MODS PLEASE LOCK - MLB 2007 Season Thread

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Tomorrow night I'm gonna be at work, and I have a feeling I'm not going to be able to pull my magic of picking up Cleveland AM radio stations on my little clock radio at work.

Is there any easy way to tell if a local radio station is broadcasting the game?
 
[quote name='Chitown021']Eric Byrnes is an idiot "The Rockies haven't outplayed us.... they've had a little luck go thier way." Yeah and sweeping the Cubs was just luck as well. The Cubs actually outplayed the D-Backs, they just got lucky on those homerun swings and all of those ground balls that lead to the Cubs hitting into double plays....:dunce:[/quote]

Indeed, get over it already! Cubs lost!

Glad to see the Rockies make it to the WS, hopefully they don't waste it and win it.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Good game for Jake compared to his start against the Yankees.[/quote]

Good start for Jake, but he was getting some gift calls on 3-0 counts. The one pitch to Ramirez was literally a FOOT inside. Dice-K called the same calls, so it's no excuse, the tribe outplayed the sox last night.

I just find it hard to believe that this is the 1st or 2nd best umpiring crew in the sport.

Especially after the terribly umpired Colorado-San Diego play-in game.
 
[quote name='paddlefoot']Good start for Jake, but he was getting some gift calls on 3-0 counts. The one pitch to Ramirez was literally a FOOT inside. Dice-K called the same calls, so it's no excuse, the tribe outplayed the sox last night.

I just find it hard to believe that this is the 1st or 2nd best umpiring crew in the sport.

Especially after the terribly umpired Colorado-San Diego play-in game.[/quote]Agreed. Whoever it was that was behind the plate was very inconsistent -- both ways, mind you -- and you know it's pretty bad when the commentators are even starting to question your ability.
 
Let's see how the knuckleball dances tonight.

Wakefield has provided us with A LOT of ups and downs. Despite his iffy ERA and wild knuckeball over the year, I think watching Wakefield pitch is really intense because when it works... well it works really well. Should be a interesting game tonight. Hopefully the Sox can keep the series alive.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']Let's see how the knuckleball dances tonight.

Wakefield has provided us with A LOT of ups and downs. Despite his iffy ERA and wild knuckeball over the year, I think watching Wakefield pitch is really intense because when it works... well it works really well. Should be a interesting game tonight. Hopefully the Sox can keep the series alive.[/quote]

It will be alive for at least one more game anyways. :)
 
fuck. Those first four innings looked like a duel, but now Wakefield is giving it up. If the bats don't wake up now the Sox are finished.
 
[quote name='senorwoohoo']fuck.

I thought the Sox would do better if I didn't watch since I consider myself unlucky.

Looks like I was wrong.[/quote]

Sox got very unlucky with bullets being hit at people. I.E. Byrd's was lucky to only give up the two.

The pitching by the starters is another story entirely. The last 3 starters haven't gotten through 5 innings!

If only Wakefield hadn't lunged at that sure double-play ball, coupled with Youks missing a foulball out gave the Cleveland WAY to many opportunities that inning. After that the tribe just unloaded. You can't give an offense like Cleveland 5-6 outs in an inning.


And now it's 7-3
 
I wish the Red Sox played the Yankees, at least if the games were as boring they could call the police out to the field again.



LET'S GO ROCKIES!
 
[quote name='Xevious']Awesome!

The Red Sox are still very dangerous though....Make no mistake.[/quote]

Are you crazy? The Sox blew it yet again, time to move on to the World Series. LET'S GO ROCKIES!!!!!!
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']Are you crazy? The Sox blew it yet again, time to move on to the World Series. LET'S GO ROCKIES!!!!!![/quote]

I'm from Cleveland. We are used to things going wrong at the end.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']Are you crazy? The Sox blew it yet again, time to move on to the World Series. LET'S GO ROCKIES!!!!!![/QUOTE]

Remember the Sox blew it against the Yankees and still ended up going to the world series and winning it, and they were in a worst scenario: 3-0. Yeah it was a miracle, but the Sox were struggling versus the Yankees. If the Sox manage to somehow win the next game the last two will be at Boston. I'm not taking off my hat till the series is over.

