Odd situation with Lolwaut

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[quote name='lolwaut']well, i know this isnt your point but i feel i should mention anyway that i know rigo went to his local post office to ship this and did not go through USPS.com. i had to explain to him how to ship the game, where to get the bubble envelopes, etc. since it has his first trade.

as for waiting until i got back home to check gripshift, rigo created this thread in January. i didn't get back home until feb. 21st (i left on jan. 23rd, coincidently the same day rigo shipped gripshift). i felt that it would be unfair to make rigo wait for his game for that long... i know i probably would have been upset if i had to wait that long, so i just told her to go ahead and ship it.[/quote]If he went to the post office, then he likely agreed to the "Would you like to ship that Priority Mail?" line that the USPS reps use all the time when you have something to ship there that needs postage. I'm sure that's why he shipped it out priority mail rather than first class, since if it was just a game in a bubble mailer or the like, it would have certainly fit in the first class weight restrictions.

In that case, I could see shipping it out before getting home, though that's a case of bad timing on this trade, with it happening right before you went out of town.

[quote name='The Mana Knight']It appears that Rigo received GTAIV 360 no later than 2/4/09 based on this post:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5465784&postcount=38

Since I know lolwaut, the day he sent me a PSN message with his return was on 2/21/09. So in reality, it would have been over two weeks until lolwaut could have received the game. I understand lolwaut probably figured Rigo was telling the truth that the game was mint and as long as it was received, he'd be all right (when it doesn't appear to be mint). At the same time, if lolwaut never sent the game, he probably would have been TTO and considered to be scamming Rigo when he was out of town and could not get in contact with Rigo telling him the situation (and most would have thought lolwaut did something due to being gone for a while). That's why this is a tough situation.

I still wonder why he didn't talk with a mod with trying to see if there was another way to get in touch with you in while you were out of town. Was it a safe assumption you had no access to email while you were gone?

EDIT: I can confirm the 2/21 date too, based on the PSN message I got. I definitely know lolwaut was gone since he never got on AIM since around 1/23 or something and that was the last day he logged into PSN, before the emergency.

EDIT 2: I believe the last day I talked to lolwaut (and the last time he was on AIM) before family emergency was (Session Close (lolwaut): Fri Jan 23 01:18:54 2009) I looked through IM logs. So it is around 1 month.[/quote]Good info to dig up. Odd that rico didn't update the thread after the game arrived, so we'd know that it arrived without issue, and there was no concern with not getting the game.

His initial post is a bit premature, no question, if he shipped on the 23rd, Gripshift arrived on the 26th and he hadn't heard anything from you in a week's time.
 
People really need to consider where they are shipping to, how they are shipping, the time of year, etc. All sorts of factors go into determining the actual time it takes to ship something. It's good to be cautious, I know we're all a little scared of being scammed but a week is perfectly acceptable time in my opinion to send something.

I for one just sent a Hori Fighting Stick EX2 to a guy in California, mind you I live in Florida. I spent $14 to ship it and I got an estimated 5-7 days ETA.

Just some food for thought...
 
It seems to me that these scams are getting a bit repetitive on the boards as of late, and i know its prolly sucks for the buyer. But that is why i always ask for a really good Picture of the product before i buy, if they refuse move on.
 
rigo has contacted me saying that he was going to buy guitar hero 3 at the gamestop sale this weekend for me... we will see if he comes through. i'm not sure if he is aware of the activity in this thread.
 
=\ Pretty lame that he initially guaranteed you something that was worth $30-40 on eBay, and now he is buying a sale item to replace that...

To be honest, I'd just be asking for $35 PP and move on.
 
[quote name='Placebo']=\ Pretty lame that he initially guaranteed you something that was worth $30-40 on eBay, and now he is buying a sale item to replace that...

To be honest, I'd just be asking for $35 PP and move on.[/quote]

yeah, i know. however, i dont think he knew that it was anything special at the time he agreed to the trade. i know that it is his fault for not looking it up, but i don't want to take advantage of the situation. i got that copy of GTA for pretty cheap, so as long as he i get something that is in the same ballpark as what i paid the GTA, i will be satisfied.
 
going threw my own problem with a person not doing what they said. i wont mention his name for now but i will monday if not a word back from him. i think we should take all these scammers and put them in a bag and beat the hell out of them with a willow stick
 
This is what happens when new members trade with other new members...this seems to always end up with a newcomer one way or another. I say that lolwaut should either send the game back, and receive a different copy of the game, or the cost of it via paypal and send it back.
 
[quote name='IXI Dragunz IXI']This is what happens when new members trade with other new members...this seems to always end up with a newcomer one way or another. I say that lolwaut should either send the game back, and receive a different copy of the game, or the cost of it via paypal and send it back.[/quote]

i dont really think that this situation boils down to anything besides impatience and an inaccurate description of the item on rigo's part. however, i am also at fault for not asking rigo for a picture of the game... i put too much trust in rigo's description. i will definitely require a picture for future trades, especially from people with little or no feedback. rigo told me prior to the trade that he never plays his psp so it is possible that he did not know that the game did not work. however, he definitely should have tested it and made an effort to accurately describe the item--hopefully he has learned his lesson from this trade, just as i have.

i will say this, i dont think rigo was intentionally trying to "scam" me. however, i am still pissed that he created this thread and left me neutral feedback after he received his game in a reasonable amount of time in the condition it was described to him. fortunately, shrike has taken care of that feedback rating.

