My Gamestop Haul today And rude associates

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8ballGuy

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I went to gamestop today looking for some PS1 RPG's. The employees their dident know I knew about the "STASH" that I was shown only about a week ago. in which I picked up Vanguard Bandits and Ogre Battle Limited edition on PS1. SO I come back today and get the other 2 games I was looking for and I knew they had in the drawer. I ask the guy if they had Arc the lad collection(it was the guys first day working as he admitted to me while checking out)he goes into the stash and start reading out the PSone RPG titles which included Vandal hearts, beyond the beyond, Persona 1,2, 2 copys of SUikoden 1, Tales of Destiny, Arc the lad collection, LUNAR silver star story, Brigadine, Legend of mana. Im like wow I just talked to the guy at the other register and he said you guys dident have any Psone games behind the counter.


The new guy is like yea we keep the good ones back here I was just shown it today by another employee. SO then another employee looks PISSED(the one who lied to me about not carrying any PS1 games behind the counter) His face turned reallllly red, when I told the new guy I will go ahead and get Suikoden 1(Im guessing the guy was wanting the game) and vandal hearts. He said awesome(he checked both complete copies to give me the best condition one but to his surprised they were both perfect condition, so he sold me one along with SHin Nocturn LImited edfition.

I left the store and went to the parking lot and Im like go ask the guy who got all mad and lied and see if they got lunar SSSC(told me girlfriend to go ask and see what he said) She went inside and ask if they had Lunar SSSC for PSX, and the guy said nope we dont havent had that game in a long time, My girlfriend then said "But the other guy(we will refer to as the NEW GUY) showed me it" he then said ohh that case was empty(disc was stolen he said). My girlfriend is competive and hates to be lied to, she is like well I will by the empty case then(he hesistated and said I dunno if we can do that) She then said can I see the case, she opened it and BAM their it was disc,case, hardbound manuel in the drawer and big box. He then said ohhh(knew he got caught).


So I came in and stuck it to the guy for lying and said ohhh I will go ahead and get the other copy of suikoden 1 also(the one he wanted, that he got all red faced about). SO I got that game, and then got a 9.99 PSX game and 2 for 10$ DVD movies, which only adds up to 20$, He said your total is 23.99, im like 4$ in tax? he is like yea, so im like here is my discount card(10% discount off of used games and movies), he swiped that and says your new total is 27.89$, he then says thats the total Im like how I only put 20$ worth of items on the counter and the first total without discount was 23.99, why is it 27.89 with discount?. He then said ohhh I guess I added 10% to your total, he then said "it happens, but you will live".

I am stunned at this employee way at customer service. Needless to say the new guy was getting shyted on when we left(other employee said he is putting all of the new guys stuff that was on hopld out on the floor to sell, and the new guy said I was just doing my job" so I felt sorry for the new guy, he helped me out and got burned by the other jackass employee for helping a customer out(I spent over 200$ in weeks their)...

DO any of you have any stories about the STASH(that drawer exist in every GS I went too, but very few will show customers it) where all the rare games are hidden for employees
 
Stash= a Drawer of games kept behind the counter at your local EB or GS that are RARE and only sold to other employees
 
Learn to use paragraphs or some sort of breaks in that giant textual blob - otherwise, only the bravest and most patient of souls will delve into that story.
 
Yeah, back when they wuz all called funcoland i used to try and raid the stash and one guy one day says to me that we aint got no stash so i go outsid and wait til he has to go to the bathroom and the uther guy is like there bye himself and i go in with a disguise on and he openz the drawer and a magic light comes out and it like this huge game storage room let me tel u i was freakin so then we go inside and there like every game every released for the ps1 and they all under 5 bucks but then the other guy comes back and sees us and tells me to leave so i say no, not til you sell me all the really rare games so it gets really nasty and almost turns into a fight or at least he game me a mean look or something and he agrees to sell two of the games my choice so i get duki za dingy (really rare jap game that hardly another knows about) and asteroids. i never go back.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Wow, that was HARD to read, but it sounds like you should report them to the manager or district manager.[/QUOTE]
ohhh yea I did that immediatly, I ask the rude associate for the district number and did it right in front of him :)
 
[quote name='areeve']Yeah, back when they wuz all called funcoland i used to try and raid the stash and one guy one day says to me that we aint got no stash so i go outsid and wait til he has to go to the bathroom and the uther guy is like there bye himself and i go in with a disguise on and he openz the drawer and a magic light comes out and it like this huge game storage room let me tel u i was freakin so then we go inside and there like every game every released for the ps1 and they all under 5 bucks but then the other guy comes back and sees us and tells me to leave so i say no, not til you sell me all the really rare games so it gets really nasty and almost turns into a fight or at least he game me a mean look or something and he agrees to sell two of the games my choice so i get duki za dingy (really rare jap game that hardly another knows about) and asteroids. i never go back.[/QUOTE]

wtf.......
 
