This thread really might not want to be troll feed but it really asks for it .. hard..
But I'll toss a few pellets myself.. here goes
Nintendo is not going to pull a Sega, It's always easy and it actually makes perfect sense at the moment to look at what has happened and say its the coming of the end from a few mistakes. The way you people are talking is effectively meaningless, I'm sure critics talked the same way when the N64 didn't use CD's and the Virtual Boy just released before it (that N64 was delayed) was a total flop. Don't bother telling me well it was a shit system, I'm sure you would have thought it was cool at the time like 3d on the 3ds is now. But see, the 3ds is not just about 3d, you can turn it off, its not betting the farm on that, Nintendo plays their cards pretty well in that regard they don't act like Microsoft and Sony generally have, by just pumping out the best tech they see as an affordable console (or worth the buzz words they bring "HD" etc). At least in terms of a track record, they made the e-reader and that didn't do that well, and they try different things like connectivity of the gamecube to gba. While some things don't take off it doesn't mean they are on the wrong path!
Take a step back for a moment when you speak of the quality of games available, your personal taste in games makes you bias against your own judgment does it not? When you see all the games on Wii and nothing actually interests you, you personally feel that its not doing well despite the sales, right? Now, I do share feelings of dumbing down a franchise like Zelda but it might be misplaced feelings. Some people hated Navi in Ocarina of Time because she wouldn't shut up always getting in your way telling you about something going on in the game she couldn't hold back and let you ask for it.
Nintendo has goals and it would seem they are pretty obvious if we are talking about selling games to everyone, it just makes business sense. And it works. The dumbing down is their balancing act of getting it to work for all ages while at the same time bringing out the game which happens to really be a hardcore title. This can be hard with some games but they have made a good solution with the idea of "super guides" for their games to keep us gamers happy while letting everyone able to play who suck at games.
Lets see what did I forget to mention... oh yes! Games, every generation is different than the last, and it depends on your tastes which will decide if a generation was good for a particular console. I think being a bit subjective and looking at the real number of 3rd party games on the Wii its really no different than NES gen in some ways. There's a ton of games and a nice chunk of great games no one can deny is worth playing.
I really think the Wii is comparative to the NES gen (everyone else always looks at it like that) and because of that fact, the next system will do almost if not just as well when it brings HD to Nintendo titles when people actually care and can enjoy it (so many people played xbox and ps3 on crt's still, so what it actually means is they were interested in the GAMES not the
in graphics).
The system after the Wii will be the 2nd coming of the gold years in my opinion (those of you who consider the super nintendo the best of the best of overall great games almost all across the board). Nintendo will probably get these things right based on what they know they need to do better and what they will bring:
-More robust and overall better functionality in online play to their first real entry into it on the Wii.
-It will be more powerful than Wii, if history is any indication it will be at least as powerful as 2 wii's and a half if not more.
-It will be at least 720p output its likely they would make that the minimal and allow 1080p similar to how ps3 and xbox360 have it settled.
-It will continue the idea of motion having a place in the controls of gaming, we won't know how it will evolve but it will not be leaving, and instead become a staple inclusion like the rumble.
-The quality control will be stepped up in a way that to prevent some 3rd party dev's from shitting all over Nintendo's market and bring down the overall gaming selection.
-Something new will come along, what is it? I don't think it will be 3d when thats the 3ds selling point, for a console that might not even catch on for the issue of needing to replace our new hdtv's... its a bit too soon, people like to keep tv's for ALOT longer. But who knows.
So that's all I'm gonna bother saying, enjoy it or don't. I own all consoles. This gen has been so full of fps's it makes me want to puke, for other people they are so happy they could piss their pants and still happily play every release of call of duty or something.
But I'll toss a few pellets myself.. here goes
Nintendo is not going to pull a Sega, It's always easy and it actually makes perfect sense at the moment to look at what has happened and say its the coming of the end from a few mistakes. The way you people are talking is effectively meaningless, I'm sure critics talked the same way when the N64 didn't use CD's and the Virtual Boy just released before it (that N64 was delayed) was a total flop. Don't bother telling me well it was a shit system, I'm sure you would have thought it was cool at the time like 3d on the 3ds is now. But see, the 3ds is not just about 3d, you can turn it off, its not betting the farm on that, Nintendo plays their cards pretty well in that regard they don't act like Microsoft and Sony generally have, by just pumping out the best tech they see as an affordable console (or worth the buzz words they bring "HD" etc). At least in terms of a track record, they made the e-reader and that didn't do that well, and they try different things like connectivity of the gamecube to gba. While some things don't take off it doesn't mean they are on the wrong path!
Take a step back for a moment when you speak of the quality of games available, your personal taste in games makes you bias against your own judgment does it not? When you see all the games on Wii and nothing actually interests you, you personally feel that its not doing well despite the sales, right? Now, I do share feelings of dumbing down a franchise like Zelda but it might be misplaced feelings. Some people hated Navi in Ocarina of Time because she wouldn't shut up always getting in your way telling you about something going on in the game she couldn't hold back and let you ask for it.
Nintendo has goals and it would seem they are pretty obvious if we are talking about selling games to everyone, it just makes business sense. And it works. The dumbing down is their balancing act of getting it to work for all ages while at the same time bringing out the game which happens to really be a hardcore title. This can be hard with some games but they have made a good solution with the idea of "super guides" for their games to keep us gamers happy while letting everyone able to play who suck at games.
Lets see what did I forget to mention... oh yes! Games, every generation is different than the last, and it depends on your tastes which will decide if a generation was good for a particular console. I think being a bit subjective and looking at the real number of 3rd party games on the Wii its really no different than NES gen in some ways. There's a ton of games and a nice chunk of great games no one can deny is worth playing.
I really think the Wii is comparative to the NES gen (everyone else always looks at it like that) and because of that fact, the next system will do almost if not just as well when it brings HD to Nintendo titles when people actually care and can enjoy it (so many people played xbox and ps3 on crt's still, so what it actually means is they were interested in the GAMES not the
in graphics).The system after the Wii will be the 2nd coming of the gold years in my opinion (those of you who consider the super nintendo the best of the best of overall great games almost all across the board). Nintendo will probably get these things right based on what they know they need to do better and what they will bring:
-More robust and overall better functionality in online play to their first real entry into it on the Wii.
-It will be more powerful than Wii, if history is any indication it will be at least as powerful as 2 wii's and a half if not more.
-It will be at least 720p output its likely they would make that the minimal and allow 1080p similar to how ps3 and xbox360 have it settled.
-It will continue the idea of motion having a place in the controls of gaming, we won't know how it will evolve but it will not be leaving, and instead become a staple inclusion like the rumble.
-The quality control will be stepped up in a way that to prevent some 3rd party dev's from shitting all over Nintendo's market and bring down the overall gaming selection.
-Something new will come along, what is it? I don't think it will be 3d when thats the 3ds selling point, for a console that might not even catch on for the issue of needing to replace our new hdtv's... its a bit too soon, people like to keep tv's for ALOT longer. But who knows.
So that's all I'm gonna bother saying, enjoy it or don't. I own all consoles. This gen has been so full of fps's it makes me want to puke, for other people they are so happy they could piss their pants and still happily play every release of call of duty or something.
D
