New "Green" or "Eco-Friendly" Game Cases or a Conspiracy?

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What do you guys think of these new "green" game and dvd cases? They don't seem to use that much less plastic while the game and movie discs' data side is practically exposed.

Malstrom thinks it's an attack on used games: http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/i-will-buy-no-more-wii-games/

Forum people are arguing over it"
http://www.gamespite.net/talkingtime/showthread.php?p=638544

Personally i think they could have accomplished the 10% less plastic goal without exposing the data side of the disc. I dislike the new cases and I hope something gets changed soon.
 
There's actually another thread about it somewhere on here.. Having gone through Christmas and seen more games with the casing now, I think it's bullshit. I want a whole case.
 
It does use a bit less plastic.

And I couldn't care less about the casing anyway. I haven't gotten any games scratched up yet, and I don't collect games. They go on Goozex (or are sold/traded elsewhere) as soon as I'm done playing them. So no skin off my nose, I'm up for most things to cut back on plastic use.
 
Personally, I can see the argument from both sides. Honestly, to me, its just a case, i put the game in there and it sits on the shelve undamaged, on the other hand when shipping games Ill have to ship with a little more bubblewrap to prevent the case from cracking under pressure. Although, I think a bubble mailer will suffice unless USPS decides to play dodgeball with it.
 
[quote name='lokizz']the whole "green" movement is a conspiracy in itself.[/QUOTE]

Agreed... I say we produce bigger cases to put these green cases into.
 
Im not sure if its just me or is it harder to get the disk out of the new cases now. I have no problem getting out the games from the old cases but for the new ones I feel like im bending the disks when I try to gently get the disk out of the new cases lol.
 
[quote name='bringerofdeath']Im not sure if its just me or is it harder to get the disk out of the new cases now. I have no problem getting out the games from the old cases but for the new ones I feel like im bending the disks when I try to gently get the disk out of the new cases lol.[/QUOTE]


i always had issues with the ps1 cases and sometimes with the ps3 ones but never with the ps2.
 
it's all bullshit like global warming and damn al gore for fooling everyone. this thing about the cases being how they are now is crap. we don't get a discount or anything out of it and if anything, it is worse since the game disc (data) is being exposed and more liable than before to be scratched/damaged. Also, it is harder for me to take the game out of the case now than ever before and am afraid that any little thing will crack the game and make it useless. This is crap and I had no choice but to switch out out the new cases with old 'used' ones from a local video game store.
 
I haven't seen any ps3 games with these cases yet, so Im getting all my multi platform games on the ps3 just based on the cases.
 
I Find it annoying. They're more pain in the ass to get out of versus normal cases to me. Give me my full case dammit! This planet is fucked! Let's accept it and give me my big ass case!
 
[quote name='dusty737']I haven't seen any ps3 games with these cases yet, so Im getting all my multi platform games on the ps3 just based on the cases.[/QUOTE]

lol....sure

and how is this a attack on the used games market? i didn't read that article
 
The author of the blog claimed that it was to make games more prone to damage.

It's actually from another article on his site:

[quote name='malstrom']When I read Iwata’s “statement”, a lightbulb went off in my head. The ‘green cases’ could very well be embraced as an attack on used games. In other words, it is intentional for the game cases to fall apart. The consumer sees no deterioration in quality from used games, said Iwata. Making crap cases would be a quick way to create deterioration in used games.[/QUOTE]
 
PS3 cases are imminent - I have two blu ray movies with these eco cases.

I wouldn't be surprised if the used game thing wasn't secondary to the eco reasons. The used cases with these are going to be torn up on the shelves.
 
[quote name='Strell']Life sure is hard, man.[/QUOTE]

It's an insignificant issue in the scope of real life, but on a penny-pinching game website it's quite pertinent.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']The author of the blog claimed that it was to make games more prone to damage.

It's actually from another article on his site:[/QUOTE]

Im sure that won't be happening to me as I treat my cases as they are my children. Although I can see how these cases can easily crack if you treat it like shit though.
 
Actually as a former postal clerk I can tell you there is a very good reason we called sorting parcels "throwing".

