's understandable why the crowd hates it. The cage the way it is set up is part to blame.[/QUOTE]


After watching Sengoku Raiden, King of the Cage, and some old Pride events I can tell you that the cage is the best innovation in MMA. The boxing ring set up (and constant resets) is absolutely horrible.
 
Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 11 contestant Kyacey Uscola recounts his final TUF fight after a back alley showdown with wild dogs that resulted in a pit bull biting a hole through his penis.

"I was walking up to the side of the (TUF) house, along the road, when these dogs sort of ran up on me and cornered me, and um I'm an idiot I didn't run when I should've ran, I squared off with them and sliced my hand punching one in the teeth. Got chunks bitten out of my shoulder, hip, hamstring and the uh money one was that they bit through my urethra and uh I had to have a catheter for two weeks."
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[quote name='Maklershed']
Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 11 contestant Kyacey Uscola recounts his final TUF fight after a back alley showdown with wild dogs that resulted in a pit bull biting a hole through his penis.

"I was walking up to the side of the (TUF) house, along the road, when these dogs sort of ran up on me and cornered me, and um I'm an idiot I didn't run when I should've ran, I squared off with them and sliced my hand punching one in the teeth. Got chunks bitten out of my shoulder, hip, hamstring and the uh money one was that they bit through my urethra and uh I had to have a catheter for two weeks."
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Same guy who kneed Attonito in the face while he was down and then called him a pussy for not being able to continue. I guess karma does exist, haha.
 
[quote name='5of9']One thing i would like to see changed. The 5 roiund grudge match. i remember seeing Liddell/silva and thinking "no way, i could wathc these guys all night" same with Rashad/Jackson. 3 rounds is too short IMHOP. You may argue that if youu can't get it done in 3 FU. but when they build these fights up for months/years, and with as much smack talk as there was, 3 rounds seems a let down.

5 round special grudge match. Make it happen.[/QUOTE]
5 round non-title matches have been allowed in Nevada for months now. Dana, however, has said to be completely against the idea.
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Same guy who kneed Attonito in the face while he was down and then called him a pussy for not being able to continue. I guess karma does exist, haha.[/QUOTE]
You mean that knee that made contact with absolutely nothing?
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']You mean that knee that made contact with absolutely nothing?[/QUOTE]

Regardless, he acted classless when it happened. Screaming at him and telling him to get up and fight. Looking at the replay again, it's really tough to tell. Obviously, it didn't hit him flush, but there's angles where it looks like it could have clipped his nose. It was sure as hell a lot closer than the phantom knees that Koscheck always pretends to get hit with. Plus, when it happened, Kyacey's defense wasn't "it never touched him". It was "he was getting up", lol...which didn't really help his cause.

And yeah, same guy who accused Yager of stealing.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Regardless, he acted classless when it happened. Screaming at him and telling him to get up and fight. Looking at the replay again, it's really tough to tell. Obviously, it didn't hit him flush, but there's angles where it looks like it could have clipped his nose. It was sure as hell a lot closer than the phantom knees that Koscheck always pretends to get hit with. Plus, when it happened, Kyacey's defense wasn't "it never touched him". It was "he was getting up", lol...which didn't really help his cause.

And yeah, same guy who accused Yager of stealing.[/QUOTE]

lol good to know karma always comes back when you least expect it.
 
I figured Rampage probably wouldn't win vs. Rashad and I think he got really lucky even catching him with that punch as Rashad was ducking it. Rashad has too many way to win that fight and 'page hasn't really evolved along with MMA.

Diego found out 170 has moved on without him and he can't bang there anymore. Poor guy needs to be back with a tough camp to reclaim his former glory, methinks.

Brillz didn't get robbed at all. He got wrecked on the ground by Nog's halfguard game. I had Nog solidly on rounds 1 and 2 so it didn't surprise me at all. Then again I rarely listen to Rogan/Goldy bias.

I think the Nog bros. would do much better if they both slid down one weight class. I don't think either is that big for their weight and could pull it off.
 
[quote name='Kuroi Kaze']I figured Rampage probably wouldn't win vs. Rashad and I think he got really lucky even catching him with that punch as Rashad was ducking it. Rashad has too many way to win that fight and 'page hasn't really evolved along with MMA.

Diego found out 170 has moved on without him and he can't bang there anymore. Poor guy needs to be back with a tough camp to reclaim his former glory, methinks.

Brillz didn't get robbed at all. He got wrecked on the ground by Nog's halfguard game. I had Nog solidly on rounds 1 and 2 so it didn't surprise me at all. Then again I rarely listen to Rogan/Goldy bias.