Either way I would NOT want to face Colorado. Good luck with that.
 
Yes I remember that, and that was amazing. But out of the 26 times that a team had been done 3 to 0 it was the only time it happened.

And Boston has much MUCH worse luck than sh... Cleveland. Boston is known for it, they have a curse people really believed.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']Yes I remember that, and that was amazing. But out of the 26 times that a team had been done 3 to 0 it was the only time it happened.

And Boston has much MUCH worse luck than sh... Cleveland. Boston is known for it, they have a curse people really believed.[/QUOTE]
If you need to see a team that came back and won 3 in a row, look at the 99 ALDS.

If Beckett can win Thursday and get this series back to Boston, it won't be impossible. But, with Beckett's 'stiffness' and a lineup full of stiffs, thats a big if.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']If you need to see a team that came back and won 3 in a row, look at the 99 ALDS.

If Beckett can win Thursday and get this series back to Boston, it won't be impossible. But, with Beckett's 'stiffness' and a lineup full of stiffs, thats a big if.[/quote]

Sorry Boston. I think the series is over on Thursday. I'm from Cleveland, but have no love for the Indians. But I will say one thing, somebody needs to knock Manny on his ass! Not only is he killing the ball right now, but he's acting like an ass with the staring and hands in the air on MEANINGLESS home runs! Dude is begging for a pitch in his ear. I wish Cleveland would man up and drop his ass with some chin music. C.C. is big enough and has the mid to high nineties fastball, but I bet he doesn't even come close.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']

Either way I would NOT want to face Colorado. Good luck with that.[/quote]

I think the American leaque is much stronger than the national league. Sure, you guys beat up the diamondbacks pretty good but I don't understand all the hype the Rockies are getting. Both the Indians and the Red Sox are stronger teams than the diamondbacks and therefore they face a stronger opponent in the future.
 
I will say this Boston is capable of coming back, they have the pitching, they have the veterans, they have the hitting, and they have the talent. It's just a matter of being able to pull it all together.
 
And if... and if... and if....

That's all anyone here is saying. Boston is out of it.

If Boston can get it together...

Well they couldn't the last three games.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']And if... and if... and if....

That's all anyone here is saying. Boston is out of it.

If Boston can get it together...

Well they couldn't the last three games.[/QUOTE]

I don't think they can do it, Cleveland has this in the bag, just saying I wouldn't completely rule out a slight comeback from the bo sox.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']And if... and if... and if....

That's all anyone here is saying. Boston is out of it.

If Boston can get it together...

Well they couldn't the last three games.[/quote]

Yeah, that's what i am saying. I think it's wishful thinking for Boston's fans mostly. Even if Beckett beats C.C. in game 5, they still have to go up against Carmona again! And to tell you the truth, his stuff is better than C.C.'s. So, at the most, it goes 6. I can't see it going any further than that.

As for Colorado and the NL, on paper, it looks like ANY AL team would smash ANY NL team. But never underestimate! Colorado has won 22 of 23. That's ridiculous! The worst part for them is the layoff until the World Series. I will say this, it will probably be a better series than most people would think.
 
[quote name='galvatron2k1']Yeah, that's what i am saying. I think it's wishful thinking for Boston's fans mostly. Even if Beckett beats C.C. in game 5, they still have to go up against Carmona again! And to tell you the truth, his stuff is better than C.C.'s. So, at the most, it goes 6. I can't see it going any further than that.