Considering that Gamestop's inventory is automatically updated online, wouldn't it be kind of hard for them to hide these games?
 
That's not always true as one of my friends who works at a GS has told me of similar instances. The employees aren't dumb they know how much this stuff sells on ebay for. They just put them aside and wait for special promotional deals or price drops.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Considering that Gamestop's inventory is automatically updated online, wouldn't it be kind of hard for them to hide these games?[/QUOTE]
That's not always true as one of my friends who works at a GS has told me of similar instances. The employees aren't dumb they know how much this stuff sells on ebay for. They just put them aside and wait for special promotional deals or price drops.
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[quote name='RedvsBlue']Considering that Gamestop's inventory is automatically updated online, wouldn't it be kind of hard for them to hide these games?[/QUOTE]

One gamestop by my house that my friend works at are still holding out on me, the site says they have anthology and FF chronocles, and tactic ogre, but refuse to admit their stash, but my friend told me all the psone RPG's they have in the stash including the ones I jsut mentioned and persona 1.
 
This settles it. GS employees are not only unfriendly, but hoarding assholes too. I'm not sure my GS is like this though. They had a mint copy of Suikoden I that they kept in one of the glass cases behind the counter. So its not hidden in a stash or anything, its out in plain sight. But I feel sorry for you guys that have GSs like this.
 
Bastards. Luckily I've found a GameStop or two that isn't staffed by such SOBs. Cuz ya know what, if you wanna buy a game THAT bad from your store, don't be so stupid to have a BACKLOG of games you intend on EVENTUALLY buying. Buy them, Immediately. Since I would be suprised if ALL those games came in THAT day and he intended on buying ALL of those at the end of his shift.

Meh... stash, at most, one day. Buy at end of shift. Done. That's what I've always done any way... it's just crass and BAD karma to keep a hoard behind your counter.
 
Yeah, but they just say they checked and it's not there.

My GS had MvsC for X for 2 weeks. Three times, my hubby and I went in apart from each other, once said it was on the website, other two times not, they looked all three times, nothing.

One night, Friday, I'm in there, last one. The guys are really amped because they're young, it's Friday, 8:55, they've pulled the gate, blah, blah, blah. It's during their buy 2 get 1. I wanted Shin Megami, but it didn't have the CD, so I needed a third. I see this stack on the counter, top one MvsC for X! I say I'll take that. Other guy says, oh, that's MINE. Oh, that's why it's still on the website, say I.

Dude was waiting for payday, I'm sure, because it disappeared off the website by Monday a.m. And they always give this "it takes WEEKS to update the website" story. Funny, how come other stores if I buy something on Saturday it's off Monday? HMMMMMMMM?
 
Your story is complete bullshit. There is no way an employee would charge you more for a game, or add 10% when you show them the discount card. They'd lose their job on the spot. Seriously, how long did it take you to come up with this story? I hope it was a "spur of the moment" kind of deal.

On to the serious things. It is true that most Gamestop employees keep a secret stash, but if you call them out on it they'll usually offer them up. I never put anything on hold so as to not give anyone else a chance to pick up on an item I want. Occassionally, I'll put games out that have been sitting in our drawer for more than a few weeks. Most of the time, it's stupid items like Wild Arms, some unknown anime dvds, or recently released used games. It might not be "right" thing to do, but the employees will take every perk they can get.
 
I remember i got to see the "STASH" drawer one time at my gamestop a whie ago (like 2 or 3 years). I wanted chrono trigger and they had it in the drawer but when i ased to buy it the guy kept telling me that the game wasn't working and he wasn't allowed to sell it to me. I was like, ill buy it broken i dont care, but the guy wouldn't sell it. The next day i went back and it was gone.
 
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ohh looks like we have a GS employee here, Pleas do not say what or what he did not do, you were not their, and The proper people where notified, and I even letting the new guy get some revenge
 
[quote name='tcrash247']This settles it. GS employees are not only unfriendly, but hoarding assholes too. I'm not sure my GS is like this though. They had a mint copy of Suikoden I that they kept in one of the glass cases behind the counter. So its not hidden in a stash or anything, its out in plain sight. But I feel sorry for you guys that have GSs like this.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for being generalizing ass. Yes, we may hold stuff for ourselves, and it's our within our privileges to do so. I think it's one thing that we deserve to do for putting up with people like you.

We are gamers also.
 
