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Muslim leaders have condemned the attacks on London and said they fear their communities could now fall prey to vigilante attacks.
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Muslim Association of Britain president Ahmed Sheikh said the attacks would make the Muslim community less safe.

He said women in headscarves might be in particular danger and warned all Muslims to be especially vigilant.

Muslim News editor Ahmed Versi noted one of London's biggest Muslim areas, around Aldgate, had been targeted.

Mr Sheikh said the unique good relationship Muslims had with the government and society was threatened. "The person who did this was targeting along with wider British society the Muslim community, ruining the good relationship we have."



He said the police should consider extra protection for mosques and Islamic schools and said Muslims, particularly women in headscarves, should be vigilant and avoid unnecessary journeys.

"It is scary. A tiny element of the community will make use of this. It is a blow to us, to all of us. It is a moment of sadness and we send our condolences to the families of those who have been killed or injured."

Sir Iqbal Sacranie of the Muslim Council of Britain said he utterly condemned the attacks.

"We are simply appalled and want to express our deepest condolences to the families.

"These terrorists, these evil peoplewant to demoralise us as a nation and divide us.

"All of must unite in helping the police to hunt these murderers down."

Mr Sacranie admitted "there may well be elements who want to exploit this tragedy and incite hatred".

Attacks danger

Mr Versi said he had already received one threatening e-mail about the blasts.

"There might be some increase in attacks on the Muslim community especially visible aspects of Islam like mosques, community centres and women with headscarves.

"Recently there have been a lot of attacks on Muslim women on buses in London, it has increased during the last few months."

But he said the immediate Muslim revulsion at the attacks could help calm the situation.

"I don't think there'll be as high a number of attacks as after 11 September because Muslims have come out very strongly, especially Muslim leaders, condemning the attacks.

"I'm sure many Muslims will have been injured as well... one of the bombs - at Aldgate - was near to the east London mosque, it's a very heavy Muslim area.

"Muslims have to be vigilant now, especially the mosques, and I hope the police will increase security on mosques and Islamic centres."

Other religious leaders also offered their condolences and condemned the attack.

Chief Rabbi Sir Jonathan Sacks said: "These terrible events have brought home to us the full evil that terror represents.

"It is not the weapon of the weak against the strong but the rage of the angry against the defenceless and innocent. It is an evil means to an evil end. "I will be asking all our congregations to say special prayers for the victims and their families this Sabbath. We grieve for the dead, pray for the injured and share our tears with the bereaved."
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660411.stm
 
Why is it sad? They've let their religion be hijacked. They know what mosques in their communities are sympathetic to these causes, they know who is raising funds, they know who is sheltering foreigners. They're completely aware of what is in their midsts and do nothing about it. The only thing muslim "leaders" do is come forward and cry about discrimination and tolerence for their faith. Yet they do nothing about the problems in their own faith that they are fully aware of.

I feel no empathy for these people. None.

It's no different than what happened in the south around the times of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You had murdering, lynching and bombing Klansmen out killing blacks and their white Yankee cohorts. When something happened everyone in town knew it was the Klan and more than likely knew who did it before the FBI questioned one person. Yet none came forward, none went against their neighbors and none did anything about the evil in their midst.

It's no different now. In fact it's on a much greater muderous scale now than the Klan could ever have imagined. You want the world and population at large to stop thinking of you as terrorists, sympathizers or coddlers? Turn these people in. If you're doing the right thing to protect your faith be brave about it. If you protect the innocent as proscribed by Mohammed and are murdered for doing so you'll be admitted to Paradise according to your faith.

Anything less than this is cowardice and not worthy of our tolerence or understanding.
 
So you both are of the opinion that people that allow horrible things to be done in their name bear no responsibility? I am willing to bet you that in the days and weeks come forward those responsible had been in London for some time. I'm willing to go further that they were sheltered by or funded by a radical slanted mosque. There will be muslims questioned after the fact that knew of these people but didn't think they were doing anything more than listening to a "controversial" Imam or perhaps speaking figuratively.

