MMA (UFC, Strikeforce, Bellator, Invicta, etc.) Discussion Thread -- Version II
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n8rockerasu
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I just...wasn't all the injuries this past year proof that they need back up fighters? I mean, I guess people are desperate enough to fight in the UFC that they could call anybody at the last minute and be like "Hey, you wanna fight this Saturday?" But it just seems risky. If the fighters actually banded together (MMAFA perhaps? Mixed Martial Arts Fighters Association), they could tell the UFC to 
off and force them into cancelling more PPVs. But I guess if the UFC doesn't care what bar fighter they throw in there, it's not going to make much of a difference. Maybe that's what they're counting on.
[quote name='ced']It's a shame that the fighting business is such a dog-eat-dog, "I got mine" world because if any groups needs to unionize, these guys rank up there.[/QUOTE]
Damn...we're on the same page, I guess, haha.
off and force them into cancelling more PPVs. But I guess if the UFC doesn't care what bar fighter they throw in there, it's not going to make much of a difference. Maybe that's what they're counting on.[quote name='ced']It's a shame that the fighting business is such a dog-eat-dog, "I got mine" world because if any groups needs to unionize, these guys rank up there.[/QUOTE]
Damn...we're on the same page, I guess, haha.
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[quote name='Maklershed']http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/2/21/4015644/dana-white-explains-why-he-released-jon-fitch
Dana says UFC roster is 100 fighters too heavy and more cuts are on the way.
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I actually agree with what Dana said in most of that interview. I just have a hard time believing that they're that "roster heavy" when they had to cancel one event last year, and had a few others with some sub-par main events. I guess if you wanted to argue that over 50% of that 475 fighter roster is complete garbage, that might be a fair case...but what does that say for the skill level of the fighters you're developing. Like I said before, The Ultimate Fighter really isn't bringing in top contenders like they thought it would.
Really, if you think about it...there are 8 divisions in the UFC (well, 9 if you count the new women's division). If you said there are, on average, 10 top fighters in each division (and some don't even have that many)...you've got 80 fighters. If you compare that to other individual sports...that's actually a lot of top athletes. In team sports, you can afford to have these lower level guys who just do their part and contribute. They're necessary. But realistically speaking, the UFC probably doesn't need more than 10-15 guys per division. The problem comes when they want to have a PPV every 3 weeks...and other events in between. I don't see how you scale back your roster without also scaling back your events. If you want to have that many events...you need those "lesser fighters" too. You're not going to have 300 amazing fighters. That's never going to happen.
Honestly, Dana did a terrible job explaining the Fitch situation. It felt like the point he was trying to get at but didn't just come right out and say is that Jon Fitch was a bad contract and made way too much money for what he brought to the table. Now, that IS something you see in many other sports (especially football). I'm not really sure why Dana didn't feel comfortable just saying that he was cut because his contract was too expensive. Maybe the UFC thinks that makes them sound like they're having financial problems...but to me, that's an explanation that makes a lot more sense. If he's the damn Alex Rodriguez of the UFC, just say so, lol. I wish the Yankees could cut A-Rod without having to eat any of that terrible contract, haha.
Dana says UFC roster is 100 fighters too heavy and more cuts are on the way.
[/QUOTE]I actually agree with what Dana said in most of that interview. I just have a hard time believing that they're that "roster heavy" when they had to cancel one event last year, and had a few others with some sub-par main events. I guess if you wanted to argue that over 50% of that 475 fighter roster is complete garbage, that might be a fair case...but what does that say for the skill level of the fighters you're developing. Like I said before, The Ultimate Fighter really isn't bringing in top contenders like they thought it would.
Really, if you think about it...there are 8 divisions in the UFC (well, 9 if you count the new women's division). If you said there are, on average, 10 top fighters in each division (and some don't even have that many)...you've got 80 fighters. If you compare that to other individual sports...that's actually a lot of top athletes. In team sports, you can afford to have these lower level guys who just do their part and contribute. They're necessary. But realistically speaking, the UFC probably doesn't need more than 10-15 guys per division. The problem comes when they want to have a PPV every 3 weeks...and other events in between. I don't see how you scale back your roster without also scaling back your events. If you want to have that many events...you need those "lesser fighters" too. You're not going to have 300 amazing fighters. That's never going to happen.
