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Just wondering if anyone here likes elctronic music, and if you know where to find a good selection of cds/LP's that's NOT ebay. Right now I'm looking for Geomantick by Prana and people on Ebay want upwards of 30 bucks for it USED. Anyone with some suggestions on where to find some good electronica deals, please, enlighten me.
 
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Okay, Virgin Megastore has some of th best selection of electronic music I've ever seen. The cost may be slighty better than ebay. But in big cities like San Fran, NYC and chicago there has got to little indy stores that specialize in carrying electronic especially for DJ's.
 
the problem is I live in buttfu*k nowhere and the ONLY music store we have is in our small mall. Believe me, they have nothing. NOTHING unless you like ol' Nickelback and Avril with a side helpin' of Nelly and 50 cent. I'll check out Virgin's website, but if you have anymore, let me know.
 
Amazon has one for 20 used: link.

In any case, this sounds like it's both rare and an import. I don't think it's going to be cheap no matter where you look.
 
Reality's Fringe]Just wondering if anyone here likes elctronic music said:
if you're looking for the cd version of Prana's "Geomantik", that shouldn't be too hard to find. might be a bit expensive, but you can find it. if you're looking for the vinyl version, good luck. you'll pay $80+ for it, if you can even find someone selling it. Sasha & Digweed used the "Geomantik" track in their Northern Exposure 2 cd set. of all the records they played in that set, it's one of the most difficult to find.

in any case, I absolutely love electronic music. give me an idea what you're into, ie, trance (which Prana gets lumped under), house, techno, etc, and I can give you some recommendations. if you're looking for stuff available in the UK, try Amazon's UK site, www.amazon.co.uk. it's actually a pretty good deal for most stuff, as you'll get 15% off the prices (VAT is either not in the prices, or deducted when you go to check out), and the shipping is CHEAP for an overseas company.
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Right now, like I said, I'm interested in the Geomantick Cd(I'll take a cd at this point). The one in the amazon link is of German release, and I'd rather have the North american/Uk release. It sucks that it's the hardest one to find because it has one of my favorite "Psytrance" songs of all time on it; "Boundless". In addition to that, I'm looking for a good price on a Digital Orgasm cd that has the track "Moog Eruption" on it(single is fine). Let's see, various Cydonia cds, Man Made Man (Drama), The Delta, Johann, 1200 micrograms, Cybernaut, The Orb (I know these are easy to find, but I'm looking for U.F. ORB at a reasonable rate) Union Jack's There Will Be No Armmageddon for less than 25 bucks (this is probably easy to find) Renegade Legion, Nitzer Ebb, Necton (B12 Cocktail) . That's all I can think of for now. Some of these I know what sites serll them, but they're all out of stock, I'm basically looking for a lot of GOA, Psytrance, and Acid but if you know of any really good electronic music sites I'd like to hear about it. Always looking to broaden my horizons. As for Sasha and Digiweed's Northern Exposure; I'm not a big fan, but there's surely some quality in it.
 
Sorry for the double post, but the reason I don't have several of these cds is because of the UK cost, I mean, when the cd is already 24 pounds with a 8 pund shipping cost, it runs into "Make my wallet cry" territory. I'll check out the Amazon Uk Site though, thanks.
 
if you don't mind, could one of you please explain what you find enjoyable about techno? i really don't enjoy it, and am very perplexed as to why other people do. so if you could maybe help me understand, that would be pretty neat.
 
I don't know, why don't you explain to me why you like your music? I just like it, like I enjoy the taste of chocolate or a warm summer day. I could go into some huge spiel about how it represents the base instinctual reaction humans have to music, but that's a bunch of shit. I enjoy it because I enjoy it. I honestly feel that the reason more people don't enjoy it is because of what they're brainwashed into thinking "Techno" is (Darude, Oakenfold Robert Miles etc).
 
i was just curious. i'll refrain from ripping on it because that wouldn't accomplish anything, but i would like to point out that i have been exposed to a wide variety of "electronic" music (although it's all techno to me). me saying i don't like it isn't from some person who has only heard...i don't know, bad boy bill? (the kids like him, right? while we're on that topic, how can you call yourself "bad boy bill" and still look at yourself in the mirror every morning?)

anyways, i'll answer my own question to show it's somewhat doable. i like some bands that write good songs. some are unique, some write great lyrics, some are really sad and depressing, others are angry, whatever. the underlying theme to all of it is that it comes across as genuine, and that's something that i find hard to swallow about techno. that, and the fact that it gives me a massive headache. seriously, like we have techno djs come in to where i work every year during the detroit techno-fest thing (labor day weekend), and i guess it's a bunch of different sub-genres or whatever, all i know is that half of them "perform" off of laptaps, if you call that performing. then again, i don't call spinning records performing either. anyways, they usually turn it up too loud and it makes me physically ill to listen to it. besides, every other day i have to hear the techno throbbing out of the dance room when i go to work.

oh well.
 