As for Colorado and the NL, on paper, it looks like ANY AL team would smash ANY NL team. But never underestimate! Colorado has won 22 of 23. That's ridiculous! The worst part for them is the layoff until the World Series. I will say this, it will probably be a better series than most people would think.[/QUOTE]

Boston will have Schilling and Dice k
 
[quote name='mr ryles']Boston will have Schilling and Dice k[/quote]
Exactly. I'll take Carmona, thank you. Carmona's sinker when it's DOWN in the zone is UNHITTABLE. And I'm willing to bet his control won't be as bad as in game 2.
 
[quote name='Xevious']I think the American leaque is much stronger than the national league. Sure, you guys beat up the diamondbacks pretty good but I don't understand all the hype the Rockies are getting. Both the Indians and the Red Sox are stronger teams than the diamondbacks and therefore they face a stronger opponent in the future.[/quote]They haven't lost a game since mid-September. I don't care how "weak" you think the National League is, to go for a month (1/2 of which was in the playoffs) without losing a game is darn impressive and frightening to think about for fans of the other World Series contenders.

At least the Indians have shown themselves to be vulnerable so, ideally, they won't have immense hubris nor have a meltdown if they lose a game.

And yes, Manny reminds me of that kid in middle school who thought everything he did was amazing. That homerun was great. Almost as good as that pop-fly.
 
The Rockies are definitely scary right now, but the Indians have had a bit of luck going their way through the playoffs as well -- from the midges vs NYY to Ortiz getting hit with that groundball in game 3, just to name a few. Sure, they're played well, but it doesn't hurt to have a little luck on your side
-- especially when you could play a team as hot as the Rockies starting on Wednesday.
 
[quote name='daroga']They haven't lost a game since mid-September. I don't care how "weak" you think the National League is, to go for a month (1/2 of which was in the playoffs) without losing a game is darn impressive and frightening to think about for fans of the other World Series contenders.

At least the Indians have shown themselves to be vulnerable so, ideally, they won't have immense hubris nor have a meltdown if they lose a game.

And yes, Manny reminds me of that kid in middle school who thought everything he did was amazing. That homerun was great. Almost as good as that pop-fly.[/quote]
As impressive as that streak is, it may backfire with this week-long break that can interrupt that rhythm they've had going.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']As impressive as that streak is, it may backfire with this week-long break that can interrupt that rhythm they've had going.[/quote]I agree, and the inenvitable over-confidence that comes with being so successful for so long. It's the type of thing that makes me wonder if maybe 0-6 Miami might beat New England this Sunday. I doubt it, but you never know.

What why I think the one loss to New York and the (at least) one loss to Boston is good for Cleveland. It keeps them honest and reminds them that they're not just the be-all, end-all of baseball and have some weaknesses they need to be mindful of.

I must say, I love that it looks to be that the 3rd lowest payroll and the 7th lowest payroll in baseball will be going head to head in the world series. Can anyone enlighten me as to how that works exactly? How does one team get to spend on average of 7+ million on each player, and another team can only spend 14+ million on the whole team? Is each team just a for-profit company that can generate extra money for players via tickets, merchandise, etc.?
 
[quote name='daroga']I agree, and the inenvitable over-confidence that comes with being so successful for so long. It's the type of thing that makes me wonder if maybe 0-6 Miami might beat New England this Sunday. I doubt it, but you never know.

What why I think the one loss to New York and the (at least) one loss to Boston is good for Cleveland. It keeps them honest and reminds them that they're not just the be-all, end-all of baseball and have some weaknesses they need to be mindful of.

I must say, I love that it looks to be that the 3rd lowest payroll and the 7th lowest payroll in baseball will be going head to head in the world series. Can anyone enlighten me as to how that works exactly? How does one team get to spend on average of 7+ million on each player, and another team can only spend 14+ million on the whole team? Is each team just a for-profit company that can generate extra money for players via tickets, merchandise, etc.?[/quote]
It depends on the owner and whether they want to put much money into the team or just not care about the salary cap. Cleveland, Colorado, Florida, and many others refuse to put a lot into the team, so they have to develop their talent instead of buying it. If you're over the salary cap, all that happens is that you get a fine, which is why New York and Boston (I think they're over the cap) can just pay and can just afford to keep those expensive players happy.
 