I think the Nog bros. would do much better if they both slid down one weight class. I don't think either is that big for their weight and could pull it off.[/QUOTE]


You had Nog on Round 2?

Care to send me a link to the fight you were watching? It was clearly different from the one I was watching.


I told my cousins who ordered the fight, "I'll give 2 to Brill, because he dominated that shit, and 3 to Nog...but It's going to depend on how the judges decide to award points in round 1."


Sure enough, I was right.
 
er maybe it was 3...my memory is not epic. still i saw no way that brillz took it. nog's half guard game is really similar to my own and it was awesome to see it used so effectively in mma.
 
Man, I don't get why Rampage let Evans off the hook when he had him down in the 3rd. Anyhow Machida v Jackson should be interesting but Rampage really needs to get motivated like a Marvelous Marvin against Tommy Hearns if he plans to make a run for the title.
 
[quote name='seen']Man, I don't get why Rampage let Evans off the hook when he had him down in the 3rd. Anyhow Machida v Jackson should be interesting but Rampage really needs to get motivated like a Marvelous Marvin against Tommy Hearns if he plans to make a run for the title.[/QUOTE]

Jackson was done... he didn't have the ability to finish. It's not like he thought "gee, I have this in the bag... let's not try anything stupid."
 
[quote name='redshadow']Anyone seen Liddell lately? He's ditched the brews. His belly is GONE.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, saw him at the weigh in today. He's pretty ripped. I still don't think it's going to make any difference.
 
Anyone else catch Bellator XXI? That was a major bullshit decision.

[quote name='BoSoxFan900']I'm really excited about tonight's event. Other than the main event, I'm hyped about every fight.[/QUOTE]


Ditto
 
[quote name='Maklershed']Anyone else catch Bellator XXI? That was a major bullshit decision.

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I had $20 on Curran and I could not believe that decision. At the worst, it should've been 29-28 Imada. I wouldn't have disagreed with 30-27 Imada at all. That was bullshit.
 
Man, they really gotta start training these new refs better. Condit was beating MacDonald like that the entire 3rd round. Why not stop it with 1:00 left? Why wait till 7 seconds? At the very least, tell the kid "You've got 10 seconds left in the round. If you want to finish, start defending yourself." It was almost like he wasn't paying attention to the first 4:30 of the round, and then saw MacDonald getting his ass kicked and said "oh shit!" I even love Rogan giving the usual "well, he saved him from any more inflicted damage...". Yeah, wow...7 seconds worth, lol.
 
Wow, so they just showed Chuck in his dressing room being rubbed/massaged by his girlfriend; not a good idea before a fight.
 
Kinda of a "so what?" fight between Rothwell and Yvel. Neither of them is doing anything in the HW division. But Kampmann looked really impressive. Completely dominated Thiago.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Kinda of a "so what?" fight between Rothwell and Yvel. Neither of them is doing anything in the HW division. But Kampmann looked really impressive. Completely dominated Thiago.[/QUOTE]
I thought the Big Ben/Yvel fight was entertaining, though. In the realm of things, it doesn't mean anything, but it was pretty fun to watch. Kampmann was super impressive, though. I thought Thiago would dominate him.
 
[quote name='BoSoxFan900']I thought the Big Ben/Yvel fight was entertaining, though. In the realm of things, it doesn't mean anything, but it was pretty fun to watch. Kampmann was super impressive, though. I thought Thiago would dominate him.[/QUOTE]

Ehh..to me, the Rothwell/Yvel fight was entertaining in the same way a bar fight is entertaining, lol. Now, the CroCop/Barry fight, THAT was entertaining! I haven't been impressed with CroCop in a long time, and after that 1st round, I was about ready to put him out to pasture in the "Senior Circuit" with Big Nog, Couture, and Coleman, but he changed gears from K1 to straight up MMA in those last two rounds. Post fight interview was also HILARIOUS..."He hit me and knock me on my ass", lol. I doubt CroCop has much more left in the tank, but it's always nice to see a "glory days" performance like that. I'm hoping we can see the same thing from Chuck tonight.
 
Damn. Chuck looked good until he started swinging like a gorilla. Gotta think the cut had something to do with it. He seemed to lose all patience and completely abandoned his strategy. Not that Chuck has ever been that multi-faceted, but I really liked the way he came out. Too bad. If this is Chuck's last fight, it really sucks that he didn't get to face Tito one more time.
 
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