Muslim Group Apologizes For All Terrorism Done In Their Name

PittsburghAfterDark

PittsburghAfterDark

CAGiversary!
Now obviously these people are racists. They must be a front group of white Republican men because they say the same thing I've been asking for for years. If they're not racists, they're bigots. They clearly hate their religion and anyone that isn't them. I'm sure they carry a bible under their arm, want tax cuts, support killing Muslim children.... I mean, this can't REALLY be right can it? There can't REALLY be a group of Muslims somewhere that have the same sense of decency that I do can there? There can't be REAL Muslims anywhere that realize what I've been saying that their religion has been hijacked and they need to stand up or be marginalized as a dangerous cult can there?

Wow, it hurts to be this right and some of you to be so very very wrong.

Friday, September 10, 2004

We Are So Sorry for 9-11

This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history.

After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and “intellectuals” blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and “steal” Iraqi oil.

After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11?

If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia?

If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain?

If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places?

If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings?

If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour?

If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women?

What will we apologize for?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic?

What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult?

Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop.

Muslims must look inward and put a stop to many of our religious leaders who spend most of their sermons teaching hatred, intolerance and violent jihad. We should not be afraid to admit that as Muslims we have a problem with violent extremism. We should not be afraid to admit that so many of our religious leaders belong behind bars and not behind a pulpit.

Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims; we should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists; we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports.

Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against terror, we need to take the lead in this war.

As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and “intellectuals” to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11.

We are so sorry that 3000 people were murdered in our name. We will never forget the sight of people jumping from two of the highest buildings in the world hoping against hope that if they moved their arms fast enough that they may fly and survive a certain death from burning.

We are sorry for blaming 9-11 on a Jewish or right wing conspiracy.

We are so sorry for the murder of more than three hundred school children and adults in Russia.

We are so sorry for the murder of train passengers in Spain.

We are so sorry for all the victims of suicide bombings. We are so sorry for the beheadings, abductions, rapes, violent Jihad and all the atrocities committed by Muslims around the world.

We are so sorry for a religious education that raised killers rather than train people to do good in the world. We are sorry that we did not take the time to teach our children tolerance and respect for other people.

We are so sorry for not rising up against the dictators who have ruled the Muslim world for decades.

We are so sorry for allowing corruption to spread so fast and so deep in the Muslim world that many of our youth lost hope.

We are so sorry for allowing our religious leaders to relegate women to the status of forth class citizens at best and sub-humans at worse.

We are so sorry.
Link
freemuslims.org
 
If that group is taking responsibility, shouldn't we be bombing them now?

I must've missed the part where they apologized for Saddam Hussein...
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']If that group is taking responsibility, shouldn't we be bombing them now?

I must've missed the part where they apologized for Saddam Hussein...[/quote]

In that it doesn't fit your politics I am not suprised:

"We are so sorry for not rising up against the dictators who have ruled the Muslim world for decades. "

CTL
 
Next lets have the all the christians apologize for causing so many wars, deaths, and forced conversions throughout their existence.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']Next lets have the all the christians apologize for causing so many wars, deaths, and forced conversions throughout their existence.[/quote]

Could you have brought up a less relevant point?
 
[quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']Next lets have the all the christians apologize for causing so many wars, deaths, and forced conversions throughout their existence.[/quote]

Could you have brought up a less relevant point?[/quote]

actually it is relevant, because the people who are apologizing have nothing to do with happens all over the world. Its one thing to apologize for your own action, its another to be doing it for your whole religous group. Thats like me apologizin to other people for u bein an ass, it is not going to mean anything cause it is coming from the wrong person. So my example of what other christians have done in the past is relevant. Because no one is going to apologize to the Muslims or Jews for the Crusades and even if they did, it wouldnt do anything.
 