It's no secret I hold no love for muslims and generally distrust the entire faith at the inaction of their leaders. What, this is news?

Are you truly that clueless as what my personal biases are? Wow, you are dumb.
 
So if all Muslims have either direct or indirect ties to Al Qaeda and all of them at least silently support it, does that mean all Christians have ties to and support the Ku Klux Klan?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Why is it sad? They've let their religion be hijacked. They know what mosques in their communities are sympathetic to these causes, they know who is raising funds, they know who is sheltering foreigners. They're completely aware of what is in their midsts and do nothing about it. The only thing muslim "leaders" do is come forward and cry about discrimination and tolerence for their faith. Yet they do nothing about the problems in their own faith that they are fully aware of.[/QUOTE]

Replace "mosques" with "churches", and "muslim" with "religious right" and you have what's happening with our country, our president.
 
Muslim leaders have condemned the attacks on London and said they fear their communities could now fall prey to vigilante attacks.
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Good, maybe enough fear will be put in them to get off their asses and stop supporting terrorists behind the scenes. A few vigilante killings would do nicely. In fact I'm on the brink of going Death Wish on some terrorist supporting asses.

Muslim Association of Britain president Ahmed Sheikh said the attacks would make the Muslim community less safe.
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Yeah, forget all of the people who died and their families. Let's only worry about the safety of the muslim community. :roll:

fuck all those mother fuckers!!
 
Scrubking:

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[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Why is it sad? They've let their religion be hijacked. They know what mosques in their communities are sympathetic to these causes, they know who is raising funds, they know who is sheltering foreigners. They're completely aware of what is in their midsts and do nothing about it. The only thing muslim "leaders" do is come forward and cry about discrimination and tolerence for their faith. Yet they do nothing about the problems in their own faith that they are fully aware of. [/QUOTE]


Are you saying they're at fault for not stopping terrorism simply because they share the religion. Even that is a tenuous claim seeing how the ones doing the bombings are EXTREMISTS.

What have you done about catholic priests molesting children or bashing gays? Oh wait, you approve of that.

Have you done anything to stop crooked politicians? You're an American just like them. Why haven't you stopped them from robbing from the poor to feed the rich? ... Oh yea, you approve of that too.
 
Wow.... this post makes you almost as stupid as PAD.
They offered their condolences to those who lost people. However, your post is proof of how valid their concern is.

Extreemist Christians bomb abortian clinics, does that mean we can drag all other Christians into the street and beat them to death?

Get a fucking clue.


[quote name='Scrubking']Good, maybe enough fear will be put in them to get off their asses and stop supporting terrorists behind the scenes. A few vigilante killings would do nicely. In fact I'm on the brink of going Death Wish on some terrorist supporting asses.


Yeah, forget all of the people who died and their families. Let's only worry about the safety of the muslim community. :roll:

fuck all those mother fuckers!![/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']Replace "mosques" with "churches", and "muslim" with "religious right" and you have what's happening with our country, our president.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you're right. In fact I'm surprised that Bush hasn't called for a Christian Crusdae in churches around the country calling on the religous right to plant bombs on subways and busses in blue states and cities.

You really are one dumb son of a bitch aren't you?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Yeah, you're right. In fact I'm surprised that Bush hasn't called for a Christian Crusdae in churches around the country calling on the religous right to plant bombs on subways and busses in blue states and cities.

You really are one dumb son of a bitch aren't you?[/QUOTE]

Right... instead hes out blocking gay rights, preventing life saving research like stem cells and destroying the environment... Much better.
 
[quote name='Kayden']Are you saying they're at fault for not stopping terrorism simply because they share the religion. Even that is a tenuous claim seeing how the ones doing the bombings are EXTREMISTS.

What have you done about catholic priests molesting children or bashing gays? Oh wait, you approve of that.

Have you done anything to stop crooked politicians? You're an American just like them. Why haven't you stopped them from robbing from the poor to feed the rich? ... Oh yea, you approve of that too.[/QUOTE]

I'm not Catholic. If I were I'd have the priests removed from their positions, would call in law enforcement immediately and have them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I love the gay argument, not accepting sin isn't bashing gays.