Honestly, Dana did a terrible job explaining the Fitch situation. It felt like the point he was trying to get at but didn't just come right out and say is that Jon Fitch was a bad contract and made way too much money for what he brought to the table. Now, that IS something you see in many other sports (especially football). I'm not really sure why Dana didn't feel comfortable just saying that he was cut because his contract was too expensive. Maybe the UFC thinks that makes them sound like they're having financial problems...but to me, that's an explanation that makes a lot more sense. If he's the damn Alex Rodriguez of the UFC, just say so, lol. I wish the Yankees could cut A-Rod without having to eat any of that terrible contract, haha.
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I wonder how pissed Dana White is gonna be if Ronda losses on Sat
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Huge night of great fights tonight, if anyone wants to watch the show send me a PM.
Tonight's Card
Main Card
Rousey vs Carmouche
Machida vs Henderson
Faber vs Menjivar
McGee vs Neer
Koscheck vs Lawler
Prelims
Schaub vs Johnson
Chiesa vs Kuivanen
Bermudez vs Grice
Stout vs Fodor
Robertson vs Jardine
Manley vs Magny
Burrell vs Villefort
Tonight's Card
Main Card
Rousey vs Carmouche
Machida vs Henderson
Faber vs Menjivar
McGee vs Neer
Koscheck vs Lawler
Prelims
Schaub vs Johnson
Chiesa vs Kuivanen
Bermudez vs Grice
Stout vs Fodor
Robertson vs Jardine
Manley vs Magny
Burrell vs Villefort
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Almost forgot Hendo and Machida were on this card x_X the hell was I doing?! Excited to see a flying armbar and a crane kick tonight! wooo
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Machida/Henderson was awful. 2nd straight bigtime LHW bout that went absolutely nowhere. The chick fight was pretty intense, but I didn't really care about the fight (and it didn't help that I was watching with a godawful crowd at a local bar, they were hooting and hollering for every jab and every slight transition). Faber's fight was my favorite of the main card. I didn't catch all the prelims but the 3rd round of Bermudez/Grice was awesome, better than anything on the main card. I didn't have a problem with the Lawler/Koestchek stoppage, but I understand how others may have thought it was early.
Pretty average overall, from what I saw.
Pretty average overall, from what I saw.
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I enjoyed the card...was great seeing lawler finishing Koscheck..I don't even mind that I predicted wrong.
Went 8-12 overall on my picks. 5 of 6 on my boosts. Only ones I got wrong was Koscheck-Lawler...which I didn't mind. Others were Yuri Villefort - Nah-Shon Burrell, Jon Manley - Neil Mangy, and Lavar Johnson - Brendan Schaub.
Overall 8-12 with 1,230 points...how did everyone else do?
Went 8-12 overall on my picks. 5 of 6 on my boosts. Only ones I got wrong was Koscheck-Lawler...which I didn't mind. Others were Yuri Villefort - Nah-Shon Burrell, Jon Manley - Neil Mangy, and Lavar Johnson - Brendan Schaub.
Overall 8-12 with 1,230 points...how did everyone else do?
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Ronda is my hero!
All right, now that that's out of the way, lol, this is one of the better fight cards I've enjoyed in a while. Hendo/Machida was easily the worst fight on it (which is pretty pathetic). I really blame Machida more than Henderson because he just wouldn't engage. Henderson had to chase him and lunge at him, only to get countered with a little peppering here and there before Machida danced away again. Machida seriously fights like he's in a fencing match...and it just doesn't impress me. If he thinks he can do that shit against Jon Jones, he's going to get prison choked standing up again.
Pretty much all of my picks won. Nice to see Faber get a convincing win again. Nice to see Court McGee and Michael Chiesa get wins. And AWESOME to see Josh Koscheck get KTFO. People can complain that the stoppage was early, but he didn't have his hands up. If you're not out of it enough to continue fighting, then cover your damn head and stop eating punches.
And the main event really couldn't have gone better for the UFC (especially after the snoozer that was Hendo/Machida). Ronda had to earn this one and actually overcome some adversity. I think this fight should really show people she's actually a fighter. It's not some gimmick. It's not some publicity stunt. She's a legit fighter. We've seen plenty of male fighters show less heart than she showed tonight. I also think it was really awesome that they had Big John reffing the first ever women's fight in the UFC. That's how it should be.