[quote name='8ballGuy']I went to gamestop today looking for some PS1 RPG's. The employees their dident know I knew about the "STASH" that I was shown only about a week ago. in which I picked up Vanguard Bandits and Ogre Battle Limited edition on PS1. SO I come back today and get the other 2 games I was looking for and I knew they had in the drawer. I ask the guy if they had Arc the lad collection(it was the guys first day working as he admitted to me while checking out)he goes into the stash and start reading out the PSone RPG titles which included Vandal hearts, beyond the beyond, Persona 1,2, 2 copys of SUikoden 1, Tales of Destiny, Arc the lad collection, LUNAR silver star story, Brigadine, Legend of mana. Im like wow I just talked to the guy at the other register and he said you guys dident have any Psone games behind the counter.


The new guy is like yea we keep the good ones back here I was just shown it today by another employee. SO then another employee looks PISSED(the one who lied to me about not carrying any PS1 games behind the counter) His face turned reallllly red, when I told the new guy I will go ahead and get Suikoden 1(Im guessing the guy was wanting the game) and vandal hearts. He said awesome(he checked both complete copies to give me the best condition one but to his surprised they were both perfect condition, so he sold me one along with SHin Nocturn LImited edfition.

I left the store and went to the parking lot and Im like go ask the guy who got all mad and lied and see if they got lunar SSSC(told me girlfriend to go ask and see what he said) She went inside and ask if they had Lunar SSSC for PSX, and the guy said nope we dont havent had that game in a long time, My girlfriend then said "But the other guy(we will refer to as the NEW GUY) showed me it" he then said ohh that case was empty(disc was stolen he said). My girlfriend is competive and hates to be lied to, she is like well I will by the empty case then(he hesistated and said I dunno if we can do that) She then said can I see the case, she opened it and BAM their it was disc,case, hardbound manuel in the drawer and big box. He then said ohhh(knew he got caught).


So I came in and stuck it to the guy for lying and said ohhh I will go ahead and get the other copy of suikoden 1 also(the one he wanted, that he got all red faced about). SO I got that game, and then got a 9.99 PSX game and 2 for 10$ DVD movies, which only adds up to 20$, He said your total is 23.99, im like 4$ in tax? he is like yea, so im like here is my discount card(10% discount off of used games and movies), he swiped that and says your new total is 27.89$, he then says thats the total Im like how I only put 20$ worth of items on the counter and the first total without discount was 23.99, why is it 27.89 with discount?. He then said ohhh I guess I added 10% to your total, he then said "it happens, but you will live".

I am stunned at this employee way at customer service. Needless to say the new guy was getting shyted on when we left(other employee said he is putting all of the new guys stuff that was on hopld out on the floor to sell, and the new guy said I was just doing my job" so I felt sorry for the new guy, he helped me out and got burned by the other jackass employee for helping a customer out(I spent over 200$ in weeks their)...

DO any of you have any stories about the STASH(that drawer exist in every GS I went too, but very few will show customers it) where all the rare games are hidden for employees[/QUOTE]

We don't have a stash at EB but I have kind of an opposite story. I found a copy of Suikoden 1 and a preplayed copy of Untold Legends (not rare but it was right after the PSP came out) while I was fixing the shelves (I hadn't worked for about a week so I tend to check out the selection that came in while I was gone). Since I was on the clock, I put the games aside so I can buy them before I leave. Later on, a customer comes on and asks if we have a copy of Suikoden 1; I tell the customer no since I was holding the copy for myself to be bought later that same day. My manager chimes in and tells the customer that we do have a copy, takes the game out of the shelf we use for holds, and sells it to the customer. I was like WTF? I got in trouble because he said that I shouldn't use my employee privilages that way which is not fair because if any other customer had requested that to be held, he would have held the game for them regardless of who came in and asked.

I wanna work at GS so I can access a special stash :whistle2:(
 
[quote name='8ballGuy']^
ohh looks like we have a GS employee here, Pleas do not say what or what he did not do, you were not their, and The proper people where notified, and I even letting the new guy get some revenge[/QUOTE]

Your story is pretty unbelievable. Let's see a receipt scan.
 
[quote name='Rig']Your story is pretty unbelievable. Let's see a receipt scan.[/QUOTE]

ohh yea I hear ya this guy was unbelievable, I dont have a scanner but I got a digital scan, and he TRIED to charge me that but I know how to add :)
 
[quote name='onikage']Thanks for the link. :cool:[/QUOTE]


Anytime...please remember it for when you get a GOOD employee, as there are many guys who would go out of your way to help and not to stash stuff.

I have been known to stash stuff at my store, but if someone asks I don't have a problem selling it. And in my district it's a punishable offense for holding things for more than 2 days.
 
[quote name='Kuros']I think it's one thing that we deserve to do for putting up with people like you.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I know standing around working at a video game store all day is really rough work. Don't bother telling me "you have no idea," because I do.