i just received a PM from rigo saying that he picked me up a brand new copy of endwar for ps3 that he is going to send to me. again, rigo has been giving me the run-around for quite some time now; however, i am still giving him the benefit of the doubt that he will pull through (although it is taking much longer than it should). anyway, i have told rigo that i will gladly send him the broken psp game back as long as he covers the shipping costs. im hoping that this situation will finally get some closure before too long. i will update with more info as it is learned.
 
rigo just sent me a PM saying he shipped the game without D/C. as long as i get the game, i have no complaints; however, it does strike me as odd that he shipped without D/C after all of this trouble. i just hope he is not up to something. time will tell, i will update with any new developments.
 
i received the game rigo promised to send as a replacement today. this thread can be closed/unstickied.

thanks for coming through rigo.
 
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And I Said It Was Unfair Trade Because Xbox Live Vision Camera For Cod 4 And Gta4 What A Ripoff
 
[quote name='rigo707']This Thread Is Full Of Qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq

And I Said It Was Unfair Trade Because Xbox Live Vision Camera For Cod 4 And Gta4 What A Ripoff[/quote]

huh? xbox live vision camera? cod4? what are you talking about? neither of these items were EVER discussed between us. in fact, i dont even OWN a 360 which was established way earlier in this thread. more like tom clancy's endwar for gta 4, which is what i received. ill be happy to send all PMs to a mod if your are disputing something (which Im not sure that you are... your post makes ABSOLUTELY no sense to me.... NONE).
 
[quote name='rigo707']And i sent Him Tom Clancy's Endwar for Ps3 Brand new and sealed[/quote]

yes, that is what you agreed to send me rigo. the broken game you sent me (which you described as mint) was going $30-40 dollars at the time of our initial trade. i dont see how endwar for gta4 is a ripoff.... anyway, it doesnt matter because that is what YOU OFFERED ME AND WHAT WE BOTH AGREED TO. like i have told you in numerous PMs, i will gladly send your broken game back to you if you cover the $3 in shipping costs. of the numerous times i offered that to you, you never sent me the $3 for me to return your game, which only makes me wonder if you KNEW IT WAS BROKEN before you sent it to me... which is why you dont care about getting it back.
 
i figure i need to post this in the public domain, this is a PM between me and Rigo, the last message was just sent to me:

Originally Posted by lolwaut
Quote:
Originally Posted by rigo707
Well its a little late for that i already shipped without d/c don't complain why i didn't
rigo,

i received endwar today. thank you for rectifying this situation. i am still offering to send gripshift back if you cover the $3 for shipping. if you want it back, you can paypal me the $3. if you would like to do that and need my paypal info, let me know. thanks.


I might later on idk yet could i still send the money like next week and can you leave me some feedback?


and i will respond in the public domain:

after all of this BS, i am doing you a great service by not leaving you feedback. trust me.
 
No It Worked On My Psp Dammit And I Sent U The Replacement I Was Talking About Some Other Guy Who Wanted To Trade His Xbox Live Vision Camera For My Gta 4 And Cod 4
 
[quote name='lolwaut']huh? xbox live vision camera? cod4? what are you talking about? neither of these items were EVER discussed between us. in fact, i dont even OWN a 360 which was established way earlier in this thread. more like tom clancy's endwar for gta 4, which is what i received. ill be happy to send all PMs to a mod if your are disputing something (which Im not sure that you are... your post makes ABSOLUTELY no sense to me.... NONE).[/quote]
I think he was refering to the user who said that rigo was rude to him

It doesnt matter if it works, you described it as mint, cracks and breaks dont qualify as mint, i think he is trying to say rigo
 
[quote name='LilPaintballer']I think he was refering to the user who said that rigo was rude to him

It doesnt matter if it works, you described it as mint, cracks and breaks dont qualify as mint, i think he is trying to say rigo[/quote]

ahhh, i get it. would have been useful if he used the "quote" function.
 
[quote name='rigo707']No It Worked On My Psp Dammit And I Sent U The Replacement I Was Talking About Some Other Guy Who Wanted To Trade His Xbox Live Vision Camera For My Gta 4 And Cod 4[/quote]

rigo-

i misunderstood your first post, which is why i was so defensive. i thought you were saying that i somehow cheated you out of something (a XBOX cam and COD4) and that you were referring to this trade as a "rip off." since that is not what you were trying to say, i apologize for the hasty response.

im still a bit annoyed that you created this thread in the first place. im not denying that the time it took for GTA4 to get to you probably was a tad delayed due to the circumstances of my situation; however, a 7 day delivery time from florida to california isn't that unreasonable IMO. additionally, im annoyed that you left me neutral feedback after you received your game (fortunately, that has been taken care of). finally, im annoyed that you didnt update this thread after you received your game. instead my name was sticked on the trading forum for nearly a month before i even became aware of it and you did not even bother to update the thread saying that you had received the game... that isn't really fair to me.

HOWEVER, i do appreciate you coming through with a replacement game... that is not only worth something to me, it's worth a lot. although it took us quite awhile to reach an agreement on how this situation was to be resolved, we finally did and you followed through. that tells me that you did what you could and i believe that does warrant positive feedback. as far as i am concerned, this situation is over with.
 
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