All right, now that that's out of the way, lol, this is one of the better fight cards I've enjoyed in a while. Hendo/Machida was easily the worst fight on it (which is pretty pathetic). I really blame Machida more than Henderson because he just wouldn't engage. Henderson had to chase him and lunge at him, only to get countered with a little peppering here and there before Machida danced away again. Machida seriously fights like he's in a fencing match...and it just doesn't impress me. If he thinks he can do that shit against Jon Jones, he's going to get prison choked standing up again.
Pretty much all of my picks won. Nice to see Faber get a convincing win again. Nice to see Court McGee and Michael Chiesa get wins. And AWESOME to see Josh Koscheck get KTFO. People can complain that the stoppage was early, but he didn't have his hands up. If you're not out of it enough to continue fighting, then cover your damn head and stop eating punches.
And the main event really couldn't have gone better for the UFC (especially after the snoozer that was Hendo/Machida). Ronda had to earn this one and actually overcome some adversity. I think this fight should really show people she's actually a fighter. It's not some gimmick. It's not some publicity stunt. She's a legit fighter. We've seen plenty of male fighters show less heart than she showed tonight. I also think it was really awesome that they had Big John reffing the first ever women's fight in the UFC. That's how it should be.
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']Ronda is my hero!
All right, now that that's out of the way, lol, this is one of the better fight cards I've enjoyed in a while. Hendo/Machida was easily the worst fight on it (which is pretty pathetic). I really blame Machida more than Henderson because he just wouldn't engage. Henderson had to chase him and lunge at him, only to get countered with a little peppering here and there before Machida danced away again. Machida seriously fights like he's in a fencing match...and it just doesn't impress me. If he thinks he can do that shit against Jon Jones, he's going to get prison choked standing up again.
Pretty much all of my picks won. Nice to see Faber get a convincing win again. Nice to see Court McGee and Michael Chiesa get wins. And AWESOME to see Josh Koscheck get KTFO. People can complain that the stoppage was early, but he didn't have his hands up. If you're not out of it enough to continue fighting, then cover your damn head and stop eating punches.
And the main event really couldn't have gone better for the UFC (especially after the snoozer that was Hendo/Machida). Ronda had to earn this one and actually overcome some adversity. I think this fight should really show people she's actually a fighter. It's not some gimmick. It's not some publicity stunt. She's a legit fighter. We've seen plenty of male fighters show less heart than she showed tonight. I also think it was really awesome that they had Big John reffing the first ever women's fight in the UFC. That's how it should be.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much my exact thoughts except I actually liked Machida-Henderson.. I guess because I was highly intoxicated.
All right, now that that's out of the way, lol, this is one of the better fight cards I've enjoyed in a while. Hendo/Machida was easily the worst fight on it (which is pretty pathetic). I really blame Machida more than Henderson because he just wouldn't engage. Henderson had to chase him and lunge at him, only to get countered with a little peppering here and there before Machida danced away again. Machida seriously fights like he's in a fencing match...and it just doesn't impress me. If he thinks he can do that shit against Jon Jones, he's going to get prison choked standing up again.
Pretty much all of my picks won. Nice to see Faber get a convincing win again. Nice to see Court McGee and Michael Chiesa get wins. And AWESOME to see Josh Koscheck get KTFO. People can complain that the stoppage was early, but he didn't have his hands up. If you're not out of it enough to continue fighting, then cover your damn head and stop eating punches.
And the main event really couldn't have gone better for the UFC (especially after the snoozer that was Hendo/Machida). Ronda had to earn this one and actually overcome some adversity. I think this fight should really show people she's actually a fighter. It's not some gimmick. It's not some publicity stunt. She's a legit fighter. We've seen plenty of male fighters show less heart than she showed tonight. I also think it was really awesome that they had Big John reffing the first ever women's fight in the UFC. That's how it should be.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much my exact thoughts except I actually liked Machida-Henderson.. I guess because I was highly intoxicated.