Robbing the poor? Who can rob the poor? Why would you rob the poor? What do the poor have to steal? They're poor!
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']Replace "mosques" with "churches", and "muslim" with "religious right" and you have what's happening with our country, our president.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, not to mention that the catholic church condoned priests sodomizing little boys for years, the baptists openly hate gay people, however the muslim faith has come right out and denounced these fringe groups that commit terrorism.
 
I love how a thread about Muslim terrorists immediately loses focus and becomes an attack on Christians. And to think I doubted the ADD statistics the drug companies keep putting out despite the evidence right in front of me......
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']KILL ALL MUSLIMS!!!

Hey, you tuned this into a Christian bashing topic, fucking assholes![/QUOTE]

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[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I'm not Catholic. If I were I'd have the priests removed from their positions, would call in law enforcement immediately and have them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I love the gay argument, not accepting sin isn't bashing gays.

Robbing the poor? Who can rob the poor? Why would you rob the poor? What do the poor have to steal? They're poor![/QUOTE]
Calling their way of life sin is gay bashing. Why is it sin? Is it because they have sex before they're married? We'll 1, who doesn't, and 2) they aren't allowed to get married.

As for stealling for not being able to steal from the poor... I don't even think you can pretend to not see the dispartity in incomes.


[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I love how a thread about Muslim terrorists immediately loses focus and becomes an attack on Christians. And to think I doubted the ADD statistics the drug companies keep putting out despite the evidence right in front of me......[/QUOTE]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I was just bringing it up as a point of reference. You're bashing the entire religion for the acts of a few. I was trying to point out that other religions have problems that are just as unsightly.
 
I can't speak for anyone else, but I was just bringing it up as a point of reference. You're bashing the entire religion for the acts of a few. I was trying to point out that other religions have problems that are just as unsightly.
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You have the nerve to compare the killing of thousands of innocent people to someone's right to believe homosexuality is wrong?

Someone does indeed need to get a clue, but it ain't me.

Calling their way of life sin is gay bashing. Why is it sin?
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1. No it isn't.
2. Because God says so, and since he made everything he has the right to set the rules.
 
Next week's breaking news:

The terrorists involved in last week's attack in London all came from Iran. Prime Minister Tony Blair, along with his close ally President George Bush, have promised that those terrorists will be brought to justice, no matter how many Iranian civilians die in the impending invasion.
 
[quote name='coffman']Next week's breaking news:

The terrorists involved in last week's attack in London all came from Iran. Prime Minister Tony Blair, along with his close ally President George Bush, have promised that those terrorists will be brought to justice, no matter how many Iranian civilians die in the impending invasion.[/QUOTE]

Excellent. I look forward to carpet bombing Tehran with fuel air explosives and turning it into a graveyard for millions. I've been waiting for this since 1979.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Excellent. I look forward to carpet bombing Tehran with fuel air explosives and turning it into a graveyard for millions. I've been waiting for this since 1979.[/QUOTE]
Genocide is bad, unless we are killing Arabs, then it's okay.
 
PAD threads are like that damn electricfied cupcake. I know its gunna hurt to touch, but I keep doing it anyways.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Yeah, you're right. In fact I'm surprised that Bush hasn't called for a Christian Crusdae in churches around the country calling on the religous right to plant bombs on subways and busses in blue states and cities.

You really are one dumb son of a bitch aren't you?[/QUOTE]

How about the "Crusade", as Bush put it, in the middle east right now?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Excellent. I look forward to carpet bombing Tehran with fuel air explosives and turning it into a graveyard for millions. I've been waiting for this since 1979.[/QUOTE]

You sound like a terrorist to me.
 
