Neil Young announces new album...and it's already finished

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Neil Young to Announces New Album...And It's Already Finished
Katherine Silkaitis
April 13, 2006

It wasn’t too long ago that Harp’s own Jaan Uhelszki interviewed Neil Young and filmmaker Jonathan Demme at this year’s South by Southwest conference back in March. When SXSW Managing Director Roland Swenson opened the keynote interview, he never could have imagined how prophetic his statement "Neil, we need a new song" would be. Why? Because Young has done just that, and then some.

Demme, who filmed the award-winning documentary Neil Young: Heart of Gold, writes in an e-mail, “Neil just finished writing and recording – with no warning – a new album called Living With War. It all happened in three days.” How rock ‘n ‘roll is that?

Demme continues, “It is a brilliant electric assault, accompanied by a 100-voice choir, on Bush and the war in Iraq…Truly mind blowing. Will be in stores soon.”

Details are pretty scarce, but the featured track, titled “Impeach the President,” features a rap with Bush’s voice set to the choir chanting “flip/flop” and the like.

https://www.harpmagazine.com/news/detail.cfm?article=10623

I respect the man's music, though I never necessarily liked it. The "Impeach the President" track sounds interesting. Possibly political, too.
 
Neil Young was never that good... so, if one purchases his album solely for his political beliefs, one purchased his album to further the hand-holding of music and self-image.

'Tis a shame.
 
[quote name='Storamin']... hollywood liberals should learn to leave politics out of it.[/QUOTE]

fuck you. Neil Young rocks.
 
[quote name='Brak']'Tis a shame.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. We're talking about your taste in music, right? ;)

secretvampire, that dude's just making the logical fallacy of affirming the consequent. That is, he has the idea in his head that all hoolywoodians are liberals, and can't prove it until one of them shows themself to be liberal. So, in short, his argument is that all Hollywoodians are liberals, except when they aren't.

I don't see many people rallyin' round the media elite every time Gary Sinise takes his 'teenstache on the Sean Hannity radio show, but that's really neither here nor there. As we know, Hollywoodians are liberals, except when they aren't.

If you want balance, there is right-wing music: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skrewdriver :twisted:
 
I never got into like Neil Young but he is a heavy influence on the greatest band in the history of the world so he can't be too bad...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Indeed. We're talking about your taste in music, right? ;)[/QUOTE]

o rly
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Good eye, shecky. Good eye.[/quote]

I'm thinking it may have to do with orang-ish round fruits that make Georgia famous, but I'm not certain. :whistle2:k
 
After I heard Rockin' in the Free World the other day I wondered why we hadn't heard any similarly themed songs from Neil recently. Hopefully the music is released soon.
 
[quote name='secretvampire']How the fuck would Neil Young be lumped in with "Hollywood liberals?"[/QUOTE]

Because anyone who is famous and liberal is "hollywood" and "hollywood" types shouldn't be allowed to share their pollitical beliefs. Unless they are conservative of course, then we elect them.

Duh....
 
[quote name='starman9000']Because anyone who is famous and liberal is "hollywood" and "hollywood" types shouldn't be allowed to share their pollitical beliefs. Unless they are conservative of course, then we elect them.

Duh....[/QUOTE]


Plus Neil had a concert movie out a few of years ago. That would make him Hollywood.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7utryGZ25dg

Good on Neil Young. That interviewer seemed like she was auditioning for a role on "FOX News."[/QUOTE]What a bitch, I loved the bit about him being Canadian.

OT: I haven't really gotten around to listening to his music too much, would you guys have any album recommendations for a newcomer?
 
[quote name='DJ K8E']Butch Walker > Neil Young

[/QUOTE]
I've visited this site just about every day for the past 2.5 years and that's probably the most offensive thing I've read in that entire span.
 
[quote name='Ugamer_X']I've visited this site just about every day for the past 2.5 years and that's probably the most offensive thing I've read in that entire span.[/QUOTE]

Coolio.
 
[quote name='JimmieMac']I mean, if you're gonna post a dude nobody knows, at leat post some links to his music.[/QUOTE]

No need. Everyone hates him anyway. Now hurry along, you'll miss the bandwagon!
 