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Wow...so Jose Aldo is refusing to fight Anthony Pettis because he "doesn't deserve it". I get that it's weird to have guys dropping from 155 and getting immediate title shots...but these are top guys. Otherwise, you throw Ricardo Lamas or Cub Swanson in there with Aldo...and I don't think either of them is ready for that. 155 is so crowded right now, I don't blame guys for dropping down. I think Aldo is just used to always being the bigger fighter, and now that other guys are catching on, he's pissed. Love Dana's quote on it though. "The Fight is on. He's either going to fight Pettis or he's not going to like how this turns out."
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jose-aldo-refuses-fight-anthony-095329039--mma.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jose-aldo-refuses-fight-anthony-095329039--mma.html
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^Huge divas. It's one reason I'm happy there's not a powerful UFC fighter's union. How can a champ come out and refuse to fight someone? That's garbage.
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Wow...so Jose Aldo is refusing to fight Anthony Pettis because he "doesn't deserve it". I get that it's weird to have guys dropping from 155 and getting immediate title shots...but these are top guys. Otherwise, you throw Ricardo Lamas or Cub Swanson in there with Aldo...and I don't think either of them is ready for that. 155 is so crowded right now, I don't blame guys for dropping down. I think Aldo is just used to always being the bigger fighter, and now that other guys are catching on, he's pissed. Love Dana's quote on it though. "The Fight is on. He's either going to fight Pettis or he's not going to like how this turns out."
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jose-aldo-refuses-fight-anthony-095329039--mma.html[/QUOTE]
pettis is a great striker, i think he matchs up realy well with aldo and i dont think aldo likes that. really disappointing for a champ. he should fight whoever is put in front of him, how is it his place to decide who "deserves" the right to fight him? crazy.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jose-aldo-refuses-fight-anthony-095329039--mma.html[/QUOTE]
pettis is a great striker, i think he matchs up realy well with aldo and i dont think aldo likes that. really disappointing for a champ. he should fight whoever is put in front of him, how is it his place to decide who "deserves" the right to fight him? crazy.
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Explaining why Jose Aldo is an idiot.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--f...is-misguided-and-short-sighted-174742490.html
I like it. Tell him he takes the fight or gets stripped of his belt. And in case any crazy person wants to compare this to the Jon Jones/Chael Sonnen incident from last year, there's a big difference between refusing to fight a replacement fighter with one weeks notice and refusing to an arranged opponent 6 months in advance. The champion has no business turning down a fight with that much notice. Jose Aldo needs the UFC way more than the UFC needs Jose Aldo. If he wants to go to Bellator to fight for peanuts with hardly any exposure, tell him to go for it.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--f...is-misguided-and-short-sighted-174742490.html
I like it. Tell him he takes the fight or gets stripped of his belt. And in case any crazy person wants to compare this to the Jon Jones/Chael Sonnen incident from last year, there's a big difference between refusing to fight a replacement fighter with one weeks notice and refusing to an arranged opponent 6 months in advance. The champion has no business turning down a fight with that much notice. Jose Aldo needs the UFC way more than the UFC needs Jose Aldo. If he wants to go to Bellator to fight for peanuts with hardly any exposure, tell him to go for it.
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^Agreed completely. Aldo and his crew saying Pettis "doesn't deserve it" is a total cop-out and it doesn't even make sense. It's Aldo's job to fight and win, it's the UFC brass' job to determine who the best and most deserving fighters all.
Pettis can be a scary guy, but I don't know why Aldo is so freaked by him. I think Aldo can take him easily if he fights a smart fight.
Pettis can be a scary guy, but I don't know why Aldo is so freaked by him. I think Aldo can take him easily if he fights a smart fight.
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More news on Nick Diaz possibly getting pulled from his fight with GSP...and the best quote ever from Dana White.
[quote name='Danaing White']"All the fans are like, 'Shut up, Dana. Let Nick fight.' You shut up, idiots. This is how it works. This is the job. This is what we do. Go to your f---ing job and tell your boss, 'I don't want to this or that.' That's not how it works. It's part of the job. I've shown the Diaz brothers a ton of respect. They can show some respect back. I hope I don't even have to think about that. It's the last thing on earth I want to do."[/QUOTE]
http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/...o-losing-ufc-158-fight-with-georges-st-pierre
LMAO...I love Dana. "You shut up, idiots." He talks trash like one of your co-workers in a lunch break basketball league. I'm just waiting for him to respond to a question with something like "Yeah, well, your mom thought it was a pretty good idea." Hilarious. Again, I don't blame him. The thing is, if you're going to pull Diaz from another fight, you might as well cut him. At some point, he's just a complete waste of time, and he's never going to change. Again...he needs the UFC more than they need him.