Holding a game you actually for yourself is one thing, employees just hoarding shit to sell on ebay and lying to customers about having it deserve to be hit by a car.
 
(gs workers) arent suppose to buy something just to sell on ebay. when I buy stuff like rare games and such I buy them to play then. People are their looking at the same stuff when someone trades it in. So if someone askes me they wanna buy the game I will say ok. If no one askes me buy the end of the night I will buy it for myself and no one else.

but yea not everyone is as nice as me.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Yeah, I know standing around working at a video game store all day is really rough work. Don't bother telling me "you have no idea," because I do.

Holding a game you actually for yourself is one thing, employees just hoarding shit to sell on ebay and lying to customers about having it deserve to be hit by a car.[/QUOTE]

Yes, because all I do is stand around all day. :roll:

Despite what you think, I do go out of my way to help customers, I do keep busy and I do a damn good job of it. I admit, it's not the most labor intensive job, but to say that I stand around and do nothing all day is a fallacy.

As for holding stuff, do you really think we could make money hoarding shit to sell on ebay? Example: If I were to try to hoard Suikoden 2 to put up on Ebay, it would be pointless, seeing how GS sells Suikoden 2 for $60

I only hold stuff for myself if I want it, and I have the privledge to do so. I take full advantage of it. If I plan to buy it within the next couple days and a customer asks for it, I'm allowed to say it's on hold. I'm a customer also.

Oh, by the way, at my store, we will hold a game for customers also. 24-48 hour time period usually, except employees of course, we can hold games for longer, which the manager will remove if they are stuck in the hold bin for a long time.
 
but when you do get the "stash" you hit jackpot. I got mint suikoden 1 and thousand arms this way. The online site show this one store with either unbelieveable stash or some error. The store has suikoden 2, persona 2, ogre battle, and just about every single atlus rpg ever made. Of couse I try calling the store and they said they don't have it and there is nothing when i visit the store.
 
[quote name='62t']but when you do get the "stash" you hit jackpot. I got mint suikoden 1 and thousand arms this way. The online site show this one store with either unbelieveable stash or some error. The store has suikoden 2, persona 2, ogre battle, and just about every single atlus rpg ever made. Of couse I try calling the store and they said they don't have it and there is nothing when i visit the store.[/QUOTE]

Well, it is wrong to stash for the sake of stashing. There are stores that have done that, and it is wrong. But for the average employee, he intends to buy the game in the near future, and he's allowed to stash it so he can buy it.
 
I do agree with Kuros on some point. I mean GS sells Suikoden 1 for $30, which is about what you would get on ebay.
 
[quote name='Kuros']Yes, because all I do is stand around all day. :roll:

Despite what you think, I do go out of my way to help customers, I do keep busy and I do a damn good job of it. I admit, it's not the most labor intensive job, but to say that I stand around and do nothing all day is a fallacy.

As for holding stuff, do you really think we could make money hoarding shit to sell on ebay? Example: If I were to try to hoard Suikoden 2 to put up on Ebay, it would be pointless, seeing how GS sells Suikoden 2 for $60

I only hold stuff for myself if I want it, and I have the privledge to do so. I take full advantage of it. If I plan to buy it within the next couple days and a customer asks for it, I'm allowed to say it's on hold. I'm a customer also.

Oh, by the way, at my store, we will hold a game for customers also. 24-48 hour time period usually, except employees of course, we can hold games for longer, which the manager will remove if they are stuck in the hold bin for a long time.[/QUOTE]

Just because you don't hoarde games doesn't mean others don't. I personally called a Gamestop on their "hold drawer" and told them I wanted the Suikoden II that they had stashed back. The guy says "Oh, that was put away by XYZ employee. It's been in there for a month so I guess I can give it to you." The guy also had IQ stashed in there as well...

This was after I had just come from the GS down the street where the employee gladly showed me Lunar II complete with all the pieces, etc; Einhander, Arc The Lad, and some other games in the hold drawer and bragged about how he'd set them aside when they first came in.

But what really, REALLY makes me angry is when GS employees LIE to you and say there's no hold drawer. And when they LIE to you and tell you the GS site is only updated "every couple of weeks". I called the last guy on it when he gave me this lie - I said "Come on, I know you tell the customers that because you don't want to be bothered, but we both know the system updates every couple of days at most." He had no answer for me.

And like the intelligent CAG who wrote before - I have also tested this theory after buying rare games at GS and it ALWAYS disappears within 1 day.

For the few Gamestop employees out there who are honest, just accept it - there are a LOT of GS employees out there hoarding all the good games and lying to customers about it. Don't live in denial. I'm sorry they are giving you a bad name but in my experience the percentage who are taking advantage is higher than the percentage who...gasp!...make the customer the priority at the store.

