Mod Chip On, Xbox Live Off -- Permanently

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So, I messed up and had my ethernet cable plugged in while my mod chip was on. The crafty Xbox Live detected it, and now I can't log on with that system. I fear I have to buy a new Xbox just to play Live. Anyone else have any suggestions? I may try to get a crystal one if I can, but I don't want to spend $300 on one.

By the way, my mod chip is for WORK ONLY. It's to play review/preview code, so please don't say it serves me right for being down with piracy. I'm quite the opposite.
 
[quote name='iufoltzie']It still serves you right.[/quote]

:imwithst:

Never heard of you needing a mod chip to play "preview/review" discs.. especially since "review discs" are 100% legal copies that were pressed.
 
I think it's pretty well known in CAG that I'm a game journalist. Thus, I get preview/review ROMS from publishers for coverage that don't work in standard retail units. Since I haven't been able to get a Dev Kit from Microsoft (and probably won't, what with new hardware around the corner), I've had to install the chip to play the stuff.

Now, hopefully I'm done defending myself and will get some actual advice on my problem. A guy can hope, right?
 
Yes, J is definately on the up and up people. He is one of those rare cases in which theres a legit reason for xbox modification.

That said, the fixes you seek arent easy. Dashboard reloading, rebiosing, stuff like that. Anyway, its all mod stuff and even tho you have a legit reason to mod, 99% of the people that do, dont. So, odds are pretty good this will get locked and while J is legit, I dont think CAG can selectively enforce the mod talking ban because mods and cheapy have better things to do then try to decide if a person is a legit modder or not.

Anyway J, good luck to you. If I were you, take stock of just how vital live is you to. If it is, best to just bite the bullet and buy a new xbox. From what Ive heard unless you are really skilled at the mod and altereration stuff, your more likely to mess up your xbox then fix it,.
 
Haha.. if it's 'well known', i'd send a letter to MS and ask my account to be unbanned.. though it was pretty stupid to sign up for Live on a system that's modded.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Haha.. if it's 'well known', i'd send a letter to MS and ask my account to be unbanned.. [/quote]

So long as a legitimate company would send credentials saying that he works for them, yes, it could work. However, I think he may freelance plus Microsofts never been known for its kindness. Its worth a shot but I still think a new xbox is going to be needed. Consider the new one a business expense.

[quote name='scorch']hough it was pretty stupid to sign up for Live on a system that's modded.[/quote]

Well thank god youve never done anything stupid in your entire life. I bet alot of us wish we could say the same.
 
do you use a toggle switch? i guess it would be the same difference seeing you have to remember to switch mod off and on just like you have to plug and unplug ethernet cable. oh well, i'd look for a broken xbox on ebay...one that has a faulty drive. buy it on the cheap and replace cannibalize it :twisted:

i don't know what you should do since i've never been caught, but can you just start new account, or does it zap your machine somehow?
 
i think the question should be where did u get the modded box, how much did u pay, and what are the extras it has? :D
 
[quote name='bowmanarmy']It doesn't serve you right... Your just a dumbass[/quote]

...and YOU need to learn how to spell "you're" before you call ANYONE a dumbass.

jerkoff.
 
[quote name='ViolentLee']So, I messed up and had my ethernet cable plugged in while my mod chip was on. The crafty Xbox Live detected it, and now I can't log on with that system. I fear I have to buy a new Xbox just to play Live. Anyone else have any suggestions? I may try to get a crystal one if I can, but I don't want to spend $300 on one.

By the way, my mod chip is for WORK ONLY. It's to play review/preview code, so please don't say it serves me right for being down with piracy. I'm quite the opposite.[/quote]

:rofl:
 
It's a long, painful process to get back on Live with the same machine once it's been banned. I have a friend who is a programmer - for Live, even - at Microsoft, and he did the same thing - accidentally went on Live with his mod chip switched on. Instant ban.
He ended up just buying a new X-Box...
 
[quote name='Scorch']Haha.. if it's 'well known', i'd send a letter to MS and ask my account to be unbanned.. though it was pretty stupid to sign up for Live on a system that's modded.[/quote]

Scorch, you're officially a trolling jerkoff in my book now. Congratulations. I no longer care about your opinion, so I won't bother defending myself against your weak insults. Even though your reputation was "well known," I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Oh well; some people are just assclowns.

Thanks to those who offered some real suggestions here. I'll PM you, Dijital, though I'll probably just end up buying another unit. I've been talking to my contacts at Microsoft, and they don't seem too optimistic about a solution. This has happened to several journalists lately, from what I understand.
 
