New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score

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OAKLAND, Calif. -- California is making it mandatory for cars to be labeled with global warming scores, figures that take into account emissions from vehicle use and fuel production.

The law requiring the labels goes into effect at the start of next year for all 2009 model cars, though its expected the labels will be popping up on cars in the coming months.

The labeling law forces cars for sale to display a global warming score, on a scale of one to 10, which is based on how vehicles in the same model year compare to one another. The higher the score, the cleaner a car is. The score takes into account emissions related to production of fuel for each vehicle as well as the direct emissions from vehicles.

The score will be displayed next to the already-required smog score, which also rates cars one to 10 for how many smog-forming emissions they emit. For both scores, an average vehicle will have a score of five.

California is the first state of pass such as law, and a similar law will take effect in New York for 2010 model year vehicles. Global warming scores will be included on the state's DriveClean website.

While this law is intended to help consumers take into account emissions while purchasing cars, a proposed law in the European Union would require E.U. public sector bodies put a price on emissions.

A law endorsed by the European Parliament's Committee on Environment, Public Health and Food Safety would make governments put a monetary cost on the emissions of vehicles they plan to purchase, and add that to expense calculations. The law would exclude certain types of vehicles, such as ambulances and fire trucks.
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Thoughts?

My opinions on global warming aside, I think this is a very redundant move, especially since it's going right next to the smog emissions score. Pick one or the other. The only thing I can see this will doing is causing buyer confusion (ie, "Well the emissions score is 6 but the global warming score is 5 on this car, but on this one emissions is 7 but global warming is 5.") and just wastes more of our already wasted tax dollars in California. Considering out state finances are in utter turmoil I can't even fathom why our government would spend a dime on this.


edit: Let's try and not have this thread devolve into a debate on whether or not global warming is real or not, and just keep it in line with legislation like this and it's consequences.
 
This is pretty stupid. How can you give something a Global Warming score? Is it like 'If this car is driven X amount of times a day for the next X amount of years we're all gonna die'? I don't see how they can equate this down to a formula and in the end will probably cause a few amount of crimes (hate crimes against cars with high scores?)
 
Let's make the government bigger! :roll:

Stupid fucking law that will serve no purpose other than putting more cost on car dealers.
 
Another objective policy from the left-minded folks in California.

I'm sure the 'Heart Attack Score' on Whopper and cookie packaging isn't far behind.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Let's make the government bigger! :roll:

Stupid fucking law that will serve no purpose other than putting more cost on car dealers.[/QUOTE]

How much do you think stickers cost?
 
[quote name='Msut77']How much do you think stickers cost?[/QUOTE]

well it adds up to a lot with the millions of cars that are in sales lots in california. Not to mention designing the program, implementing a program, setting it up,testing every make and model of every car sold in the state, paying the salaries of the workers, maintaing those salaries, paying for offices/equipment, revising the program each year etc. That adds up to million and millions of dollars that California just doesn't have.
 
Are the stickers ecologicially friendly? Are they recyclable? These are things that must be answered! :roll:
 
RAMSTORIA is correct. And even if it cost a penny, or was free, it wouldn't make a difference, because it would still be the government sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']well it adds up to a lot with the millions of cars that are in sales lots in california. Not to mention designing the program, implementing a program, setting it up,testing every make and model of every car sold in the state, paying the salaries of the workers, maintaing those salaries, paying for offices/equipment, revising the program each year etc. That adds up to million and millions of dollars that California just doesn't have.[/QUOTE]

Short answer pennies added to the cost of each individual car.

RAMSTORIA is correct. And even if it cost a penny, or was free, it wouldn't make a difference, because it would still be the government sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.
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And now we get to the crux of the issue, cons are invariably whiny titty babies with no sense. If cons invented a lightswitch it would go from cluelessness to apoplexy.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Short answer pennies added to the cost of each individual car.



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Government costs aren't passed on to the consumer through an increase in car price.
 
Seems redundant with the emissions and mpg info already on the sticker. I don't have a problem with the government requiring them to put something else on the sticker, shouldn't be a big deal to revise the forms and I'm not some "oh no big brother!" anti-big government person so it just doesn't bother me.

I just don't see the point here since the info doesn't really add anything over the emissions and MPG info.
 
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I just don't see the point here since the info doesn't really add anything over the emissions and MPG info.[/QUOTE]

That's my big thing. The emissions score is already on there. The two scores are going to be right next to eachother AND both use a 1-10 scale! That just stupid. If they wanted to rename or replace the emissions score with a global warming score, then fine, I can live with that. But why spend more money for a redundant program.
 
Have to remember we are talking about a state democratic legislature that has consistently under-budgeted for fire fighting by hundreds of millions nearly every year for several years. They certainly are not brightest minds in the country.

That said, I am mostly ambivalent about the existence of the sticker but it has an atrocious name. I thought PC dictated we should now say "Climate Change" instead of "Global Warming" since many places have been having record setting cold very recently? Isn't the sticker already obsolete? Did the California legislature not get the inconvenient memo?
 
It's CA, pretty much everything they do is pretty stupid.

But beyond the stupidity of this is the fact it is completely pointless.
 
Man... I'm still not done making fun of the Cell phone law. I really gotta move out of Ca. so I can full make fun of here like everyone does to Florida.

Also, Can we make the votes open so we can see who all the idiots are that are voting for this stuff too...?? It's only fair. :roll:
 
[quote name='Msut77']And now we get to the crux of the issue, cons are invariably whiny titty babies with no sense. If cons invented a lightswitch it would go from cluelessness to apoplexy.[/QUOTE]
...What?

Are you drunk?
 
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