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I'm not familiar with his work, but according to my Image Google search, he's punk as fuck -- coupled with the fact he's collaborated with Avril Lavigne and has a shirt with a curse word on it. And tattoos. :)
 
[quote name='Brak']I'm not familiar with his work, but according to my Image Google search, he's punk as fuck -- coupled with the fact he's collaborated with Avril Lavigne and has a shirt with a curse word on it. And tattoos. :)[/QUOTE]

You just described the woman from Dashboard Confessional. That shit ain't punk - if you make Jawbreaker or Dag Nasty sound tougher than leather by comparison, you're James fucking Taylor.

Don't take DJ K8E seriously - despite her name, she couldn't give one bloody good goddamned music-based explanation as to why someone sucked (can't recall whom precisely). She knows as much about music as I do about nekkid badminton.

Now, she *did* have photos of her singing in what appeared to be a studio, but just because some producer thought sticking her Jay Leno chin and 14 year old body behind a mic doesn't mean she knows shit about songwriting, progression, or production. Just another prefab "Vitamin C" motherfucker, but without recognition, even on the street she lives on. She goes into Safeway hoping for the glint of recognition on the face of a child, as it would truly mean she achieved stardom; lamentably, when the child pushed her out of the way in order to get the "Cocoa Puffs," it was even more damaging than not being recognized.

So, sister christian, how many times you been rejected from getting on "American Idol"? Don't bullshit me, I know you went to the mall each and every time they had auditions, and how awesome it was to sing "The Greatest Love of All" in front of Lane Bryant and Yankee Candle. The catcalls may have been a bit much, though. Right?

EDIT: One last thing I noticed: did you actually write that line in your sig? As in, for a song? One that you hope people will sing back to you on the stage at the "Waffle House"? Seriously, and no bullshit: that's terrible. I know it's one line, but it has no phonetic flow to it, and you're combining the first phrase (poorly worded "I'm a tough street dude who can hold my own") with a polarly-opposed second ("I'm sensitive and stuff *giggle*). I mean it - that shit makes Everlast's rhymes seem like Longfellow by comparison.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']You just described the woman from Dashboard Confessional. That shit ain't punk - if you make Jawbreaker or Dag Nasty sound tougher than leather by comparison, you're James fucking Taylor.[/QUOTE]

I was being facetious. Particularly in jest of his appearance, as that seems very important to him.

I haven't seen a punk person since Iggy Pop, anyway. These days, that shit is as illusive -- and as sugary as -- a unicorn.

They should take the organized "PUNK'S NOT DEAD" campaign of present's old, modify it, and sell "PUNK'S DEAD" on tshirts. That shit is dead as fuck -- that, or absolutely ruined.

Post-Punk is still alive, though. ALIVE AS fuck.

In other news: aren't you being a tad rough on K8E? ... although, now, you've incited my curiosity of an American Idol audition. Or, at least, what kind of music she writes. :O

Edit: I have seen a punk post-Iggy Pop. Wesley Willis.
 
NEIL IS THE MAN! I thought he'd be done after Greendale for sure, but now I'm playing catch up with 3 albums of his.

Here are some recommendations for those who are asking:
--Rust Never Sleeps
--Live Rust (essentially Rust never sleeps with more tracks)
--Decade is an awesome 2 disc Greatest Hits album compiled by Neil himself, if that's your thing
--Harvest
--After the Gold Rush
--Tonights The Night
--Time Fades Away (Never released, but it's up for download at alot of sites--definitely a must have.)

that's just his 70s stuff. he's got all kinds of albums including some really weird shit you wouldn't expect--rockabilly, techno and industrial albums for one thing.

[quote name='DJ K8E']Butch Walker > Neil Young

You talk about any artist on here, you know what my answer's gonna be.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, but it's okay because you just completely invalidated your opinions on music and possibly everything ;)
 
[quote name='DJ K8E']No need. Everyone hates him anyway. Now hurry along, you'll miss the bandwagon![/QUOTE]

You've gotta be kidding me....you just waltzed right in here and said he's better than Neil Young. Neils been making influential and relevant music for the past 40 years. He's more prolific than Butch Walker will ever hope to be. Butch has already sold his soul to Avril Lavigne. He'll be dead from an overdose after his 15 minutes are up and neil will keep rolling on.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']You just described the woman from Dashboard Confessional. That shit ain't punk - if you make Jawbreaker or Dag Nasty sound tougher than leather by comparison, you're James fucking Taylor.

