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40 Christians Arrested in Saudi Arabia for Religious Activity By Saudi Religious Police: 'For Trying to Spread the Poison and their Beliefs'
On April 23, 2005, Saudi newspapers reported that 40 Pakistanis were arrested by the Saudi religious police in a Riyadh apartment for conducting Christian religious activity. The following are excerpts from the reports:

The Saudi daily Al-Jazirah reported that 40 men, women, and children with Pakistani citizenship were arrested on April 21, 2005 after performing Christian religious rites in an apartment in the Thaharat Al-Badi'a neighborhood in western Riyadh. The arrest was part of a sweeping police operation by the Riyadh District Police, at the order of Riyadh Governor Prince Salman bin Abd Al-'Aziz.

The paper reported that the operation came after Saudi religious police – known as the Authority for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice [1] – followed and collected information on the activity of the 40, who listened to a proselytizing lecture by a Pakistani minister.

The paper also noted that during the police operation, which lasted nearly 10 hours, a cross and a large number of proselytizing books and cassettes were found [in the apartment]. The detainees themselves stated that they had come to listen to lectures by the minister. One of the detainees was a Muslim Pakistani, who acknowledged that he had been influenced by the Christian ideology. [2]

The Saudi daily Al-Riyadh said that the detainees had set up a church in the apartment, equipped with crosses, pictures, and statues. Likewise, it was said that during their religious activity, one of them was found praying, as the others present repeated their words, and one of the women arrested was listing the people's confessions and distributing writs of absolution. The Al-Riyadh report included a photo of the detainees and of a large cross and the group which was arrested.

A Saudi religious police source explained the reason for the arrest: "These people tried to spread the poison and their beliefs to others, by means of distributing pamphlets and [missionary] publications." He said that all the detainees "had been transferred to the relevant bodies for investigation." [3]

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on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 05:38 PM


Saudi Arabia's muttawa (Islamic religious police) arrested 40 Pakistani Christians while they met privately for worship in Riyadh the morning of Friday, April 22. The gathering was a joint weekly Catholic-Protestant prayer service. Several carloads of muttawa members reportedly surrounded the house, halted the sermon and proceeded to beat some of the worshipers, overturning the furniture and breaking Christian symbols as they searched the house. All men, women and children present were detained at the Dera police station and later released. "We are very upset over this news," a Pakistan church leader said. "Why do Saudi Muslims have the right all over the world to build mosques and worship in them when they refuse to designate places of worship for Christians who are guest workers in Saudi Arabia?" Police authorities also confiscated the Christians' identification cards, Bibles, hymnals, tapes and other Christian materials in the Urdu language. The investigating police officer, Lt. Col. Saad Nawafal al-Rashid, said the raid was part of a wide-ranging "security campaign" that recently uncovered a prostitution ring, two home-brew alcohol factories and a variety of drug caches. The Pakistan embassy downplayed the incident, insisting that only 20 or 25 Christians were arrested, none of them children, before being released.


Ah yes, I know all of you anti-Christian bigots here will love this. Your wonderful religion of peace at work. I'm just curious, where are the Christian riots now that crosses and Bibles have been defaced, damaged and destroyed? Where should we expect 16 dead Christians and 100 wounded Christians? Rome? New York? Maybe somehwere in North Carolina? Just where oh where will these Christian rioters choose to gather?

Where is Newsweek's investigation of this? There isn't one? Oh man, color me shocked!
 
Removed racist comments? I wonder what he said. Probably something inflammatory.

I'm glad you found that article. It's good that you have something to make yourself feel superior.
 
PAD, you forget a very key point.

According to all the posters here on CAG, christians deserve any punishment they get. After all, people who have no relation to me started the Crusades! Therefore, it's my fault.

It's a well documented fact that leaders can kill their own people. If they start killing others, then it's completely wrong. So, let's forget the fact that people are still being boiled to death in Syria. A religion is still being persecuted just for having an audience. It goes on and on. Intollerant tollerators = Democrats.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']Derwood43, maybe you didn't notice, but PAD added an extremely racist remark to his post.[/QUOTE]

I guess I don't see it. Am I missing something?
 
[quote name='Derwood43']I guess I don't see it. Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]

I think Shrike4242 deleted the racist parts of PAD's posts.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Racist comments aren't allowed here. The relavent pieces have been removed from your OP.
[/QUOTE]

I'd say he did.
 
[quote name='Derwood43']PAD, you forget a very key point.

According to all the posters here on CAG, christians deserve any punishment they get. After all, people who have no relation to me started the Crusades! Therefore, it's my fault.

It's a well documented fact that leaders can kill their own people. If they start killing others, then it's completely wrong. So, let's forget the fact that people are still being boiled to death in Syria. A religion is still being persecuted just for having an audience. It goes on and on. Intollerant tollerators = Democrats.[/QUOTE]

A sizable segment of radical christians are denying women in need a right to make the choices that are best for their well-being.

Radical christians are pushing to replace science with their holy texts in the classroom.

Radical christians are advocating unrealistic "abstinence only" sex education programs, and burying their heads in the sand about the dangers of overpopulation and AIDS that could be partially solved by embracing birth control.

etc etc

Yes, it's always illuminating to bring up all the past atrocities that have been committed by christians. However it's the atrocities that occur to this day that people should care most about.

It's really hard to forgive the willful ignorance of fundamentalist christians in a country where there is a high literacy rate, most of the people are relatively wel-off and the biggest health problem is putting down that supersized package of chicken nuggets.
 
[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']:applause: I wish those kind of people could be arrested here. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Can't we get them on a conspiracy to litter rap since that's where I always see them.
 
[quote name='camoor']A sizable segment of radical christians are denying women in need a right to make the choices that are best for their well-being.