If you're going to snag all the good games for yourself because you work there - I don't like it, but like others have said...buy it! Don't hide it.
 
[quote name='Kuros']I admit, it's not the most labor intensive job, but to say that I stand around and do nothing all day is a fallacy. [/QUOTE]

And what fallacy would that be? If you'd put a dictionary beside the game rarity list, you'd see that "fallacy" != "falsehood."

As for the rest of this, silly me, I thought a store existed to serve the customers in the surrounding area. This model with your "privileges", correcting the spelling, is akin to a used car store where the employees hoard everything that's not a station wagon.

Look, you're not a customer. You *may* be a customer that "happens to be a game store employee", but appealing to this customer status to justify your actions is ridiculous. I'm a customer. I don't have people lining up at my door with copies of Valkyrie Profile. I don't have access to your little drawer there.

In fact, you won't tell me the games exist, which no other customer does. Right? If I ask Ted the game shopper if he sees a copy of Shinobi for PS2, he'll look over on the shelf and be like, yeah, it's right there. If I ask Ted the game employee if he knows of any copy, he's all, "NO! NO! We don't have one we haven't had one since the winter of '03 it was a bad winter and my grandmother's dying. Look, a badger!"

Being a store employee and a gamer are separate functions and should stay that way. No one wants a gynecologist who "happens to be a guy with needs", right? And if these are your "privileges", fine. Post them publicly. Put restrictions on them. Don't use information you'd only have as an employee to benefit you as a customer. It's the same reasoning behind restraining insider trading (though your "customer service" would be more profitable if used there). I think a reasonable policy for these "perks", if they must exist, is that used games are up for the staff after seven days in stock. You want it before that? Fine, "gamer", do what the rest of us do and wait for a store that you don't work at to get a copy, haul your ass over there, and buy.

Until then I suggest that CAGs neglect all stores that confuse a business with a front for elitist hobbyists and restrict their selling of rare games either to Ebay or to CAG forums. Gamestop is still more than welcome to fill their drawer with my copies of Super Trucks Racing 2. This may prompt an argument that he hoards because he has to "put up with customers like me." I can't imagine there would be many customers left in his store by the time he's done shopping, er, working. But more to the point, that actually *is* a fallacy. Which brings us full circle, and circles are fun. Unlike Super Trucks Racing 2, or shopping at Gamestop.
 
[quote name='8ballGuy']^
ohh looks like we have a GS employee here, Pleas do not say what or what he did not do, you were not their, and The proper people where notified, and I even letting the new guy get some revenge[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, I appreciate your story, but I have to comment on something because it's happened more than once in separate posts.

There: T - H - E - R - E

There is no "I" in there unless you are talking about the possessive form of they. Sorry for the grammar lesson, but I could remain quiet no longer.
 
Thanks for reminding me about the "secret stash" at Gamestop. That's how I got Super Mario RPG and Earthbound back in the day.
 
[quote name='diaeresis']And what fallacy would that be? If you'd put a dictionary beside the game rarity list, you'd see that "fallacy" != "falsehood."

As for the rest of this, silly me, I thought a store existed to serve the customers in the surrounding area. This model with your "privileges", correcting the spelling, is akin to a used car store where the employees hoard everything that's not a station wagon.

Look, you're not a customer. You *may* be a customer that "happens to be a game store employee", but appealing to this customer status to justify your actions is ridiculous. I'm a customer. I don't have people lining up at my door with copies of Valkyrie Profile. I don't have access to your little drawer there.

In fact, you won't tell me the games exist, which no other customer does. Right? If I ask Ted the game shopper if he sees a copy of Shinobi for PS2, he'll look over on the shelf and be like, yeah, it's right there. If I ask Ted the game employee if he knows of any copy, he's all, "NO! NO! We don't have one we haven't had one since the winter of '03 it was a bad winter and my grandmother's dying. Look, a badger!"

Being a store employee and a gamer are separate functions and should stay that way. No one wants a gynecologist who "happens to be a guy with needs", right? And if these are your "privileges", fine. Post them publicly. Put restrictions on them. Don't use information you'd only have as an employee to benefit you as a customer. It's the same reasoning behind restraining insider trading (though your "customer service" would be more profitable if used there). I think a reasonable policy for these "perks", if they must exist, is that used games are up for the staff after seven days in stock. You want it before that? Fine, "gamer", do what the rest of us do and wait for a store that you don't work at to get a copy, haul your ass over there, and buy.