As an American I would like to apologize to the rest of the world for the asshats running our country. We understand the damage they have done to the US and the world and we are sorry. We are doing our best to get rid of them but they have powerful friends (who they make richer) so it's not easy. Please bear with us until January 20th.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']As an American I would like to apologize to the rest of the world for the asshats running our country. We understand the damage they have done to the US and the world and we are sorry. We are doing our best to get rid of them but they have powerful friends (who they make richer) so it's not easy. Please bear with us until January 20th.[/quote]
Right on!
We're sorry that 12,000 innocents in Iraq were killed in the illegal war against Iraqi "terrorism" even though the UN found no evidence of WMD in Iraq.
We're sorry about the crimes that took place at Abu Ghraib. The inhumanity of those "soldiers" in no way represents our country of just and truly compassionate people. (This does not include those who use the word "compassionate" as part of a campaign slogan.)
We're sorry that shit-for-brains called for a "crusade" after 9-11.
We're sorry that American corporations have profitted from the suffering of others. (BTW- These corporations profiting from the war include Halliburton. In spite of his claims that he has severed all financial ties, Dick Cheney still owns 433,000 stock options and receives around $150,000 in deferred compensation, and he stands to gain significantly from the fact that the corporation has received billions of dollars in no-bid contracts. Sources at end of post.)
We're sorry that many of the corporations who may not directly profit from the war are still profitting from the abuse of people in other parts of the world. This includes sweat-shops, child labor, and the like. (Nike, Wal-Mart, Adidas, Disney, etc.)
We're sorry that we enforce democracy abroad and undermine it here in the US. (Patriot Act)
We're sorry that those in power are alienating others across the globe and carrying on political atrocities in our name every day. We assure you that the majority of our people did not elect this president, and few aside from the ignorant or stubborn, still support his self-serving policies.

We are a country of good and honest people. We are sympathetic to the plights of others across the globe, and there are many (myself included) who do not support what is going on right now.

Sources-
Dick's kickbacks from Halliburton- http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040216fa_fact
Dick's stock options-
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/25/halliburton.memo/
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']Next lets have the all the christians apologize for causing so many wars, deaths, and forced conversions throughout their existence.[/quote]

I love how alot of the far left wingers denounce PAD for what people like to call his apparent hostility toward muslims on this board and then make yourself a huge hypocrite by using the same style of hostility to denounce christians. Niether way is at all the right way to go...
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell'][quote name='Ikohn4ever']Next lets have the all the christians apologize for causing so many wars, deaths, and forced conversions throughout their existence.[/quote]

I love how alot of the far left wingers denounce PAD for what people like to call his apparent hostility toward muslims on this board and then make yourself a huge hypocrite by using the same style of hostility to denounce christians. Niether way is at all the right way to go...[/quote]

It's not being hostile to christianity to point out that it, like every other major religion in the world, has blood on its hands.
 
yes we're sorry for what our country's leader has done, and some of us are working hard to get him out of power so we can install a new leader who has a face similar to that of a horse, and who slayed innocent civilians in vietnam. Please bear with us in these next few months, because soon we will have a president who wont do shit about terrorism abroad, so you can soon step up your terrorist activities and start planning more attacks on the united states.
 
Yes, it's very important to choose a president based on his face. That's why I always vote for the candidate I find most sexually attractive.
 
[quote name='Cracka']i'm glad you refuted that instead of the point i made of him slaying civilians..[/quote]
Didn't he also realize that what he was doing was wrong and try to take action to prevent further instances of this from occurring? This is more than we can say for the murderer we have in office. I would also doubt that Kerry had a hand in the deaths of 12,000. I'm reasonably sure that none of his friends profited from that war. That is, unfortunately, the scenario we are looking at now. I'm sure that the recruiter didn't fully disclose what exactly would take place. As Kerry said himself, "We were sent to Vietnam to kill Communism. But we found instead that we were killing women and children." I'm sure that our troops in Iraq did not want to kill 12,000 innocents there. I thought it was clever the way you totally ignored the fact that Kerry protested the war after he saw what it entailed. I'm sure it was just an oversight. :wink:
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark'] There can't be REAL Muslims anywhere that realize what I've been saying that their religion has been hijacked and they need to stand up or be marginalized as a dangerous cult can there?[/quote]

...their religion isn't hijacked you dumbass, there are well over a billion Muslims all over the world and only a few thousand are extremists.

And Islam is recognised and respected throughout the entire world, the only people who view it as a cult are bigots such as yourself.