[quote name='thatstoobad']i was just curious. i'll refrain from ripping on it because that wouldn't accomplish anything, but i would like to point out that i have been exposed to a wide variety of "electronic" music (although it's all techno to me). me saying i don't like it isn't from some person who has only heard...i don't know, bad boy bill? (the kids like him, right? while we're on that topic, how can you call yourself "bad boy bill" and still look at yourself in the mirror every morning?)

anyways, i'll answer my own question to show it's somewhat doable. i like some bands that write good songs. some are unique, some write great lyrics, some are really sad and depressing, others are angry, whatever. the underlying theme to all of it is that it comes across as genuine, and that's something that i find hard to swallow about techno. that, and the fact that it gives me a massive headache. seriously, like we have techno djs come in to where i work every year during the detroit techno-fest thing (labor day weekend), and i guess it's a bunch of different sub-genres or whatever, all i know is that half of them "perform" off of laptaps, if you call that performing. then again, i don't call spinning records performing either. anyways, they usually turn it up too loud and it makes me physically ill to listen to it. besides, every other day i have to hear the techno throbbing out of the dance room when i go to work.

oh well.[/quote]


Again, that's all a relative point of view. I, personally, can't stand this nu rock or punk crap. I find it to be the same whiny, half-hearted, self-righteous bullshit over and over again. But you know, some people like it like some people like Celine Dion. For the record, anyone who "performs" off of a laptop is NOT a DJ. You are not a Dj unless you can mix and that immediatly disqualifies practically all of them. Electronica is ( I know it sounds corny) a kind of pure music to me. It covers a much broader spectrum than most people realize and it's not just for dumbass Meth huffing ravers. It can be angry, it can be joyous, cold, indifferent, hopeful, or full of despair. What I like most about electronica is that it accomplishes this wide range of emotion without the use of extensive lyrics and to me that is real talent.
 
Reality's Fringe]Electronica is (I know it sounds corny) a kind of pure music to me. It covers a much broader spectrum than most people realize and it's not just for dumbass Meth huffing ravers. It can be angry said:
that's all i asked in the first place.
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[quote name='thatstoobad']
anyways, i'll answer my own question to show it's somewhat doable. i like some bands that write good songs. some are unique, some write great lyrics, some are really sad and depressing, others are angry, whatever. the underlying theme to all of it is that it comes across as genuine, and that's something that i find hard to swallow about techno. that, and the fact that it gives me a massive headache. seriously, like we have techno djs come in to where i work every year during the detroit techno-fest thing (labor day weekend), and i guess it's a bunch of different sub-genres or whatever, all i know is that half of them "perform" off of laptaps, if you call that performing. then again, i don't call spinning records performing either.[/quote]

as I own a mixer, turntables, and rather large record collection, I take offense to you saying spinning records is not performing. it takes quite a bit of technical skill to beat-match two records, much less three, or to combine turntables with other equipment, such as cd decks or laptops. besides that, djs, like any other musicians, alter the mood of a performance by what they play, in this case records. they're not always playing their own music, but what is played brings an immediate reaction from the crowd. how is this different from any other performer?

anyways, they usually turn it up too loud and it makes me physically ill to listen to it. besides, every other day i have to hear the techno throbbing out of the dance room when i go to work.

oh well.
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hmm... if you're already biased, then I'm not sure why I bothered responding :?
 
A great deal of credit should be given to a good mixer. They have more talent than most of today's "artists". Back on track though, I think I'll just break down and buy Geomantik off Amazon as soon as I have money to burn. 20 for a used cd is a little much for me though. I wish there was a site devoted to electronic music cds, damn that'd be sweet.
 