Don't take DJ K8E seriously - despite her name, she couldn't give one bloody good goddamned music-based explanation as to why someone sucked (can't recall whom precisely). She knows as much about music as I do about nekkid badminton.

Now, she *did* have photos of her singing in what appeared to be a studio, but just because some producer thought sticking her Jay Leno chin and 14 year old body behind a mic doesn't mean she knows shit about songwriting, progression, or production. Just another prefab "Vitamin C" motherfucker, but without recognition, even on the street she lives on. She goes into Safeway hoping for the glint of recognition on the face of a child, as it would truly mean she achieved stardom; lamentably, when the child pushed her out of the way in order to get the "Cocoa Puffs," it was even more damaging than not being recognized.

So, sister christian, how many times you been rejected from getting on "American Idol"? Don't bullshit me, I know you went to the mall each and every time they had auditions, and how awesome it was to sing "The Greatest Love of All" in front of Lane Bryant and Yankee Candle. The catcalls may have been a bit much, though. Right?

EDIT: One last thing I noticed: did you actually write that line in your sig? As in, for a song? One that you hope people will sing back to you on the stage at the "Waffle House"? Seriously, and no bullshit: that's terrible. I know it's one line, but it has no phonetic flow to it, and you're combining the first phrase (poorly worded "I'm a tough street dude who can hold my own") with a polarly-opposed second ("I'm sensitive and stuff *giggle*). I mean it - that shit makes Everlast's rhymes seem like Longfellow by comparison.[/QUOTE]


This just brightened my day a little bit.
 
Edit: I have seen a punk post-Iggy Pop. Wesley Willis.

I'm ashamed that I never got to see a Wesley Willis show. I hear his headbutts brought good luck.

R.I.P.
 
[quote name='Apossum']I'm ashamed that I never got to see a Wesley Willis show. I hear his headbutts brought good luck.

R.I.P.[/QUOTE]

Buy the documentary "Wesley Willis - The Daddy of Rock 'n' Roll", like I've been meaning to for the past three years.

It was actually done in a very respectable and positive, non-invidious manner. It's easy to laugh at people, like Wesley, simply because you don't understand them... the filmmaker seems to have understood Wesley very well.
 
[quote name='Brak']Buy the documentary "Wesley Willis - The Daddy of Rock 'n' Roll", like I've been meaning to for the past three years.

It was actually done in a very respectable and positive, non-invidious manner. It's easy to laugh at people, like Wesley, simply because you don't understand them... the filmmaker seems to have understood Wesley very well.[/QUOTE]

I had no idea that existed :shock: I'll have to check it out.
he was (is) a very serious institution in chicago...
 
[quote name='Brak']Buy the documentary "Wesley Willis - The Daddy of Rock 'n' Roll", like I've been meaning to for the past three years.

It was actually done in a very respectable and positive, non-invidious manner. It's easy to laugh at people, like Wesley, simply because you don't understand them... the filmmaker seems to have understood Wesley very well.[/QUOTE]

I'll have to check that out; I saw him perform about 4 times or so, and the crowd was always comprised of "lets laugh at the retard who draws pictures of bus stops and thinks he's a rock star!" crew. Very unsettling. I can't say that I liked his music, but I will say that his persona piqued my interest.

And to whomever (Brak?) said I was being tough on Katie, that dipshit brings it on herself, creepin' on up in here trying to tell us that some paint-by-numbers-junkie is better than Neil fucking Young. That's like trying to tell me that Jackson Pollack is better than me taking a shit.
 
that sucks about the crowd myke...ya sure they weren't laughing with him? the guy has a strange sense of humor. then again, I sometimes give crowds too much credit.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Don't take DJ K8E seriously - despite her name, she couldn't give one bloody good goddamned music-based explanation as to why someone sucked (can't recall whom precisely). She knows as much about music as I do about nekkid badminton.[/QUOTE]

Says you, and who... may I ask.. the fuck are you? Did someone crown you lord of all music recently, or is that ego something you've grown all by your little self?