I love how quick you all are to try to cover up what PAD was orginally talking about with diversionary tactics. If you are covering up for a bad person, then you are doing a bad thing. It doesn't matter that they might be of the same race or religion as you. I did notice that no one has denied PAD's assertion that the muslim community silently supports terrorists and their acts. Whether or not christians do the same thing is immaterial. Whether or not PAD is biased against Muslims, doesn't change the fact that his point is valid. Unfortunately, attempts at character assassination won't refute his point. Muslim leaders should be calling on their own community to do all it can to stop these attacks instead of just trying to avoid the fallout. To do anything less is tacitly condoning these acts of terrorism.
 
[quote name='atreyue']Muslim leaders should be calling on their own community to do all it can to stop these attacks instead of just trying to avoid the fallout. To do anything less is tacitly condoning these acts of terrorism.[/QUOTE]

So you want the mosque to train a team of spec ops clerics to clear out any terrorist activity.

It's a religion. It doesn't hunt down terrorists, governments do that. The most that the organizational body of the religion can do is denounce the act, and they did that. That's more then the baptists did for gay bashing, not to mention the active efforts of catholics to cover up their pedo sex scandal. Nice to see there are two standards, one is impossibly high for Islam and the other disgustingly low (and still unable to be met) for organized christianity.
 
[quote name='camoor']So you want the mosque to train a team of spec ops clerics to clear out any terrorist activity.

It's a religion. It doesn't hunt down terrorists, governments do that. The most that the organizational body of the religion can do is denounce the act, and they did that. That's more then the baptists did for gay bashing, not to mention the active efforts of catholics to cover up their pedo sex scandal. Nice to see there are two standards, one is impossibly high for Islam and the other disgustingly low (and still unable to be met) for organized christianity.[/QUOTE]
:cool: Thanks, I'm too busy to feed the trolls.
 
Get this: Faux News says that the bombings "work to our advantage" --

Fox News' Brian Kilmeade: London terror attack near G8 summit "works to ... Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together"

The following exchange between Fox News host Brian Kilmeade and Fox News business contributor and substitute host Stuart Varney occurred during breaking news coverage of the attacks on London subways and buses on the July 7 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

KILMEADE: And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right at the point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warming off the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.

KILMEADE: Yeah.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200507070005

How fortunate for us. :roll:
 
[quote name='camoor']So you want the mosque to train a team of spec ops clerics to clear out any terrorist activity.

It's a religion. It doesn't hunt down terrorists, governments do that. The most that the organizational body of the religion can do is denounce the act, and they did that. That's more then the baptists did for gay bashing, not to mention the active efforts of catholics to cover up their pedo sex scandal. Nice to see there are two standards, one is impossibly high for Islam and the other disgustingly low (and still unable to be met) for organized christianity.[/QUOTE]

As someone (PAD, I think) mentioned earlier, the same thing happened with the KKK. Doesn't mean it was right. The point that was made is that there are undoubted plenty of muslims who knew the people involved and knew what they planned. They all stayed silent. Maybe they did nothing because they feel a stronger connection to a fellow muslim no matter what their profession. Or maybe they refused to act because their religion doesn't truly view these kinds of acts as wrong. Either way they refused to act and they were wrong to do so. Bringing up the fact (which I have not denied) that christians have been guilty of the same things doesn't actually have any effect on this. Pointing out one group's flaws in an attempt to justify another's is juvenile.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']Get this: Faux News says that the bombings "work to our advantage" --

Fox News' Brian Kilmeade: London terror attack near G8 summit "works to ... Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together"

The following exchange between Fox News host Brian Kilmeade and Fox News business contributor and substitute host Stuart Varney occurred during breaking news coverage of the attacks on London subways and buses on the July 7 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

KILMEADE: And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right at the point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warming off the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.

KILMEADE: Yeah.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200507070005

How fortunate for us. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, they are right. It does raise paranoia and allows governments to take more control than they should probably have. If I were these guys, I wouldn't want to do anything to excite the conspiracy theorists. Having a group named "The Super Secret Muslims Who Support Al-Quaida, Yeah!" claim responsibility already makes it look pretty fishy.
 