[quote name='thatstoobad']if you don't mind, could one of you please explain what you find enjoyable about techno? i really don't enjoy it, and am very perplexed as to why other people do. so if you could maybe help me understand, that would be pretty neat.[/quote]

I like trance. Its hard to explain why. It just gets me in the zone. Like some one said, it is pure music. I never liked it much either, then a friend brought over some good techno. I love driving listing to it. Especially when I drive from wisconsin to connecticut.
 
Tanks for the post, but the reserve price is way too high for a vinyl. I don't care how rare it is, it's not worth over 100 USD. Why must she be so expensive? Cruel world.
 
Reality's Fringe said:
Tanks for the post, but the reserve price is way too high for a vinyl. I don't care how rare it is, it's not worth over 100 USD. Why must she be so expensive? Cruel world.
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that's how I feel about it as well, but the reality is there's a much smaller supply than could possibly meet the demand. this is something I wish I owned :?

we talk about rare video games being printed in thousands or tens of thousands of copies... rare records range from around 1000 copies down to 1 or 2 pressings.
 
Yeah. It makes me sick when I think about how many, say, 50 cent cds are pressed compared to the one Geomantik cd l(used) listed on Amazon or the 40 dollar Digital Orgasm EP I wanted. The price one has to pay to hear some really F*ing sweet music I guess.
 
Often times, when someone describes techno/trance music, they say something along the lines of getting in a sort of "zone." Someone care to explain?
 
Eh, I'm not an expert on it, but here's how I relate it:
Have you ever been driving down the street and you hear a song on the radio and you just start nodding your head or tapping your hands or singing along with the lyrics. Often times people don't like the song because the "lyrics" speak to them; they get into the singing/head bobbing because of the melody, beat, or pick-up in the song. This is what Electronic music aims to do. It's purpose is to elicit an immediate and often highly emotional response from the listener by focusing on that primitive reaction we have of getting into motion when we hear a beat. The "Zone" that people talk about is the epitome of that reaction; an almost uncontrollable immersion in a song. It sounds crazy, but you really have to experience it. Or they could just be doing Meth or something.
 
Reality's Fringe said:
Yeah. It makes me sick when I think about how many, say, 50 cent cds are pressed compared to the one Geomantik cd l(used) listed on Amazon or the 40 dollar Digital Orgasm EP I wanted. The price one has to pay to hear some really F*ing sweet music I guess.
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it's definitely ridiculous. music can quickly go from something you randomly enjoy to a full-blown hobby, just by what you want to hear.

if you're still looking for those cds, try eBay. I've seen a fair number of that Prana album there in the last few months, I could've bought it a few times for < $20. check every once in a while, you never know when someone will list it cheap ;)
 
I was brought into the electronic community, so that is how i came to like it. I went to my friend's(i know 15-20 promoters) raves for a few years, and every now and then i find a cheapass club to go to and listen to artists i like. As a kid, I was into hip hop... which is a form of electronic music if you get into turntableism. I enjoy alot of music, but for some reason Hip hop and electronica have been a bigger influence then rock+roll/pop.

Last night a DJ saved my life.
 
[quote name='Medium_Pimpin']
Last night a DJ saved my life.[/quote]

a better quote was never posted 8)

I grew up listening to rap/hip hop, seriously started searching for and listening to dance music when I was in college. gotta say Oakenfold's Tranceport did it for me, I was hooked on that album. electronic music now comprises most of my music collection, ranging from full-blown Tiesto and PvD trance to ambient em:t cds, I love almost all of it. haven't really gotten into "IDM" groups like Bola or Gescom, though I love the Boards of Canada.

the turntablism movement is great, Scratch pretty much threw a large portion of the genre out to the general public. I can't wait to hear what experimental turntablists are producing in a few years!
 
[quote name='waxHead'][quote name='Medium_Pimpin']
Last night a DJ saved my life.[/quote]

a better quote was never posted 8)[/quote]

Seeing a live DJ performance is like seeing a live rock band without stage tricks and pauses between songs, and having to hear about thier religion, beliefs ect. The music does all the talking, and it can be a just as moving experience.
Oh, and I suggest you try beatmatch and mix records before saying it takes no skill. It takes alot of practice and dedication and actual talent: none of which i have.
EDIT: It takes alot of money(more for specific genres, too), i have friends that are addicted to that Vinyl Crack


BTW I have a huge playlist of DJ shadow going right now. Great stuff!
 
[quote name='Medium_Pimpin']
EDIT: It takes alot of money(more for specific genres, too), i have friends that are addicted to that Vinyl Crack[/quote]

I'm slowly ridding myself of my vinyl addiction. it's a tough habit to break after four years!