[quote name='mykevermin']Now, she *did* have photos of her singing in what appeared to be a studio, but just because some producer thought sticking her Jay Leno chin and 14 year old body behind a mic doesn't mean she knows shit about songwriting, progression, or production.[/QUOTE]

Hateful much? I'm 21, by the way, and I do know about songwriting... I've written more songs than there are words in your idiotic post. All of which have been copyrighted and are actually lyrically deeper than anything you could ever come up with, so you just need to shut the fuck up about that as well.

[quote name='mykevermin']Just another prefab "Vitamin C" motherfucker, but without recognition, even on the street she lives on. She goes into Safeway hoping for the glint of recognition on the face of a child, as it would truly mean she achieved stardom; lamentably, when the child pushed her out of the way in order to get the "Cocoa Puffs," it was even more damaging than not being recognized.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I'm good at making you mad aren't I? I think I'll keep doing it, with any luck you'll die of a heart attack before you can shit out another bitter-as-all-hell "I wish I was famous, so people would listen to my bullshit opinions" post.

[quote name='mykevermin']So, sister christian, how many times you been rejected from getting on "American Idol"?[/QUOTE]

I'm cutting off your posts, it's just a waste of space. Anyway, I have never tried out for American Idol, and never will. Because their show is a waste of time, it's only made one person who has won famous, and has ruined the others. If I get famous, it will be based on things I have done, I'm not going to take their "help" and essentially sign over my soul to them. Just won't happen.

[quote name='mykevermin']One last thing I noticed: did you actually write that line in your sig? Blah dee blah dee blah dee fucking blah... on and on and on and on...[/QUOTE]

It's a Butch line. You evidently are not familiar with someone being heartbroken or embittered by something and then becoming the kind that always has to criticize people for anything they can. Oh, wait... maybe you are.

EDIT: Also, there are 4 musicians still alive (off the top of my head), that I believe are better than Butch Walker. Thought I should at least say, I don't think he's the end all, be all. Just damn close.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']You just described the woman from Dashboard Confessional. That shit ain't punk - if you make Jawbreaker or Dag Nasty sound tougher than leather by comparison, you're James fucking Taylor.

Don't take DJ K8E seriously - despite her name, she couldn't give one bloody good goddamned music-based explanation as to why someone sucked (can't recall whom precisely). She knows as much about music as I do about nekkid badminton.

Now, she *did* have photos of her singing in what appeared to be a studio, but just because some producer thought sticking her Jay Leno chin and 14 year old body behind a mic doesn't mean she knows shit about songwriting, progression, or production. Just another prefab "Vitamin C" motherfucker, but without recognition, even on the street she lives on. She goes into Safeway hoping for the glint of recognition on the face of a child, as it would truly mean she achieved stardom; lamentably, when the child pushed her out of the way in order to get the "Cocoa Puffs," it was even more damaging than not being recognized.

So, sister christian, how many times you been rejected from getting on "American Idol"? Don't bullshit me, I know you went to the mall each and every time they had auditions, and how awesome it was to sing "The Greatest Love of All" in front of Lane Bryant and Yankee Candle. The catcalls may have been a bit much, though. Right?

EDIT: One last thing I noticed: did you actually write that line in your sig? As in, for a song? One that you hope people will sing back to you on the stage at the "Waffle House"? Seriously, and no bullshit: that's terrible. I know it's one line, but it has no phonetic flow to it, and you're combining the first phrase (poorly worded "I'm a tough street dude who can hold my own") with a polarly-opposed second ("I'm sensitive and stuff *giggle*). I mean it - that shit makes Everlast's rhymes seem like Longfellow by comparison.[/QUOTE]
Awesome.

Myke easily takes the title as one of the top 5 posters on the board, yet he seldom gets any recognition for his work.
 
[quote name='Brak']In other news: aren't you being a tad rough on K8E?[/QUOTE]

For real. What's up with that? Just stated her opinion and you jump down her throat. Did you send her some crass PM about nude pics, and she told you to go to hell or what? Cause you seriously are havin' some anger management issues. Wait. . .I got it. You're jealous she's actually out there making music like you wish you could?

