Nintendo always looks out for the common man.

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I love how the Wii Mario Kart w/ wheel release is listed as $49.99. If the same game was released on Xbox 360 or PS3 it would automatically be $59.99 and add the wheel I can see it as $79.99 all day. Thanks Nintendo for not breaking my bank when other sure would.
 
Sort of like how the Wiimote + nunchuk combo is $60? Like how Nintendo games are $5 and SNES games are $8?

Nintendo wants your money the same way Sony and Microsoft do.
 
The price of Nintendo games are $50, but it takes forever for them to come down in price (third party Wii games are different, but who buys a Nintendo console for those?). Xbox 360 and PS3 games on the other hand drop in price rather quickly and good deals can be found on these games.
 
[quote name='ananag112']The price of Nintendo games are $50, but it takes forever for them to come down in price (third party Wii games are different, but who buys a Nintendo console for those?). Xbox 360 and PS3 games on the other hand drop in price rather quickly and good deals can be found on these games.[/QUOTE]

That's so damn true, you'll never see comparable prices between Twilight Princess and Untold Legends.
 
From the impressions I've been reading, Mario Kart Wii sounds like it's being watered down and being tailored for casuals. And the wheel looks like it serves zero purpose... I'd rather use a controller.
 
[quote name='sandrokstar']That's so damn true, you'll never see comparable prices between Twilight Princess and Untold Legends.[/quote]



That's not a fair comparison. How about comparing Nintendo's premium first party title to the other systems.

Best comparison would be this in my opinion:

Twilight Princess, Gears of War and Resistance all came out at the same time.

Today they are all priced at 49.99, 59.99, and 59.99 respectively.


But don't get me wrong all 3 companies are after your money, I just think Nintendo's prices are more friendly.

3rd party titles on the Wii, do tend to drop in price as fast as games on other systems, games such as Elebits, which is hard to find brand new, but you can get a used copy for under $20.

Not to mention the low price of budget titles like Zack and Wiki and RE4 for $30 bucks.

Whereas Sony's glorified demo for Gran Turismo sells for 39.99
 
nobody "looks out for the common man," all the companies do what they feel will be most economically fruitful in the long run.

to OP...the Wii at 250 bucks? nintendo's the only company who was making profits on systems for awhile - both sony and microsoft were losing money on systems (i don't know if that's still the case, though it could very well be). anyway, you should probably think things through before you go ahead and say stuff like that.
 
[quote name='Vinny']From the impressions I've been reading, Mario Kart Wii sounds like it's being watered down and being tailored for casuals. And the wheel looks like it serves zero purpose... I'd rather use a controller.[/quote]

i disagree. if players use the wheel, you are able to pull off special moves that people who use a gc controller won't be able to. i think that the wheel caters to the more hardcore users that can pull of crazy moves.

i don't know how they watered it down. its pretty much hit button A to go and use the joystick to turn. dont' see how its different from other mario karts
 
[quote name='Justin5000']I love how the Wii Mario Kart w/ wheel release is listed as $49.99. If the same game was released on Xbox 360 or PS3 it would automatically be $59.99 and add the wheel I can see it as $79.99 all day.[/quote]

Yeah. $ony and M$ would totally do that.

Except the only release similar (game with special, exclusive to that game controller) to that is Scene-It. Which Microsoft released for $60 with the four big button controllers. The same price as every other release.

Get over yourself. No company looks out for the common man.
 
[quote name='decrot']i disagree. if players use the wheel, you are able to pull off special moves that people who use a gc controller won't be able to. i think that the wheel caters to the more hardcore users that can pull of crazy moves.[/QUOTE]
Thats incorrect. The tricks are done using the d-pad on the Cube/Classic controller. Waggling with the nunchuk combo does the same. The only thing playing Wiimote only does is let you not drift/mini-boost as well as everyone else.
 
I agree w/ Decrot. The wheel is a fun accessory for the game and if it's not costing any more than what it would cost to buy the game anyway, then why not. That is more or less what I intended to conveigh when starting this thread. They could charge more due to the wheel being sold with it but don't.
 
[quote name='Justin5000']They could charge more due to the wheel being sold with it but don't.[/QUOTE]
Or you could say that they could sell it without the wheel and charge less. This perspective better fits those of us who aren't in the market for one-off peripherals.
 
I think it's cool that the wheel is included with Mario Kart. If nothing else, it'll be fun to try out before moving on to a different control scheme. But I think a lot of people would be pissed if they had charged extra for the game since the wheel isn't necessary or even wanted by many people.

As much as people complain about Nintendo games never dropping in price, I've seen a lot of deals for Wii/DS games that are just as good. The B2G1 sales for the DS were everywhere, buying 2 at $30 and getting one free is about as good as having the games drop to $20. And there's been a fair number of Wii deals (the buy Smash Bros get a select game half off, buy 2 games get $20 off) so it's not like you're stuck paying full price as long as you look a little for a deal.
 