[quote name='daroga']I agree, and the inenvitable over-confidence that comes with being so successful for so long. It's the type of thing that makes me wonder if maybe 0-6 Miami might beat New England this Sunday. I doubt it, but you never know.

What why I think the one loss to New York and the (at least) one loss to Boston is good for Cleveland. It keeps them honest and reminds them that they're not just the be-all, end-all of baseball and have some weaknesses they need to be mindful of.

I must say, I love that it looks to be that the 3rd lowest payroll and the 7th lowest payroll in baseball will be going head to head in the world series. Can anyone enlighten me as to how that works exactly? How does one team get to spend on average of 7+ million on each player, and another team can only spend 14+ million on the whole team? Is each team just a for-profit company that can generate extra money for players via tickets, merchandise, etc.?[/quote]

That damn Japanese Red Sox pitcher who sucks was paid 100 million, and then the Japanese baseball team was paid another 50 million. That could be the cost for several teams for several years and that's just one (bad) pitcher!
 
Is this going to be the shortest post season of all time? We are two games over the minimum so far (with the Yankees win in the ALDS and the Red Sox win in the ALCS). I feel so cheated.
 
[quote name='galvatron2k1']Yeah, that's what i am saying. I think it's wishful thinking for Boston's fans mostly. Even if Beckett beats C.C. in game 5, they still have to go up against Carmona again! And to tell you the truth, his stuff is better than C.C.'s. So, at the most, it goes 6. I can't see it going any further than that.

As for Colorado and the NL, on paper, it looks like ANY AL team would smash ANY NL team. But never underestimate! Colorado has won 22 of 23. That's ridiculous! The worst part for them is the layoff until the World Series. I will say this, it will probably be a better series than most people would think.[/QUOTE]
They handled Carmona just fine in game 2. Game 2 was very, very close.

If Beckett can pull out the win on the road, they've got 2 games at home. If Cleveland doesn't end this series Thursday, it'll become a Michael Vick style dogfight.

Don't worry so much about Matsuzaka. Beckett took an entire year just to adjust from the NL to the AL. He had a 5 ERA last year, look at him now. No one thought that Matsuzaka was going to come in and dominate in his first year.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']That damn Japanese Red Sox pitcher who sucks was paid 100 million, and then the Japanese baseball team was paid another 50 million. That could be the cost for several teams for several years and that's just one (bad) pitcher![/quote]

no it was a total of approx $106 or so million...he is only getting roughly 10mill a season...They didn't overpay for him as a pitcher, considering the other free agent pitchers were gil meche making roughly $10mill, barry zitto and jason schmidt are in the $16 - 18mill a season range. Yes they paid a shit load to talk to him, (about $54 million), but it kept him from the yanks, if they didn't sign him they lose nothing, and by signing him they get to tap into a market they had no revenue from. The merchandise and tv rights alone in 1 - 2 seasons will take care of the $54 mill posting fee. In theory, they are paying him in the $10mill range and even know he struggled this year imo it was worth it considering the fact that they were paying $9mill to clement who didn't throw a pitch.

as for the series, I still think the indians are going to win. I do believe the redsox will win the next game. Beckett has been dominat in the playoffs, and sabithia has pitched shitty. The problem the redsox have had with the last 2 indian pitchers is that they pound the strike zone. The redsox hitters are patient and take a lot of pitches. Going down 0 - 2 or 1 - 2 in a count makes it a lot more difficult to produce. It worked for them vs sabithia and carmona, but byrd and westbrook were throwing straight fastball strikes for the first pitch and I don't remember seeing to many swings by redsox hitters on the easy straight fastballs. I don't think schilling will pitch as bad if he is pitching game 6. But, it is unlikely carmona will pitch as bad as well.
 
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