[quote name='LilPaintballer']Personally, I can see the argument from both sides. Honestly, to me, its just a case, i put the game in there and it sits on the shelve undamaged, on the other hand when shipping games Ill have to ship with a little more bubblewrap to prevent the case from cracking under pressure. Although, I think a bubble mailer will suffice unless USPS decides to play dodgeball with it.[/QUOTE]
 
I'm no eco-nut but I don't see a problem with this.

They're removing plastic from the cases to remove weight, which uses less fuel for shipping.

This is a problem why?
 
[quote name='willardhaven']It's an insignificant issue in the scope of real life, but on a penny-pinching game website it's quite pertinent.[/QUOTE]

No it's not.
 
I'm sure the first thing that came into minds of the people who are in charge is the fact that it saves them a bit of money. Granted, it'll probably be just a few pennies saved for each case, but it adds up after you produce millions of copies of games(and maybe even cheaper shipping costs due to less weight?). I think the fact that it can be seen as a "green" thing is simply a way to spin this, and not the main reason for switching to it.

Besides, if the structural rigidity is still there, then is there really a big problem? I understand its now more prone to having holes being poked on the front and back covers of the case, but has that ever really been a problem to anyone? Then again, this is all coming from a guy who keeps his games safely in a cabinet.

For the record, they can keep it as it is or go back to the way it was. Either way, I honestly don't care. As I alluded to before, I always took good care of my games.
 
[quote name='Strell']No it's not.[/QUOTE]

To some people it is. It might be stupid and irrelevant to you, but so is the whole Greatest Hits debate to others, etc. I don't know what to tell you good sir.
 
[quote name='willardhaven'] I don't know what to tell you good sir.[/QUOTE]

You clearly don't, because you can't illustrate why this is an issue to anyone. (Note: the below is said to a general/understood "you" and not directly.)

Why would it be? Shipping used games to each other? You can recycle used materials from Amazon or previous trades for that. Ask friends and family to give you their leftover shipping stuff. Get it from your place of work - they throw this stuff out all the time. If people were actually upset by this, then they'd have realized there's plenty they can do to avoid postage issues. And really, using a leftover box or bubble mailer is roughly equivalent in price. This site promotes buying things online for cheap prices. That ought to keep you stocked by itself.

So what's next? You can't get them out of the case as easily? That's just pathetic. There must be no end of motor skill related obstacles to overcome if that's the case. Like tying your shoes, or chewing gum and walking at the same time.

Mad about how they make your cases look? Sounds like someone like that is a vain dipshit who probably spends too much money styling their hair. If you've got to invent this as a problem in your life, holy hell are you a self-entitled ass. How much time would a person - on average, per year - have to stare at their inanimate plastic cases holding silicon circles for this to totally ruin their shit? Hell, go to, say, Blockbuster or something, and ask them for cases they are about to throw out. I'm sure Gamestop or local game stores could offload them onto someone willing as well.

This outrage is manufactured bullshit, a lot of wild gesticulating babies all flapping their mouths at each other hoping to make some sense out of their own rabble rousing nonsense. I'm totally up for a legit issue if one can be presented to me, but since any and all of them I can think of at the moment can be resolved with little energy on the part of the person in question, I'm failing to see this supposed problem.

Find SOMETHING ELSE to cry about. Not everything is a conspiracy, and not everything is an attack on your lifestyle. This should rank far below manageable problems, right on down to whether or not giant killer tomatoes are real and might someday run amok in our cities. But let's not actually take a step back and question whether or not this honestly affects our lives, when we can JUST GET REALLY LOUD ABOUT IT.
 
It's not like I was readying a lynch mob to head to Microsoft and Nintendo's offices, I just started a discussion. Once again, people talk about Greatest Hits games all the time, so I figured this would fit right in. You want to go right for the jugular over such a trivial issue?

How about you just relax?
 
I just think this one tiny thing suddenly turning into political agendas/conspiracies/meltdowns about gaming in general/all the other trumped up bullshit I'm seeing in your OP links is astounding, to say nothing of some of the brain dead responses this thread has already created.

How hard life must be, in our warm shelters with computer access and having eaten multiple times today, that we set aside time to moan about plastic rectangles, destruction upon civilization their altering brings.

And don't worry. Unlike the majority of people, I can say a lot of words and remain pretty calm. I know that's really contrary to general opinion these days.
 
