New Obama Plan Would Allow Fed to take over any Company it Wants

fullmetalfan720

CAGiversary!
Feedback
11 (100%)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ing-power-over-companies/?feat=home_headlines
The Federal Reserve, already arguably the most powerful agency in the U.S. government, will get sweeping new authority to regulate any company whose failure could endanger the U.S. economy and markets under the Obama administration's regulatory overhaul plan.
The final plan due to be released on Wednesday -- which originally aimed to streamline and consolidate banking and securities regulation in one or two agencies -- now is expected to sidestep most jurisdictional disputes and simply impose across the board standards to be applied by all financial regulators, according to administration and industry sources.
The most likely candidate for elimination is the Office of Thrift Supervision, whose failure to detect and forestall problems at Countrywide, IndyMac, Washington Mutual and other freewheeling mortgage lenders is thought to have contributed to the financial crisis.
The decision to concentrate sweeping new powers at the already overstretched Fed is not without controversy. Sen. Christopher J. Dodd, chairman of the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, which must approve any regulatory overhaul, has raised objections to that approach, and so has Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila C. Bair.

Ms. Bair advocates an alternative where a council of top bank regulators would make decisions on whether to step in, regulate or close major corporations like the American International Group whose failure posed a risk to the whole economy and financial system. The Fed stepped in to save AIG last year without having such powers, but the result was a costly and muddled bailout that no one wants to repeat.
To accommodate dissenting views, the administration will propose that a council of regulators advise the Fed, although the Fed will have the final say, according to administration officials. The new powers augment the Fed's existing broad authorities to intervene to prevent crises that could seriously damage the markets and economy.
"What we're trying to do is focus on the things that were at the core of the problems we saw in the crisis," said Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner at a Time Warner Economic Summit in New York on Monday.
"When you have too many people involved, there's an accountability problem," he said. "At the core of making the system stronger is to give one place in the system clear accountability, responsibility and authority for preventing future crises."
Mr. Geithner said that while the administration would have preferred a more streamlined regulatory structure with fewer agencies, ensuring fewer gaps in oversight and less opportunity for "regulatory arbitrage" by lenders, it would have had to start "from scratch" to accomplish that. It decided instead to work within the patchwork of multiple agencies established over the past century or so in response to various financial crises.
While the administration decided against merging the Securities and Exchange Commission and Commodity Futures Trading Commission, it will insist on plugging the extensive gaps that have allowed some of the largest securities markets in world history, known as derivatives, to develop without oversight or regulation.
"All derivatives contracts will be subject to regulation and all derivatives dealers subject to supervision," Mr. Geithner said in an opinion piece Monday co-authored by National Economic Council Director Lawrence H. Summers, adding that "regulators will be empowered to enforce rules against manipulation and abuse."
Mr. Geithner said a key part of the plan will impose stiffer requirements for setting aside reserve capital by large financial institutions whose far-flung and risky activities around the world pose the greatest threat of disrupting markets.
Strengthening protections for consumers and investors, possibly through a new commission charged with monitoring the development of new loans and instruments in the marketplace, also will be an important new element of the plan, he said.
Or as the L.A. Times puts it
The plan would give the government new powers to seize key companies whose failure jeopardizes the financial system, as well as creation of a watchdog agency to look out for consumers' interests.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-financial-regs16-2009jun16,0,4262249.story
Too bad the Federal Reserve is a private bank, and is above the law.
Here's the proof:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3mEe8TH7w&feature=player_embedded (at 7:40 mark.)
This plan would allow the Fed to do whatever it wants now. It can already control the entire economy, and print money, and now it can take over any corporation it wants. Well, goodbye America. It was good while it lasted.
 
Codifying the bailout process. Of course, since Bush's/Obama's bailouts have been so spectacularly successful, we need to make sure there is an easier way to do it next time. What is the next thing after trillion, kajillion or something?
 
[quote name='Friend of Sonic']That's like giving Q the ability to give Picard a boner at any time. It isn't right.[/QUOTE]
I'm calling your analogy out.