[quote name='ViolentLee'][quote name='Scorch']Haha.. if it's 'well known', i'd send a letter to MS and ask my account to be unbanned.. though it was pretty stupid to sign up for Live on a system that's modded.[/quote]

Scorch, you're officially a trolling jerkoff in my book now. Congratulations. I no longer care about your opinion, so I won't bother defending myself against your weak insults. Even though your reputation was "well known," I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Oh well; some people are just assclowns.

Thanks to those who offered some real suggestions here. I'll PM you, Dijital, though I'll probably just end up buying another unit. I've been talking to my contacts at Microsoft, and they don't seem too optimistic about a solution. This has happened to several journalists lately, from what I understand.[/quote]

What was wrong with the first part of his post? If it's so legit, and if you have proof that you are a journalist and you use it to play press-cds, then why would Microsoft have a problem? Just call them up, his suggestion was perfectly valid and logical.
 
I think the only thing you can do is buy a new Xbox. I can't see Microsoft allowing a Modded Xbox on Live, even if the MOD was necessary, like it is in this case.
 
[quote name='Scorch']though it was pretty stupid to sign up for Live on a system that's modded.[/quote]

not so stupid to do...IF you do it correctly.
 
[quote name='evilmax17'][quote name='ViolentLee'][quote name='Scorch']Haha.. if it's 'well known', i'd send a letter to MS and ask my account to be unbanned.. though it was pretty stupid to sign up for Live on a system that's modded.[/quote]

Scorch, you're officially a trolling jerkoff in my book now. Congratulations. I no longer care about your opinion, so I won't bother defending myself against your weak insults. Even though your reputation was "well known," I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Oh well; some people are just assclowns.

Thanks to those who offered some real suggestions here. I'll PM you, Dijital, though I'll probably just end up buying another unit. I've been talking to my contacts at Microsoft, and they don't seem too optimistic about a solution. This has happened to several journalists lately, from what I understand.[/quote]

What was wrong with the first part of his post? If it's so legit, and if you have proof that you are a journalist and you use it to play press-cds, then why would Microsoft have a problem? Just call them up, his suggestion was perfectly valid and logical.[/quote]

why in the world would the microsoft support people go out of their way (and rules) to assist a handful of people? Microsoft might not have a problem with journalists using modded xbox's to play beta code, but they certainly will not make exceptions to banning modded xbox's from xbox live.
 
[quote name='ViolentLee']I think it's pretty well known in CAG that I'm a game journalist. Thus, I get preview/review ROMS from publishers for coverage that don't work in standard retail units. Since I haven't been able to get a Dev Kit from Microsoft (and probably won't, what with new hardware around the corner), I've had to install the chip to play the stuff.

Now, hopefully I'm done defending myself and will get some actual advice on my problem. A guy can hope, right?[/quote]

But you have to see where we're coming from. It's much easier to assume stuff that to remember to keep your mind open. We're lazy and we suck, so that's that we do.
 
im guessing security is microsoft's main concern here.my guess is microsoft does a permanent ban so there is no way to hack a way back in without permission.


sorry, good luck :)
 
[quote name='organicow'][quote name='bowmanarmy']It doesn't serve you right... Your just a dumbass[/quote]

...and YOU need to learn how to spell "you're" before you call ANYONE a dumbass.

jerkoff.[/quote]

ZING!!!!!!!! :rofl:
 
I've heard things about using a USB stick with a ethernet to usb wire or something like that. Probably the easiest way to find a way to get around that is to look at the numerous illegal guides on the web.

Im much unlike the majority, believe your case. Goodluck.
 
i think you could change the mac address for your box and it will work. You'll have to change it to a valid one though. They ban the mac address not your account.
 
Yeah, I hear it basically blacklists some type of signature deep in the bowels of your Xbox hardware. Removing that would no doubt be a throbbing pain. It's a lot more complex technically than, say, having your account banned for profanity on Halo 2.

I guess the moral is: If you have a mod chip, make sure your ethernet cable is unplugged when the chip is toggled on (mine has dipswitches), as the system always tries to hook up with Live. I'd been very good about this, but one slip-up is all it takes. I'm not blaming anyone but myself. It's the price you pay, I guess (not to mention $150 for another Xbox :wink: ).
 
Scorch, you're officially a trolling jerkoff in my book now. Congratulations. I no longer care about your opinion, so I won't bother defending myself against your weak insults. Even though your reputation was "well known," I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Oh well; some people are just assclowns.
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..uh, what? I offer legitimate advice (which would probably work) and take a lighthearted stab at your situation, and you go off? Right. Get over yourself, drama queen.