[quote name='coffman']Next week's breaking news:

The terrorists involved in last week's attack in London all came from Iran. Prime Minister Tony Blair, along with his close ally President George Bush, have promised that those terrorists will be brought to justice, no matter how many Iranian civilians die in the impending invasion.[/QUOTE]

I hope.

PAD couldn't be more right. The moderate Islam's silence is the equivalent of approval.
 
[quote name='atreyue']Unfortunately, they are right. It does raise paranoia and allows governments to take more control than they should probably have. If I were these guys, I wouldn't want to do anything to excite the conspiracy theorists. Having a group named "The Super Secret Muslims Who Support Al-Quaida, Yeah!" claim responsibility already makes it look pretty fishy.[/QUOTE]

Although Fox seemed to indicate that issues such as global warming are inherently meaningless, they are right, to some extent. Terrorism needs to be focused on at a national and international level.

Also, someone needs to tell George W. Bush this; it would be best to be the leaders of other first world nations, since voters, scientific research, and other knowledgable people don't seem to have much luck convincing Bush to go after terrorists.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Although Fox seemed to indicate that issues such as global warming are inherently meaningless, they are right, to some extent. Terrorism needs to be focused on at a national and international level.

Also, someone needs to tell George W. Bush this; it would be best to be the leaders of other first world nations, since voters, scientific research, and other knowledgable people don't seem to have much luck convincing Bush to go after terrorists.[/QUOTE]

So what does that make the liberals that want to close Club Gitmo or give these de facto POW's civillian trials instead of indefinite captivity? Stupid? Clueless? Insane? You know these same people who think torture is playing loud music, turning up the air conditioning high and making someone sleep on a cement floor during questioning? If you think Bush isn't going after terrorists just what do you call the people that want to free the ones we have captured?
 
Here's an interesting analysis from DU of the bombings:

I woke up to the news of the London tragedy this morning, and am utterly shocked. So I really have not had any time to research this, and have been reading LBN and GD for news on it. So please forgive me if I have the odd fact or two wrong for now, and have to shoot straight from the top of my head.

First, I need to say one thing and get it off my chest: Please stop the panicky "end of the world-the stock market is doomed-martial law is coming-OMG OMG OMG-we can never take public transportation again" posts. This is just the type of mentality that shrub and the rest of the neo-cons prey on. We can set an example by showing cooler heads, something which is obviously lacking in the Federal Government.

Now on to my take of today’s events:

We will find these people and bring them to justice, what ever it takes"

"I think about Iraq every day. EVERY SINGLE DAY. And I'm going to KEEP thinking about Iraq."---the lying chimp

The attack in London, tragic as it is, is a direct result of Bush and Blair losing interest in pursuing al-Qaeda. They followed their own agenda when they went to Iraq, knowing full well that there was no connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq.

Bush and Blair both lost interest in Afghanistan, where the Taliban is now in resurgence. Both failed to take any action whatsoever against Saudi Arabia or Egypt which is where the 9/11 hijackers came from. They both forged an alliance with Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden is apparently being hid, and orchestrating present terrorist attacks.

Had we stayed in Afghanistan, spent the billions necessary to rebuild that war torn nation, and aggressively pursued Bin Laden and crew, much of what is a real terrorist threat could have been nipped in the bud.

Since 9-11, we have constantly been barraged, day in and day out, with nonstop mentions of "terrorism" and "terrorists" and "alert levels". Shrubs entire 2004 campaign was run as he stood on the backs of thousands of dead men, women, and children caused by his incompetent bungling, while he smugly lied to the world about how we are all safer today. How many freedoms have been given up in the name of fighting terrorism? How many hundreds of billions of dollars given to sleazy war profiteers like Halliburton? How many thousands of human lives lost as a result?

Believe me, I could go on for pages just about this, however, it would serve no real purpose but to tell everyone here what you already know. The point I am getting at, is that this administration appointed themselves as the worlds police force, and used that as their excuse to rob the treasury blind, and cause an illegal war in a different unrelated country to fulfill their own agenda of controlling OPEC.

