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I got to UM and they say they don't "support" Xbox Live or PS on the internet, but I think its a bunch of crap. I fail the MTU test every time I try, I'm guessing cuz their connection is set too low or something. Anyone know how to get XBOX live working on campus? I'm at UMiami if that helps, or does anyone know how to boost or raise the MTU of somewhere your on so XBOX live will work?
 
I'd try to make nice with a "techy" at school and have him see if there is any way one could modify the Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) which I would guess has something to do with their network monitoring on campus, that doesn't let you connect.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I've heard some say that using a router solved the problem and got the 360 to work in their dorms.[/quote]

I'd try that idea :applause:
 
I haven't gotten my 360 hooked up yet, but i know my college has a bandwidth limit every week. Looks like the 3 month gold thing was only good for one for me, plus im getting 1600 free ms points but that won't matter till i move out.
 
99% chance that installing a router will count as a violation of your access policy which could get you blocked from the campus network (resulting in a MAJOR pain in the ass)... Your best bet is to plead with IT (most of the guys running it are fellow students), or just sack it up until you move off campus.
 
Who the fuck is going to check your room for a router? But make sure to mess with your router and keep it as low key as possible.

By any chance would a switch fix the MTU?
 
You could possibly try to change the MAC address on your Xbox 360 to match the MAC address of your PC, but if the issue is because of MTU, I'm not sure it would do much. On a side note, which might be helpful to others, what I do to get a wireless router to work in my dorm room is first I "register" my Xbox 360 console on the network (they have an online form for this). Then, since the network gives dorm rooms static IP addresses (from what I've noticed, whenever I check my PC IP address in my dorm, it is the same), I copy down the IP address of my PC and the DNS servers, gateway, etc. Then, I go into my router settings and give it the MAC address of my Xbox 360, and assign it the static IP of my PC's IP address and enter in all the DNS, etc, that I recorded earlier. After all that, once I restart my PC, the setup is usually good to go.
 
Honestly, your best bet is to simply talk to the IT guy. If he can't help you then attempt other methods, but don't get your hopes up.
 
this is becoming what many universitys are doing. My old university started it last year and I was able to get around it for a little while. First try using a router. That might work depending on what type of network software they use. If they use the cisco software which you must install when you first connect to the network then you probably won't be able to use a router at all. If that doesn't work then try using a network switch, switchs manage the information going to and coming from a source, still if software has to be installed on a pc for the internet to even work you will probably be up the creek. The last possible solution i know of is using your laptop/desktop as a bridge, I have friends who have done this before, but it will cut your speed down signifacantly. Look at moving off campus later, thats what I did since campus internet usually sucks anyway and there network plows for gaming.

Don't waste your time talking to IT, they will just state whatever there policy is. Not being able to game on campus connection is becoming a standard for many campuses now.
 
[quote name='CYRiX']Who the fuck is going to check your room for a router? [/QUOTE]

The same guy who comes around to check and make sure you don't have any alcohol in your room.
 
[quote name='ighosty']this is becoming what many universitys are doing. My old university started it last year and I was able to get around it for a little while. First try using a router. That might work depending on what type of network software they use. If they use the cisco software which you must install when you first connect to the network then you probably won't be able to use a router at all. If that doesn't work then try using a network switch, switchs manage the information going to and coming from a source, still if software has to be installed on a pc for the internet to even work you will probably be up the creek. The last possible solution i know of is using your laptop/desktop as a bridge, I have friends who have done this before, but it will cut your speed down signifacantly. Look at moving off campus later, thats what I did since campus internet usually sucks anyway and there network plows for gaming.

Don't waste your time talking to IT, they will just state whatever there policy is. Not being able to game on campus connection is becoming a standard for many campuses now.[/QUOTE]
Clean Access Agent is easy. Install a second NAT into your Windows computer and use ICS to turn your computer into a router. It would be even better with a Linux/SmoothWall box, since you wouldn't have to bother with Norton updates.

This might be packet shaping, which means you're probably screwed for online play. I'm sure there's some way to get it online for say, Market Place or XBLA verification, but nothing that would be fast enough for online gaming.

Keep in mind that no matter what you do, the system admin will likely know. It's all a matter of what he or she is willing to let you get away with.
 
I ended up using a router and that worked fine but sometimes you have to register the IP first (that is if your college network requires that when you first try to log in with your pc) so I just manually change the IP on my computer to the IP of whatever you want connected (seemed to only have to do this with the old xbox, 360 worked fine i think) and then just run the internet and log in as if a new user on the college network
 
[quote name='greatscot']The same guy who comes around to check and make sure you don't have any alcohol in your room.[/QUOTE]

jeez don't make us sound like such bad guys.
 
[quote name='greatscot']The same guy who comes around to check and make sure you don't have any alcohol in your room.[/QUOTE]

LMAO. Right.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']I'm sure the network connection on campus is blocking the ports needed by XBL, and it'll never work.[/quote]

yup, time to switch schools. Thats something you should look into before you pick a school :)
 
even if you get it connected it will prolly be slow and crappy and you still have a bandwidth limit to deal with....i'd try wireless though....easy to conceal unless people in the dorm will tattle when they see a wireless network pop up on their wireless laptops......isnt there a way to not broadcast the network or something like that?
 
The problem with hooking up the router or bypassing the system in any other way is that you still have to make the IP connection. Therefore if your campus is completely against online gaming, their sysadmin probably has SQL server setup to monitor connections, and if he wants can find out exactly who is connecting to what, when, and for how long. So even if you beat the MTU, there is still a chance you can get in trouble depending on how closely its monitored. I would look into other options, possibly wireless through Sprint/Verizon Wireless, and using a laptop or PC as a router and completely bypassing the campus's network all together. Just depends on how much money you want to spend and how bad you want to play.
 
Unless you are at UM on a scholarship, look into off campus housing for the next semester. If dorm rates are as high as tuition is, I can't imagine apartments being any more expensive.
 
Yeah, living on campus just flat out sucks. Usually costs more and you have to put up with crap like that.

With undergrad, masters and now Ph D, I've been in college for 9 years so far and I only spent the first in the dorms as it was required at my undergrad institution.

Get out ASAP is the best advice you'll ever get.
 
I went to UM 2 years ago, they did not limit bandwith(I used to play CS:S 24-7 with a group of friends on campus). Get a router or switch, unless the techies modified the cane network it should allow you to play on it(have to register your consoles IP address though). By having a router in your room it will also allow your friends to come over and play comp games without using the crummy wireless connection in the towers.
 
They pulled this stuff the last semester I was in college. It wasn’t a huge deal though because you could just play system link on the campus network and there was always a Halo 2 game going on.
 
if they make u use easy access from cisco, if u have a mac u should be able to get away with playing. There is something weird about it since both my friend and i used a router to play online but with easy access i couldn't play and he could, he used a mac i used a pc.
 
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