Thanks to those who offered some real suggestions here.
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..Calling Microsoft and explaining the situation WAS a real suggestion.

None of this changes the fact that Scorch is a jerk off.
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Hi. Who are you?
 
[quote name='delahappy']i think you could change the mac address for your box and it will work. You'll have to change it to a valid one though. They ban the mac address not your account.[/quote]
This is 100% false, they do no ban your MAC, they ban your EEPROM
 
[quote name='Scorch']
Scorch, you're officially a trolling jerkoff in my book now. Congratulations. I no longer care about your opinion, so I won't bother defending myself against your weak insults. Even though your reputation was "well known," I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Oh well; some people are just assclowns.
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..uh, what? I offer legitimate advice (which would probably work) and take a lighthearted stab at your situation, and you go off? Right. Get over yourself, drama queen. [/quote]

Maybe I was a little harsh, but questioning my problem then calling me stupid for a simple mistake really didn't help the situation. On this internet thing, it's sometimes hard to tell the lighthearted stabs from the malicious insults because it's tough to judge context. Reading back over your comments, they weren't as mean-spirited as I originally thought. I apologize -- maybe I was having ilovemyapplesduh flashbacks of when I posted about being ripped off, and pimptyranny jumped on me for accepting the deal I was offered.

But, I digress. I have been talking to contacts at Microsoft, like I said. But like I've also said, I think it's a much more complicated thing than unbanning an account, because it's the console that's banned. I have a few people kind enough to PM me some really good advice, so I'll look into some options and see if it's worth my time to try to fix.
 
Maybe I was a little harsh, but questioning my problem then calling me stupid for a simple mistake really didn't help the situation. On this internet thing, it's sometimes hard to tell the lighthearted stabs from the malicious insults because it's tough to judge context. Reading back over your comments, they weren't as mean-spirited as I originally thought. I apologize -- maybe I was having ilovemyapplesduh flashbacks of when I posted about being ripped off, and pimptyranny jumped on me for accepting the deal I was offered.
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It's cool, man. I've never had a problem with anyone on the board. I wasn't trying to be rude, and i'm not saying I've never done something stupid (Ever tried to stick Arby's in the microwave without removing the tin foil? Yeah, had a nice little microwave fire when I was 10.), I was just poking fun at the situation (even though it's really not funny).

I'm sorry that you got burned by ilovemyapplesduh. I was burned as well, it took me three months and a loooooot of phone calls to get my stuff back. It wasn't on these forums (though he posted here, I think, and a scam alert has since been issued). Even if I don't like someone (and for the record, the only person who's ever gotten on my nerves here is Manimal), I would never burn them. So yeah, I was just kidding around with you, and i'm glad you realized that.

Could you not write down the console serial number and give them it? I think a search would pull it up.. i'm sure all they do is take the serial number from the XBox and just add it to a list.
 
[quote name='organicow'][quote name='bowmanarmy']It doesn't serve you right... Your just a dumbass[/quote]

...and YOU need to learn how to spell "you're" before you call ANYONE a dumbass.

jerkoff.[/quote]

He's the one from Bowman, remember? :rofl:

If anyone wants to question Violentlee's credentials, I've got the issues of Game Informer that will shut your cake-hole. :whistle2:#
 
That sucks, but you shoudn't have risked in the first place man, legit or no, avid xbox gamers should know not to mix a modded xbox with Live service. I don't really know any technical stuff but I'd just get a new xbox. Who knows if Xbox Next turns out to be backwards compatible you could trade one in towards that. Or if you don't use live too much, then just forget about it I guess. Also, I wouldn't get a crystal one either, because if it's the same crystal one I'm thinking of, it wouldn't play US games with modding that one and end up in the same boat.
 
[quote name='neocisco'][quote name='organicow'][quote name='bowmanarmy']It doesn't serve you right... Your just a dumbass[/quote]

...and YOU need to learn how to spell "you're" before you call ANYONE a dumbass.

jerkoff.[/quote]

He's the one from Bowman, remember? :rofl:

If anyone wants to question Violentlee's credentials, I've got the issues of Game Informer that will shut your cake-hole. :whistle2:#[/quote]

Oh, now Game Informer. If that's journalism, then so is Fox News. :lol:

VL also does work for gamespy; the remaining man on earth who reviews N-Gage titles.

myke.
...not going to bring up my 'box.
 
Everyone go read the part where Scorch pretends he doesn't know who I am. It's funny. But not in a Ha Ha kinda way.
 