I say you should let her state her opinion don't get all high & mighty just because it's not what y'all think. That's just cruel man. Not cool.

So. . .

Katie > mykevermin
 
[quote name='Panama Red']For real. What's up with that? Just stated her opinion and you jump down her throat. Did you send her some crass PM about nude pics, and she told you to go to hell or what? Cause you seriously are havin' some anger management issues. Wait. . .I got it. You're jealous she's actually out there making music like you wish you could?

I say you should let her state her opinion don't get all high & mighty just because it's not what y'all think. That's just cruel man. Not cool.

So. . .

Katie > mykevermin[/QUOTE]

If I had no reason to be high and mighty, I wouldn't be. Those threads I tend to stay out of.

And no, I don't think that I should have to respect someone else's opinion. In particular, when it's not supported by anything other than itself (in other words, not grounded in reality), and it's also placed just so as to be antagonistic of the remainder of this thread, then no, I do not have to have any reverence for idiocy.

Perhaps K8E would like to spend the time using BBCode to fabricate a PM of me declaring my love for her in lyrical form (for the record, I like to quote "Phil Collins" when wooing the ladies, if that helps) which would explain my animosity for her. Now, if you want to believe why I did single her out, well, how's about you start with the fact that she's the one trolling this board?

For the record, your psychoanalytic abilities are laughably superficial. I said it in this thread, and I said it in the other one: K8E has not given anyone anywhere any indication that she knows a damned thing about songwriting, recording, or production. She can write lyrics, but y'know who else does: 14-year olds who paint their nails black and carve their names, in runes, into the tables at "Perkins" restaraunts (when they aren't huffing glue or listening to The Sisters of Mercy's "Floodland," that is). Lyrics are the one aspect of a song that can be composed by someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. You aren't gonna get a drum beat from someone who can't even do a basic 4/4, or hand a bass to a moron and get genius back - you *can* do that with lyrics. So, if Katie can go back to whatever thread, find out who in the world she claimed that cookie-cutter "Dr. Feelgood" lookin' motherfucker was superior to, and provide an explanation - FROM A MUSICIAN'S PERSPECTIVE, RATHER THAN A MALL WALKER'S PERSPECTIVE - as to why she believes that to be the case, I'll straight up leave her 'lone. Except for the PM's begging for her album, of course. :roll:

That's my wager.

Seriously. This thread was about Neil Young pulling a "Sega Saturn" on us with a new political album, and that twit decides to laud her favorite "LA Guns" castaway as being superior to a man with the influence, songwriting capability, and overall body of work as Neil Young. Now, that's just stupid. Perhaps you were right in some respect: maybe it didn't deserve a response. Seeing as how, contextually, her post was rather "Ralph Wiggum," so to speak, maybe it was better left alone. OTOH, given her response to my post, I'd say it was worth every moment.

If you don't like it, that's fine. You can defend her honor and maybe she'll send you a signed cd-r of her 11 remixes of "Love is a Battlefield." That's your prerogrative. In the meantime, I'll make myself a CD of Peter Cetera singing "The Glory of Love (Theme From The Karate Kid Part II)," in order that I can play the song anytime you decide to make another post defending K8E. If you'll excuse me, I've not had my coffee.
 
So. . .she has to justify at incredible length I'm sure why she thinks Butch is better than Neil Young, Morrissey, Tool, or whatever quote unquote icon whose zealots are so used to being inviolable and their love for said idol and his artistic notability being unassailable? It's not enough, that it happens to be her cup of tea and not yours? Sorry to bust your everything must be elucidated in an exorbitantly overanalyzed way type bubble but here goes.

Sometimes. . . just sometimes. . . bear with me. . . I may just blow your mind here. . . sometimes. . . who people like. . . has nothing absolutely NOTHING to do with said person's musical proficiency. It may have nothing to do with their songwriting. Who they have worked with. Who they might or might not sound like. What cadency is statistically found in 90% of their songs. Their vocal range. It may indeed have absolutely buttfucking nothing to do with anything even remotely like what you surmise it should.