AND THE WINTER SOLDIER TESTIMONY WAS A COMPILATION OF HUNDREDS OF SOLDIERS TESTIMONIES WHICH WAS DELIVERED TO CONGRESS BY JOHN KERRY. IT WAS NOT A fuckING MURDER CONFESSION LIKE YOU RNC JACKASSES ARE TRYING TO PORTRAY IT AS.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']
...their religion isn't hijacked you dumbass, there are well over a billion Muslims all over the world and only a few thousand are extremists.
[/quote]
This is exactly right. Of course the only Muslims we hear about are the radicals. Would a newspaper article entitled, "Muslim Prays To Allah, Goes About Normal Day," help to sell any newspapers? We have to realize that we are living in a society that is totally driven by profit. Are we getting an accurate picture of what is actually happening in the world, or are we seeing the most sensational stories that will secure more viewers to sell to during commercial breaks? The latter is sadly the case.
 
It is shameful that in response to a group of people taking responsibility for terrorist acts done in their name that people on this forum used it as an opportunity to denigrate the US and Christianity.

But it is hardly suprising.

It would be telling to take a poll and see how many members of this forum wish to see the US fail in Iraq.

CTL
 
[quote name='CTLesq']It is shameful that in response to a group of people taking responsibility for terrorist acts done in their name that people on this forum used it as an opportunity to denigrate the US and Christianity.

But it is hardly suprising.

It would be telling to take a poll and see how many members of this forum wish to see the US fail in Iraq.

CTL[/quote]
I've got no problems with the US or Christianity, but the actions we are taking/have taken are wrong. To quote Mark Twain, "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it."

We've killed almost 12,000 civilians. What is failure if not that? I'm not concerned with whether or not we can put another tally in the US "win" column.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']If that group is taking responsibility, shouldn't we be bombing them now?

I must've missed the part where they apologized for Saddam Hussein...[/quote]

If im not mistaken didnt the U.S. help put Saddam into power.......
 
[quote name='whoknows'][quote name='MrBadExample']If that group is taking responsibility, shouldn't we be bombing them now?

I must've missed the part where they apologized for Saddam Hussein...[/quote]

If im not mistaken didnt the U.S. help put Saddam into power.......[/quote]

More specifically, Ronald Reagan put him in power, the man that, when he died, the news stations shut down for a week in his honor so they could use the stations for memorials.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla'][quote name='whoknows'][quote name='MrBadExample']If that group is taking responsibility, shouldn't we be bombing them now?

I must've missed the part where they apologized for Saddam Hussein...[/quote]

If im not mistaken didnt the U.S. help put Saddam into power.......[/quote]

More specifically, Ronald Reagan put him in power, the man that, when he died, the news stations shut down for a week in his honor so they could use the stations for memorials.[/quote]

Maybe you should check the facts before posting (again):

http://www.emergency.com/hussein1.htm

On July 16, 1979, President Bakr resigned, officially due to health problems, but in reality a victim of Hussein's political in-fighting. Moving quickly to consolidate his power, he called a major Baathist meeting on July 22, 1979. During the meeting, various family members and other Hussein devotees urged that the party be "cleansed". Hussein then read a list of names and asked that they step outside. Once there, they are taken into custody.

A high-ranking member of the Revolutionary Command, the head of the labor unions, the leading Shiite member of the Command, and twenty (20) others are then systematically and personally killed by Hussein and his top party officials. During the next few days, reports indicate that as many as 450 other military officers, deputy prime ministers, and "non-party faithful" were rounded up and killed. This purge insured Hussein's consolidation of power in Iraq.
Click to expand...

Obviously, Reagan wasn't in power in 1979. D'oh...
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']oops.

I mean Jimmy Carter.

More specifically, the CIA.

More specifically, the bastards that think they run the government.[/quote]

Judging from your comments, I think you would agree with me that the secret intelligence people are about to be given way, way too much power if this 9/11 commission stuff passes Congress.
 
They used to have to operate as a 'shadow government', but I do believe they are going to be given a lot more power.

It's a huge problem, and I think we would need outside help (maybe the UN) to clear things up.

The first thing that need to go is the secrecy.
We should know EXACTLY what laws, acts, etc. are being put through congress, we should get status reports from organizations such as the USDA and the EPA, and every document more than 5 years old should be decassified.

And that's just the beginning.

Did you know that all information regarding the Roswell incident was declassified? The 500 foot high air ballon made of tinfoil and balsa wood that they were going to fly over the Kremlin?

Strangely, the FBI (which had total jurisdiction) report is still classified.
You get get it through the FOIA, but it is an oddly small file covered in black ink with the codes b1a and b1b all over it.

Decades later they are still lying to us.
 
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