[quote name='ananag112']The price of Nintendo games are $50[/QUOTE]
Endless Ocean goes for $30. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree is also budget-priced, but only in Europe. And I'm pretty sure a number of first-party Wii games have an MSRP of $40.

Yeah, Nintendo wants to make money -- who doesn't? -- but I like their overall approach to affordable gaming, especially if it leads to good stuff like Resident Evil 4, Williams Pinball Hall of Fame, and We Ski going for a mere $30.

--R.J.
 
[quote name='ItsTrueItsTrue92']Like how Nintendo games are $5 and SNES games are $8?[/QUOTE]

How is that unfair pricing, exactly? Yes, it could be cheaper for some of the more common titles (hello, Super Mario Brothers), but it's a steal for anything that's hard to find like Harvest Moon.

[quote name='Vinny']From the impressions I've been reading, Mario Kart Wii sounds like it's being watered down and being tailored for casuals. And the wheel looks like it serves zero purpose... I'd rather use a controller.[/QUOTE]

..."Casuals?" Are you fucking kidding me?

Mario Kart has never been aimed at "hardcore gamers," and the only feature missing I've seen people bitch about is snaking...which wasn't intended to be a feature in the first place, or at least not in the form it was used, where you absolutely had to use it to win races online.



[quote name='rjung']Endless Ocean goes for $30. Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree is also budget-priced, but only in Europe. And I'm pretty sure a number of first-party Wii games have an MSRP of $40.

Yeah, Nintendo wants to make money -- who doesn't? -- but I like their overall approach to affordable gaming, especially if it leads to good stuff like Resident Evil 4, Williams Pinball Hall of Fame, and We Ski going for a mere $30.

--R.J.[/QUOTE]

Nintendo isn't responsible for any of the $30 games you mentioned there.

On the other hand, Nintendo is responsible for the Player's Choice concept, and it's bound to show up for the Wii and DS sooner or later. Probably later, since they don't need it to move games right now, but it's coming eventually.
 
[quote name='Gothic Walrus']
Nintendo isn't responsible for any of the $30 games you mentioned there.
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They published Endless Ocean as far as I know. Not the same as developing it, but they pushed advertising for it through their normal channels, so they are somewhat responsible.

Also, thank you for the comment about Mario Kart. "It's for the casuals." It's a racing game with mascot characters throwing bananas at each other, people. It stars monkeys on motor bikes. How is that not casual?

There's a lot of other silly things being said in this thread, but nothing that hasn't been said or debated many times before.
 
IMO, last gen games shouldn't retail at $50 MRSP anyway.

Also, Nintendo doesn't look out for anyone at all. Mario Kart DD! and SSBM are both still pretty expensive.
 
Nintendo is really looking out for the common man because they release a plastic shell that cost them 5 cents to make in a factory in China.

REALLLLLLY?

Think again my friend.
 
First of all Zack and Wiki was $39.99 at launch.


If nintendo really cares they would reprint tetris ds and wavebirds and not have the common man pays double on ebay
 
Feels like a lot of excess hate in this thread. I think the wii wheel is a decent idea (much better than the worthless wii zapper) it extends the B button and adds a weight in the center for steering. It is basically a free pack-in, face it Mario Kart Wii was going to be $50 no matter what wii wheel or not. I am not sure if it is commendable on Nintendo's part but it beats over priced vapid special editions, which seems to be the current trend in most next-gen systems. Plus you can probably rope in some unsuspecting family members or friends to the dark side with its innocuous looks. From all accounts online it makes the game feel like a more active experience and if you don't like that you have the choice of three other control schemes. Overall I am looking forward to trying it out. Now as to whether this deserved a thread, probably not. But hey I got duped by an April fool's joke so I can't exactly throw stones. :)
 
Nin¥endo wants your moneys just as badly as any other multi national corporation and they're not afraid to use gimmicks to get it.
 
Alright, this thread has the potential (hah) to turn into a flame-fest and doesn't really serve any purpose. The wheel is a nice add-on that, on the flip side, doesn't add much to the experience:

Pros:
1 - It is free, as we all know the game would be $49.99 anyway - so as such it is a nice thing for Nintendo to include
2 - Some people might enjoy using it - particularly kids

Cons:
1 - Will gather dust for most people (CAGs in particular)
2 - Waste of resources (and probably made of cheap toxic plastic from China ;))
3 - Might limit initial shipments of the game (see below)

But all in all there's very little downside since it isn't something they needed to include to get people to buy Mario Kart. So in that sense I don't buy the gimmick angle - MK would sell regardless. They are losing a bit of profit in fact, not so much on the wheel itself (which I'm sure is dirt cheap to produce) but certainly on shipping costs (less games per pound ;)) and potential sales. Blockbuster, for one, pulled their preorder offer because Nintendo couldn't supply them with enough copies due, apparently, to wheel production issues.

Anyway, this discussion can be carried on here (minus the flamebait please):

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148596
 
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