Sometimes. . . remember, sometimes. . . people like an artist. . . a band. . . or a song. . . because it fits them. Because something in the song sends synapses firing all over the place and shoots a theoretical feeling of euphoria all throughout the persons core self. It's not something you can examine. It's not something you can substantiate. The song that did this to them may suck. . . and I mean SUCK to everyone else in the entire world even the bastards that made it in the first place. However that doesn't change the fact and will not change the fact that person loves the song. You cannot prove personal opinion. . . you cannot asseverate in simple terms why you love a song. . . you can explain why it sounds good. . . or why lots of people might or might not appreciate the song. . . but there is no and I mean NO way to show to another human being why you love a song or indeed an actual artist. It simply cannot be done.

There is also no way to demarcate greatness. You can't juxtapose Hendrix to Clapton. OK? They both played guitar. . . they're both virtuosos. . . but can you prove to me. . . beyond a shadow of a motherfucking doubt. . . that one of them is better than the other?

Answer? No you cannot. Don't even try it. It's not feasible. There is no mathematical formula to prove why any artist is better than any other artist. Because as I said it boils down. . . to personal opinion. Since however I've said personal opinion can't be proven. . . and "greatness" unquestionably cannot be confirmed. . . without a shadow of a doubt in any persons mind. . . there is no way to prove that Butch Walker is better than Neil Young.

It could be that the lyrics to one of his songs reached her at exactly the right moment one day and made her feel good. Maybe one of those songs is a personal anthem to her for some reason.

Whatever the case may in fact be. . . it is farcical. . . contemptible. . . derisory. . . and utterly fucking preposterous that you would ask her to prove why she thinks Butch Walker is better than whoever the fuck it was that she said he was better than that managed to piss you off so much that you continue to write this circumlocutory motherfucking trite as hell self-righteous drivel which you think is ever so perfect and bulletproof that you continue. . . and doubtlessly will persist in doing until the day someone finally puts a bullet in your brainpan because they've had entirely too much of your elitist shit for a few thousand lifetimes. . . to rattle off at an alarming rate even though no one outside of your brainwashed collective of imbecilic near brain dead fan base that I'm sure you're EVER so proud of. . . if in fact they are not you masquerading as someone else to simply supplement your bullshit point to someone you've never met let alone know anything at all about in actuality. . . even likes it or wants to hear word one out of your conceited. . . narcissistic. . . self-important. . . arrogant ass mouth. It is wholly facetious. . . hypocritical as shit and extremely idiotic. . . not to mention narrow-minded as fuck all. . . that you're asking her to prove something that cannot be proven.

She wasn't stating a fact. She wasn't saying Butch Walker is better than Neil Young and whoever else for all times and for all people. That sounds an awful lot like something you would say. . . just change the names a bit and add in a bunch of your own personal beliefs which everyone must also believe. . .or you will send the phantasmal armada that foists your beliefs upon the rest of the world. . . that you wish you had I'm sure. . . after them. There is no way a ratiocinative person a level-headed perspicacious full up to here of common sense person would see what she said as a fact. They would instead see it as a matter of opinion. . . a dissenting opinion but an opinion nonetheless. Yet you choose to blitzkrieg her for simply stating her opinion. . . a harmless opinion.

Say. . . why don't you get all the people that have the same opinions about music as you together. . . overthrow the government and take over the highest seat of power in all the land. You can put to death anyone that likes Butch Walker, Avril Lavigne, Bowling For Soup, Hugh Jackman, malls, has red hair or has had more musical success than you, indeed even anyone named Katie. . . or better yet throw them into concentration camps and torture them slowly so as to enjoy yourself even longer. Not only would people know who you were and follow you blindly. . . and probably a significant amount of them against their God-given will. . . but I'm sure that the history books would talk of you ever so tenderly. You would feel right at home being a dictator. . . because you're already acting like one.

In essence, what I'm trying to say is this: Shut your fucking mouth. . . you insolent snotty. . . poster child for abortion if ever there was one. . . cockeyed inutile pitiable fucking repugnant bastard.

P.S. Though I'm sure you're all riled up to respond to this with your own little cry-baby tirade . . I'll have you know you've made my shitlist. . . pardon me. . . ignore list. . . as a result your miserable fussing will be lost on me. You ignominious prick.
 
