Nine Inch Nails drops MTV show over Bush backdrop
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[quote name='mykevermin']...as long as there are no lame stunts like that RATM asshole from some years back.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, god forbid that rock and roll ever again becomes about risk taking and rebellion against the man.
I like my rockers to be nothing more then cleverly disguised corporate entities, making millions for the RIAA while riding the currently popular "punk-pop" trends.
Yeah, god forbid that rock and roll ever again becomes about risk taking and rebellion against the man.
I like my rockers to be nothing more then cleverly disguised corporate entities, making millions for the RIAA while riding the currently popular "punk-pop" trends.
[quote name='camoor']Yeah, god forbid that rock and roll ever again becomes about risk taking and rebellion against the man.
I like my rockers to be nothing more then cleverly disguised corporate entities, making millions for the RIAA while riding the currently popular "punk-pop" trends.[/QUOTE]
lol. Rock n' Roll these days is all one big sellout, and its sad to see NIN go that direction. Especially in the past when they had resisted such things. Make a rock album about how much Bush sucks or promote it by selling your body, and get ready to roll in the dough or at least the accolades if your fans don't support you. Just ask any of the plentiful singers that sold out to the left wing or sold their body the past couple of years.
That's what Trent gets for hanging around Moby for too long. His new album is crap too, compared to his previous ones. Two or three really good songs at best, with two or three painfully bad ones too. Photek's straight mix of The Hand that Feeds is better than Trent's, and that's a first.
I like my rockers to be nothing more then cleverly disguised corporate entities, making millions for the RIAA while riding the currently popular "punk-pop" trends.[/QUOTE]
lol. Rock n' Roll these days is all one big sellout, and its sad to see NIN go that direction. Especially in the past when they had resisted such things. Make a rock album about how much Bush sucks or promote it by selling your body, and get ready to roll in the dough or at least the accolades if your fans don't support you. Just ask any of the plentiful singers that sold out to the left wing or sold their body the past couple of years.
That's what Trent gets for hanging around Moby for too long. His new album is crap too, compared to his previous ones. Two or three really good songs at best, with two or three painfully bad ones too. Photek's straight mix of The Hand that Feeds is better than Trent's, and that's a first.
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[quote name='Ruined']lol. Rock n' Roll these days is all one big sellout, and its sad to see NIN go that direction. Especially in the past when they had resisted such things. Make a rock album about how much Bush sucks or promote it by selling your body, and get ready to roll in the dough or at least the accolades if your fans don't support you. Just ask any of the plentiful singers that sold out to the left wing or sold their body the past couple of years.
That's what Trent gets for hanging around Moby for too long. His new album is crap too, compared to his previous ones. Two or three really good songs at best, with two or three painfully bad ones too. Photek's straight mix of The Hand that Feeds is better than Trent's, and that's a first.[/QUOTE]
So you're upset that rock is all "sold out," yet you're reinforcing that by getting upset that Trent has become political. Huh.
What is the association you're trying to make with political leanings and bad albums, by discussing how Moby's albums are bad?
Your points seem to be all over the place and don't seem to make much sense, so I'll ask you this: what in the world are you trying to say?
myke.
That's what Trent gets for hanging around Moby for too long. His new album is crap too, compared to his previous ones. Two or three really good songs at best, with two or three painfully bad ones too. Photek's straight mix of The Hand that Feeds is better than Trent's, and that's a first.[/QUOTE]
So you're upset that rock is all "sold out," yet you're reinforcing that by getting upset that Trent has become political. Huh.
What is the association you're trying to make with political leanings and bad albums, by discussing how Moby's albums are bad?
Your points seem to be all over the place and don't seem to make much sense, so I'll ask you this: what in the world are you trying to say?
myke.
[quote name='mykevermin']So you're upset that rock is all "sold out," yet you're reinforcing that by getting upset that Trent has become political. Huh.[/quote]
Yes I'm upset that rock is "sold out," and I'm reinforcing that by saying that being a left-wing rocker makes you very popular within the industry, just like being a left wing director or actor/actress does within the movie industry. NIN appears to have followed the "Bush sucks" sellout trend with Green Day, Bruce Springsteen, Eminem, etc. In the past Trent has steered clear of political issues and stood out from the crowd with his emotional lyrics and unique sounds. Now he is just a part of the large left wing rocker crowd with the same old song, probably hoping he gets the same recognition. Bottom line, I don't buy music or go to concerts to be preached to about my political descisions, especially by someone who has been an alcoholic and druggie for the past decade.
I figured most people would know that Moby (of moveon.org) is a extreme left wing artist, as in over the edge nutty. His most popular techno album in the 90s (that had I'm feeling so real on it) had quite a long essay on how meat was evil and vegetables were life giving, and all sorts of wacko stuff like that plus stuff about the environment, etc, and other super liberal points. I remember reading it at the time and wondering if he was nuts or not. Moby worked with Trent on this album, and its clear Moby's extreme left political leanings rubbed off on Trent. Although, Moby too is past his prime.
Pretty simply actually. Nine Inch Nails used to be an artist I could listen to that was unique and stood out from the crowd even if it meant being very different. Now he is very much the same, both in his message and the sound of his music. My cousin is right when he said most of With Teeth could have been a Foo Fighters album. Right Where It Belongs is the only song I can think of that is of past NIN-quality. And again, it's sad to see an artist I enjoy so much go down the tubes both in musical and lyrical quality.