[quote name='Dana
ing White']"All the fans are like, 'Shut up, Dana. Let Nick fight.' You shut up, idiots. This is how it works. This is the job. This is what we do. Go to your f---ing job and tell your boss, 'I don't want to this or that.' That's not how it works. It's part of the job. I've shown the Diaz brothers a ton of respect. They can show some respect back. I hope I don't even have to think about that. It's the last thing on earth I want to do."[/QUOTE]http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/...o-losing-ufc-158-fight-with-georges-st-pierre
LMAO...I love Dana. "You shut up, idiots." He talks trash like one of your co-workers in a lunch break basketball league. I'm just waiting for him to respond to a question with something like "Yeah, well, your mom thought it was a pretty good idea." Hilarious. Again, I don't blame him. The thing is, if you're going to pull Diaz from another fight, you might as well cut him. At some point, he's just a complete waste of time, and he's never going to change. Again...he needs the UFC more than they need him.
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Found out my bro works out with Phil Davis. I mean he's a pussy at striking but still pretty cool.
I thought this was an interesting article. The stance taken by that pair of politicians baffles me, I cannot understand the infantile logic that led to that rep's comment.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...lls-mma-child-porn-sports-211336228--mma.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...lls-mma-child-porn-sports-211336228--mma.html
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[quote name='paz9x']I thought this was an interesting article. The stance taken by that pair of politicians baffles me, I cannot understand the infantile logic that led to that rep's comment.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...lls-mma-child-porn-sports-211336228--mma.html[/QUOTE]
Yeah, well, you know...they just got electricity in South Dakota. Once they get done scrubbing their clothes in the washtub, maybe they can listen to some of the fights on their new victrola. And people wonder why professional sports doesn't go anywhere near South Dakota.
In other news, shockingly, the Aldo - Pettis fight is back on...but with one condition as mandated by Aldo. The winner of the fight gets a title shot at Lightweight next. Pretty stupid that Aldo gets to call this his "condition" as though he has a choice...but considering Pettis was already in line for a Lightweight shot and Dana just got done saying that if Aldo moved up to Lightweight, he'd be the #1 contender, it's a pretty idiotic "condition" anyway.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...t-championship-fight-back-163108212--mma.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...lls-mma-child-porn-sports-211336228--mma.html[/QUOTE]
Yeah, well, you know...they just got electricity in South Dakota. Once they get done scrubbing their clothes in the washtub, maybe they can listen to some of the fights on their new victrola. And people wonder why professional sports doesn't go anywhere near South Dakota.
In other news, shockingly, the Aldo - Pettis fight is back on...but with one condition as mandated by Aldo. The winner of the fight gets a title shot at Lightweight next. Pretty stupid that Aldo gets to call this his "condition" as though he has a choice...but considering Pettis was already in line for a Lightweight shot and Dana just got done saying that if Aldo moved up to Lightweight, he'd be the #1 contender, it's a pretty idiotic "condition" anyway.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...t-championship-fight-back-163108212--mma.html
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']In other news, shockingly, the Aldo - Pettis fight is back on...but with one condition as mandated by Aldo. The winner of the fight gets a title shot at Lightweight next. Pretty stupid that Aldo gets to call this his "condition" as though he has a choice...but considering Pettis was already in line for a Lightweight shot and Dana just got done saying that if Aldo moved up to Lightweight, he'd be the #1 contender, it's a pretty idiotic "condition" anyway.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's completely idiotic. If Aldo moved up to 155, why on earth wouldn't he get a title shot right away (most would consider him a pound-for-pound better fighter than Bendo) and like you say, Pettis was already the #1 contender.
My only real problem with this is that it's going to take a minor miracle for Bendo to keep that belt around his waist through all of 2013. He wants to be one of the best ever, he's got his chance to start proving it.