First off, I just *knew* you'd click on "view post" if you truly did put me on your ignore list. If not, well, then you're a liar.

You've gone through great effort and a thesaurus to single me out for going through great effort and a thesaurus to single K8E out. And yet *I'm* the tautological one? :rofl:

I'd respond more to your post but (1) you've really gone to great lengths to say so very little and (2) that Peter Cetera song is getting real fucking annoying. You're a trip, homeboy, and you take yourself far too seriously. If only you'd realize that while I may be vindictive, you're funny as hell, and infuriating as - oh, I dunno - a kitten? Marshmallows? Nell Carter?

EDIT: You are correct, of course, that there is no mathematical equation to prove that Clapton is better than Hendrix. That's a valid argument about the factuality of proving one is better than the other. It's unfortunate, however, that I wasn't even arguing such a quantitative analysis. Rather, my wager is simply self-serving, and I want to hear a musician's criticism of an artist from a musician's perspective. It's not a dichotomy of "tehy are teh suxx0r!" or "this regression line proves that Debbie Gibson was 0.8 time beta better than Tiffany." It's a spectrum, and one that expectations lie upon. I hold self-proclaimed "musicians" to higher standards than people who aren't musicians; it's when they let me down in regards to those expectations that I take issue.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']First off, I just *knew* you'd click on "view post" if you truly did put me on your ignore list. If not, well, then you're a liar.

You've gone through great effort and a thesaurus to single me out for going through great effort and a thesaurus to single K8E out. And yet *I'm* the tautological one? :rofl:

I'd respond more to your post but (1) you've really gone to great lengths to say so very little and (2) that Peter Cetera song is getting real fucking annoying. You're a trip, homeboy, and you take yourself far too seriously. If only you'd realize that while I may be vindictive, you're funny as hell, and infuriating as - oh, I dunno - a kitten? Marshmallows? Nell Carter?[/QUOTE]

Are you taunting someone that's technically not there? If so, you're one step away from talking to yourself. Which, I'm sure you do, just to hear yourself talk, eh?
 
[quote name='Panama Red']So. . .she has to justify at incredible length I'm sure why she thinks Butch is better than Neil Young, Morrissey, Tool, or whatever quote unquote icon whose zealots are so used to being inviolable and their love for said idol and his artistic notability being unassailable? It's not enough, that it happens to be her cup of tea and not yours? Sorry to bust your everything must be elucidated in an exorbitantly overanalyzed way type bubble but here goes.

Sometimes. . . just sometimes. . . bear with me. . . I may just blow your mind here. . . sometimes. . . who people like. . . has nothing absolutely NOTHING to do with said person's musical proficiency. It may have nothing to do with their songwriting. Who they have worked with. Who they might or might not sound like. What cadency is statistically found in 90% of their songs. Their vocal range. It may indeed have absolutely buttfucking nothing to do with anything even remotely like what you surmise it should.

Sometimes. . . remember, sometimes. . . people like an artist. . . a band. . . or a song. . . because it fits them. Because something in the song sends synapses firing all over the place and shoots a theoretical feeling of euphoria all throughout the persons core self. It's not something you can examine. It's not something you can substantiate. The song that did this to them may suck. . . and I mean SUCK to everyone else in the entire world even the bastards that made it in the first place. However that doesn't change the fact and will not change the fact that person loves the song. You cannot prove personal opinion. . . you cannot asseverate in simple terms why you love a song. . . you can explain why it sounds good. . . or why lots of people might or might not appreciate the song. . . but there is no and I mean NO way to show to another human being why you love a song or indeed an actual artist. It simply cannot be done.

There is also no way to demarcate greatness. You can't juxtapose Hendrix to Clapton. OK? They both played guitar. . . they're both virtuosos. . . but can you prove to me. . . beyond a shadow of a motherfucking doubt. . . that one of them is better than the other?

Answer? No you cannot. Don't even try it. It's not feasible. There is no mathematical formula to prove why any artist is better than any other artist. Because as I said it boils down. . . to personal opinion. Since however I've said personal opinion can't be proven. . . and "greatness" unquestionably cannot be confirmed. . . without a shadow of a doubt in any persons mind. . . there is no way to prove that Butch Walker is better than Neil Young.