They got what they asked for, handed to them on a silver platter by the conservative majority in the Senate and House, and by a handful of weak kneed Democrats that went along with them. Guess what. Today’s events prove beyond a shadow of doubt that this administration consists of complete and utter failures. It's what we do with that knowledge that will be the important thing.

I confess that in the first couple of days after September 11th, I thought we'd be better off with the tough-talking, senior guys running the government and couldn't quite imagine Al Gore being that tough. My God, how I have beat myself up for that in all the ensuing years that followed.

Anyway, just my two cents...
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']So what does that make the liberals that want to close Club Gitmo or give these de facto POW's civillian trials instead of indefinite captivity? Stupid? Clueless? Insane? You know these same people who think torture is playing loud music, turning up the air conditioning high and making someone sleep on a cement floor during questioning? If you think Bush isn't going after terrorists just what do you call the people that want to free the ones we have captured?[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone is upset about air conditioning. Don't belittle the very real torture that some people have gone through, both at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.

You know what I want? For the people here to be charged with something. If they're convictable terrorists, do something with them. If they aren't, and you have no tangible evidence that they are linked with terrorist organizations, then let them go. It seems that, based on the things you say, you have no doubt in your mind that everyone at either major (albeit 'temporary') institution is guilty of something. Why not get on with charging and convicting them with something? My concern is that we have lots of brown people locked up without any access, without any liberties, and without any charges. Why can't we simply get past that major hurdle, and then we'll talk about terrorism.

Here's the millon-dollar question: Could this terrorist attack have been prevented if Bush (and Blair) were not so preoccupied with Iraq?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't think anyone is upset about air conditioning. Don't belittle the very real torture that some people have gone through, both at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.

You know what I want? For the people here to be charged with something. If they're convictable terrorists, do something with them. If they aren't, and you have no tangible evidence that they are linked with terrorist organizations, then let them go. It seems that, based on the things you say, you have no doubt in your mind that everyone at either major (albeit 'temporary') institution is guilty of something. Why not get on with charging and convicting them with something? My concern is that we have lots of brown people locked up without any access, without any liberties, and without any charges. Why can't we simply get past that major hurdle, and then we'll talk about terrorism.

Here's the millon-dollar question: Could this terrorist attack have been prevented if Bush (and Blair) were not so preoccupied with Iraq?[/QUOTE]

You don't charge POW's or de facto POW's. You hold them for the duration of the conflict, that's what being a POW is. They don't get access to lawyers. If the conflict lasts 20 years they're stuck for 20 years. Go ask John McCain about what it means to be a POW and about torture. He seems to be the only person scabs on this nation like you give any creedence to.

We don't complain about air conditioning? What the hell did Dick Durbin do on the floor of the Senate? Do you pay NO attention? So you know all about "real torture" right? We're using electricity? We're pulling fingernails, amputating fingers, toes, dipping people in plastic shredders? Fraternity worthy hazing pranks of naked pyramids or dog leashing is not torture.

The answer to your million dollar question is no, i t could not have been prevented just beccause of pre-occupation with Iraq and you know it. Just like Bali, Madrid, Kenya, Somolia, the USS Cole, 9/11 and other Al Qaeda attacks weren't stopped.

Of course you want to say yes because your blind political hatred so deludes you to the nature of the terrorist threat. I'd really like to know how many vehement anti-war and hard core pacifistic lefties were killed and maimed today. I'd like to know where their sentiment got them. I'd like to ask them as they sit there in hospital beds across London if they get it yet.

The next time it happens in New York, Washington or another U.S. city I want to see how many thick headed morons finally wake up when their limbs are blown off and left on street corners or subway platforms. I want to see how many treasonous Senators, liberal newspaper writers and liberal message board posters realize they can't reason their way out of this threat. I just wonder how many gallons of blood and thousands more lives need to be eliminated and shattered in the West before they wake up and realize this is a declared war on YOU and not one Islamofascist gives a rats fucking ass what kind of sensitivity you show their faith.