Yeah it's completely idiotic. If Aldo moved up to 155, why on earth wouldn't he get a title shot right away (most would consider him a pound-for-pound better fighter than Bendo) and like you say, Pettis was already the #1 contender.
My only real problem with this is that it's going to take a minor miracle for Bendo to keep that belt around his waist through all of 2013. He wants to be one of the best ever, he's got his chance to start proving it.
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I didn't catch any fights, but I'm disappointed that Struve lost. From what I read sounds like there were a few controversial decisions as well.
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Damn...this is why you never keep your hands down against mothering Mark Hunt.
https://twitter.com/StefanStruve/status/308097103190687744
"Thanks for the support everybody, I wanted Herb to take the tooth out of my cheek and continue but then it turned out my jaw was broken.." -Stefan Struve on twitter
ing Mark Hunt.https://twitter.com/StefanStruve/status/308097103190687744
"Thanks for the support everybody, I wanted Herb to take the tooth out of my cheek and continue but then it turned out my jaw was broken.." -Stefan Struve on twitter
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[quote name='Calipso']Anyone saying Struve should be cut should be burned alive.
Future UFC HW Champion in the making.[/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
Also, how close is Brian Stann to being irrelevant? Had a really nice run for a little while, but guy seems like he's about done.
Future UFC HW Champion in the making.[/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
Also, how close is Brian Stann to being irrelevant? Had a really nice run for a little while, but guy seems like he's about done.
[quote name='n8rockerasu']
Also, how close is Brian Stann to being irrelevant? Had a really nice run for a little while, but guy seems like he's about done.[/QUOTE]
I think he wanted to just slug it out honestly. Hes always been irrelevant in terms of championships, but hes shows up to fight. Hes far from being irrelevant as a fighter, hes entertaining, I know if hes in a boring fight its not because of him and I appreciate that.
Also, couldnt have been happier to see wand get a ko like that in that arena, love wand.
I have no idea how diego got that decision. There is no way, no way he won 2 or 3. 1st round he probably won but i could understand an argument that gomi won all three. as bad a decision as Ive seen I laughed out loud when they announced it.
Also, how close is Brian Stann to being irrelevant? Had a really nice run for a little while, but guy seems like he's about done.[/QUOTE]
I think he wanted to just slug it out honestly. Hes always been irrelevant in terms of championships, but hes shows up to fight. Hes far from being irrelevant as a fighter, hes entertaining, I know if hes in a boring fight its not because of him and I appreciate that.
Also, couldnt have been happier to see wand get a ko like that in that arena, love wand.
I have no idea how diego got that decision. There is no way, no way he won 2 or 3. 1st round he probably won but i could understand an argument that gomi won all three. as bad a decision as Ive seen I laughed out loud when they announced it.
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
Also, how close is Brian Stann to being irrelevant? Had a really nice run for a little while, but guy seems like he's about done.[/QUOTE]
Struve had ZERO fight IQ that night. Sad shit.
Every time he had mount, he gave up position for a failed armbar.
Neither fighter deserved to win. Hunt nailed him with a great hook and broke his jaw. Sloppy fight, not entertained at all. Watching HW's gassing is so 1990's.
Side-note: Why is nobody talking about the guy who removed his dick and wants to fight women?
Also, how close is Brian Stann to being irrelevant? Had a really nice run for a little while, but guy seems like he's about done.[/QUOTE]
Struve had ZERO fight IQ that night. Sad shit.
Every time he had mount, he gave up position for a failed armbar.
Neither fighter deserved to win. Hunt nailed him with a great hook and broke his jaw. Sloppy fight, not entertained at all. Watching HW's gassing is so 1990's.
Side-note: Why is nobody talking about the guy who removed his dick and wants to fight women?
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[quote name='Calipso']Struve had ZERO fight IQ that night. Sad shit.
Every time he had mount, he gave up position for a failed armbar.
Neither fighter deserved to win. Hunt nailed him with a great hook and broke his jaw. Sloppy fight, not entertained at all. Watching HW's gassing is so 1990's.
Side-note: Why is nobody talking about the guy who removed his dick and wants to fight women?[/QUOTE]
The thing is, future champions don't get duped into sloppy fights. I agree about HW's gassing though. Any fighter whose answer to cardio training is "I'll just KO the guy in the first 2 minutes of the fight" is a joke. Hunt will never challenge for the title...and Struve losing to him tosses him back down the ladder as well.