Those speed suits fit like a god damn dream. Picard pretty much had no control over anything below the waist.
 
title is misleading

New Obama Plan Would Allow Fed to take over any Shitty Company it Wants

fix'd

gotta make sure the taxpayer's portfolio is filled with failures
 
[quote name='Koggit']title is misleading

New Obama Plan Would Allow Fed to take over any Shitty Company it Wants

fix'd

gotta make sure the taxpayer's portfolio is filled with failures[/QUOTE]

You have earned a new title! Would you like the fairly pedestrian title of...1.idiot.

The more spicy title of...2.putz.

The more apt title of...3.schmuck.

I mean really?! You're this fucking stupid?! If someone goes against the Fed or calls them out suddenly they'll be found to be a company with bad records.

I'll grant anyone this is more obvious then when they created the Great Depression to buy most companies back at pennies on the dollar, especially media companies, and hired puppets to do their work.
 
[quote name='Koggit']title is misleading

New Obama Plan Would Allow Fed to take over any Shitty Company it Wants

fix'd

gotta make sure the taxpayer's portfolio is filled with failures[/QUOTE]

The Fed is not regulated. It is a private company. This new policy would give it the ability to take over any company it wants. The financial stability of a company is determined by the Fed, and no one can do anything about any decision the Fed makes. Therefore, the Fed can take over any company it wants to.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']You're this fucking stupid?! If someone goes against the Fed or calls them out suddenly they'll be found to be a company with bad records.[/QUOTE]
rofl.. we've got some terrible troofers here but you take the cake.. yeah AIG and GM totally went against the fed and that's 100% why they failed, totally yeah it's all a conspiracy, down with The Man and anal probes or whatever it is he's doing to us
 
[quote name='Koggit']rofl.. we've got some terrible troofers here but you take the cake.. yeah AIG and GM totally went against the fed and that's 100% why they failed, totally yeah it's all a conspiracy, down with The Man and anal probes or whatever it is he's doing to us[/QUOTE]

Oh, so you will just deny everything, especially facts, and dismiss people as troofers. The fact is that this new proposal by Obama would give the federal reserve dictatorial powers over the financial system.
 
[quote name='fullmetalfan720']this new proposal by Obama would give the federal reserve dictatorial powers over the financial system.[/QUOTE]
^true statement if you believe the government is actually a group of shadowy overlords who would cook the books to take over public companies
 
[quote name='Koggit']^true statement if you believe the government is actually a group of shadowy overlords who would cook the books to take over public companies[/QUOTE]
No, its a fact. Open your eyes. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact. This bill would give the Fed the power to seize any company that's failure might hurt the economy. The Fed can say that any company's failure would hurt the economy. As Alan Greenspan pointed out, the Fed is above the law. Therefore, the Fed can take over any company it wants, and not be held accountable. Did you ever learn about proofs in math class? This is one. Shit, next thing you're going to tell me is that the existence of the Constitution is a conspiracy theory..........
 
No, it's a conspiracy theory that the Constitution has applied to everyone equally. Therefore, the Constitution doesn't exist for everyone.
 
[quote name='fullmetalfan720']No, its a fact. Open your eyes. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact. This bill would give the Fed the power to seize any company that's failure might hurt the economy. The Fed can say that any company's failure would hurt the economy. As Alan Greenspan pointed out, the Fed is above the law. Therefore, the Fed can take over any company it wants, and not be held accountable. Did you ever learn about proofs in math class? This is one. Shit, next thing you're going to tell me is that the existence of the Constitution is a conspiracy theory..........[/QUOTE]
you're right, i misunderstood the bill -- i thought the company had to be failing, it appears it could be in fine shape and the fed still seize it, the bill definitely needs some work to impose those restrictions. though you'd still have to believe they're the shadowy overlord types to believe they'd exercise that ability to seize a healthy company.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I'm going to re-read Atlas Shrugged in the near future.[/QUOTE]


Why would you want to re-read what has been regarded by many as a horrible book with a laughable philosophy?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
[quote name='depascal22']They're always shadowy overlords when they're not passing legislation you want.[/QUOTE]

I never said anything about some "shadowy overlords." I just think its very dangerous to give a private corporation this much power over the economy. There is too much potential for corruption, and stupidity as evidenced by this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ

(At around 3:46 mark)They can't figure out what happened to 9 TRILLION DOLLARS. Why would anyone give them the power to take over any company they want?
 
bread's done
Back
Top