They laugh at you, just like I do, except they want you dead. I want you to wake the fuck up.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']



Of course you want to say yes because your blind political hatred so deludes you to the nature of the terrorist threat. I'd really like to know how many vehement anti-war and hard core pacifistic lefties were killed and maimed today. I'd like to know where their sentiment got them. I'd like to ask them as they sit there in hospital beds across London if they get it yet.

The next time it happens in New York, Washington or another U.S. city I want to see how many thick headed morons finally wake up when their limbs are blown off and left on street corners or subway platforms. I want to see how many treasonous Senators, liberal newspaper writers and liberal message board posters realize they can't reason their way out of this threat. I just wonder how many gallons of blood and thousands more lives need to be eliminated and shattered in the West before they wake up and realize this is a declared war on YOU and not one Islamofascist gives a rats fucking ass what kind of sensitivity you show their faith.

.[/QUOTE]

you are a sick fuck...

hoping for death and destruction just to prove a point.

Beyond your hyperbole you miss the point. Every hardcore pacifist I know believes to his dying day that violence begats violence. They speak out against it all, they don't discriminate because of blind political loyalty or even patriotism.

Where did the pro-war sentiment get people today?

This Rovian/Limbaugh bullcrap you keep spouting didn't "save" anyone. Nor did your hatred of the brown people make a difference.

You know what dipshit? We've already had plenty of blood in the street, death and destruction, lives shattered to make your twisted point. Yet all we do is make more. Try again.
 
meh. Another attack won't change a thing about pacifists or ardent "let's-make-it-a-parking-lot-with-bombing-raids"ists, since our ideologies are built with escape hatches whenever we're challenged.

I'm curious, however, how PAD manages to find fault with the pacifists for these attacks, given the complete and total LACK OF ANY fuckING PACIFISTS AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL OF EITHER BRITISH OR UNITED STATES GOVERNMENTS. Dude, you're giving the people in charge a free ride, but blaming the krishnas or college socialists whose existence matters to fucking nobody?

The corollary to your argument holds: the SUV-driving, yellow ribbon magnet emblazoned (perhaps even a nice fat-ass suburban momma sequin-patterned USA flag vest for good measure) pro-Bush, pro-war mongoloid might wonder, amidst flying limbs (since we're going to use that kind of imagery), "Why do they hate us?" Then they'll think of Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, the Patriot Act, Color colded terror measures, no Osama, an exhausted military in Iraq, no link between Iraq and al Qaeda, no WMD, the Downing Street Memo, advanced military strategy ("stay the course"), and they might think to themselves..."perhaps we should have focused on places other than Iraq; perhaps we shouldn't detain people for no reason; perhaps we shouldn't torture people who are detained for no reason...etc."

Of course, they won't. They'll think, "there wouldn't be any terrorism if it weren't for liberal college Birkenstock-wearing hippies!"

I don't care for hippies either (even if we may agree ideologically), man, but at least I understand how useless they are. Let's look to the leaders against the "war on terror" to understand why our intelligence didn't catch on to this, and why our military hasn't gotten Osama bin Laden (who?) yet.
 
ezb, so I don't have to see that again, can you please remove it or make it a link with a warning?

Though the argument the the majority of muslims silently support terrorists isn't based in fact. For one, if someone says how much they hate blacks you're not gonna report them to the cops, since you don't exactly expect that guy to round one up and start lynching him/her. And anyone who lives in areas with large amounts of muslims know they aren't the terrorist supporters that people make them out to be. I think some people here could benefit from spending a few months around muslims. Though, you can also spend 2 minutes on google and find tons of articles about muslims denouncing practically any pure terrorist attack you can remember (I've posted lists in multiple arguments, and really don't want to do it again considering the people arguing this point have long been known as bigots so it would be pointless).
 
Dude, that is seriously wrong. Even I am bothered by that.

[quote name='E-Z-B']Face it. This is what PAD wants to see:

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Don't edit it. fuck it if you can't take it, since it's fucking reality.

On the other hand, I do recognize and appreciate that you aren't lauding the photo as evidence of another dead "islamofacist."
 
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