As for the transgender fighter, I don't even know how you can make a ruling on that one way or the other without being accused of something dispicable. I guess with extensive medical study, if it can be legitimately proven that someone who was born as a male has no chemical or muscular advantage after undergoing all of the hormonal therapy and whatever, then you have to allow it.
But I don't understand the mentality of this fighter. He believes he's a woman...and he wants to beat up women for a living. I like to think of myself as a very liberal and tolerant person...but something about that just feels off.
Having said that...it looks like this fighter wasn't even properly licensed anyway and is now being investigated.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...a-fighter-investigation/1966201/?sf10174977=1
Every time he had mount, he gave up position for a failed armbar.
Neither fighter deserved to win. Hunt nailed him with a great hook and broke his jaw. Sloppy fight, not entertained at all. Watching HW's gassing is so 1990's.
Side-note: Why is nobody talking about the guy who removed his dick and wants to fight women?[/QUOTE]
The thing is, future champions don't get duped into sloppy fights. I agree about HW's gassing though. Any fighter whose answer to cardio training is "I'll just KO the guy in the first 2 minutes of the fight" is a joke. Hunt will never challenge for the title...and Struve losing to him tosses him back down the ladder as well.
As for the transgender fighter, I don't even know how you can make a ruling on that one way or the other without being accused of something dispicable. I guess with extensive medical study, if it can be legitimately proven that someone who was born as a male has no chemical or muscular advantage after undergoing all of the hormonal therapy and whatever, then you have to allow it.
But I don't understand the mentality of this fighter. He believes he's a woman...and he wants to beat up women for a living. I like to think of myself as a very liberal and tolerant person...but something about that just feels off.
Having said that...it looks like this fighter wasn't even properly licensed anyway and is now being investigated.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...a-fighter-investigation/1966201/?sf10174977=1
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So it sounds like Silva/Weidman is on for July. Anyone think Weidman has got a chance?
Middleweight division lives or dies with Weidman. Silva wins and that's the death of 185 in the UFC. From there, Silva would probably only fight superfights/special attractions until he chooses to retire. There is no one else at 185 that has a chance at beating Silva that isn't named Weidman.
Of course, wins over Munoz and Maia mean little to nothing in comparison to fighting/beating Silva. The only person on Earth with a chance of beating Silva is Jones. Silva trucks GSP, JDS, and probably even Velasquez (especially if Kongo is able to rock Velasquez). Silva is just a freak of nature. Deceptive dynamite in his hands for his lean appearance, more than capable off his back, and, when healthy, good enough TDD to halt a TRT-driven Sonnen, who has arguable some of the best wrestling in MMA.
Of course, wins over Munoz and Maia mean little to nothing in comparison to fighting/beating Silva. The only person on Earth with a chance of beating Silva is Jones. Silva trucks GSP, JDS, and probably even Velasquez (especially if Kongo is able to rock Velasquez). Silva is just a freak of nature. Deceptive dynamite in his hands for his lean appearance, more than capable off his back, and, when healthy, good enough TDD to halt a TRT-driven Sonnen, who has arguable some of the best wrestling in MMA.
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I didn't listen to the conference call, but from reading about it, it made Diaz look like an ever bigger idiot then I ever thought possible. I don't understand a lot of what he was trying to say, mostly seemed like semi-thought out ramblings.
I don't like GSP, but I still hope he kicks Diaz' ass.
I don't like GSP, but I still hope he kicks Diaz' ass.
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Hunt vs JDS at UFC 160 in May, I am excited about his fight. I wonder if Junior will attempt any takedowns against Hunt because while JDS can pick him apart, it is very dangerous against Hunt with his titanium head and very heavy hands it could go bad for him with one well timed punch.
edit - I'm sure most of the people on this thread have seen this, but it still blows my mind.
edit - I'm sure most of the people on this thread have seen this, but it still blows my mind.
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Hmmm...I must have totally missed the news where Overeem dropped out of his fight with JDS.
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[quote name='tylerh1701']Hmmm...I must have totally missed the news where Overeem dropped out of his fight with JDS.[/QUOTE]
He's "injured".
He's "injured".
bread's done