While I prefer a sturdy case, at least we're not back to the NES and SNES days of cardboard box only packaging...

"Going green" these days is mostly just a PR move by companies these days. If companies had switched to these new packages without the "we're going green" campaign behind it they would have been decried as cheap and shafting us. As it is, now they're seen as champions of the environment when in reality its more about saving $ than the environment...
 
[quote name='Strell']I just think this one tiny thing suddenly turning into political agendas/conspiracies/meltdowns about gaming in general/all the other trumped up bullshit I'm seeing in your OP links is astounding, to say nothing of some of the brain dead responses this thread has already created.

How hard life must be, in our warm shelters with computer access and having eaten multiple times today, that we set aside time to moan about plastic rectangles, destruction upon civilization their altering brings.

And don't worry. Unlike the majority of people, I can say a lot of words and remain pretty calm. I know that's really contrary to general opinion these days.[/QUOTE]

Honestly I pictured the German kid who broke the keyboard in that old video. Are you really suggesting you're cool and confident while flipping out over a case thread? Like I said, it's not an issue to everyone, but why waste time fighting over it if you think it's well, a waste of time? You could just let the thread fall to the bottom of the forum and never deal with it again.

I just wanted to hear what other people thought about the new cases, and I guess you don't care... extremely.
 
I'm asking everyone for perspective. It's sad no one wants to admit to that though, and would rather dream up things like governments-on-parade in yur base, steelin' yer plastiks.

Sorry that a lot of words overwhelms you, when people are saying far more idiotic things with so few. But I already tried that, if you'll recall my first two posts in this thread.
 
What perspective? You are ranting about a thread with less than 50 posts in it about perspective. I get that you have an opinion and you want to keep stating it over and over again. Do game collectors who dislike scratches on their cases piss you off too? I feel like we're going in circles.

I'm not likening the new cases to homelessness, starvation or genocide. Who are you to think that you are the sole possessor of the perspective needed to judge whether or not these cases are worth discussing? Is this your private website? Did I spill my thread on your new shirt?
 
[quote name='willardhaven']What perspective? You are ranting about a thread with less than 50 posts in it about perspective. [/QUOTE]

And in those few posts, I've seen some tremendous bullshit.

If and when these cases present a big problem, call me up. But they haven't, and no one can think of one, except for easily fixed nuisances that people already built into mountains.

Otherwise, your response is pretty cute. I want to pet it.
 
[quote name='Strell']You clearly don't, because you can't illustrate why this is an issue to anyone. (Note: the below is said to a general/understood "you" and not directly.)

Why would it be? Shipping used games to each other? You can recycle used materials from Amazon or previous trades for that. Ask friends and family to give you their leftover shipping stuff. Get it from your place of work - they throw this stuff out all the time. If people were actually upset by this, then they'd have realized there's plenty they can do to avoid postage issues. And really, using a leftover box or bubble mailer is roughly equivalent in price. This site promotes buying things online for cheap prices. That ought to keep you stocked by itself.

So what's next? You can't get them out of the case as easily? That's just pathetic. There must be no end of motor skill related obstacles to overcome if that's the case. Like tying your shoes, or chewing gum and walking at the same time.

Mad about how they make your cases look? Sounds like someone like that is a vain dipshit who probably spends too much money styling their hair. If you've got to invent this as a problem in your life, holy hell are you a self-entitled ass. How much time would a person - on average, per year - have to stare at their inanimate plastic cases holding silicon circles for this to totally ruin their shit? Hell, go to, say, Blockbuster or something, and ask them for cases they are about to throw out. I'm sure Gamestop or local game stores could offload them onto someone willing as well.

This outrage is manufactured bullshit, a lot of wild gesticulating babies all flapping their mouths at each other hoping to make some sense out of their own rabble rousing nonsense. I'm totally up for a legit issue if one can be presented to me, but since any and all of them I can think of at the moment can be resolved with little energy on the part of the person in question, I'm failing to see this supposed problem.

Find SOMETHING ELSE to cry about. Not everything is a conspiracy, and not everything is an attack on your lifestyle. This should rank far below manageable problems, right on down to whether or not giant killer tomatoes are real and might someday run amok in our cities. But let's not actually take a step back and question whether or not this honestly affects our lives, when we can JUST GET REALLY LOUD ABOUT IT.[/QUOTE]

damn chill out I see no reason to get upset over this topic for the so reason that some people think the old cases are just better at protecting the game which is a fact.
 