Until then I suggest that CAGs neglect all stores that confuse a business with a front for elitist hobbyists and restrict their selling of rare games either to Ebay or to CAG forums. Gamestop is still more than welcome to fill their drawer with my copies of Super Trucks Racing 2. This may prompt an argument that he hoards because he has to "put up with customers like me." I can't imagine there would be many customers left in his store by the time he's done shopping, er, working. But more to the point, that actually *is* a fallacy. Which brings us full circle, and circles are fun. Unlike Super Trucks Racing 2, or shopping at Gamestop.[/QUOTE]

Then again, they could always argue that the perks are to make up for a low paying crappy ass job where the company treats them like shit, lol. Supposedly it's worst to be a GS employee than an EB employee or so I've heard.
 
1.
fal·la·cy Audio pronunciation of "fallacy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fl-s)
n. pl. fal·la·cies

1. A false notion.
2. A statement or an argument based on a false or invalid inference.
3. Incorrectness of reasoning or belief; erroneousness.
4. The quality of being deceptive.

I believe I was correct in using the term in that it is a false notion to state that all game store employees do is stand around all day.

2. Oh shit it's late at night I'm tired and I forgot how to spell privilege. Shoot me for making such a earth shattering mistake.

3.
Look, you're not a customer. You *may* be a customer that "happens to be a game store employee", but appealing to this customer status to justify your actions is ridiculous.
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You can deny all you like, but when I buy stuff from the store, I am a customer. Customers can put stuff on hold for themselves for a set period of time and so can I. The only difference is that I have a longer duration of how long I can hold items for myself.

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In fact, you won't tell me the games exist, which no other customer does. Right? If I ask Ted the game shopper if he sees a copy of Shinobi for PS2, he'll look over on the shelf and be like, yeah, it's right there. If I ask Ted the game employee if he knows of any copy, he's all, "NO! NO! We don't have one we haven't had one since the winter of '03 it was a bad winter and my grandmother's dying. Look, a badger!"
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That's why when something gets put on hold, we set it out of the way, so we know someone is going to come and pick it up. If the person doesn't come, it goes back out on to the floor. But if you are trying to say that I purposefully hide games from customers to keep them for myself, that's a flat out lie. Others may do it, but I don't.

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Being a store employee and a gamer are separate functions and should stay that way. No one wants a gynecologist who "happens to be a guy with needs", right? And if these are your "privileges", fine. Post them publicly. Put restrictions on them. Don't use information you'd only have as an employee to benefit you as a customer. It's the same reasoning behind restraining insider trading (though your "customer service" would be more profitable if used there). I think a reasonable policy for these "perks", if they must exist, is that used games are up for the staff after seven days in stock. You want it before that? Fine, "gamer", do what the rest of us do and wait for a store that you don't work at to get a copy, haul your ass over there, and buy.
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Why can't I be an employee and be a gamer? It sure helps with my job. I like being able to tell what a game is like to a person instead of "Duh, I don't know!" Sure helps make a sale. As for the gynecologist crack, that is a way different situation with more serious consenquences than fucking holding a game for myself when it comes in because I've been wanting to play it for months. It's a totally out of line example. The same goes with insider trading, which is actually illegal, unlike holding a game for myself to purchase, BECAUSE I'M A CUSTOMER. "(though your "customer service" would be more profitable if used there)" This was an unneeded personal attack, you know nothing about how I work. As for the last part about the 7 days bit, like I said before, I get off of work, I'm no longer a employee, I'm a customer, so I can hold the item for myself and buy it then, just like any other customer can hold a game and buy it when they can get in.

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Until then I suggest that CAGs neglect all stores that confuse a business with a front for elitist hobbyists and restrict their selling of rare games either to Ebay or to CAG forums. Gamestop is still more than welcome to fill their drawer with my copies of Super Trucks Racing 2. This may prompt an argument that he hoards because he has to "put up with customers like me." I can't imagine there would be many customers left in his store by the time he's done shopping, er, working. But more to the point, that actually *is* a fallacy. Which brings us full circle, and circles are fun. Unlike Super Trucks Racing 2, or shopping at Gamestop.
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Oh yes, I'm now an "elitist hobbyist" because I love to play video games. I play games for fun, collect them for fun and enjoy them. They have been a part of my life for 17 years now so it's natural to want to buy a game I've been looking for. Also, what would be the point for buying games and reselling them on Ebay or CAG? I said before, rare games demand high prices and GS knows about that, so prices on such games as Suikoden 2, MvC2 (xbox) and Mario Party 3 are high as it is. It would be a waste of time to try to resell those games. Another thing, many managers don't even want to put said rare games on the floor, since GS has the policy of putting N64 and PS1 games live now. Those games get stolen easily, all the person needs is a busy crowd and bam, games are gone. No point in putting a $60 game on the floor to be stolen.