Radical christians are pushing to replace science with their holy texts in the classroom.

Radical christians are advocating unrealistic "abstinence only" sex education programs, and burying their heads in the sand about the dangers of overpopulation and AIDS that could be partially solved by embracing birth control.

etc etc

Yes, it's always illuminating to bring up all the past atrocities that have been committed by christians. However it's the atrocities that occur to this day that people should care most about.

It's really hard to forgive the willful ignorance of fundamentalist christians in a country where there is a high literacy rate, most of the people are relatively wel-off and the biggest health problem is putting down that supersized package of chicken nuggets.[/QUOTE]


Ok then. By your definition, what happened to the 40 people is an atrocity. Their liberties to excercise their faith was impeded upon. You're saying that the Muslims should bend their faith to tollerate the Christians, correct? NO? Really? Then why in the world should Christians have to bend their faith here because people don't agree with it? We should be granted the same liberties as everyone else. If you don't have to believe what we believe, it is unjust to expect us to believe what you believe.
 
[quote name='Derwood43']Ok then. By your definition, what happened to the 40 people is an atrocity. Their liberties to excercise their faith was impeded upon. You're saying that the Muslims should bend their faith to tollerate the Christians, correct? NO? Really? Then why in the world should Christians have to bend their faith here because people don't agree with it? We should be granted the same liberties as everyone else. If you don't have to believe what we believe, it is unjust to expect us to believe what you believe.[/QUOTE]

It was an atrocity, of course.

And of course, the Muslim Taliban was way worse in granting freedoms then the American government is.

I don't have a problem with religion, but rather Fundamentalism. Many muslims and christians realize that they can have a thought independent of their respective churches, it's the members that blindly "follow the party line" that I disagree with.
 
[quote name='camoor']It was an atrocity, of course.

And of course, the Muslim Taliban was way worse in granting freedoms then the American government is.

I don't have a problem with religion, but rather Fundamentalism. Many muslims and christians realize that they can have a thought independent of their respective churches, it's the members that blindly "follow the party line" that I disagree with.[/QUOTE]


That's all you had to say in the beginning.


Also, wildly off topic, my younger sister is in the hospital about to have her first baby. I'll try to post back later when I have some info. (If anyone really cares)
 
[quote name='Tiphireth']I'd say he did.[/QUOTE]

His comments were very much out of line, and removed from the OP and other quotes of the OP.
 
[quote name='Derwood43']Also, wildly off topic, my younger sister is in the hospital about to have her first baby. I'll try to post back later when I have some info. (If anyone really cares)[/QUOTE]

Will she be a baby Predator? :D :shock:
 
[quote name='camoor']Will she be a baby Predator? :D :shock:[/QUOTE]

I think you mean baby Jedi :D the child must be strong in the force if related to Plo-Koon...
 
[quote name='shrike4242']His comments were very much out of line, and removed from the OP and other quotes of the OP.[/QUOTE]

Sorry Shrike, I was late to the conversation and didn't get to read the evidence. Could you or someone PM me ?

I've gotten a little tired of the racist name calling and have occasionally come to PAD's defense never having read an actual racist comment by PAD himself. If there was a truly inflamitory comment, I'd lke to know what it was so that I can be knowledgable in my position.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Sorry Shrike, I was late to the conversation and didn't get to read the evidence. Could you or someone PM me ?

I've gotten a little tired of the racist name calling and have occasionally come to PAD's defense never having read an actual racist comment by PAD himself. If there was a truly inflamitory comment, I'd lke to know what it was so that I can be knowledgable in my position.[/QUOTE]

Or you could just drop it, accept that PAD made an inflamatory racist comment, and move on.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']Or you could just drop it, accept that PAD made an inflamatory racist comment, and move on.[/QUOTE]

Or maybe he would like to be better informed and wants to see for himself and is going about the right way to try to get that information.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']Or you could just drop it, accept that PAD made an inflamatory racist comment, and move on.[/QUOTE]

Sorry Quack, I really have a hard time accepting anything you post as a FACT.
 
[quote name='KingNES']Or maybe he would like to be better informed and wants to see for himself and is going about the right way to try to get that information.[/QUOTE]

bmulligan voted for Bush. 'Nuff said.
 
[quote name='KingNES']Okay.... That would mean???????[/QUOTE]

I think he means he likes wallowing in ignorance.

Ya know, I liked the old days, where quack was the nutcase ranting about how they're all out to get us, and camoor was just the far left guy, but still rational. It seems like they switched places.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I think he means he likes wallowing in ignorance.

Ya know, I liked the old days, where quack was the nutcase ranting about how they're all out to get us, and camoor was just the far left guy, but still rational. It seems like they switched places.[/QUOTE]

You know Alonzo, I don't know what I said to get under your skin but your passive-agressive sniping at me has become tiresome. You're turning into the leftist bmulligan of this board, and it's a position that was best left unfilled.
 
[quote name='camoor']You know Alonzo, I don't know what I said to get under your skin but your passive-agressive sniping at me has become tiresome. You're turning into the leftist bmulligan of this board, and it's a position that was best left unfilled.[/QUOTE]

It really is passive aggressive in intent though, it's not just me trying to be sneaky or nice about it. I like you and generally your opinions, it's just that you seem to have lost that rational part of your arguments that you used to have. This is why I don't get along with political groups, I tend to attack my own side too much. Quack used to pop in, make a "_ is evil, _ is out to get us" comment and leave, but there was nothing of value behind it. With you it's like you got a good idea, but you just fuckin blew it. Lately it's like something snapped in you and you've just gone off the deep end. It's nothing personal or anything you did to me.

I don't really mean anything more than I say by it, but either way I've already said what I think so I'll stop.
 
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