The internet is serious business! These green 'eco' cases ARE a government conspiracy. The US government is in our base stealin' our plastics!

Whats the problem with these cases you might ask?
6 extra holes for birds and fish to get caught into.
They are ugly. (debatable)
No savings are passed to the consumers. (as of yet)
Less plastic=less child labor.
Less child labor=more drug abuse.
Drug abuse=more Twilight sequels.
More Twilight sequels=Da Apocalypse.

There you go. Think about it! JUST THINK ABOUT IT! Usually when I'm done playing with my current videogame, I, like many good gamers do, is to jump into my car (pref a Hummer), drive 10 miles to the local beach and throw my game case (with game) into the sea. Why? Because its the only way I know how to dispose of a game that I'll never play again(and you shouldn't be asking why! Thousands of gamers do it! I'm sure you do it too!). But now, with these 'holes' in the cases, birds, fish, and dumb turtles are gonna get their heads stuck into the cases. We can't have that! Think of the dumb turtles! Silly turtles! You belong in my turtle soup!

Less plastic means less child labor. Child labor is good. Less child labor is bad. If less kids work they will be bored and that means that they will resort to sniffing crack cocaine and doing LSD which the stole from someone. Somehow. Thus destroying their will to work. Which is bad because kids need to work. HORRAY cheap labor! Where does Twilight come into play? People who like Twilight are HEAVY drug users. HEAVY! 4 realz. What sane person would fall in love with a good looking vampire who looks like an Abercrombie and Fitch model(exemption: Vampirella)? Answer: drug users.

And da Apocalypse? It's gonna happen because - Hey look it's Candlejack. Hey man what are you doin
 
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[quote name='EarthBound Sucks']The internet is serious business! These green 'eco' cases ARE a government conspiracy. The US government is in our base stealin' our plastics!

Whats the problem with these cases you might ask?
3 extra holes for birds and fish to get caught into.
They are ugly. (debatable)
No savings are passed to the consumers. (as of yet)
Less plastic=less child labor.
Less child labor=more drug abuse.
Drug abuse=more Twilight sequels.
More Twilight sequels=Da Apocalypse.

There you go. Think about it! JUST THINK ABOUT IT! Usually when I'm done playing with my current videogame, I, like many good gamers do, is to jump into my car (pref a Hummer), drive 10 miles to the local beach and throw my game case (with game) into the sea. Why? Because its the only way I know how to dispose of a game that I'll never play again(and you shouldn't be asking why! Thousands of gamers do it! I'm sure you do it too!). But now, with these 'holes' in the cases, birds, fish, and dumb turtles are gonna get their heads stuck into the cases. We can't have that! Think of the dumb turtles! Silly turtles! You belong in my turtle soup!

Less plastic means less child labor. Child labor is good. Less child labor is bad. If less kids work they will be bored and that means that they will resort to sniffing crack cocaine and doing LSD which the stole from someone. Somehow. Thus destroying their will to work. Which is bad because kids need to work. HORRAY cheap labor! Where does Twilight come into play? People who like Twilight are HEAVY drug users. HEAVY! 4 realz. What sane person would fall in love with a good looking vampire who looks like an Abercrombie and Fitch model(exemption: Vampirella)? Answer: drug users.

And da Apocalypse? It's gonna happen because - Hey look it's Candlejack. Hey man what are you doin[/QUOTE]
Earthbound doesn't suck.
 
[quote name='Strell']I'm asking everyone for perspective. It's sad no one wants to admit to that though, and would rather dream up things like governments-on-parade in yur base, steelin' yer plastiks.[/QUOTE]

I like that. I think I'll sig it. :D
 
If you want to sum it up succinctly, we're getting less for our money. Whether that "less factor" is significant or not is up to someone's opinion. The bottom line is we are getting inferior cases. That sucks.
 
[quote name='letsgetacid']The bottom line is we are getting inferior cases. That sucks.[/QUOTE]

I would argue that the bottom line is we are getting cases that in no way, shape or form affect our enjoyment of the games they contain. I've had the old style cases crack. I'm sure I'll have the new style cases crack. Nothing has changed. You may all take off your tinfoil hats and go back to your homes.