As for "putting up with customers like you" I'll still give you the service that I give every customer until you don't deserve it. I get a lot of repeat customers and I treat them with respect, that's one of the reasons why even though I work at the smallest store in our district, we rank in the top 3 nearly every week. Damn good for having less than 1/2 the space to work with than other GS stores.

Oh, and good luck trying to trade in more than 1 copy of Super Trucks Racing 2, we won't let you.
 
[quote name='Kuros']You can deny all you like, but when I buy stuff from the store, I am a customer. Customers can put stuff on hold for themselves for a set period of time and so can I. The only difference is that I have a longer duration of how long I can hold items for myself.[/QUOTE]

OMG! What kind of BS is that?! You're a customer and employee at the same time? :roll: How is that even fair? :evil:

[quote name='Kuros']Oh, and good luck trying to trade in more than 1 copy of Super Trucks Racing 2, we won't let you.[/QUOTE]

I'd love to see something like this go down at my GS. I'll just have the person give it to me and I'll trade it in ......FOR THEM! What?! You're not gonna let me do that?! :wave:
 
[quote name='TXboxGuY']OMG! What kind of BS is that?! You're a customer and employee at the same time? :roll: How is that even fair? :evil:[/QUOTE]

Didn't I say that already?
 
[quote name='vietgurl']We don't have a stash at EB but I have kind of an opposite story. I found a copy of Suikoden 1 and a preplayed copy of Untold Legends (not rare but it was right after the PSP came out) while I was fixing the shelves (I hadn't worked for about a week so I tend to check out the selection that came in while I was gone). Since I was on the clock, I put the games aside so I can buy them before I leave. Later on, a customer comes on and asks if we have a copy of Suikoden 1; I tell the customer no since I was holding the copy for myself to be bought later that same day. My manager chimes in and tells the customer that we do have a copy, takes the game out of the shelf we use for holds, and sells it to the customer. I was like WTF? I got in trouble because he said that I shouldn't use my employee privilages that way which is not fair because if any other customer had requested that to be held, he would have held the game for them regardless of who came in and asked.

I wanna work at GS so I can access a special stash :whistle2:([/QUOTE]

I want to work at EB so I can lie to customers!

Your manager did the right thing.

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[quote name='vietgurl']Then again, they could always argue that the perks are to make up for a low paying crappy ass job where the company treats them like shit, lol. Supposedly it's worst to be a GS employee than an EB employee or so I've heard.[/QUOTE]

Why don't you just quit if your job is low paying and crappy? I make over $9/hr where I work, and I had no experience when I was hired and only a high school diploma.

Good jobs are out there, you just need to look.
 
[quote name='diaeresis']And what fallacy would that be? If you'd put a dictionary beside the game rarity list, you'd see that "fallacy" != "falsehood."

As for the rest of this, silly me, I thought a store existed to serve the customers in the surrounding area. This model with your "privileges", correcting the spelling, is akin to a used car store where the employees hoard everything that's not a station wagon.

Look, you're not a customer. You *may* be a customer that "happens to be a game store employee", but appealing to this customer status to justify your actions is ridiculous. I'm a customer. I don't have people lining up at my door with copies of Valkyrie Profile. I don't have access to your little drawer there.

In fact, you won't tell me the games exist, which no other customer does. Right? If I ask Ted the game shopper if he sees a copy of Shinobi for PS2, he'll look over on the shelf and be like, yeah, it's right there. If I ask Ted the game employee if he knows of any copy, he's all, "NO! NO! We don't have one we haven't had one since the winter of '03 it was a bad winter and my grandmother's dying. Look, a badger!"

Being a store employee and a gamer are separate functions and should stay that way. No one wants a gynecologist who "happens to be a guy with needs", right? And if these are your "privileges", fine. Post them publicly. Put restrictions on them. Don't use information you'd only have as an employee to benefit you as a customer. It's the same reasoning behind restraining insider trading (though your "customer service" would be more profitable if used there). I think a reasonable policy for these "perks", if they must exist, is that used games are up for the staff after seven days in stock. You want it before that? Fine, "gamer", do what the rest of us do and wait for a store that you don't work at to get a copy, haul your ass over there, and buy.

Until then I suggest that CAGs neglect all stores that confuse a business with a front for elitist hobbyists and restrict their selling of rare games either to Ebay or to CAG forums. Gamestop is still more than welcome to fill their drawer with my copies of Super Trucks Racing 2. This may prompt an argument that he hoards because he has to "put up with customers like me." I can't imagine there would be many customers left in his store by the time he's done shopping, er, working. But more to the point, that actually *is* a fallacy. Which brings us full circle, and circles are fun. Unlike Super Trucks Racing 2, or shopping at Gamestop.[/QUOTE]

I agree with what was said here.

I must say that the logic and arguments are all good and valid.
 