It could be that the lyrics to one of his songs reached her at exactly the right moment one day and made her feel good. Maybe one of those songs is a personal anthem to her for some reason.

Whatever the case may in fact be. . . it is farcical. . . contemptible. . . derisory. . . and utterly fucking preposterous that you would ask her to prove why she thinks Butch Walker is better than whoever the fuck it was that she said he was better than that managed to piss you off so much that you continue to write this circumlocutory motherfucking trite as hell self-righteous drivel which you think is ever so perfect and bulletproof that you continue. . . and doubtlessly will persist in doing until the day someone finally puts a bullet in your brainpan because they've had entirely too much of your elitist shit for a few thousand lifetimes. . . to rattle off at an alarming rate even though no one outside of your brainwashed collective of imbecilic near brain dead fan base that I'm sure you're EVER so proud of. . . if in fact they are not you masquerading as someone else to simply supplement your bullshit point to someone you've never met let alone know anything at all about in actuality. . . even likes it or wants to hear word one out of your conceited. . . narcissistic. . . self-important. . . arrogant ass mouth. It is wholly facetious. . . hypocritical as shit and extremely idiotic. . . not to mention narrow-minded as fuck all. . . that you're asking her to prove something that cannot be proven.

She wasn't stating a fact. She wasn't saying Butch Walker is better than Neil Young and whoever else for all times and for all people. That sounds an awful lot like something you would say. . . just change the names a bit and add in a bunch of your own personal beliefs which everyone must also believe. . .or you will send the phantasmal armada that foists your beliefs upon the rest of the world. . . that you wish you had I'm sure. . . after them. There is no way a ratiocinative person a level-headed perspicacious full up to here of common sense person would see what she said as a fact. They would instead see it as a matter of opinion. . . a dissenting opinion but an opinion nonetheless. Yet you choose to blitzkrieg her for simply stating her opinion. . . a harmless opinion.

Say. . . why don't you get all the people that have the same opinions about music as you together. . . overthrow the government and take over the highest seat of power in all the land. You can put to death anyone that likes Butch Walker, Avril Lavigne, Bowling For Soup, Hugh Jackman, malls, has red hair or has had more musical success than you, indeed even anyone named Katie. . . or better yet throw them into concentration camps and torture them slowly so as to enjoy yourself even longer. Not only would people know who you were and follow you blindly. . . and probably a significant amount of them against their God-given will. . . but I'm sure that the history books would talk of you ever so tenderly. You would feel right at home being a dictator. . . because you're already acting like one.

In essence, what I'm trying to say is this: Shut your fucking mouth. . . you insolent snotty. . . poster child for abortion if ever there was one. . . cockeyed inutile pitiable fucking repugnant bastard.

P.S. Though I'm sure you're all riled up to respond to this with your own little cry-baby tirade . . I'll have you know you've made my shitlist. . . pardon me. . . ignore list. . . as a result your miserable fussing will be lost on me. You ignominious prick.[/QUOTE]

:applause: I don't get what you are saying but you win the record for:

1. Most ellipses in a single post
2. Most bizarre rant I've read
3. The Quantity Over Quality Award for big word usage
4. The "impotent threats that were actually meant to have some kind punctuating effect to your rant" award

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[quote name='mykevermin']Good form, K8E. Good form.

Now post a link to your music.[/QUOTE]

You think I would? You think I'd actually give you something that you're not going to like, no matter what? You've already made up your mind about it, so there's no use in you hearing it.

For the record, here's a short little idea of why I don't like Neil Young. He used to be something, but lately he has turned away from his past, his one man show of the old days, and become this over produced sellout, who doesn't seem to remember the music he used to make in any way shape or form, he replaces the rawness found in his old music with unnecessary instruments and such. He's out of ideas, and he's no longer relevant, he needs to just stop making music, and leave his legacy only mildly tarnished.

Of course I'm not saying I enjoy him, but I respect him somewhatly. As much as I can respect someone that writes the exact same three songs, over, and over, and over, and over, and over.
 
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