Seriously, don't people have real issues to worry about? Credit card interest rates being doubled for existing debt holders? The billions the US govt gave to airlines for their failed security? Friends dying in war? And you all want outrage because publishers found that some of the plastic in their game cases was unnecessary? Strell said it once, but seriously: Per-spec-tive.
 
I'm surprised that the company didn't make the cases smaller... like Blurays are. Or even hark back to the CD case, but now in cheaper plastic.

The cases I could care less... they are sturdy enough to remove a disc and insert it back into it. If you're doing more, and actually damage it, sucks to be you, your fault not the case.

the guy posted blog in the op is funny, goes on a tirade about the case and quickly slides into a Wii bash... freaking guy needs some lithium or prozac and a life.
 
I don't even think I've seen any of these. What are some recent 360 games that have them? maybe I just haven't noticed.
 
[quote name='Hybrid5006']Agreed... I say we produce bigger cases to put these green cases into.[/QUOTE]


Lets spray them with hairspray and store them in the refrigerator for good measure! :whee:

(also I haven't seen any of these new cases yet)
 
I think most 360 games are switching to them like modern warfare 2, left 4 dead 2, assassins creed 2, brutal legend, and marvel ultimate alliance 2 if any body hasn't seen them around yet.
 
[quote name='Strell']
So what's next? You can't get them out of the case as easily? That's just pathetic. There must be no end of motor skill related obstacles to overcome if that's the case. Like tying your shoes, or chewing gum and walking at the same time.
[/QUOTE]

I dunno. I don't think there is a conspiracy, but I had noticed it has been more annoying/harder/bending my discs to get them out of cases. I hadn't really thought of it as a byproduct of the new design until I read this. If it's place on a flat surface it's just as easy, but holding it in the air one handed and popping the disc out now requires two hands.

I'm not crying over it, and it probably wasn't intentional, but I noticed it independently; previous to reading this rant.
 
[quote name='Phokis'] If it's place on a flat surface it's just as easy, but holding it in the air one handed and popping the disc out now requires two hands.

[/QUOTE]

WHERE IS YOUR OTHER HAND?!? AND WHAT IS IT DOING?!?

Hand check! Hand check! Show hands now!


Well they are going to be sorry when all the one armed people of nation OneArm get these new cases...:applause:
 
[quote name='lokizz']the whole "green" movement is a conspiracy in itself.[/QUOTE]

Of course, Americans typically say this utter and complete nonsense. Living in their ivory towers they have not seen nor experienced firsthand the impacts of climate change. Go to another country, a third world country, and see the conditions. There is no argument when you see REALITY. Not what you watch on your boobtube or read on some BS internet conspiracy site about the global elite (who are reptilian) who are creating climate change out of thin air. Now, if you could prove that they have weather control devices then you may be on to something...

And seriously OP, this is your big cause? There are PLENTY of other worthwhile issues going on in the world and right here in the US.
 
[quote name='joeboosauce']Of course, Americans typically say this utter and complete nonsense. Living in their ivory towers they have not seen nor experienced firsthand the impacts of climate change. Go to another country, a third world country, and see the conditions. There is no argument when you see REALITY. Not what you watch on your boobtube or read on some BS internet conspiracy site about the global elite (who are reptilian) who are creating climate change out of thin air. Now, if you could prove that they have weather control devices then you may be on to something...

And seriously OP, this is your big cause? There are PLENTY of other worthwhile issues going on in the world and right here in the US.[/QUOTE]

im pretty sure everyone has experienced the effects of climate change regardless of where you live but this whole labeling something "green" makes it better for the environment deal is complete bs. just like buying carbon offsets you pay money so you dont feel guilt for using things that hurt the environment its laughable.

you want to help the environment changing a few game cases isnt going to do anything in the long run. not using oil would have a much bigger positive effect on our environment and there are alternatives to it out there so why not focus on that ?

its right there in your face and yet it will never happen because those in power dont want it to ( not here anyway). i know some of you think that conspiracy theories are bs and all an some are but its pretty obvious what needs to be one to improve the condition of the planet but the people in charge arent doing it. why is that?
 
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