Oh boy. Web dictionaries! Okay, I'll make you a deal; that's a "fallacy" if your used game section is a "placebo", and anyone who ever spoke English meaningfully can just go a-rolling in their grave.

You can deny all you like, but when I buy stuff from the store, I am a customer.
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I don't recall arguing that when you buy stuff from a store, you're not a customer. Read what I said. This will be such a common theme in this reply that I'll abbreviate it to RWIS. That stands for "Read what I said", if you didn't catch it. After all, it is late. Or, "latté," in your case.

The only difference is that I have a longer duration of how long I can hold items for myself.
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I didn't know that, but you're only digging yourself into a hole. The differences I listed between you and other customers are obvious, inarguable, and ... gleefully unaddressed. RWIS.

That's why when something gets put on hold, we set it out of the way, so we know someone is going to come and pick it up. If the person doesn't come, it goes back out on to the floor. But if you are trying to say that I purposefully hide games from customers to keep them for myself, that's a flat out lie. Others may do it, but I don't.
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This has nothing to do with what I said. RWIS. This "others may do it, but I don't" theme runs throughout your posts, too, which is all the more reason this "perk" needs to be announced, regulated, and enforced.

Why can't I be an employee and be a gamer? It sure helps with my job. I like being able to tell what a game is like to a person instead of "Duh, I don't know!"
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Holy equivocation. I was not saying you, as a person, could not be both a gamer and work at a game store, any more than I would argue that a man with a sex drive couldn't be a gynecologist in my later analogy.

As for the gynecologist crack, that is a way different situation with more serious consenquences than ing holding a game for myself when it comes in because I've been wanting to play it for months. It's a totally out of line example.
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Yep. It's an analogy. An analogy by definition has a point where it's not analogous. That's what keeps it from being an "example", but distinctions appear lost on you. Maybe it'll be better in the morning. btw, I'm on the East Coast. How late is it for you again?

The same goes with insider trading, which is actually illegal,
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I'll let it slide because you can't yet follow analogies. You'll be accountable after this post. Yes, it's illegal. It's also largely done in New York, and you're not in New York. It's also done by guys who tend to be involved in the stock market, and that begins with an "s", and not retail assistants, which begins with an "r". None of those were why I brought it up. Here's the question: exactly what is it that makes it unethical enough to be illegal? Hint: it's not the amount of money involved. Once you get to that principle, apply it here, and watch what happens.

As for the last part about the 7 days bit, like I said before, I get off of work, I'm no longer a employee, I'm a customer, so I can hold the item for myself and buy it then, just like any other customer can hold a game and buy it when they can get in.
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1. You're only in the store because you're working there as an employee, but I sufficiently dealt with this in the first post. I've seen people pull ignoratio elenchi before, but not in direct response to the rebuttal. Maybe you need to write in the morning.

2. And even this example goes to pot when you consider employees who hold the game for themselves as soon as it comes in (when they're working as an employee), for later when they buy it as a CUSTOMER, which is now in all caps, apparently. It's this ambigous switching of hats that's the problem.

Oh yes, I'm now an "elitist hobbyist" because I love to play video games.
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While we're on fallacy education, you seem to love the strawman, you love him all night long. RWIS. I never mentioned you *playing* the games, heh, so how I could've argued this is beyond me.

The rest is blatant fluff, so I guess I'll see you in the morning.
 
Truth be told this is a much more common thing than one would think. EB,GS,TRU,BB,Walmart.. You name them, they do it. You just need to be informed and educated as to how to deal with them and don't back down. In my case I made many contacts within both EB and GS and when I go in I have no problems finding games and if I run into the "new guy" I politely ask them to call the manager and then get what I need. I have only run into one cirumstance where someone went over the line, and that was in an EB when an employee paid .50 cents for not one but 2 Intelligent Cubes for the PSone (both mint and complete). They were going to give him .25 cents a pop in credit and the employee in front of me gave .50. The reality ws when i came back that afternoon and spoke with the Manager and he looked up the game they gave 15.00 in credit at the time and NOT .25 cents. A quick check of the video system showed the employee making the transaction with the customer as well. He was dealt with and still works there but no longer deals with customers in that fashion. Griping and getting upset won't change anything. They will justify it, people will come down on it. The argument as far as perks is a joke. If you want real perks get a better job (unless yer in high school an the such, cause I know hw hard it was to get a decent perked job back then). I went thru a few jobs myself before I got to the Police Dept. and some of them sucked butt, but I never lied or stashed to make gains and then justify it by saying I can do it cause I deal with people like them.. Thats a cop out and in truth is a bit sad. You're a clerk, you get paid to serve in the end. If they ask, help them and give it up. if you dont like than find other work.
 
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