[quote name='supadupacheap']Yes, J is definately on the up and up people. He is one of those rare cases in which theres a legit reason for xbox modification. [/quote]
Don't be a troll, there are perfectly reasonable and legal reasons to mod your Xbox. Such as running homebrew code. Don't fall for the fallacy that its illegal to modify your own personal property. Its not like your cable box, that you lease, use on a closed network, and has no real legal use for modification.

But thats neither here nor there. Violentlee, you need a new EEPROM for your Xbox, MS bans your EEPROM only, not your account. But, I would suggest in the future that you keep 2 Xboxes around, have one modded and used exclusively for your beta code, and whatever homebrew stuff you'd like to play with, and have another one for your gaming, and XBL. Its generally a good idea to keep your work related stuff separate anyway.
 
there's an option in the dashboard that will let you input a code to sign on to Live. Turn it on

for now on the system wont go Live unless you input the code (button presses)
 
[quote name='acrimonious1']Work related = tax write off for new Xbox?[/quote]

That's true indeed. All game purchases are write-offs for me. :)
But, working freelance all last year, I'm going to owe a bundle when the taxman cometh. :cry:
 
[quote name='dafoomie'][quote name='supadupacheap']Yes, J is definately on the up and up people. He is one of those rare cases in which theres a legit reason for xbox modification. [/quote]
Don't be a troll, there are perfectly reasonable and legal reasons to mod your Xbox. Such as running homebrew code. Don't fall for the fallacy that its illegal to modify your own personal property. Its not like your cable box, that you lease, use on a closed network, and has no real legal use for modification.

But thats neither here nor there. Violentlee, you need a new EEPROM for your Xbox, MS bans your EEPROM only, not your account. But, I would suggest in the future that you keep 2 Xboxes around, have one modded and used exclusively for your beta code, and whatever homebrew stuff you'd like to play with, and have another one for your gaming, and XBL. Its generally a good idea to keep your work related stuff separate anyway.[/quote]

Wise words, Dafoomie. My cheap ass should've gotten a non-work Xbox a while ago. Don't even get me started on my PS2 and its slide trick. ::sigh:: At least I had two PS2s, until the movers stole one.
 
[quote name='Richter']there's an option in the dashboard that will let you input a code to sign on to Live. Turn it on

for now on the system wont go Live unless you input the code (button presses)[/quote]

Now ya tell me, Richter. ;)
Actually, I have to input a code to log on. However, when my Xbox is/was gameless and turned on, it would default to Live anyway, and somehow communicate with my account despite the lack of code. Or maybe I'm thinking of something different.
 
[quote name='organicow'][quote name='bowmanarmy']It doesn't serve you right... Your just a dumbass[/quote]

...and YOU need to learn how to spell "you're" before you call ANYONE a dumbass.

jerkoff.[/quote]

Poohead
 
I don't really follow the logic of not mixing a modded Xbox with Live.

If you buy 2 Xboxes one to mod and one to play on Live, you've bought 2 Xboxes

If you buy 1 Xbox, mod it and switch the mod off to play on Live. You've bought 1 Xbox. Now let's say you slip up like VL, so you have to buy a new Xbox for Live. You've now bought 2 Xboxes.

I don't see the problem with doing the toggle the mod on and off thing. Doesn't seem to cost you anything extra if you screw up, and saves you the cost of an Xbox if you can keep your stuff straight.
 
[quote name='ViolentLee']So, I messed up and had my ethernet cable plugged in while my mod chip was on. The crafty Xbox Live detected it, and now I can't log on with that system. I fear I have to buy a new Xbox just to play Live. Anyone else have any suggestions? I may try to get a crystal one if I can, but I don't want to spend $300 on one.

By the way, my mod chip is for WORK ONLY. It's to play review/preview code, so please don't say it serves me right for being down with piracy. I'm quite the opposite.[/quote]


This is exactly what I did. I told myself for awhile that I'd get a new EEPROM, but I never did. I eventually bought another Xbox this past Christmas. IMO, you should go ahead and buy another one, but if don't want to, then I'm pretty sure a new EEPROM should do the trick. You can usually find one on mod chip forums or chat rooms on IRC.
 
[quote name='Richter']there's an option in the dashboard that will let you input a code to sign on to Live. Turn it on

for now on the system wont go Live unless you input the code (button presses)[/quote]


Uh...no.
 
[quote name='XboxMaster'][quote name='Richter']there's an option in the dashboard that will let you input a code to sign on to Live. Turn it on

for now on the system wont go Live unless you input the code (button presses)[/quote]


Uh...no.[/quote]

But what you CAN do is turn off auto-login. I don't know if that stops the Xbox from "phoning home" though.
 
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