Yes I'm upset that rock is "sold out," and I'm reinforcing that by saying that being a left-wing rocker makes you very popular within the industry, just like being a left wing director or actor/actress does within the movie industry. NIN appears to have followed the "Bush sucks" sellout trend with Green Day, Bruce Springsteen, Eminem, etc. In the past Trent has steered clear of political issues and stood out from the crowd with his emotional lyrics and unique sounds. Now he is just a part of the large left wing rocker crowd with the same old song, probably hoping he gets the same recognition. Bottom line, I don't buy music or go to concerts to be preached to about my political descisions, especially by someone who has been an alcoholic and druggie for the past decade.
I figured most people would know that Moby (of moveon.org) is a extreme left wing artist, as in over the edge nutty. His most popular techno album in the 90s (that had I'm feeling so real on it) had quite a long essay on how meat was evil and vegetables were life giving, and all sorts of wacko stuff like that plus stuff about the environment, etc, and other super liberal points. I remember reading it at the time and wondering if he was nuts or not. Moby worked with Trent on this album, and its clear Moby's extreme left political leanings rubbed off on Trent. Although, Moby too is past his prime.
Pretty simply actually. Nine Inch Nails used to be an artist I could listen to that was unique and stood out from the crowd even if it meant being very different. Now he is very much the same, both in his message and the sound of his music. My cousin is right when he said most of With Teeth could have been a Foo Fighters album. Right Where It Belongs is the only song I can think of that is of past NIN-quality. And again, it's sad to see an artist I enjoy so much go down the tubes both in musical and lyrical quality.
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[quote name='Ruined']Yes I'm upset that rock is "sold out," and I'm reinforcing that by saying that being a left-wing rocker makes you very popular within the industry, just like being a left wing director or actor/actress does within the movie industry. NIN appears to have followed the "Bush sucks" sellout trend with Green Day, Bruce Springsteen, Eminem, etc. In the past Trent has steered clear of political issues and stood out from the crowd with his emotional lyrics and unique sounds. Now he is just a part of the large left wing rocker crowd with the same old song, probably hoping he gets the same recognition. Bottom line, I don't buy music or go to concerts to be preached to about my political descisions, especially by someone who has been an alcoholic and druggie for the past decade.[/quote]
Go here: http://www.billboard.com/bb/charts/bb200.jsp
I see Audioslave and System of a Down in the top 20, and I'll give you those two. You know who else I see? Toby "We'll put a boot in yer ass, it's the American Way" Keith. Sure, he isn't rock, but if you consider the basic fact that rock music (1960's prefab bands notwithstanding) was almost always antiestablishment and rebellious, you certainly wouldn't expect a rock song about the Patriot Act's sheer awesomeness, would you?
He's a christian too, FWIW. Your paragraph here is filled with far too many opinions and unprovable accusations to comment on. Sure, Moby had that track on Everything is Wrong; just *how* popular was Moby in those days? He was the
ing King when it came to the rave scene, which he dropped out of because he was sick of people doing drugs, ing everything in sight, and in general abusing their bodies and abusing other people. That 'taint wacko, IMO, and his stance on vegetarianism is consistent with that.
So far, the only non-opinion you've made is that Moby said meat was bad, and vegetables are good. Come back with some of his "super liberal facts." If you want to tell me how it is, I recommend that you don't bring opinions, and you don't bring generalizations.
I have not heard his album, primarily because I don't like NIN. You're making a correlation that musical and lyrical quality go hand-in-hand, as if one causes the other; that makes no logical sense whatsoever.
Maybe I can find my Skrewdriver CDs if you want right-wing rock.
myke.
Go here: http://www.billboard.com/bb/charts/bb200.jsp
I see Audioslave and System of a Down in the top 20, and I'll give you those two. You know who else I see? Toby "We'll put a boot in yer ass, it's the American Way" Keith. Sure, he isn't rock, but if you consider the basic fact that rock music (1960's prefab bands notwithstanding) was almost always antiestablishment and rebellious, you certainly wouldn't expect a rock song about the Patriot Act's sheer awesomeness, would you?
He's a christian too, FWIW. Your paragraph here is filled with far too many opinions and unprovable accusations to comment on. Sure, Moby had that track on Everything is Wrong; just *how* popular was Moby in those days? He was the
ing King when it came to the rave scene, which he dropped out of because he was sick of people doing drugs, ing everything in sight, and in general abusing their bodies and abusing other people. That 'taint wacko, IMO, and his stance on vegetarianism is consistent with that.So far, the only non-opinion you've made is that Moby said meat was bad, and vegetables are good. Come back with some of his "super liberal facts." If you want to tell me how it is, I recommend that you don't bring opinions, and you don't bring generalizations.
I have not heard his album, primarily because I don't like NIN. You're making a correlation that musical and lyrical quality go hand-in-hand, as if one causes the other; that makes no logical sense whatsoever.
Maybe I can find my Skrewdriver CDs if you want right-wing rock.
myke.
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[quote name='Ruined']His most popular techno album in the 90s (that had I'm feeling so real on it) had quite a long essay on how meat was evil and vegetables were life giving, and all sorts of wacko stuff like that plus stuff about the environment, etc, and other super liberal points.[/QUOTE]
Wait a minute - Moby is a vegetarian AND he writes about protecting the enviornment.
Wow I had no idea he was so radical.
Wait a minute - Moby is a vegetarian AND he writes about protecting the enviornment.
Wow I had no idea he was so radical.
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