BTW I have a huge playlist of DJ shadow going right now. Great stuff!
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just picked up his Stem single on Mo'wax the other day. that, Midnight In A Perfect World, Hardcore Hip-Hop, and Blood On The Motorway are my fav songs of his. and I can't possibly leave out What Does Your Soul Look Like, every part ;)
 
Stem/Long Stem is absolutely fabulous, as are Entroducing and Midnight in a perfect world.

You should check out/look for vinyl/cd/dl of an Album He and Dan'Automator'Nakamura did called "Bombay the hard way/pt 2."
They are mostly Indian beats with great samples, that neither of them created, but they introduce a little hip hop fusion and it sounds great. This may just be a cd going around on soulseek...
 
[quote name='waxHead']
it's definitely ridiculous. music can quickly go from something you randomly enjoy to a full-blown hobby, just by what you want to hear.

if you're still looking for those cds, try eBay. I've seen a fair number of that Prana album there in the last few months, I could've bought it a few times for < $20. check every once in a while, you never know when someone will list it cheap ;)[/quote]

I guess that's just what I'll have to do. I mean, in all honesty, 20 some bucks is a high price for a USED cd that's not even the American/UK release (the one on Amazon was acquired in Germany). Maybe I'm just focusing too hard on Prana, but it just seems to be my hangup at the Moment. If you haven't downloaded/ heard any of the tracks off "Geomantik" I suggest you do; groovy stuff. Maybe I'll look for something a little cheaper......if that exists in the Electronica world.
 
Reality's Fringe said:
[quote name='waxHead']
it's definitely ridiculous. music can quickly go from something you randomly enjoy to a full-blown hobby, just by what you want to hear.

if you're still looking for those cds, try eBay. I've seen a fair number of that Prana album there in the last few months, I could've bought it a few times for < $20. check every once in a while, you never know when someone will list it cheap ;)
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I guess that's just what I'll have to do. I mean, in all honesty, 20 some bucks is a high price for a USED cd that's not even the American/UK release (the one on Amazon was acquired in Germany). Maybe I'm just focusing too hard on Prana, but it just seems to be my hangup at the Moment. If you haven't downloaded/ heard any of the tracks off "Geomantik" I suggest you do; groovy stuff. Maybe I'll look for something a little cheaper......if that exists in the Electronica world.[/quote]

$20 for that cd really isn't that high. there weren't that many pressed, as Matsuri is (or was...? ) a small goa trance label based in the UK. as it's a relatively popular release due to the tracks on it, and was released quite a few years ago now, it's hard to find cheap. besides that, if you figure it costs about $8 on average to mail a cd from the UK to the USA, then the album would have to be pretty cheap to cost less than $20 when it was brand new in the US.

the larger percentage of electronica is produced overseas, so paying more for the music is almost a requirement if you want to enjoy it in the US.
 
I'm aware of its relative rarity, however my beef is with the fact that it's 20 and has wear on it. Now I know the description says that it's minor, but we know how that can turn out. Another problem is that the seller is a new launch and(I know from experience) that's kinda risky. If I had a friend in the UK, it woudn't be so bad. Like I said though, I'll probably pick it up off ebay when someone auctions it again. Thanks to the magic of Soulseek, Ican wait a little bit longer.
 
Reality's Fringe said:
I'm aware of its relative rarity, however my beef is with the fact that it's 20 and has wear on it. Now I know the description says that it's minor, but we know how that can turn out. Another problem is that the seller is a new launch and(I know from experience) that's kinda risky. If I had a friend in the UK, it woudn't be so bad. Like I said though, I'll probably pick it up off ebay when someone auctions it again. Thanks to the magic of Soulseek, Ican wait a little bit longer.
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that's the main reason I don't like buying used games or cds online. you really don't know what you're gonna get. I'm sure someone will eventually post a brand new copy on eBay, it's more a matter of patience than anything.

btw, if I find one cheap before then, I'll let you know ;)
 
If you like electronic...no one has AMON TOBIN beat...NO ONE...its not this $hitty stuff you could make at home on your comp. ITS REALLY GOOD...so many things are going on...some you dont notice till the 50th time youve heard it...and no im not exagerating...get Permutations or OUT FROM OUT WHERE...A good place to get LP's or CD's is musicstack.com
 
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